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Posted: 18 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: majumdar

MT,

Since you have commited the mistake of raising my pet topic- the great Dixit khandaan, I would subject you to a few questions.

Did JW not marry Rosh/Sonali bcos of the curse that ND had laid on him? And was his decision to marry Pia partly motivated by a desire to free himself of the curse as she was ND's daughter? And finally, what if JW had known that it was a suicide, would he have broken Bani's heart by telling her the whole truth- I ask this bcos you have handled this topic in "Ajnabi"

Rgds,

Pri

Wow...So I did raise a hornest's nest (Is that the correct quote?) Excellent answers guys...Coming to your question Pri;

JW probably had forgotten everything about Kiran's accident till Bani came into his life! He never even had this thing in his mind when he proposed Pia for marriage! It was only the fear of losing Bani, the fear of seeing hatred in her eyes for him, which made him hold back the truth! I have always wondered why JW never thought the same for Pia before proposing to her? Maybe cause, he judged Pia correctly to be the materialistic and unemotional kinds who wouldn't be bothered even if Jai had deliberately killed her Mother! But Jai got to know that Bani was someone who was deeply loyal, devoted and extremely protective about her loved ones and the truth about Kiran's death would shatter her a hundered times more than it would affect Pia! I think the only reason why Jai did not marry Roshni and Sonali was probably because he didn't feel that 'thing' for them or to state it simply, he did not want to commit himself in a loveless relationship and Pia was unfortunately the first woman for whom he felt 'Love'! I don't think ND's curse was any reason for stopping Jai from matrimony, he was too strong a man at that time to be bowed down by such a thing, especially when he genuinly believed that it was an accident and nothing else!

Coming back to the second part of your question, yes, I think Jai would have held back the truth about Kiran's suicide from Bani, had he known about it! I am not saying this cause I made it a part of my story in 'Ajnabi' but cause I really believe that Jai is very much like Bani when it comes to the question of people whom he loves...Both would go to any extreme to protect them, even if it means their self-destruction! Especially after realizing his love for Bani, Jai would have gone to any extreme to stop Bani from knowing how her Mother had died, only cause he wouldn't want her to go through more pain than she already has! That was probably one of the reasons, why Jai never brought up the topic even once after Bani told him the truth about Kiran's death to Jai on KC Night!

Cheers,

MT

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Posted: 18 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: majumdar

That is one of the thing that I like about JW. That Bani has changed him for the better. He had been so vindictive about P-P but he is not even aware of the fact that he has been wronged by ND and Kiran. Let alone ask Bani to apologise for her parents.

One general obs on JW. Although he loves his family sincerely, he is not really blinded by them. He knows that his sister and nephews are basically bad apples and harbours no illusions about them. It is just that he is dutybound to support them. Quite unlike Bani who has never figured out Pia's true nature.

Pri

That has got to be one of the best things about Jai anyone has observed till date! I completely agree on this!

Cheers,

MT

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Posted: 18 years ago
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MT,

( am not saying this cause I made it a part of my story in 'Ajnabi' but cause I really believe that Jai is very much like Bani when it comes to the question of people whom he loves...)

It is the other way round, Ajnabi had that ending bcos of your belief about JW.

Rgds,

Pri
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Posted: 18 years ago
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I don't think we can compare Jai's fault with Bani loosing the child! I mean what happened with Bani wasn't
a mistake - it was an accident!She did it for Jai!!!So we can say that it was also a sacrifice!!! I know it wasn't also Jai's fault but what he did in Dubai
it is a huge mistake!If he had done this with someone
else then we could say that it's a mistake but he did it in a very weak moment but it wasn't someone else!
It was his own sister-in-law 😡 And just like Rano said for this mistake he can't say that it was a weak
moment!!!I know that Bani should told Jai about it but
she has done or doing it because she don't want to hurt Jai!And I agree that Jai broke into pieces because he thought Bani has aborted his child!I don't say that Jai "should" fell miserable when he comes to know how Bani lost his child but I'm sure he will feel miserable!
And the last thing is that the divorce was the breaking point for Jai!!! But I say it once again that this isn't a reason for which someone has to sleep with his own sister-in-law!!!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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You, interesting enough MT, I was thinking about this same thing last night, in a different light!!! While you make really strong points, that do question their actions...I was thinking that, When Bani knowingly risked her child to go fight off the armed man right...doesnt it show that she loves her hubby more than anything else in the world?? Taht she risked her motherhood...for his sake?? I was thinking of this, that she cared a lot for JW's life and safety more than anything else!!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

True, Bani lost the child in a bid to save Jai's life, but is that Jai's onus? Did he ask for it? Did he expect this? Don't you think that if only Bani had used her brains more and told Jai about the impending disaster on his life, he would have done something? Else, wait for Pushkar's help? Knowing how delicate her condition was, she still stepped ahead, putting to risk her life along with the baby's! How come no one is blaming Bani for what happened?

the story gone in a imaginary line that the character bani loves jai more than anything else and she doesn't want him to know the truth that his own family which he lived his whole life for is betraying him... that time this bernali is not in the frame... naturally she was in an impression that jiggy and ranveer trying to kill him... so it was impossible for her to tell him that too.... after kc night only bernali appears... so i think these questions are irrelevant when that character portrating is taking into consideration.

if bani reached just in time, then if she waited for pushkar to reach there to save jai, jai walia would be a name now.. not with a body

Hence, my question for you guys is;

Do you think that losing the child is as much Jai's mistake as it was Bani's?

none of their mistakes...

Do you think it was fair on Bani's part to hide the truth of her Miscarriage from Jai till this date?

she still doesn't kn ow who is behind this attack.... still she didn't tell about ranveer's plan... this thing is attached to it... then a mother who lost her sense, if she did it to save her husband, if she tied herself on the last moment of her husband when a bomb is about to explode, it is with the best interest, not to hurt him and let him live in pain hereafter. so finding and verdicting it as a mistake i think the circumstances doesn't let us to take a side.

Do you think that the reason why Jai broke into pieces was not because Bani lost the child, but because of the way he assumed, she lost it? (Abortion)

both.... in his mind after all he did with patience she gone to such an extend to do it... but the underlining part is the baby... he is partial for a heir to him for sure... plus she did it to him.

Do you think that Jai should feel more guilty and miserable than he already is when he comes to know how Bani lost their child?

i won't say he should feel... but he will feel... quiet natural. after all he is say h ow she is d ying for a child... and when he comes to know it , it was to save his life she lost the baby, it will add more pain... a human side, not demanding or imposing pain to jai

Most important, do you feel that Bani losing the child was a) Accidental ; b) Sacrifice on her Part ; c) Foolishness / Carlessness ; D) The only way she could save Jai. Do you feel that if Bani wanted to, she could have saved Jai's life, without risking the child's life?

D. that is the only. one side none reached the spot in time other than her to stop the gun man. pushkar was away. nattu didn't inform jai. then there was no time i suppose than following him and do something... in story they concentrate only the chacacters

Do you feel that the Child's death was the breaking point for Jai or was it the Divorce Papers that Bani supposedly sent him, weakened him down completely? Alternatively, was it the loss of the child which broke Jai or was it Bani's loss which threw him over the edge?

you can't say it as a single reason. but everything involved bani... bani aborted the child... bani did it... bani want a divorce... and that too send to him dubai... he loved her so much... when we love someone and trust someone then if the trust broken it will like final nail to the coffin of his hopes. all these element worked together... then he him self told those whom we want to be with... that means how she meant for him..

Would love to read your answers, this question has been playing on my mind for quite some time now!

Cheers,

MT

do u really think any of these raaz and unsolved questions are there in the creatives pending job list.... it is a dark tunnel yet...

Rose

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

That has got to be one of the best things about Jai anyone has observed till date! I completely agree on this!

Cheers,

MT

Agree! 👏 👏 👏

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahimn


Yes, Yes, Yes .I have the choicest of abusive words for this clan.(God, it pays to work in Hotel industry 😆 😆 )Bani I wonder how copme she is different.May be for future storyline they will show that Bani is not a Dixit at all and thus the difference

😆 😆 😆 😆 Pri is famous for her Dixit - bashing....

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Oke let me aks you a Q....

what would have happend if bani didn't went after the killer... would jai be alive today.....I don't think so.....

Hence, my question for you guys is;

Do you think that losing the child is as much Jai's mistake as it was Bani's?

* no fault to anyone bani was at the wrong place at the wrong time.....

Do you think it was fair on Bani's part to hide the truth of her Miscarriage from Jai till this date?

* No, by has tried to talk about it.... but jai never wanted to talk about it......

Do you think that the reason why Jai broke into pieces was not because Bani lost the child, but because of the way he assumed, she lost it? (Abortion)

* the way he assumed and the fact jigs and pia made him believ about bani's love for pushy.....

Do you think that Jai should feel more guilty and miserable than he already is when he comes to know how Bani lost their child?

* no.... he is responsable in any way.....

Most important, do you feel that Bani losing the child was a) Accidental ; b) Sacrifice on her Part ; c) Foolishness / Carlessness ; D) The only way she could save Jai. Do you feel that if Bani wanted to, she could have saved Jai's life, without risking the child's life?

* accidental..... bani didn't assumed that she went war to save her hubby....and never expected her to loos the baby....

Do you feel that the Child's death was the breaking point for Jai or was it the Divorce Papers that Bani supposedly sent him, weakened him down completely? Alternatively, was it the loss of the child which broke Jai or was it Bani's loss which threw him over the edge?

* everything together.... the lost off the love...then the lie: that bani never loved him..... tghe hole divorce drama.... bani after his money.... ect ect.... but in the end the disvorce paper.....

Would love to read your answers, this question has been playing on my mind for quite some time now!

Cheers,

MT

Edited by shali - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Do you think that losing the child is as much Jai's mistake as it was Bani's?

I don't think that losing the child was either of their mistakes. It was out of both of their control. It was the circumstances that brought them to that point. How would have Jai known that there was someone out to attack him? How would have either Bani or Jai known that this could happen? I do agree that in the matter of their child, Bani was a bit careless, but saving the one that she loved mattered to her. Bani did what she thought she had to do. Yes, she could have turned to others for help, but being in a time constraint as she was, it might not have been possible.

True, with the revelation of the PR Raaz, we could see that the trouble somehow was going to begin. Plus they foreshadowed her pregnancy having complications and her risky pregnancy from the beginning.

Do you think it was fair on Bani's part to hide the truth of her Miscarriage from Jai till this date?

No it isn't fair, but the problem in this question is that she is assuming that Jai thinks it was an accident too, whereas he was told she had an abortion. She made that decision not knowing that Jai never really knew. She could have mentioned how she lost the child, but she hasn't. Jai still has doubts in his mind that she had an abortion. She doesn't know that Jigyasa lied to him of how she lost the child- but he does know that she cried over it, when Pushkar told him that she used the picture of the two of them to get through the trauma of losing their child. It confused him that Bani would cry over a child that she aborted at her own will.

I think assuming that Jai knows it was an accident has caused her not to say anything, as she doesn't want to look to the past and wants to concentrate on the future. She knows that it was difficult for the both of them.

Do you think that the reason why Jai broke into pieces was not because Bani lost the child, but because of the way he assumed, she lost it? (Abortion)

Most definitely. He assumed that she was doing this to get back at him somehow, but still in his heart he couldn't accept the fact that she aborted the child and was after his money. He broke down immediately knowing that there no longer was a child in the picture. I think that knowing that it was an accident might have made it easier for him to understand, and he would have known that it was difficult for her as well. To be very honest, he probably would have broken down even if he knew that the child was lost unintentionally, but having it in his mind that the child was purposely lost hurt him even more.

Do you think that Jai should feel more guilty and miserable than he already is when he comes to know how Bani lost their child?

Yes. He actually believed that she had abortion for a little while. Knowing that she had an accident will cause him to feel guilty for not being there at a time that she needed him the most. On top of that, knowing that he had betrayed her on a whim will cause him to fall deeper into his guilt, and this is something that he will not be able to forgive himself for. Knowing the whole truth of her actions will cause him to shatter because along with the truth about the miscarriage comes the truth about Ranveer and Jigyasa.

Most important, do you feel that Bani losing the child was a) Accidental ; b) Sacrifice on her Part ; c) Foolishness / Carlessness ; D) The only way she could save Jai. Do you feel that if Bani wanted to, she could have saved Jai's life, without risking the child's life?

My answer is A, B, C, D. All of the above! She never intended to lose the child, therefore it was Accidental. She knew that it was a risk she had to take to save the love her life, so it was a sacrifice on her part. She could have called someone else for help (i.e. Pushkar) therefore it was foolishness, but knowing that she was bound for time she figured it was the only way she could save Jai. It's difficult to say that there is only one straight answer because looking it at different perspectives, comes up with different responses. She loved this child and wanted this child, but knowing all the circumstances around her, she knew that she had no choice but to run like hell to save his life.

Do you feel that the Child's death was the breaking point for Jai or was it the Divorce Papers that Bani supposedly sent him, weakened him down completely? Alternatively, was it the loss of the child which broke Jai or was it Bani's loss which threw him over the edge?

More than anything I think it was the divorce papers that were rushed over to him in Dubai that pushed him over the edge. The loss of the child only helped to fuel the fire even more, but seeing that she was in a hurry for divorce.. well.. it pissed him off even more. He assumed that Bani really didn't want to be with him. I don't completely see that Jai only wanted to be with Bani when she was pregnant, or because of the child. When she left the house initially, he even told her on the phone that ever corner of the house was missing he, and he told Masi that he needed her.

Thanks MT!! Excellent questions once again! 😉😆 Maybe I had better start doing some work now!

HK

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