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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: HeartQuake

Leave and do what exactly?? She's a young woman , pretty at that . Pregnant too . She's no educational qualifications. She can't take up any job that can provide her with bare minimum sustenance, a roof above her head , food and enough clothes to cover herself , without compromising on her honor. The moment she'll leave the protection of her home , she's absolutely no safety. She'll likely get raped . That's the real security status of young pretty women alone out there , with no back up. People far more educated than her drives auto rickshaw at Kolkata. Engineering students are driving uber Ola because they've no job. M.A pass people are working as house helps. Let's get real here and smell coffee.

I bet she knows that too. She knows she can't survive on her own. Her only options are reveal the entire story to her mother and brother and beg them to take her back and then she must complete her education, get as higher education as possible and then apply for jobs. Then there remains that pregnancy complication. At this point , if she wants to break free and carve a life for herself she must get an abortion. Now is the worst possible time for her as the as the baby to be born.

It's easy to throw around words like kick butts , leave everything and everyone and live her own life. If only life were that easy.

Our next house neighbor beats his wife every single day, everyone knows about it , he's also having an affair, yet the wife ( they've no children) couldn't leave her husband's house and this hell of a life because she's nowhere else to go and she's aware that her options are between prostitution, suicide or staying at her husband's house , working hard like a maid , bearing every single torture, because she's still having at least the security of her body , and food and clothing and roof. Reality is dark, tough and bleak. Look around . So many women are bearing with so much with gritted teeth on a daily basis because they have no other respectable options.

Before calling Prerna weak , let's give her some realistic advise regarding how she can have an alternative life that she can live with dignity. Right now , she's none. Absolute none. Unless she demands money from Bajaj for her service as Kuki's care giver. But then where's the dignity in that ??

So, that's the kind of mindset this show is trying to justify here. To bottle it all up because it's an ugly world out there, just for the sake of drama. To not even have courage to fight back & always be miserable with all sort of majbooris in life, even when there are chances to escape. To just continue bear it all, only because you are a woman with vulnerabilities. To always be ready to bear it all from all sides because you have so many damn majbooris, which are nothing but stupidity of your own mind. To be torn between love & duty all the time, while none cares about you. To prioritize men who aren't likely to give 2 hoots about your existence unless it wasn't about their own needs, over parents who begged to be told the truth.

And that's what we have reduced our men too, to only be providers & protectors with their narcissistic self, devoid of any empathy or understanding of other side. To throw reminder of woman's responsibility on her face when something goes wrong about their own. To make it all about themselves. While there is a dark reality like that, then we have a show that is going miles & length to portray how there is nothing wrong with this even today while we still have to show women all sanskaari, sacrificial, submissive, torn between love & duty in her own misery, while no side is considerate enough to see it now. What exactly was Bajaj thinking when he took the decision to shift to Basu Badi. He is supposed to be a man to understand Prerna like no other, then what happened to that?

Prerna did start her own publication, which they forgot because they had to show her being a sacrificial doormat. Bajaj won a deal on her name but now her only responsibility is to babysit his child, not do anything else, while he can claim to be the provider to the family.

Prerna 2 is one pathetic character & others around her exploit it for their own purpose, including Bajaj. And that's the female lead for the present generation.

Even Prerna 1 was miles ahead with the control she had over everything.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: _charu_


Bhagyas are better than kzk. Although they too are high on stupidity. But i can see why they are a success..But not with kzk. Kzk its just the glitz and glam , actors , costumes parties..zero sense ..kundaliis entertaining ..Nd kunkum has a huge audience base built up over years..I don't have any high expectations from kzk..for daily dose of entertainment its ok . Sometimes the forum is too funny. Anything which makes me laugh , I am all for it..😆


I loved dil hi toh hai . I just loved both the seasons..and kehne ko..have you seen broken? Its better than these 2..her web series are definetly better..But daily soap format is different . I am glad rishta series is doing well . They are bakwas and boring at times but at least they show that the serials can work without the negative elements too..I don't watch anything else..recently I got addicted to some paki shows again.

All they have to do it is to look at Sony shows. They are daily soaps as well & the content is mindblowing there.

Pakistani & Turkish shows are great. Even Chinese & Koreans are good. They touch some really sensitive plots there & one thing great about them is their female leads.

Look at Fatmagul, Feriha, Hayat, Bihter & so many others in Turkish shows. They face shit in life but they fight it back to win.

Look at Kashaf, Khirad, Kiran, Bano, Aiman, Sadaf & so many other female characters. They inspire you in a way to what it is like to stand for self-esteem, self-respect.

Edited by arshi_asya - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: reeyacute

This....original kasauti was so crystal clear.

Yahan sab dhundla hai

I still don't know what she meant when she said this Kasauti is for present generation. I want to be enlightened about from what angle.

Because neither do people are so heavily decked in modern times, neither is loudness so prevalent, even audience has evolved & has access to foreign content that can make you relate to the characters.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#34

Prerna was pendulum in season one. Prerna will be pendulum in season two. It needs guts to speak truth and fight for what you believe. Its one thing to be emphatic and another to put people on their place. This prerna can't do anything except crying which makes her extremely weak character.

Anurag neither able to handle rejection nor connecting the dots.

If you believe in something you put your 100% in that thing to be successful. May be Prerna saved Anurag but she give up their love. Prerna was shown a character who believes on love the most. Now is the time to practice what you believe.

Bajaj forced her in this situation. She is not liable to abide by fulfilling any duty towards him or his family. She is a person not a thing and she should address that.

Nothing is wrong in telling Anurag or anyone truth. Have the courage to be truth.

Sacrifice isn't considered sacrifice if that act doesn't cause any good. Her act might saved life of Anurag but create toxic environment for everyone.

People fight with rude arrogant people who harm their family not create family with them.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: yurimehta11

Prerna was pendulum in season one. Prerna will be pendulum in season two. It needs guts to speak truth and fight for what you believe. Its one thing to be emphatic and another to put people on their place. This prerna can't do anything except crying which makes her extremely weak character.

Anurag neither able to handle rejection nor connecting the dots.

If you believe in something you put your 100% in that thing to be successful. May be Prerna saved Anurag but she give up their love. Prerna was shown a character who believes on love the most. Now is the time to practice what you believe.

Bajaj forced her in this situation. She is not liable to abide by fulfilling any duty towards him or his family. She is a person not a thing and she should address that.

Nothing is wrong in telling Anurag or anyone truth. Have the courage to be truth.

Sacrifice isn't considered sacrifice if that act doesn't cause any good. Her act might saved life of Anurag but create toxic environment for everyone.

People fight with rude arrogant people who harm their family not create family with them.

@bold.

This. 👏

I don't know why should she not fight anyone. This track should have been copy-pasted from season 1,even with the revenge track of Bajaj.

Prerna 1 pendulum wasn't as bad as Prerna 2 pendulum to be honest.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: HeartQuake

Leave and do what exactly?? She's a young woman , pretty at that . Pregnant too . She's no educational qualifications. She can't take up any job that can provide her with bare minimum sustenance, a roof above her head , food and enough clothes to cover herself , without compromising on her honor. The moment she'll leave the protection of her home , she's absolutely no safety. She'll likely get raped . That's the real security status of young pretty women alone out there , with no back up. People far more educated than her drives auto rickshaw at Kolkata. Engineering students are driving uber Ola because they've no job. M.A pass people are working as house helps. Let's get real here and smell coffee.

I bet she knows that too. She knows she can't survive on her own. Her only options are reveal the entire story to her mother and brother and beg them to take her back and then she must complete her education, get as higher education as possible and then apply for jobs. Then there remains that pregnancy complication. At this point , if she wants to break free and carve a life for herself she must get an abortion. Now is the worst possible time for her as the as the baby to be born.

It's easy to throw around words like kick butts , leave everything and everyone and live her own life. If only life were that easy.

Our next house neighbor beats his wife every single day, everyone knows about it , he's also having an affair, yet the wife ( they've no children) couldn't leave her husband's house and this hell of a life because she's nowhere else to go and she's aware that her options are between prostitution, suicide or staying at her husband's house , working hard like a maid , bearing every single torture, because she's still having at least the security of her body , and food and clothing and roof. Reality is dark, tough and bleak. Look around . So many women are bearing with so much with gritted teeth on a daily basis because they have no other respectable options.

Before calling Prerna weak , let's give her some realistic advise regarding how she can have an alternative life that she can live with dignity. Right now , she's none. Absolute none. Unless she demands money from Bajaj for her service as Kuki's care giver. But then where's the dignity in that ??

Finally someone in the forum shows the courage, intelligence and integrity to spill some harsh ( albeit bitter ) truth teas ! Wo alag baat hai ki most people would choose to ignore/overlook or pretend to not understand what you are saying kiuuki sach...karwa sach kisiko sunna pasand nehi .

You have to understand that most people go to show or movie forums to give 'woke' ( does not matter how much absurd or far from reality they are ) comments, judge people and get entertained as much as possible while they are at it .

Of course Prerna has absolutely no way to leave both Bajaj and Anurag while she is 4-5 months pregnant !! Her mother ( the way she has been shown ) would have a heart attack just thinking about the social slander their family would have to face . Her family can not support her in this state...they don't have that money, connection and social status . It's laughworthy to suggest her to go some far place...you wrote precisely why she can't ! Because ummm....in the real world we need money ( hard and huge amounts of it ) to just have the bare necessities of existence...which she doesn't have...she is not highly educated.....she has no chance to get a proper job without compromising her self respect...can't attend college while heavily pregnant...what would she do ?? No one can give one logical solution to her problems...but blaming her non-stop and advicing her to "kick-butt" .

What she can do is tell Anurag the truth and ask him to take the responsibility of the child and give her money for the child . That she can do, but she chooses not to .

Edited by LadyMacbeth - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

@bold.

This. 👏

I don't know why should she not fight anyone. This track should have been copy-pasted from season 1,even with the revenge track of Bajaj.

Prerna 1 pendulum wasn't as bad as Prerna 2 pendulum to be honest.

but still she was a pendulum. This prerna has no clarity over anything. She is not modern progressive women . She is a door mate female wgo dressed nicely. Indian government making schemes which are giving full assistance to women for doing business. We have reservation for divorced women in jobs. There is lawyer who is fighting cases for these women.

Forceful marriage isn't acceptable in Indian law as consent is not there. Prerna can get immediate divorce and alimony from Bajaj. She can get 50% property of Bajaj. Why she is waiting? Anurag is safe now. What is the point of staying with him.

You have to be wicked with cunning according to Krishna.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyMacbeth

Finally someone in the forum shows the courage, intelligence and integrity to spill some harsh ( albeit bitter ) truth teas ! Wo alag baat hai ki most people would choose to ignore/overlook or pretend to not understand what you are saying kiuuki sach...karwa sach kisiko sunna pasand nehi .

You have to understand that most people go to show or movie forums to give 'woke' ( does not matter how much absurd or far from reality they are ) comments, judge people and get entertained as much as possible while they are at it .

Of course Prerna has absolutely no way to leave both Bajaj and Anurag while she is 4-5 months pregnant !! Her mother ( the way she has been shown ) would have a heart attack just thinking about the social slander their family would have to face . Her family can not support her in this state...they don't have that money, connection and social status . It's laughworthy to suggest her to go some far place...you wrote precisely why she can't ! Because ummm....in the real world we need money ( hard and huge amounts of it ) to just have the bare necessities of existence...which she doesn't have...she is not highly educated.....she has no chance to get a proper job without compromising her self respect...can't attend college while heavily pregnant...what would she do ?? No one can give one logical solution to her problems...but blaming her non-stop and advicing her to "kick-butt" .

What she can do is tell Anurag the truth and ask him to take the responsibility of the child and give her money for the child . That she can do, but she chooses not to .

I think she has immense power over both anurag and bajaj but she fails to excercise it. The issue here is not that nobody wants her in their life. The issue is that everybody wants her in their life and she has to take a firm stand against her choice. Live by her choice. Thats all. If she tells the truth to anurag and her family they may try to find a solution incase she wants to walk away with the marriage. She wants to stay with Mr bajaj as his wife , well Nd good, nobody can force her otherwise. But in this scenario she will get the respect that she deserves from anurag and her families.


Anurag will welcome her with open arms ,she and his child . Provided she chooses her happiness and love . If she has made up her mind regarding bajaj and her marriage , what's the problem? Just assert herself but first tell the truth to everyone and 90%of the problems will vanish.

Edited by _charu_ - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: LadyMacbeth

Finally someone in the forum shows the courage, intelligence and integrity to spill some harsh ( albeit bitter ) truth teas ! Wo alag baat hai ki most people would choose to ignore/overlook or pretend to not understand what you are saying kiuuki sach...karwa sach kisiko sunna pasand nehi .

You have to understand that most people go to show or movie forums to give 'woke' ( does not matter how much absurd or far from reality they are ) comments, judge people and get entertained as much as possible while they are at it .

Of course Prerna has absolutely no way to leave both Bajaj and Anurag while she is 4-5 months pregnant !! Her mother ( the way she has been shown ) would have a heart attack just thinking about the social slander their family would have to face . Her family can not support her in this state...they don't have that money, connection and social status . It's laughworthy to suggest her to go some far place...you wrote precisely why she can't ! Because ummm....in the real world we need money ( hard and huge amounts of it ) to just have the bare necessities of existence...which she doesn't have...she is not highly educated.....she has no chance to get a proper job without compromising her self respect...can't attend college while heavily pregnant...what would she do ?? No one can give one logical solution to her problems...but blaming her non-stop and advicing her to "kick-butt" .

What she can do is tell Anurag the truth and ask him to take the responsibility of the child and give her money for the child . That she can do, but she chooses not to .

There is many other options available if writers want to take a different route

1) forceful marriage is null and void according to Indian court. Prerna and Bajaj marriage isn't valid as consent is not there.

2)She should take divorce from Bajaj and get 50% property as prenup isn't acceptable in Indian court.

3)She can file domestic violence case on Bajaj. Police will handle him very nicely.

4)She can spoke truth to Anurag and maintain a decent relationship with him. Ask money for the child.

5)Education loan up to 10 lac is available all over India. Took that, complete your education, fight for government exam, seats are reserved for single mothers/divorcee. Took the chance. Its hard but not impossible. One woman around me choose the path and life is bliss for her&her child.

6)Government giving full assistance to women entrepreneur.Within one hour you'll get the loan up to few lacs. Took the chance. Many women without college degree is prospering in life with the help of this scheme. Prerna can do that too.


7)and last adultery isn't criminal in India anymore. She can have relationship with Anurag while married to Bajaj. Why men have all right to do what they want? Why once female lead is not free from burden of social norms?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: yurimehta11

There is many other options available if writers want to take a different route

1) forceful marriage is null and void according to Indian court. Prerna and Bajaj marriage isn't valid as consent is not there.

2)She should take divorce from Bajaj and get 50% property as prenup isn't acceptable in Indian court.

3)She can file domestic violence case on Bajaj. Police will handle him very nicely.

4)She can spoke truth to Anurag and maintain a decent relationship with him. Ask money for the child.

5)Education loan up to 10 lac is available all over India. Took that, complete your education, fight for government exam, seats are reserved for single mothers/divorcee. Took the chance. Its hard but not impossible. One woman around me choose the path and life is bliss for her&her child.

6)Government giving full assistance to women entrepreneur.Within one hour you'll get the loan up to few lacs. Took the chance. Many women without college degree is prospering in life with the help of this scheme. Prerna can do that too.


7)and last adultery isn't criminal in India anymore. She can have relationship with Anurag while married to Bajaj. Why men have all right to do what they want? Why once female lead is not free from burden of social norms?

1. Marriage wasn't forced. It was harsh, it was sticky. But it had her consent. She went and told him, Yes I will marry you. Blackmail or deal or whatever, and there's no way she can prove that in court. Coz Anurag was released first. IF she had said No then, Bajaj could not have forced her without man handling her or kidnapping her. THEN it would have been forced. She kept her word! Compare this with ransom and kidnapping scenes from TV itself - unrealistic, but they exchange man and money at the same time, and mostly the family involved brings the cops, so they retrieve the money as well after they save the family member. It's not like the kidnappers say, we'll send your kid back tomorrow, you can give the money two days later. 😆 So assuming it is without her heart's consent, there's no way she can prove in court that the day of her actual wedding, she wasn't left with an option. Had Bajaj kidnapped Anurag and tied him up in front of them and told her to marry him, it would have been forced!

2. I don't think the 50% property is valid in India. Look at most couples in India, it's not US where Jeff Bezos had to give away half his wealth. Here people pay hefty alimony.

3. Domestic violence. And why would she do that? When the hell did that happen? And if you are suggesting a false case, if Prerna were that morally shallow, then she'd have backed out of the marriage in Point 1. Not get married and then file for domestic violence. And truth be told, I can't handle a woman filing a false case like that. Puts her in bad light. And she's too morally upright to do that.

4. She can tell Anurag. But her belief that that would ruin him is far greater than her love for him or her yearning to go back to him. And why would she ask money from him? Bajaj told her he accepted her with her child right? So that means he'd sponsor.

Points 5 and 6 are absolutely valid. But this is a TV show. 😆 So the show wouldn't be appealing if she were shown going to Government offices and banks for loans etc. This is not the kind of show that shows that. There are serials. But this is not the one.

What I would suggest to her, life with Bajaj isn't seeming impossible now coz she actually cares for Kuki. Why can't she study, take Bajaj's help for her education? Finish it, find a job, have a baby, or run that publication Division of his, become more independent, eventually pay back whatever Bajaj paid her, and then go for a divorce? And then decide if she wants to be with A or B.

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