Bajaj & Prerna's respect [DT Note page 16] - Page 10

Originally posted by: awesome

Bold: Well said 👏

If it would be a Her soulmate in bajaj’s place, this forum would be filled with his praising post😆

Hypocrisy at peak😆

I can understand people critiquing his wrong actions, but standing up for prerna is one of the times he is in the right and people actually have a problem with that. Its cukooo. And it has nothing do with falling in love. It is basic human decency, expected of 'good' normal people and bajaj tho here is grey.

I think people are so used to itv caricaturish villains like komo, who is so one note and has no depth, just their to do evil stuff, that they feel dissapointed with a chara like bajaj, neither a full blown villain nor a hero. Yes he is selfish looking out only for his gains, but also yes, he respects prerna. Mayb coz shes accepted his daughter maybe for some other selfish reason, but the point is he doesnt like her being disrespected and thinks highly of her. Is this rocket science? Is this some insecurity about anurag? Coz i dont get it.

And he has no right to defend her from mohini. Like really? If that guy anupam had some backbone even he would have stepped up to defend prerna. A hundred times before also whenever mohini tore into her with her classist and disgusting attitude.

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

Now, this is going in a different direction. Either you did not get what I really meant or you are looking at the scene on a personal level. LAMA/DAMA is quite a different thing in the context I was talking. I had said something very simple - the doctor loved his job more than his patient's life. That's about it. You're unnecessarily complicating something as simple as this.

PS: I hope you do not mean that Doctors do not mind allowing LAMA/DAMA to critical patients because they have an attitude or whatsoever. Patient's life is above everything for doctors, isn't it? Again clarifying - talking about allowing a discharge easily because patient has an attitude like you put it and not in general.

I don't think we should talk more regarding this. I think we are failing to connect on a middle level. We are on ends I believe. Good night.

Sorry to intervene but this is exactly what LAMA is..Doctors legally have no right to keep the patient admitted again his or their attendant wishes..If they want to leave,we can only counsel them..yet again it's their own choice regardless of how critical their condition is..Once they sign LAMA it means they themselves are now responsible for patients conditions

This kind of attitude from patients attendants is very common in Private hospitals especially those who are admitted in ICU or Intensive care..and no hospital management or doctor hold any rights to make them stay against their own wishes..

Originally posted by: FaizaK

Sorry to intervene but this is exactly what LAMA is..Doctors legally have no right to keep the patient admitted again his or their attendant wishes..If they want to leave,we can only counsel them..yet again it's their own choice regardless of how critical their condition is..Once they sign LAMA it means they themselves are now responsible for patients conditions

This kind of attitude from patients attendants is very common in Private hospitals especially those who are admitted in ICU or Intensive care..and no hospital management or doctor hold any rights to make them stay against their own wishes..

I always hated how ITV portrayed doctors because the characters would always insult them as if doctors are at fault if someone is dying and not waking up. They would treat doctors as if they are gods. But I didn’t know this was common in India and doctors are treated this way sometimes by rich? That’s horrible. LAMA kind of thing exists in USA too. Medical staff can’t force patients to stay if they don’t want to. They have to sign the paper though and can leave. We can just tell them to stay and how it will be better for them. But no one can force them. The only time the medical staff can force if the patients are mentally incompetent and can’t make decisions on their own based on their mental health and other very few rate situations. But mentality incompetent is the most used reason to still give care to a patient.

Originally posted by: rhondasa

I can understand people critiquing his wrong actions, but standing up for prerna is one of the times he is in the right and people actually have a problem with that. Its cukooo. And it has nothing do with falling in love. It is basic human decency, expected of 'good' normal people and bajaj tho here is grey.

I think people are so used to itv caricaturish villains like komo, who is so one note and has no depth, just their to do evil stuff, that they feel dissapointed with a chara like bajaj, neither a full blown villain nor a hero. Yes he is selfish looking out only for his gains, but also yes, he respects prerna. Mayb coz shes accepted his daughter maybe for some other selfish reason, but the point is he doesnt like her being disrespected and thinks highly of her. Is this rocket science? Is this some insecurity about anurag? Coz i dont get it.

And he has no right to defend her from mohini. Like really? If that guy anupam had some backbone even he would have stepped up to defend prerna. A hundred times before also whenever mohini tore into her with her classist and disgusting attitude.

Reason I find his “respect my wife” to Mohini hypocritical is bec he himself came into the picture and showed little respect to Pre with his blackmail marriage. It’s basically a case of pot meet kettle. He’s insulted Pre too.

Any man who respects a woman would not knowingly ruin her happiness and separate her and her unborn child from the man she loves and their child on the eve of their marriage. His hypocrisy is what is unacceptable, he says these “mahaan dialogues” but his actions have been anything but.

Had Baj tried to woo Pre by showing himself to be an upstanding human being who would be a better husband to her than Anu it would have been a story worth watching. But he chose the villain route of underhand tactics and acts like he’s got her best interests at heart. She’s only been a pawn in his game to hurt Anu.

That’s why Baj as a hero is a tough sell. He came with intentions to ruin Anu and what better way of ruining him than to snatch his love and fiancé Pre from him. Even now he sees her raw pain and her feelings for Anu and he still only acts selfishly. Kuki needs Pre as mom was just a story he spun to give himself cover.

Why would a man who respects himself want to stay married to a woman who’s heart and baby is with another man unless he’s selfish enough to think about only about his plans.

Originally posted by: _charu_

What she posted is her pov and she has the freedom to put it across. Till the time the discussion is civil and within the forum rules, nobody should have a problem. We are only discussing the characters so its a request ..it'll be better if you can counter the arguments presented .

Yes, That is the forum is for to express our views. I don't have any issue of expressing her views. If you read what I said to TM is that

1) Did she conduct a poll to know what are audience thoughts

2) Is he some expert who can analyse people's or audience mind when they are not interviewd?

3) I don't think Audience means only 1side of group

Expressing ones opinion, views, belief is all ok. But stating my opinions are audience opinions, what I'm saying is thinking of audience is the fault

You can check I have kept it in bold which she posted. How she or you or anyone can what audience thinks or feel about anyone until their is some valid proof like polls or public interview.

But, what has gone wrong and why the audience will not accept this gyaan is because once he has started having feelings for her, he is not shown to have a remorse for the following things he has done:

He disrespected Prerna when he singlehandedly decided to get her as a mother for Kuki, without thinking of the pain Pre will go through.

He was not respecting a woman when he took advantage of a girl's weak situation to armtwist her to accept his deal

He didn't think of her respect when he demeaned her by saying he could get better girls at a cheaper rate.

If he had that much respect for Prerna, he would not have taken the decision to stay in BB.

He disrespected Pre when he equated her to his servants when Kuki went missing.

Pre's selfrespect didn't click into his mind when he was accusing her for removing his hand from her waist.

Above all, IF he is the one who hit Anu & hesitated to help Anu, that is the biggest way he disrespected Prerna. Because, Pre having not broken any rules of their deal, he by hitting Anu has insulted Pre & her loyalty.

With all these incidents still being fresh in the audience's mind and Bajaj till now not feeling guilty of how he has tortured & is torturing Pre, Bajaj's gyaan on respecting Pre and that too to a mother whose son is in a critical condition, will have no effect on the audience. Isaliye mujhe EK se ye kehana hai ki ye daal idhar nahin pakega. Next Joke please.

Thank you Faiza and The_Best for your opinions. I'm not going any further to explain what we as doctors face regularly bcoz of attitude of the patients towards us. No point actually bcoz I personally feel that the respect for doctors has been lost in the eyes of the society and such portrayals on TV is a boost to such incidents. But nevertheless I'm out of this discussion further.... Thanks to both of you🤗

Originally posted by: FaizaK

Sorry to intervene but this is exactly what LAMA is..Doctors legally have no right to keep the patient admitted again his or their attendant wishes..If they want to leave,we can only counsel them..yet again it's their own choice regardless of how critical their condition is..Once they sign LAMA it means they themselves are now responsible for patients conditions

This kind of attitude from patients attendants is very common in Private hospitals especially those who are admitted in ICU or Intensive care..and no hospital management or doctor hold any rights to make them stay against their own wishes..

Pardon me for I do not want to explain what I said and meant more than what I already did and it's truly getting a little annoying now that people are writing definitions of LAMA to me. I wish, statements would have been read as they were written. Thank you!

Originally posted by: muktha_cute

Yes, That is the forum is for to express our views. I don't have any issue of expressing her views. If you read what I said to TM is that

1) Did she conduct a poll to know what are audience thoughts

2) Is he some expert who can analyse people's or audience mind when they are not interviewd?

3) I don't think Audience means only 1side of group

Expressing ones opinion, views, belief is all ok. But stating my opinions are audience opinions, what I'm saying is thinking of audience is the fault

You can check I have kept it in bold which she posted. How she or you or anyone can what audience thinks or feel about anyone until their is some valid proof like polls or public interview.

But, what has gone wrong and why the audience will not accept this gyaan is because once he has started having feelings for her, he is not shown to have a remorse for the following things he has done:

He disrespected Prerna when he singlehandedly decided to get her as a mother for Kuki, without thinking of the pain Pre will go through.

He was not respecting a woman when he took advantage of a girl's weak situation to armtwist her to accept his deal

He didn't think of her respect when he demeaned her by saying he could get better girls at a cheaper rate.

If he had that much respect for Prerna, he would not have taken the decision to stay in BB.

He disrespected Pre when he equated her to his servants when Kuki went missing.

Pre's selfrespect didn't click into his mind when he was accusing her for removing his hand from her waist.

Above all, IF he is the one who hit Anu & hesitated to help Anu, that is the biggest way he disrespected Prerna. Because, Pre having not broken any rules of their deal, he by hitting Anu has insulted Pre & her loyalty.

With all these incidents still being fresh in the audience's mind and Bajaj till now not feeling guilty of how he has tortured & is torturing Pre, Bajaj's gyaan on respecting Pre and that too to a mother whose son is in a critical condition, will have no effect on the audience. Isaliye mujhe EK se ye kehana hai ki ye daal idhar nahin pakega. Next Joke please.

Yes. This may be the problem. So instead of accusing her we can ask her to edit those lines right ..but saying that posts r created everyday to bash bajaj isn't true . He is a gray character so his actions will be questionable n questions will be posed. So I hope..it's clear ..peace !

Bajaj is not some doodh ka dhula character, but I don't remember him slapping Prerna or pushing or shoving Prerna! Nor I think any kind of circumstances will lead him to ever do that! The most he will do is not talk to her! RB knows who Prerna is, he trusts her, he can never ever think of her as a gold-digger or a disloyal woman!

Originally posted by: MERARAI

Reason I find his “respect my wife” to Mohini hypocritical is bec he himself came into the picture and showed little respect to Pre with his blackmail marriage. It’s basically a case of pot meet kettle. He’s insulted Pre too.

Any man who respects a woman would not knowingly ruin her happiness and separate her and her unborn child from the man she loves and their child on the eve of their marriage. His hypocrisy is what is unacceptable, he says these “mahaan dialogues” but his actions have been anything but.

Had Baj tried to woo Pre by showing himself to be an upstanding human being who would be a better husband to her than Anu it would have been a story worth watching. But he chose the villain route of underhand tactics and acts like he’s got her best interests at heart. She’s only been a pawn in his game to hurt Anu.

That’s why Baj as a hero is a tough sell. He came with intentions to ruin Anu and what better way of ruining him than to snatch his love and fiancé Pre from him. Even now he sees her raw pain and her feelings for Anu and he still only acts selfishly. Kuki needs Pre as mom was just a story he spun to give himself cover.

Why would a man who respects himself want to stay married to a woman who’s heart and baby is with another man unless he’s selfish enough to think about only about his plans.

Thats y i said hes neither a hero nor a villain. He does both good and bad stuffs. Hes a selfish man, for sure, by his own admission. But he admires pre too, now again maybe due to selfish reasons but bottomline is he has an admiration and a high opinion of prerna i.e respect.

And bajaj is never a hero, hes an anti hero.