Can Prerna just leave all of this? - Page 5

NO one can force a lady anyhow. The problem here is she is allowing herself to be illtreated by both the sides. Mohini had accepted her wholeheartedly after Anurag came out of jail and now if her truth comes out she'll be respected. But no she choses against this.

Also when we talk about practical implications of life like insufficient education pregnancy no house etc etc so I would say just one thing that the daily soaps are far from practical life. Nowhere do they show people getting up daily to freshen up have breakfast and go to work come back in the evening have dinner and sleep. Is this not what around 70 percent people or even more who watch these shows do? So frankly speaking the shows are far from reality and people won't want to see this daily routine life in tv again. They need entertainment along with a good story. So I don't think anyone wants to even think about how Prerna would lead her life and all here.

Originally posted by: LadyMacbeth

Finally someone in the forum shows the courage, intelligence and integrity to spill some harsh ( albeit bitter ) truth teas ! Wo alag baat hai ki most people would choose to ignore/overlook or pretend to not understand what you are saying kiuuki sach...karwa sach kisiko sunna pasand nehi .

You have to understand that most people go to show or movie forums to give 'woke' ( does not matter how much absurd or far from reality they are ) comments, judge people and get entertained as much as possible while they are at it .

Of course Prerna has absolutely no way to leave both Bajaj and Anurag while she is 4-5 months pregnant !! Her mother ( the way she has been shown ) would have a heart attack just thinking about the social slander their family would have to face . Her family can not support her in this state...they don't have that money, connection and social status . It's laughworthy to suggest her to go some far place...you wrote precisely why she can't ! Because ummm....in the real world we need money ( hard and huge amounts of it ) to just have the bare necessities of existence...which she doesn't have...she is not highly educated.....she has no chance to get a proper job without compromising her self respect...can't attend college while heavily pregnant...what would she do ?? No one can give one logical solution to her problems...but blaming her non-stop and advicing her to "kick-butt" .

What she can do is tell Anurag the truth and ask him to take the responsibility of the child and give her money for the child . That she can do, but she chooses not to .

Didn't Prerna have mahila morcha on standby during Komo track. I mean she entered the Basu house with all the right & pride to demand for her Haq. Didn't she? What happened to that now? She didn't care for the family or any of that shit back then.

Now atleast we can't say Prerna was always weak because we have seen her take a stand earlier?

Prerna has no reason to be stuck in this situation anymore & utter all the saat vachan & what not crap, except her own stupidity.

Let's not forget, it is both men who need her more than she needs them. Bajaj would lay his empire for his daughter if Prerna demands it.

Prerna standing for herself at this point wouldn't be selfish or non-dignified, but self-preservation.

And Prerna can go to college in this situation, considering her pregnancy hasn't come with serious toll on her health. I mean I have seen women in my college, workplace going for daily job on their full term. Life doesn't halt with pregnancy if you have a will to survive, which many woman do. She definitely doesn't give 2 hoots to her child with all the super woman stunts she pulls. She had her own publication startup during Komo track, which she seem to have forgotten.

Raaste to bht hain nikalne ko, but uski majbooriyon me jo drama dose hai wo baaki sab me kahan.

Uski problems ka solution in 4 steps-

1. Tell the god damn truth.

2. Leave Anurag's problems to himself. He is not a child & he certainly can deal with them, now he is out.

3. Ask Bajaj for her the contract he acquired on her name. Tell him that she wants to do job & how she will not be all about being a nanny to his daughter. Now since he has told her about why he married her, she can dictate the terms in self-preservation

4. Tell Anurag of the child. She can have medical test to prove that her pregnancy is really old. That will simply remove any chance of doubt. Even if he does, seek legal help. If child is the hindrance at this point, get it aborted. Her sister faced the same ordeal, didn't she?

There you go, all problems solved.

But oh well, what's the fun in that when we can have drama with Prerna being insulted, berated & controlled by everyone around her. The woman has to be damsel in distress to show how good the man is for falling in love with her & supporting her.

Someone mentioned Prerna was doing her MBA. Which means she's a graduate?

Originally posted by: najma123

1. Marriage wasn't forced. It was harsh, it was sticky. But it had her consent. She went and told him, Yes I will marry you. Blackmail or deal or whatever, and there's no way she can prove that in court. Coz Anurag was released first. IF she had said No then, Bajaj could not have forced her without man handling her or kidnapping her. THEN it would have been forced. She kept her word! Compare this with ransom and kidnapping scenes from TV itself - unrealistic, but they exchange man and money at the same time, and mostly the family involved brings the cops, so they retrieve the money as well after they save the family member. It's not like the kidnappers say, we'll send your kid back tomorrow, you can give the money two days later. 😆 So assuming it is without her heart's consent, there's no way she can prove in court that the day of her actual wedding, she wasn't left with an option. Had Bajaj kidnapped Anurag and tied him up in front of them and told her to marry him, it would have been forced!

2. I don't think the 50% property is valid in India. Look at most couples in India, it's not US where Jeff Bezos had to give away half his wealth. Here people pay hefty alimony.

3. Domestic violence. And why would she do that? When the hell did that happen? And if you are suggesting a false case, if Prerna were that morally shallow, then she'd have backed out of the marriage in Point 1. Not get married and then file for domestic violence. And truth be told, I can't handle a woman filing a false case like that. Puts her in bad light. And she's too morally upright to do that.

4. She can tell Anurag. But her belief that that would ruin him is far greater than her love for him or her yearning to go back to him. And why would she ask money from him? Bajaj told her he accepted her with her child right? So that means he'd sponsor.

Points 5 and 6 are absolutely valid. But this is a TV show. 😆 So the show wouldn't be appealing if she were shown going to Government offices and banks for loans etc. This is not the kind of show that shows that. There are serials. But this is not the one.

What I would suggest to her, life with Bajaj isn't seeming impossible now coz she actually cares for Kuki. Why can't she study, take Bajaj's help for her education? Finish it, find a job, have a baby, or run that publication Division of his, become more independent, eventually pay back whatever Bajaj paid her, and then go for a divorce? And then decide if she wants to be with A or B.

She seems to have a real difficulty in telling Bajaj that she wants to do job as well. He acquired a contract on her name afterall.

Prerna can still have a divorce because Bajaj's act of hiding about his daughter before marriage is a valid argument that would stand in the court as an argument of forgery. Divorce doesn't need to have a reason all the time- just say it's a mutual decision or I want divorce because I ain't happy with my spouse will suffice in the court. She can still care for Kuki without being stuck in the marriage drama.

But well drama kese hoga roz ka agar itna dimag lga liya to.

Originally posted by: najma123

Someone mentioned Prerna was doing her MBA. Which means she's a graduate?

Yup. I think both AnuPre were doing MBA.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

And that's what we have reduced our men too, to only be providers & protectors with their narcissistic self, devoid of any empathy or understanding of other side. To throw reminder of woman's responsibility on her face when something goes wrong about their own. To make it all about themselves. While there is a dark reality like that, then we have a show that is going miles & length to portray how there is nothing wrong with this even today while we still have to show women all sanskaari, sacrificial, submissive, torn between love & duty in her own misery, while no side is considerate enough to see it now. What exactly was Bajaj thinking when he took the decision to shift to Basu Badi. He is supposed to be a man to understand Prerna like no other, then what happened to that?

@Bold, Just words ,with zero practicality and zero real advice or suggestion of making life better for her and her unborn. Ok , I get it . The two men are evil . Now what ?? What next ?? We both know all the facts and factors associated with her life , let's have a discussion about restoring her to the dignified life I assume you want to see her in , shall we ??

She can lash out at others , give them a piece of her mind and she's doing that from time to time when water crosses the level above her head and she did put her foot down firmly against some boundaries both to Bajaj and Anurag . It has to be some where in the back of her mind , that she has no option right now to throw these men out of her life . Without them , she'll starve and die , her unborn , if survives , will be looked down by the society as an illegitimate or has to resort to a way of making money that is dishonorable. They're her providers . She's no option but to stick to one of the rope or she'll drown. There's no life-boat in sight. Life is not a fairy tale. You can't cut the branch where you're sitting . That's not courageous but outright foolhardy.

She's living as her life with as much dignity and as much agency that she currently can afford with her limited life choices. If you don't understand that then you represent the mindset where we women are each other's biggest enemies because we don't stand by each other.

If I were at her place , I'd resume my studies , with permission from my husband , at home ( RB won't allow her to go to college because she's to look after Kuki. And no , she can't contest that or refuse to do that, she must keep her end of the deal , which is gaining her so many favors. She's not doing any charity on Bajaj that she can abruptly stop doing it at her own whim. )

Once I have my highest education in my resume , I'd again politely ask either Anurag or Bajaj , to give me a job in their company ( I'll get that easily because I won't have to go through an interview process where other far better experienced worthy candidates will take away the job from me. And also because practical people don't talk rudely with people from whom they're expecting help and favor.! )

Once I've worked for some years , I'd apply for a job in some other company so that I can finally be free of their shackles and THEN only I can dump them both for good and leave to live my life on my own terms.

Anything else and any method else would be illogical like Prerna's concave 5-month pregnant tummy !

Prerna did start her own publication, which they forgot because they had to show her being a sacrificial doormat. Bajaj won a deal on her name but now her only responsibility is to babysit his child, not do anything else, while he can claim to be the provider to the family.

You're not serious , right ?? What own publication ?? Bajaj's money , Bajaj's business , Bajaj's publication only. Prerna doesn't have the means to open a tea stall at present ! And no Bajaj didn't win it on her name . Who the hell is Prerna for Swiss people ?? Why'd they care to give her any deal ? No one . She's no identity of her own. What are her qualifications and achievements ?? She's nothing but Mrs Bajaj for them . First , let her make her own place in the world.

Prerna 2 is one pathetic character & others around her exploit it for their own purpose, including Bajaj. And that's the female lead for the present generation.

Even Prerna 1 was miles ahead with the control she had over everything.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

She seems to have a real difficulty in telling Bajaj that she wants to do job as well. He acquired a contract on her name afterall.

Prerna can still have a divorce because Bajaj's act of hiding about his daughter before marriage is a valid argument that would stand in the court as an argument of forgery. Divorce doesn't need to have a reason all the time- just say it's a mutual decision or I want divorce because I ain't happy with my spouse will suffice in the court. She can still care for Kuki without being stuck in the marriage drama.

But well drama kese hoga roz ka agar itna dimag lga liya to.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

So, that's the kind of mindset this show is trying to justify here. To bottle it all up because it's an ugly world out there, just for the sake of drama. To not even have courage to fight back & always be miserable with all sort of majbooris in life, even when there are chances to escape. To just continue bear it all, only because you are a woman with vulnerabilities. To always be ready to bear it all from all sides because you have so many damn majbooris, which are nothing but stupidity of your own mind. To be torn between love & duty all the time, while none cares about you. To prioritize men who aren't likely to give 2 hoots about your existence unless it wasn't about their own needs, over parents who begged to be told the truth.

@Bold part , please tell me did you even read my post ?? I've said nothing of what all you've written there. You've imagined them I guess . If you've no realistic advice or real practical counter points to my comment , you could at least not write some ornamental lines calling them my mind set ?? Or is that your way of putting words on other people's mouths ??

I never said she should continue to bear it . Why are you going on and on with that ? I'm putting forward reasons, real and practical and hard hitting reasons why she isn't saying to hell with you to both men and making a life of her own immediately.

I did point out the real and ONLY solution that she has and that is returning to her family and completing her education , provided her family takes her back. ( In that case , she won't be able to keep the child. ) But suppose she want to keep the baby , what then ??

Her brother's wife is making her elder mother work for money at this age , when she should enjoy rest and homely comforts , how much support do you think they'll give to her ??

And since we're talking about mindset here , let's talk about that for a bit.

What you repeatedly say in various posts and as well as this one is basically - a woman should jump from an airplane to show courage , not caring about the fact that she has no parachute ! Basically , not caring an ounce about -

1. The preparation that is essential before a woman of middle class background living in India can venture out to the real world and make an honest honorable attempt at living by herself. All of which takes a lot of time ( and money ) and can not be done immediately. Not caring about the perils and very real risks out there that can destroy her completely , as long as she stands up to the strong woman expectation of yours. Basically zero sympathy for the life and well being of a fellow human being as long as she's sassy and gives back to the males in her life, as if that is only definition of strength.

2. Giving a major thumbs down to all the women who are trying their level best to live their lives with as much agency and dignity as they could , with the limited choice they have , with the very little social or family support they have. According to your unrealistic and impossible demands of a strong woman, they're all weak and pathetic , because they're not all immediately leaving their houses to make a life of their own. Makes me wonder , have you even been out there among real women ?? Have you ever heard their stories , felt their helplessness , worked with them , given them any real advice to restore their lives ??

Do you even read the newspaper ??

Given how , you completely ignored when I asked what real advice you've for her new life , I guess you've none ! Well, if you can't give her any advice , you might as well not criticize her.

yeah it is indeed frustrating. I keep waiting for a track to be over so we may get something different in the next track but it never happens. I wanted the times after Naveen track and before Komolika track to have lasted longer. Thats when we saw how Anurag and Prerna thought, how their feelings were developing for each other, but it lasted too short. I don't watch the episodes either, i read the updates here and there but I'm gonna be stopping that soon too!

Originally posted by: HeartQuake

@Bold part , please tell me did you even read my post ?? I've said nothing of what all you've written there. You've imagined them I guess . If you've no realistic advice or real practical counter points to my comment , you could at least not write some ornamental lines calling them my mind set ?? Or is that your way of putting words on other people's mouths ??

I never said she should continue to bear it . Why are you going on and on with that ? I'm putting forward reasons, real and practical and hard hitting reasons why she isn't saying to hell with you to both men and making a life of her own immediately.

I did point out the real and ONLY solution that she has and that is returning to her family and completing her education , provided her family takes her back. ( In that case , she won't be able to keep the child. ) But suppose she want to keep the baby , what then ??

Her brother's wife is making her elder mother work for money at this age , when she should enjoy rest and homely comforts , how much support do you think they'll give to her ??

And since we're talking about mindset here , let's talk about that for a bit.

What you repeatedly say in various posts and as well as this one is basically - a woman should jump from an airplane to show courage , not caring about the fact that she has no parachute ! Basically , not caring an ounce about -

1. The preparation that is essential before a woman of middle class background living in India can venture out to the real world and make an honest honorable attempt at living by herself. All of which takes a lot of time ( and money ) and can not be done immediately. Not caring about the perils and very real risks out there that can destroy her completely , as long as she stands up to the strong woman expectation of yours. Basically zero sympathy for the life and well being of a fellow human being as long as she's sassy and gives back to the males in her life, as if that is only definition of strength.

2. Giving a major thumbs down to all the women who are trying their level best to live their lives with as much agency and dignity as they could , with the limited choice they have , with the very little social or family support they have. According to your unrealistic and impossible demands of a strong woman, they're all weak and pathetic , because they're not all immediately leaving their houses to make a life of their own. Makes me wonder , have you even been out there among real women ?? Have you ever heard their stories , felt their helplessness , worked with them , given them any real advice to restore their lives ??

Do you even read the newspaper ??

Given how , you completely ignored when I asked what real advice you've for her new life , I guess you've none ! Well, if you can't give her any advice , you might as well not criticize her.

I have some practical hindsight into rehabilitation of women who come from troubled background. I know women who left their abusive households to continue their studies on their own, to go for jobs for their survival, even with pregnancy or a baby, even when they didn't have support from family. I have seen woman who divorced, became widows all of a sudden but took charge of their lives, instead of going majboori ka shikar. The common thing all these women had was will to fight, win & survive on their own. Prerna is an educated woman here while women I am talking about had only limited education. She wasn't even so protected from the childhood,so she very well might know how middle-class survives, by taking charge. Prerna doesn't come from a family where she had a horrible father or brother but men who were supportive of her dreams.

Prerna has choices at her altar, something some woman, you are highlighting in reality don't have at all. But Prerna doesn't will to fight this situation at all.

Prerna had access to mahila morcha. Where did that access go now?

It is Prerna who closed the doors to her own parents & her own alternate chances. It is she who refused her mother crucial information even when she begged of her. Why does she think everyone is so weak that they can't take care of themselves? Why does she think Anurag can't take care of himself or his problems?

Prerna did begin a venture along with Vikrant, something she forgot to continue after Anurag came back to her. She is an MBA like Anurag, which makes her capable for decent jobs. She is living in an era where you can have choices in doing job if you want & have knowledge. Her mother got one at this age without compronising her self-integrity. Don't tell me the age is an excuse.

I have hostel mates from middle-class backgrounds who are working after graduation, doing freelancing small jobs even if the intial jobs are low-paying but they are dignified jobs, because for them being financially independent is important. Prerna lives in the modern world, isn't it?

There are many solutions to Prerna's problems which are purely self-inflicting.

And she can very much tell Bajaj to do job because Bajaj hid the secret about his daughter before marriage. That is forgery & if Bajaj is any decent character, he would keep his mouth shut on that argument. But nopes, she likes to wail in her own miseries & be rebuked, every now & then. For her only solution to any problem is marriage & sacrificing herself for it no matter how stupid that is.

I can criticize her because there are choices at her altar, she can very well practice with complete authority but well, makers are more interested in drama where she acts like a doormat.