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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: jima

What kasturi will do now? will she take revenge on raunak as she did to robbie?

Yes ab main loongi pratishodd 😎...ab main loongi pratishod😎 ..kyu ki meri apsi samaj ne ..mere dard ke rishte ne ..mere pyar ko barbaad kar diya 😭😭..ab main apko apne bhashan se barbaad kar doongi ...ab aap dekhna mere sanskaar aap par kis tarah bhari parte hai 😎

main chadi banungi ..main maa durga banungi ..par aap se badla loongi 😎

mujhe phir se mauka mila hai Maine jesse robbie ko coma meh pahuchaya ussi tarah aapka haal kar doongi 😈

Manpreet

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Posted: 17 years ago

@shwets this is why i luv you, you always come out with a bang... yes no matter what shwets you live in my heart as a girl that knows no bounds to luving a character/actor.. be him good, bad, sad, hell that is what fanship is all about stick with him through the thick and thin.. bravo and hats off to you for posting here huge πŸ‘ now you and i understand how one likes an actor that you just cant seem to hate them even at their worst... me and my fanship of devika/sheebha...you and JS...πŸ˜†

@pragalbha cant wait for your thrashing of JS today.. ohhh i died laughing at your comments...waqui main raabh bhi nahin bacha saktah ronauk koi aub..πŸ˜†

@jima great new twist in the story yaar, i can see kasturi now going after ronuak the way she did robbie fantastic...OMG that would be tooo much for all of us to handle but its pretty obvious thats the only way this show is going...

@janu and mazie5 welcome to the forum sorry must have missed when you joined..hope you have a blast here.. for the show has just blasted through all of our sanity and into the relm of chaos...

@sindhurd i agree KP doesnt need kasturi, he could act really well all on his own and do his role justice... i just hope he comes back to this show... i have a bad feeling about KP wanting to back out of this show. but according to my husband if that was true they would have kept him in his coma...lets see.. i'll keep my fingers crossed.

luv robzs

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Posted: 17 years ago
@robbzz.... nahi naa... KP yeh show chod kar nahi jaa saktaa... I like nauman bhai's version... 😳 ... ub dekhna yeh hay kay ro aur kastu kaisay miltay hay... yeh pura week to lugta hay raunak aur shivani ko hee jhelna paray gaa.... I think they could have summed up the disgusting plot in today's epy.. dont u think they r dragging it on and on...

@mannu aaj kaa epy dekh kar dil khush ho gaya.. jo sub may nay raunak kay baray may socha thaa woh khud us nay upnay moo say hee bol diya... dekha.. jub robbie un ki zindagi say duur jaa raha thaa... us waqt kaisay woh aa gaya tha divorce papers lay kar.... he could see his plan failing and thought oh God I will be stuck with this bhashan queen.. bhagggoooo... πŸ˜†

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Posted: 17 years ago

@ Fariii Very nice put πŸ‘πŸ‘ mere toh dimag se hi nikal gaya tha divorce wali baat πŸ˜†....ab koi bhi nahi keh sakta ki koi majboori thi πŸ˜†...cos kuch log keh rahe hai ki Raunak .ne kisi majboori ki wajah se kiya tha ...arre iss Ek expression ko kaun si majboori πŸ˜³πŸ˜†..ki yee singer nahi ban paya ...arre koi isse samjaye ...with one expression singer toh kya ...koi B***** bhi nahi ban pata πŸ€ͺ🀣

Meri jaan Raunak bas issi tarah action meh raho 😎

Manpreet

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Posted: 17 years ago
@mannu ... πŸ˜† .... loved ur post ...waisay aik baat bataa kiya raunak malaysia aa kar rockstar bun gaya hay??? if so I think us kay cncert may do log hi hotay hongay aik shivani aur doosra woh fishspector πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† ...

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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: storyteller

@mannu ... πŸ˜† .... loved ur post ...waisay aik baat bataa kiya raunak malaysia aa kar rockstar bun gaya hay??? if so I think us kay cncert may do log hi hotay hongay aik shivani aur doosra woh fishspector πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜† ...

FAri

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Arre meri jaan kya sawal kita tusi πŸ‘...haan concert meh yee teeno hi nachne wale aur teeno hi dekhne wale ...aur teeno hi ...Gaane wale hai 🀣

aur Dear tujhe meri har post se pata nahi chala ki Raunak star ban gaya hai πŸ˜† arre meri har post meh style marta hai like this 😎

And look what is this bata sakti hai ki main kya kehna chahti hoon ..beshak PM kar diyo πŸ˜‰

Manpreet

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Posted: 17 years ago
1 year mey hi raunak malaysia ka star ho gaya. sab log Raichand me marte hai. Its very funny. How can someone be so popular in just a year. It's only possible in BT serials.
Kavitha
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Posted: 17 years ago
What if in the end, Devika turns out to be a positive character😳 😲 . I mean, her life mission:seperating the Sabrawals and Singhanias, was that because she knew or had a faint idea about what Raunak was like? πŸ˜• or was she just being her 'more money, more concerts, MORE MONEY, πŸ€ͺ ' self and helping without knowing it? πŸ€” πŸ˜†

And when Kasturi wanted revenge from Robbie, did Devika sense it had something to do with Raunak? or was she, again, just being herself and helping without knowing it? πŸ˜•
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Posted: 17 years ago

Episode : Feb 19th

You know, I really did not start hating Raunak's character till much later! So many of you had suspected his motives from Day One. But I did not. I was always thinking of him as a good man, a man who is trying to help Kasturi out!
I only started to hate that character the moment I saw him enjoying his wedding and married life to Kasturi. 😑 Now it makes sense, why he was looking so happy during the wedding!!! Why he could enjoy his wedding when both his friend and his bride were crying their hearts out!!!! God, I HATE him more today than I ever did!!! 😑

And Shweta, you say they butchered Raunak's character for RoKa. That is the same thing they did to Robbie. They butchered Robbie's hopes, aspirations and love to accomodate the Raunak-Kasturi jodi. Same thing, different side of the coin.

Many of the current RaKa fans were die-hard RoKa fans initially who switched sides because they could not accept ONE flaw in Robbie!!! They could not accept the arrogance in Robbie's character!!!! They could not accept him insulting Kasturi and her family! What I want to see now is....how they will continue to support Raunak now??? How they will support the personification of such evil 😈 , who will do anything and go to any extent to get his money and the love of his life!!!! 😲😲😲
All the people who were upset with Robbie because he was pursuing the love of his life and not letting her go even after she was married to a different man, how can we now forgive somebody who pursued the love of his life by destroying her brother and marrying his girlfriend!!!!! Boy, this is something, I would love to see.
I cannot tell you all how happy I am that finally Robbie has been vindicated!!!! πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ And FINALLY Kasturi will suffer SOOOOOOO much from her guilt!!! I want to see her choking on her guilt! 😑

And YES, the reasons are very flimsy, the track has some holes in it, BUT.. BUT..when people are ready to accept dead characters coming back to life and rejoice and feel happy that a person whose dead body was shown incarcerated, shows up hale and hearty in Malaysia....when such ridiculous tracks and theories can be accepted without a complaint, then why complain now?????? Why can't this theory be accepted??? It SHOULD be accepted!
Even otherwise, strength in direction was something that the Kasturi team NEVER possessed. We have been subjected to bloopers upon bloopers and some major directorial screw ups from day one. 😑 😑
One of the most recent examples is Kasturi's remembering Robbie throughout, in Benaras and then her sudden flight to Malyasia (so nonsensical) and then in Malaysia crying and remembering Raunak, all of a sudden, just like that!!!!!! 🀒 They have been subjecting us to such nonsensical scenes from day one, so this theory is also one of the same!

Some of the best RoKa flashbacks were shown today. I enjoyed them immensely!!! 😳
In fact today one more thing that was solidly projected was the strength of character that Robbie had when compared to Raunak and Shivani!!!!! I will give you all an example:-
Shivani called him self-obsessed pig 😑...who was actually self-obsessed?? It was her and Raunak!!!! In her obsession for him, she even forgot that she was destroying her own brother!!!! 🀒 But of all the Sabharwal kids, Robbie was the only one who could feel and see the pain his mother was feeling in her marriage! How can he be then called self-obsessed??? Robbie might have been arrogant, he might have been a casanova, but he still NEVER caused any trouble to her!!!!
And even if we go with her theory that Robbie was self-obsessed, then look at the transformation that Kasturi's love brought in him!!! Kasturi meant to him so much that he changed himself completely for her!!! He went out of his way everytime to help her and her GFN family 😑 , saved their lives and financially helped them!!!! It goes to show what Kasturi meant for him!

And Raunak himself in today's eppy says..."Kasturi, tum jis seh sabse zyaada pyaar karti ho....." Even Raunak acknowledges that Kasturi loved Robbie the most.

And for all who are expecting or fearing that this all might be a drama and that Raunak is doing to bring Robbie and Kasturi together, it does not matter, both ways Robbie is the winner!!! πŸ˜ƒ
Even if Raunak is not genuinely negative, it goes to prove that he has realized that the love that RK share is the ultimate love! It proves that their love is so true that he will go to any extend to bring them together!!!
So, I really am very happy today! πŸ˜ƒ

As a Robbie fan, I am absolutely delighted!!! But as a rational person, denoucing the creative team....this is what I have to say!

What in the name of God is this stuff that the BT people are showing us??? I am irritated to the core at the way this has been handled.
How can we viewers be taken soooooo much for granted?? How can they twist us around like this as and how they want!!!!!

I am just expressing my angst as a viewer of this shoddy direction of what could have been a fantastic serial! And I want to dedicate this to all those people who want to remain sane even after watching this show....they can be a Robbie fan, Raunak fan, Kasturi fan, Devika fan, KP fan, JS fan, SA fan, Sheeba fan, 'Mitwa' fan, 'Yeh Housla' fan, RK fan, Rak fan, RS fan or anything else!!!!

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If I was granted an interivew with the BT television's Kasturi decreative, uncreative, destroyer team, 😑 then this is how I visualize it will go πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜† .....

Kasturi's director and 2 creative team members on the dias and me in a chair in front of them.

Team member 1 = TM1
Team member 2 = TM2

Me : Yeh kya nayaa naatak dikha rahe hai aaj kal hame? 😑
TM1 : Kyun, aapko accha nahi lagaa? 😳 Actually na, we were planning on this twist for a while now.....ab jaake isko serial mei fit karne ka mauka mila!
Me : Kya matlab? 😑
TM2 : Actually Raunak ke marne se pehle hi hum uske negative hone kaa track shook kar chuke the.
Me (shocked) : WHAT!!!!!! 😲😲😲
TM2 (giggling) : Dekha dekha!!! Aap kitni surprised ho gayi!! Yahi shock value ka hum istemaal karna chah rahe the.
Me (angrily) : Yeh kya bakwass hai! 😑 Kyun karna chahenge aap aise? πŸ˜•
TM1 : Actually humne ek survey kiya tha. Ussmei pataa chala ke Raunak-Shivani jodi, Raunak-Kasturi jodi se zyaada chalegi! Lekin afsos , tab tak humne already Kasturi ki shaadi Raunak se karvaa dee thi!
TM2 : Phir humne socha Kasturi-Raunak ke jodi break kar denge aur isliye Shivani ko serial mei enter karaaya.
Me (looking irritated): Ek skeleton ke roop mei? 🀒
TM1 (squeals) : Aapko woh skeleton waala idea accha lagaa???? πŸ˜› Pataa hai, woh idea meraa hi tha.
I give him a withering look and say
Me : Woh idea ekdum CRAP tha!!! 😑
He looks at me hurt and I turn my attention to TM2 who is saying
TM2 : Shivani ke enter hone ke baad, humne socha ab kisi tarah Raunak-Kasturi ki shaadi tudvaa denge and we will hook up RS and RK.
I look at the Director. He is just sitting there like a statue listening to us talk.
Me (looking at them miffed) : 'Kisi bhi tarah" shaadi tudvaa denge??? Without any strong reason, ek mahine mei shaadi kaise todh sakte hai?
TM2 : Arre bilkul todh sakte hai! Un donon ki iss serial mei pehli shaadi thi. Hamaara research bataata hai ke, usually viewers kaa interest, chauthi shaadi tak banaa rehta hai. Toh chauthi shaadi tak, hum manmaani kar sakte hai. Lekin jab character ki paanchvi shaadi ho toh, viewers thoda irritate ho jaate hai! Toh humlog jab paanchvi shaadi dikhate hai na, tab extra careful rehte hai, ke kahin chati shaadi tak jaane ki naubat na aa jaaye!
TM1 interjects : Aur haan, iss mei engagements count nahi hoti, samjhi aap? Mangniyaan kitni bhi ho sakti hai aur toot sakti hai, viewers ko koi farak nahi padhta!
The nerves in my brain are bursting.
TM2 : Haan, toh hum kahaan the?
Me (whispering dangerously) : Raunak aur Kasturi ki shaadi todhne mei.
TM2 : Haan, haan. Lekin itne mei, Sheeba ji ne Ekta maam ko dhamki di, ki agar unkaa role expand nahi hua, toh woh serial chod ke jaayengi!
TM1 : Toh Ekta maam ne hamaare creative team se kahaa
Ekta : Creative team, jaake apni puraani serials mei dekho ke usually aise ek naumeed waali shadi ke baad, hum kya track dikhate hai, wahi track yahaan pe bhi add kardo aur haan, make sure ki ussme Sheeba ji ka central role ho!
TM2 : Phir humne BT Library kaa help liyaa aur apni puraani serials ka research kiyaa, toh dekha ke revenge track is the best option.
Me (puzzled) : BT Library???
TM2 : Haan! Pataa hai aapko, hamaare paas ek state of the art library hai, jismei sabhi desi cinema aur serials ki DVD/VCD ki archives hai! Hum jahaan se chahe, wahaan se scenes copy kar sakte hai, same to same dialogs ke saath!! Aur hamaari company, Hollywood se ek deal bhi workout kar rahi hai, jisse, hum Hollywood movies ke scene bhi copy kar sakte hai!
He is looking at me with pride while I am looking at him disgusted!
TM1 : Phir humne socha, agar Sheeba ji ka role -Devika ko importance denaa hai, toh zaroori hai ke unke bete Robbie kaa track hona hai, aur agar Robbie ko track mei hona hai, toh uski dukhti rag, yaane ke Kasturi ko dabaana padega! Issliye yeh decide hua ke Kasturi kaa buraa haal karnaa hogaa.
TM2 : Tab humne socha ke, Raunak ko negative banaa dete hai. Aur yeh track humne thoda shoot bhi kar diyaa. Wahi track hum aajkal tumko dikha rahe hai! πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜† Lekin tab Jatin Shah ka KGGK mei track important ho gayaa aur unhone kahaa ke ve bahut busy ho gaye hai. Then we decided, we will bump Raunak off. Baad mei ka baad mei dekhenge! Waise bhi mareh hue characters ko waapas laana koi badi mushkil ka kaam thode hi hai! So we decide to end Raunak's character and put the blame on Robbie so that it will hurt Kasturi jo ek middle class sanskari ladhki hai.
On hearing the words 'middle-class sanskaari', my BP shoots up and I close my eyes to calm myself down!!! (🀣)
TM2 : So humne revenge track start kiya aur hame thode hafton ke liye aaraam mil gaayaa!!
I am grinding my teeth 😑 and then I ask 😑
Me : Phir?
TM1 : Phir kya? Ek din achaanak, Ekta maam ka call aaya. Woh badi ghusse mei thi! Unhone bahut chillaya aur daanta!!
Ekta : Yeh Kasturi ke TRPs itne gir kyun rahe hai? Aap logon seh ek serial sambhaala nahi jaata??? Jab ke mei tees-tees serials aur cinema ek hi samay mei sambhaal rahi hun????? Aur yeh sab karne meh, mei itni busy ho gayi hun, ke mujhe shaadi karne tak ki fursat nahi hai! ( πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜† )
TM1 : Phir meine jawaab diyaa "Maam, actually viwers tang aa gaye hai yeh track seh. Woh log Robbie-Kasturi mei pyaar dekhna chahte hai, pratishod nahi. Actually hume kaafi phone calls bhi aa chuke hai maam, ke thode Kasturi viewers, yeh "pratishodh" word ko sunte hi, hyper reaction ke shikaar hokar todh-phod kar rahe hai!! Aur phir humne Raunak jaise hot looking character ko bhi maar diyaa. Toh isiliye TRPs gir rahe hai.
Ekta : Theek hai toh ab yeh pratishod ka track rok doh, aur Robbie-Kasturi ko milaane ki track shuru karo.
TM2 : Phir humne dekha, ke story itni senseless ho gayi hai toh hum logo ne decide kiyaa, ke ek saal ka leap lete hai. Iss ek saal mei viewers sab bhool jaayenge.
And he winks at me in jest and I give him a cold stare.
TM1 : Yeh naye track mei humne yeh dikhana shuru kiyaa ke Kasturi, Raunak ko bhool gayi hai aur Robbie ko yaad kar rahi hai. Aur phir humne Inspector Gaurav ke saath scenes bhi shoot kiye ke Kasturi ko asliyat pataa chalti hai ke Robbie ne Raunak ko nahi maara. Aur hum yeh scenes dikhaane hi waale the, ke itne mei Ekta maam ka phir call aaya!!! Unhone kahaa..
Ekta : Serial mei bhool-bhulaiyaa track add kar do.
Me (scratching my head) : Lekin KYUN??????? 😑
TM2 : Pssssst....andar ki baat yeh sunne mei aayaa hai ke, T-Series ke Kumar saab, arre wahi jinhone Bhool-Bhulaiyya produce ki thi, unhone Ekta maam ko call karke, unse request kee ki woh Bhool-Bhulaiya ke track ko apne kisi serial mei include karde. It seems unhone yeh sunaa hai ke, jo film flop hoti hai usske gaane ya scenes TV pe dikhaane se woh film dobaara popular ho jaati hai! Jaise ke apna RK peh picturize kiyaa hua "Mitwa" song aur uski film KANK.
Aur kyunki hamaare serial ka nayaa track Benaras/Varanasi mei tha, toh Maam ne woh bhool-bhulaiyaa track ko Kasturi mei include karne keliye decide kar diyaa!!

TM1 : Phir humne socha, theek hai thode dinon tak Bhool-bhulaiyaa track dikhate hai aur phir woh track jismei Kasturi, Robbie se maafi maangti hai, usse ek-do hafte ke baad dikha denge.
TM2 : Itne mei phir Ekta maam ka phone aaya. Unhone kahaa...
Ekta : Jatin Shah aur Mouni Roy, jo Raunak aur Shivani ke characters play karte hai, woh aajkal free hai. Baaki serials mei unka koi track nahi chal rahaa hai. Unko Kasturi mei waapas laao. Yun hi muft ke salary de rahi hun, unhe!
TM2 : Lekin maam, humne Raunak ko maar diya tha na, phir kaise.....
Ekta : Arre, usse phir zinda karo, woh kaun si badi baat hai? Aur usse negative kardo taaki Shivani kaa character bhi kuch kaam aaye.
TM1 : Toh humne do naye episodes phataaphat shoot kiye! Episodes, to catch up with this new track, jismei gareeb Kasturi, Malyasia jaati hai aur flight mei usse short term amnesia aata hai, aur woh pichle ek mahine ka "Robbie yaad karo" track bhool jaati hai aur phir Raunak ko yaad karne lagti hai!!
By this time I am all worked up and I am screaming at them 😑 😑 😑
Me : Lekin Story ka kya?? Uski koi ehmiyat hai ke nahi?????? 😑 😑
TM2 : Arre, calm down madam! Aap kyun itna chilla rahi hai? Aur kyun mazaak kar rahi hai? Hum bhi jaante hai ke aap log serials, story ke liye nahi, favourite characters aur actors ke liye dekhti hai!
And turning to TM1 he says...
TM2 : Meine kahaa tha tujhse ke 'Pratishodh' word ka istemaal mat karo. Lekin tune meri ek nahi suni. Ab dekho yeh madam kaise paglaa gayi hai!
I am staring at the director who is sitting in the middle doing nothing and I scream
Me : Arre ye Director muh kholegaa bhi ya nahi??? Yeh kuch kehta kyun nahi?
TM1 : Arre, yeh set peh kuch karte aur kehte nahi, toh yahaan kya karenge aur kahenge??
I start yelling again when TM2 says 😑
TM2 : Arre chillana band kee jiye madam!! Yeh kya problem hai? Aapko serial pasand nahi aata toh mat dekhiye na! Aapne sunaa nahi Ekta madam ne kya kahaa tha?
TM1 : Aur unhone jo kahaa tha, woh aaj hamaare company ka motto, hamaara mission statement ban gayaa hai! Aapne andar aate, recpetion area mei padha nahi hamaara mission statement??
And they both say together
"DON'T WATCH IT IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT"


And they leave me pulling my hair out in frustration!!! 😑 😑 😑 ( 🀣 )


Just a small attempt from my side to cheer up everyone....(hope it works)!!! πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

Edited by pragalbha - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
@Pragalba: 🀣 Trust u to put things in perspective. That was damn good, and it cheered me like hell.πŸ‘

Look i have not watched this from the beginning and started watching when JS came and properly around the time raka got married. Having said that u know i like robbie, so accepting him for his faults or whatever is the right word was not a problem for me. Similarly Raunak has his which i havent hesitated in pointing out. Sure there may be different opinions on how they handled stuff, but that is okay happens.

I laughed out loud when u said u wanted to kiss raunak on monday, i was like what i soooooooooooo wanted to hit him that day. Just resigned to the fact that when it comes to raunak we might never agree on the same thingπŸ˜† (Thank god, for RKAB, rightπŸ˜ƒ).

Ofcourse things have changed a bit and like i told mannu a part of me wants to believe that he is faking it, but if it is for real (still dunno how many u turns this is going to take, yeah right) i am soooooooooooo gonna bash him up.😑

When JS came back, i promised myself i will not get into the defending character stuff for exactly the same reason cos on wed epi 1st part she was crying for robbie, last part rauank (i was like what the hell, i wouldnt have minded if she had continued caring for robbie, thoda to consistency hota. Sure i was mad that she had forgotten raunak, but theek hai yaar she has moved on no problem, but this was way too much to handle).

Raunak as of now seems to be 🀬. Fine, i am gonna enjoy JS who i thought did a great job and bash raunak when he has finished all his recounting history bakwas😑. Cos i am still hoping that atleast he cared for kasturi at some point of time. Ofcourse that would no way justify what he has done, put it down to small consolationπŸ˜†.

Now i am looking forward to KP/JS scenes - that should be funπŸ˜ƒ Thanx for reading pragalba and once again it helped a lot.😳

shwetha

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