Is Bajaj fit to be a father? - Page 4

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

i agree to what you are saying.....but bache toh unke bhi hote hain na. Aisa bahut cases mein nahi hota ki option hi nahi hota.....jobs hote hain aise bhi jinmein jaan ka risk na ho. Par ismein paisa jyaada milta hain. Kuch logo ko industry pasand bhi hoti hain, hero banne aaye hote and stuntmen tak reh jaata hain. Its not about poverty even.....not all stuntment are from poverty stricken families.....and chalo leave stuntmen.....an army man also is ready to risk his life. This whole logic of putting their child through trauma of seeing them hurt apply there as well. In both stuntmen and army....children do see their parents dying. So stuntmens and army men arent fit to be a father ???......What i have said is that a person doesnt become unfit to be a father because his child has to go through trauma of seeing them hurt, especially when they are trying to do something which according to them benifits their child as well. I dont support bajaj idea, i hate it ... but i dont feel it makes him unfit as a father for his daughter. The whole idea that a father who somehow puts his child through trauma of watching him hurt is not fit to be a father is wrong according to my understanding of things.

You really have to understand what FleetingWishes is intending to say and let me tell you, you should not even think of comparing who you are comparing. Let me quickly try and let you know why. I hope you would understand because these are the important aspects and categories that you are comparing.

Majority of stunt performers choose the job to feed their families twice a day and the number of people who join the same out of thrill and passion is quite less as compared to those who do it because of the poverty issue.

Not all stuntsmen are from poverty stricken family, you are right but majority of them are. Stunt performers is also a different thing but army people? This is just not right. How can they even be compared with Bajaj? Army men risk and lose their lives for their Nation. Bajaj has risked his life for a woman he thinks he loves and that too, as a manipulative plan into getting her into him by falsifying the situation against Anurag. This is a selfish desire. Army men sacrifice their lives selflessly to protect the people in their country.

It is a very unfortunate thing for the kids of stuntmen and army men to see their parents die but the death isn't invited by Stuntmen and Army men. Here, Bajaj has invited it for himself.

You can write all that you want to say why B is fit despite it all, I don't have any issues with the same but be thoughtful about the analogies you are using for the same.

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

You really have to understand what FleetingWishes is intending to say and let me tell you, you should not even think of comparing who you are comparing. Let me quickly try and let you know why. I hope you would understand because these are the important aspects and categories that you are comparing.

Majority of stunt performers choose the job to feed their families twice a day and the number of people who join the same out of thrill and passion is quite less as compared to those who do it because of the poverty issue.

Not all stuntsmen are from poverty stricken family, you are right but majority of them are. Stunt performers is also a different thing but army people? This is just not right. How can they even be compared with Bajaj? Army men risk and lose their lives for their Nation. Bajaj has risked his life for a woman he thinks he loves and that too, as a manipulative plan into getting her into him by falsifying the situation against Anurag. This is a selfish desire. Army men sacrifice their lives selflessly to protect the people in their country.

It is a very unfortunate thing for the kids of stuntmen and army men to see their parents die but the death isn't invited by Stuntmen and Army men. Here, Bajaj has invited it for himself.

You can write all that you want to say why But is fit despite it all, I don't have any issues with the same but be thoughtful about the analogies you are using for the same.

Majority of stunt men are from poverty stricken famillies and they have no option than doing that job isnt something i believe.....there are specially trained stuntsmen ...that training even require good amount of money.....actors like rohit purohit have played stuntsmen to hrithik roshan as well. It is risky ....but many like taking such risks....for making their careers and not for feeding their family.

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

I do not disagree. I was just stating what I feel could be in his mind that had him going with a plan as lame but could turn into something disastrous in a blink of an eye as this. He is player, that's for sure. How appreciable, I am not sure. The recent revelations that he made in front of Anurag proved it about how good he is, at hiding, pretending, making up plans and executing them as per his convenience and in his benefits. I haven't even watched the show since a couple of episodes and writing only on the basis of whatever the little updates that I have read. Everything about this show is super lame. Characters have no consistency and literally everything is mocked. Relationships, the most.

@bold - was she at the Pandal? Pata chala iske bare me sochke wo pehle hi Cookie ko ghar rakhke aaya tha. 😆

Oh goodness. I only saw a small bit where he said, mai Prerna ko chahne laga hu aur mai unhe haasil karke hi rahunga something of that sort and I was like - kab, bhai, kab? 😆  And what's this haasil karlunga bullshit? Was Anurag any less that Bajaj is also being fed the same sick dialogues? I am not exaggerating a bit - this show has nothing good to offer. Not even entertainment.  Sigh.

Here's what I don't like. Him trying to justify the shit he does. Also unpopular opinion, but the constant *Bad Basu* makes me cringe. RB needs to be unabashed in who he is. He doesn't give a f. and that is it. He doesn't. He shouldn't go on explaining why *HE HAD TO DO IT* because what's happening is wrong or this and that. His whole *I try to be so good* is delusional af. And just hits his credibility. If his philosophy is I'll get what I want. It doesn't matter what I have to do to get it, I understand! But him literally justifying himself and internalizing everything he does as the rite of passage is what makes him sound so unsure and hypocritical. The original RB was bad. And that is it. He enjoyed it. He didn't care as long as he got what he wanted. He, too, had a very strict and twisted code he followed but he'd never spill his whole strategy, way of thinking, or plan. Until his death, Anurag never found out what role Bajaj had played in his and Prerna's separation. 😆 So yeah, if the gloating was just that...gloating. Not my cup of tea.

I agree. Consistency isn't there. This show isn't even entertaining.

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

Why they cant be equated ???......if this current situation can be equated to bajaj not fit to be a father because he lets his child bear the trauma of seeing him injured to stop prerna in the family which his child needs. Pyar toh usse ab hua hain....and he said cookie ke saath saath apne liye bhi chahiye. Family nahi tootne doonga if you noticed. The same way a stuntmen is okay with his child dealing with the trauma of seeing his parents in bad conditions so that he can bring food which child needs. A mother is very important for a child too....prerna in cookie case is even more imp. And need to hain hi.....need is that he doesnt wants to let prerna go....neither as cookie mother nor his wife.

And why should bajaj not stop prerna.....he had fulfilled what prerna has demanded and now she should fulfil what she is required to. Deal nahu karti toh rehti apne anurag ke saath but deal karne ke baad anurag ke face ko cup karna ya uske saath chunri mein khade rehna is not done. Himmat hain toh return all the shares which bajaj had brought of basus....and tell him, she is breaking the deal.....though tab bhi sahi nahi hoga....kyonki bajaj saved anurag from jail which now cant be reversed. But stilll itna karne ki toh himmat toh dikhao....but nahi....yaha its like.......sacrifice sacrifice bol kar apne bf ko jail se chudwao....uski company ke shares chudwa do. Phir apne bf ko kuch mat batao.....woh aayega aur tumhare current pati se uska ghar cheen lega. And then jab tumhara pati tumhare bf ka khar khareed le, toh yeh mansha rakho ki woh basus ko waha rehne de. And tumhara pati woh bhi maan jaaye tumhara chehra dekhkar.....na nikale basus ko waha se tumhara soachkar......aur tum anurag basu ke saath zindagi ke sapne sajao. What kind of logic is that ????.....i cant believe she keeps standing in front of anurag with those teary eyes......and keeps listening to all his bakwas.....she saw that he deliberately made her fall on himself.....usne tab bhi react nahi kiya. Aaj bhi she stood there in the chunri for so much time till bajaj words dint cross her memory. She really needs upto what she has promised......she can love anurag all her life but she shouldnt be with him till the time she is married to bajaj. Deal todni hain toh dhang se todo.....bajaj is not wrong in letting her go till he falls madly for her.......woh kyun jaane de....prerna ne itna fayda uthaya hain uska....made him do so many things according to her interest.

I don't think the situation is same. Mr Bajaj is no more doing this for his daughter . People risk their life for a honest living , for food ,for a roof . It's so much different than risking one's life in front of your child just to keep someone trapped. Anyways I won't argue on this anymore since you think its ok you equate the two things and I don't.

When you speak so much about a deal......how do you expect any love to ever b der ??? Prerna according to your description looks like a bought slave to serve Bajaj and his daughter. Yes a mother is important but there are many people who are single parents and hv special needs kids ( much more than Kuki is) and hv much less luxury than Mr Bajaj has .......and yet they are doing perfectly ok wid der kids. Kids need your tym and patience and attention.

As for Prerna she took a decision out of circumstances . And she is keeping her part of the deal......or is trying very hard to. You can't control who your heart beats for. She is a human.....not some robot . She hasn't yet done anything so unacceptable in regards to her marriage m and to see it like dt......Anurag is her unborn child's father. How can she not be conflicted ???? Kuki is not the only child in the picture. ......there's one in Prerna's womb too.

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

You really have to understand what FleetingWishes is intending to say and let me tell you, you should not even think of comparing who you are comparing. Let me quickly try and let you know why. I hope you would understand because these are the important aspects and categories that you are comparing.

Majority of stunt performers choose the job to feed their families twice a day and the number of people who join the same out of thrill and passion is quite less as compared to those who do it because of the poverty issue.

Not all stuntsmen are from poverty stricken family, you are right but majority of them are. Stunt performers is also a different thing but army people? This is just not right. How can they even be compared with Bajaj? Army men risk and lose their lives for their Nation. Bajaj has risked his life for a woman he thinks he loves and that too, as a manipulative plan into getting her into him by falsifying the situation against Anurag. This is a selfish desire. Army men sacrifice their lives selflessly to protect the people in their country.

It is a very unfortunate thing for the kids of stuntmen and army men to see their parents die but the death isn't invited by Stuntmen and Army men. Here, Bajaj has invited it for himself.

You can write all that you want to say why B is fit despite it all, I don't have any issues with the same but be thoughtful about the analogies you are using for the same.

You spoke my mind. I couldn't hv explained it like you did.....so thank you.

yes. he's doing it for the sake of his daughter. he wanted to test Prerna finally whether he can really rely on her for Kuki's betterment. kyunki he cant bet his daughter's health and happiness for this 'chit bhi meri pat bhi meri' wali not so loyal wife.

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

I don't think the situation is same. Mr Bajaj is no more doing this for his daughter . People risk their life for a honest living , for food ,for a roof . It's so much different than risking one's life in front of your child just to keep someone trapped. Anyways I won't argue on this anymore since you think its ok you equate the two things and I don't.

When you speak so much about a deal......how do you expect any love to ever b der ??? Prerna according to your description looks like a bought slave to serve Bajaj and his daughter. Yes a mother is important but there are many people who are single parents and hv special needs kids ( much more than Kuki is) and hv much less luxury than Mr Bajaj has .......and yet they are doing perfectly ok wid der kids. Kids need your tym and patience and attention.

As for Prerna she took a decision out of circumstances . And she is keeping her part of the deal......or is trying very hard to. You can't control who your heart beats for. She is a human.....not some robot . She hasn't yet done anything so unacceptable in regards to her marriage m and to see it like dt......Anurag is her unborn child's father. How can she not be conflicted ???? Kuki is not the only child in the picture. ......there's one in Prerna's womb too.

I dont personally expect any love from prerna for bajaj......she was never suppose to love him. See i personally dont support bajaj for making the deal but now when she has accepted the deal....she needs to be with in limits. May be for you cupping your ex face.....seeing him deliberately make you fall on him and not saying anything.....showing that oh how much you are suffering to him through emotional eyes.....standing and listening to everything he is saying is acceptable but for me its encouraging anurag and she has crossed the limit for me now. Aise deal karni hi nahi chahiye ....jise aap nibha na sako.....yaha toh nibhane ka irada bhi nahi dikh raha hain ab...she is giving in....and she is not trying. Its not difficult to keep a person away when you actually decide to do it. If she wants to move with anurag.....break you relation with bajaj first.

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

okay now when i read my comments again....i agree that i did kind of compared......so okay....i agree bajaj is wrong here and take back my words on that. Take back the whole comparision thing....accept my mistake. The thing these kind of statements are really questionable in real life. In general.....no father is unfit for a child if he knows there is life risk in what he is doing and its not necessary that a person had to do it to earn a living only. If a person feels risking his life can take him ahead in something and make his family have a better life.....he is very much fit as a father.

I dont personally expect any love from prerna for bajaj......she was never suppose to love him. See i personally dont support bajaj for making the deal but now when she has accepted the deal....she needs to be with in limits. May be for you cupping your ex face.....seeing him deliberately make you fall on him and not saying anything.....showing that oh how much you are suffering to him through emotional eyes.....standing and listening to everything he is saying is acceptable but for me its encouraging anurag and she has crossed the limit for me now. Aise deal karni hi nahi chahiye ....jise aap nibha na sako.....yaha toh nibhane ka irada bhi nahi dikh raha hain ab...she is giving in....and she is not trying. Its not difficult to keep a person away when you actually decide to do it. If she wants to move with anurag.....break you relation with bajaj first.

Ok dt I don't disagree with. But I didn't say that Bajaj is a unfit parent anywhere , did I ?? I just said being a parent it's actually very irresponsible of him to stoop down to such childish acts which may be harmful or life threatening. Yes he took precautions but wid fire things do get unpredictable.

Ok I get that you think Prerna is crossing her limits and since people hv different definitions of boundaries so maybe what I find ok is not ok for you. See I'm not saying everything is ok but seeing the situation Prerna is in.....it's not same as a normal person marrying as part of a deal. She is carrying Anurag's child but the boundaries do get blurred .

Aur agar Prerna yeh deal apni khusi se karti toh baat alag hoti. Jab usne deal Kiya she didn't think ki would usse kid hadd tak nibha paegi ......she just thought what she could do to save Anurag. She agreed to all the conditions cause she was desperate to save Anurag. Deal karte waqt itna socha hi nai hoga usne.

Bajaj is growing obsessive for Prerna. This is no longer about his daughter only. From a shrewd businessman, he has been reduced to stupid man in his own madness.

Prerna made it explicitly clear that her heart would be all about Anurag. The fact he doesn't trust her the way he used to earlier speaks a lot about his position as well of how he undermines Prerna as an individual. When Anurag says he would take her away from Bajaj, he should be upfront with Prerna about it. He can do that instead of resorting to such juvenile behavior since loyalty was one of his demand. He should make Prerna think that he trusts her despite all this to create a dilemma for her which would actually make Prerna see things for herself. He should actually tell Prerna that he could set her free if she wants without any further condition, that will make Prerna think & take some decisions instead of being a ping-pong. Prerna would choose to mother Kuki instead of Anurag & that's where Bajaj wins, all with the mind games. Infact, this will make Prerna see Bajaj in a good light, something he desperately wants.

Bajaj can play complex mind games with everyone instead of doing this shit. That's what his character should be about- smartness, shrewdness, mind games without such stupidity. Darkness in Bajaj comes from his capability to play sinister mind games just with words & then wait for domino effect to occur on its own without actually harming anyone including himself.

To say I am grossly disappointed with how his character has come out to be would be an understatement. Such rash, self-harming behavior is not expected of Bajaj owing to his daughter in picture. This is irresonsible & makes him no different than Anurag at this point. Anu was stupid for jeopardizing his life for his madness & making his family suffer. Bajaj doing it is even more disappointing since he was supposed to be smart, sensible man who wouldn't resort to such juvenile behavior at his age in the show.

Right now he is all about having Prerna for himself. Even his daughter has taken a back seat for him.

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

Ok dt I don't disagree with. But I didn't say that Bajaj is a unfit parent anywhere , did I ?? I just said being a parent it's actually very irresponsible of him to stoop down to such childish acts which may be harmful or life threatening. Yes he took precautions but wid fire things do get unpredictable.

Ok I get that you think Prerna is crossing her limits and since people hv different definitions of boundaries so maybe what I find ok is not ok for you. See I'm not saying everything is ok but seeing the situation Prerna is in.....it's not same as a normal person marrying as part of a deal. She is carrying Anurag's child but the boundaries do get blurred .

Aur agar Prerna yeh deal apni khusi se karti toh baat alag hoti. Jab usne deal Kiya she didn't think ki would usse kid hadd tak nibha paegi ......she just thought what she could do to save Anurag. She agreed to all the conditions cause she was desperate to save Anurag. Deal karte waqt itna socha hi nai hoga usne.