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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rnegi

again it all boils down to ethics and values. Would a man who builds his empire by squashing people of their livelihood live with himself? If he can, he is vile and can do that to anybody. Would I want a man like this in my life? NO. because a man like this has no soul. This is his core value and today it is strangers and next is will be people who love him. As the obsession to win takes over everything else.

A highly successful businessman does not equate to a good human being. Depends on who one wants in their life. Money or values??

Just saw the movie Bazaar with saif. Bajaj is like main character Shakun in that movie whose wife finally left him as she could not live with an unscrupulous man however rich he was.

I added some parts to the previous comments.

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Thank you for letting me know about Bazaar I wanted to watch it. I will let you know how I found it.

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Back to your comment.

True what you said is right, because you are judging the man from his professional life. And you are very right that, there might not be a difference in his personal life too, he can do anything to make his personal life a success too or he can ruin everything in his personal life to make his professional life a success. But how many times has someone's personally life affected by their professional life? OFC the ones who are very immature and don't know how to handle things. Don't judge Bajaj on the basis of how he crushes companies. If he had been a very rutheless and all the adjective you have used to describe him to be, he would have thrown the guy who didn't stand up to pay his Respects and even the employees of various other companies after taking over them. He clearly doesn't do that. It proves he keeps things professional not personal. And he isn't all those tahat you called him with. Also another point Because i go into so much of details of a character,he does tell the textile company owner that his company now might be sold at less than 50crs, if BAJAJ was really that bad man after seeing the falling stock rates he would have had reduced his price tag to even a lesser rate than said. He didn't he bought the company at the price he has stated before. Anyone else would had taken that failing company for even lesser a price! After all Zubaan di thi. Says a lot about a man though he appears ruthless ethicless moralless and soulless.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rnegi


and why is that a favorite couple?? we had no favorites when the show started. A person like me had no past viewing history with the leads or was their fan.

It is because however weak you label them, they are still pure hearted. I am convinced of their love for each other and want it to win. want them to fight their battles and win. It keeps your belief in love alive. If one moves on, it makes one cynical and most of the Anupre fans rooting for them in the forum, just believe in their love and good old fashioned romance.

first, I am not calling them weak second true, Bajaj is the test of their love. They should pass this test rather than fail it. If they fail love was nothing but an infatuation. Root for your favourites, stay with them in this Bajaj storm, if they are meant to be they will be. ⭐️

I come from a fandom who weren't even given a symbolic wedding at least you guys have so many 🤣 but we stayed till the end or whatever the end was for us because that's what you do for your loved ship. 😳 if they are meant to be they will be. 👍🏼

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

I added some parts to the previous comments.

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Thank you for letting me know about Bazaar I wanted to watch it. I will let you know how I found it.

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Back to your comment.

True what you said is right, because you are judging the man from his professional life. And you are very right that, there might not be a difference in his personal life too, he can do anything to make his personal life a success too or he can ruin everything in his personal life to make his professional life a success. But how many times has someone's personally life affected by their professional life? OFC the ones who are very immature and don't know how to handle things. Don't judge Bajaj on the basis of how he crushes companies. If he had been a very rutheless and all the adjective you have used to describe him to be, he would have thrown the guy who didn't stand up to pay his Respects and even the employees of various other companies after taking over them. He clearly doesn't do that. It proves he keeps things professional not personal. And he isn't all those tahat you called him with. Also another point Because i go into so much of details of a character,he does tell the textile company owner that his company now might be sold at less than 50crs, if BAJAJ was really that bad man after seeing the falling stock rates he would have had reduced his price tag to even a lesser rate than said. He didn't he bought the company at the price he has stated before. Anyone else would had taken that failing company for even lesser a price! After all Zubaan di thi. Says a lot about a man though he appears ruthless ethicless moralless and soulless.


the above post is contradicting your own previous post which said


"By today's episode it's made evident to all of the viewers that Mr Bajaj is a SHARK. Like you said he gets what he wants by hook or by crook. And that is what Businessmen should be. You can't be a businessman who doesn't know how to kill/ruin others to make your profit. If you have to remain on top, you have to bring others down, be it from personal front or from professional front. And Bajaj is doing and will do exactly that way. "


and that is the basis of the discussion

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rnegi


the above post is contradicting your own previous post which said


"By today's episode it's made evident to all of the viewers that Mr Bajaj is a SHARK. Like you said he gets what he wants by hook or by crook. And that is what Businessmen should be. You can't be a businessman who doesn't know how to kill/ruin others to make your profit. If you have to remain on top, you have to bring others down, be it from personal front or from professional front. And Bajaj is doing and will do exactly that way. "


and that is the basis of the discussion

I was just typing a comment for you when you replied

First and foremost THANK YOU for replying to me. I was dying to have a discussion without digs taken and given.

Back to this, see to bring someone or a company down you target them from their weakest link. AIB is an example. So that's what Bajaj is going to do, hurt professionally or personally whatever that profits him as a businessman.

For sure Bajaj is here to take revenge. Moloy the culprit. Now son will have to wash his father's paap.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Honestly Anurag should not to take hasty decision like intruding into Bajaj's house and enraging him more but rather follow what he does and how he does and take help from everyone. He needs an army he himself isnt enough. I get that he is inexperienced, but he should think like an intelligent businessman if not Bajaj himself, and propose Bajaj an offer that he can't refuse not the other way round.

Edited by MisHumptyDumpty - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Loved the command over your language man. Loved the post too. Btw, idk how many have read Paradise by Judith McNaught, the lead character in it, Matt Farrell was a ruthless Mogul too, and Mr. Bajaj kind of reminds me of him. that was some crazy love story, but idk, I keep drawing parallels.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

I was just typing a comment for you when you replied

First and foremost THANK YOU for replying to me. I was dying to have a discussion without digs taken and given.

Back to this, see to bring someone or a company down you target them from their weakest link. AIB is an example. So that's what Bajaj is going to do, hurt professionally or personally whatever that profits him as a businessman.

For sure Bajaj is here to take revenge. Moloy the culprit. Now son will have to wash his father's paap.


yes it is good to discuss so we see where others are coming from

The point here is that Bajaj is seen as a threat to the couples relationship and instinctively he will be a labelled as a villain in their love story ( it is one according to ones who are convinced). History of S1 does not help as well.

Now we are are at the creatives mercy who are capable of showing people behave so uncharacteristically and butcher them so mercilessly just to force audience to accept another man in pre's life. if this happens, this will put viewers ( including me) off as that breaks your connection with the story.

however, If they stick to the what they have shown so far, I would never want the couple to separate and that would mean defeating all that come in between them.

Lets see how they build each character.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MisHumptyDumpty

Very good post I must say. I only watch Bajaj parts and your description made the picture even clear.

Please try not to take my comments as a Bajaj biased fan but rather someone who has a neutral view.

By today's episode it's made evident to all of the viewers that Mr Bajaj is a SHARK. Like you said he gets what he wants by hook or by crook. And that is what Businessmen should be. You can't be a businessman who doesn't know how to kill/ruin others to make your profit. If you have to remain on top, you have to bring others down, be it from personal front or from professional front. And Bajaj is doing and will do exactly that way.

Moloy and he does have a past and that past is the reason why Bajaj is Bajaj today. Bajaj gave away his trade secrets saying add everything to stake make the opponent feel scared instead. Anurag needs to learn these tactics from Bajaj if he wants to have a fair fight with him. Anurag's inexperience is what Bajaj hankers on and that puts him in a win in win situation.

Coming to BAJAJ's personal life, he isn't a man who mixes his private and professional life at all. He keeps his private life under wraps. Being Sneha's daddymight give us another picture of Bajaj but that is limited to Sneha only. He doesn't exposes his weakness and that is his biggest strength.

Anurag has to learn a lot from Bajaj. A lot. If and only if he wants a fair deal.

As per prerna its her decision to take when she bas BAJAJ's past exposed in front of her. Will it make her fall in love with him or makes her hate him more, its her decision to take. For now she needs to be strong enough to back out from a marriage that gives her and her family nothing but tears and humiliation.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rnegi


yes it is good to discuss so we see where others are coming from

The point here is that Bajaj is seen as a threat to the couples relationship and instinctively he will be a labelled as a villain in their love story ( it is one according to ones who are convinced). History of S1 does not help as well.

Now we are are at the creatives mercy who are capable of showing people behave so uncharacteristically and butcher them so mercilessly just to force audience to accept another man in pre's life. if this happens, this will put viewers ( including me) off as that breaks your connection with the story.

however, If they stick to the what they have shown so far, I would never want the couple to separate and that would mean defeating all that come in between them.

Lets see how they build each character.

Absolutely. I am old.school I love to discuss to see different povs and that's how you know how much the show is loved and is being talked of. It hurts to see that there's nothing like before :( people love one line comments over discussing what they liked or disliked and what they want etc. :((

See,every relationship has to pass through storms and boulders and avalanches and even worse, billis and snakes. 🤢🤣 I believe it's the same in real life too. Test of love that it is termed. It saddens me to see Bajaj as a threat. Have faith in your favourite couple let this avalanche called Bajaj pass them. Though I have no idea about S1 but all that i have come to know is that, Prerna loved Anurag and Bajaj at different stages of life. If that is so, I don't see why people are fretting at the first place! The story is a remake of the first, it is bound to follow the first show, people knew what they were getting into. Isn't it. 😊

But like you said it would be totally wrong if they don't build up strong reasons, back stories and just shoves it down the throats. 👎🏼

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rnegi

again it all boils down to ethics and values. Would a man who builds his empire by squashing people of their livelihood live with himself? If he can, he is vile and can do that to anybody. Would I want a man like this in my life? NO. because a man like this has no soul. This is his core value and today it is strangers and next is will be people who love him. As the obsession to win takes over everything else.

A highly successful businessman does not equate to a good human being. Depends on who one wants in their life. Money or values??

Just saw the movie Bazaar with saif. Bajaj is like main character Shakun in that movie whose wife finally left him as she could not live with an unscrupulous man however rich he was.

@bold: assuming the corporation was practicing ethically before the takeover and that the employees were compensated well for their input. Which again, is a naive assumption since most corporations are cost effective, profiteering, and treat their lower level staff abysmally. The fact that actually worked in Bajaj's favor. He was able to convince the labor union because he promised them greater pay. And the pay they were denied for the past few months. Excruciating if you think about labor in general. Going with Bajaj is actually a win for them, too.

And any man who sells his company under a minute is a fool. And fools take themselves down. Darwin's law and all.

@red: Another assumption. It's an observation you're making. Not a universal fact or a fact pertaining to Bajaj. The hypothesis is yet to be proved.



@the topic.

I love this topic. Been waiting to read a proper analysis post on Bajaj. Bajaj is too confident in who he is. He's reached that peak point of success where it's getting harder and harder for him to imagine an enemy taking him down. Which is why it becomes inevitable, that he will go down. He just won't see it coming.

He's got a Machiavellian sort of theory. And it works wonders in the business world. I'm not one for moral policing in fiction anyway. It spoils the fun and complexities. I love my characters grey and charcoal. But obviously, they need to have a certain level of complexity I doubt Ekta can deliver.

I'm hoping Bajaj sets off Anurag's growth. Watching two opponents with philosophies on either side of the spectrum will be a blast. Only if it's pulled off well and doesn't ring as hollow as the Anurag vs Bajaj match in S1 did. KSG and Parth are both equally gifted and I kind of look forward to their scenes. As scarce as they're for now.

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