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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 9 years ago

#81

@Bolt- Due respect to your perspective but Nandini made sense to me and for me the show worked . Just like you would know the point where it sucked for you, I know the point where it sucked for me . We all are different individuals and we have our own take on the show and characters .

Parth or Manik had nothing to do with it. But now , if S2 doesn't sell me her connect or character thats my prerogative and that is irrespective of whatever is happening.

Characters , show or even what one feels about trending/HEA shit- let each have their own perception why troll/taunt/mock them for differing.

Here problem is not Nandini because clearly that was an excuse to question why I was not objecting trending or dissing out Parth or praising Niti- thats the issue here, Nandini or show was an excuse. Or why I am friends with those who apparently are delusional or why I am not moral policing/commenting on others for doing whatever they want in their free time.

On that , I give an eff to the off-screen BS.

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Firebolt

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Posted: 9 years ago

#82

Originally posted by: charminggenie
@Bolt- Due respect to your perspective but Nandini made sense to me and for me the show worked . Just like you would know the point where it sucked for you, I know the point where it sucked for me . We all are different individuals and we have our own take on the show and characters .
Parth or Manik had nothing to do with it. But now , if S2 doesn't sell me her connect or character thats my prerogative and that is irrespective of whatever is happening.

Characters , show or even what one feels about trending/HEA shit- let each have their own perception why troll/taunt/mock them for differing.

Here problem is not Nandini because clearly that was an excuse to question why I was not objecting trending or dissing out Parth or praising Niti- thats the issue here, Nandini or show was an excuse. Or why I am friends with those who apparently are delusional or why I am not moral policing/commenting on others for doing whatever they want in their free time.
On that , I give an eff to the off-screen BS.

No I didn't mean she never made sense, I meant at some point the writers lost track of her. Like you mentioned at different points for different people. I was just saying this deterioration has little to do with off screen drama/Laghate leaving and more to do with poor writing.

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 9 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: Firebolt

No I didn't mean she never made sense, I meant at some point the writers lost track of her. Like you mentioned at different points for different people. I was just saying this deterioration has little to do with off screen drama/Laghate leaving and more to do with poor writing.

@Bold - This!!

I have seen this show handle Parth's absence for days or week when he was hospitalized or on holiday, they played Nandu well, infact most of us cheered them on. But this time they couldn't because for me , writing couldn't back her up . Simple, like you I don't blame Parth but the writers/creatives for it. Also, Arya and Maddy not working for me,not Parth's fault but the writers .

Honestly, debating out characters is fun and I don't really care if your opinion differs but bringing out personal taunting or off-screen BS annoys me . I don't wanna baby-sit any cast member or fan. 😆

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jyotib24

@jyotib24

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Posted: 9 years ago

#84

genie...SUPPORTING FEW PEOPLE BLINDLY...Yes ofcourse...when people in YOUR post which was clearly meant to discuss bout ONSCREEN S2 CHARACTERS people used it and dragged OFFSCREEN BS by MOCKING THE ACTRESS then in return I NEVER saw u getting defensive bout it the way you got defensive when handful of ppl were defending THE ACTRESS...so m really sorry if I cudnt understand this ACT of URS...!!!
@Blue- So , my posts were on-screen, glad we agree on that.

Now , lets move to your perception that I didn't defend the "actress" because

a) - Frankly , i don;t care to defend any actor of Ky2 . Period, especially in this off-screen mess.

b) Wait, I didn't SEE you lot when some of the Niti fans made personal comments on twinkle and me because we dissed the character not the actor- we were told that we belonged to the kindergarten , we are Manik worshiping suhagaans and what now. Pity one account got banned-

@blue - as far as I remember in medhas post if m not mistaken I DID mention that 'v' don't SUPPORT such a thing...if sm niti fans are kolng u suhagans 'v' are AGAINST it...THERE u asked me to use d word 'v' carefully coz then again I was GENERALIZING but I was tokng bout a particular set of ppl u hv been familiar with since a long time...even before I joined d forum...

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4465679&TPN=3 - yet here is one example. I didn;t report those idiots too , because I can easily zone out the off-screen BS and what people talk about it- I IGNORE. JUST LIKE I IGNORED SOME NITIANS GETTING PERSONAL. 😊

You know why because our topics also get comments like these - http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4465679&TPN=10 . One particular member even went mocking the members who were criticizing the show , do have a look.

Or spamming the topic with http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4465679&TPN=11

I don't entertain them as well, but hey why will you bother , going through each of the comments and what shit was thrown at us , why will you care why we don't defend/bother about off-screen BS. And for us both sides have played dirty.

@red - its NOT always YOU ppl who get to hear THESE comments...apparently ALL those who have been watching S2 without MUCH complaints AND wr NOT part of d trend or SUPPORTING it either were tagged as MaNan HATERS and had to face criticism just coz some LOVED Niti and watched for HER and some for whom Kyy had become a habit irrespective of Parth or Niti..!!!

I NEVER questioned bout ur perception for Nandini...coz u hv understood HER ever since...but NOW if mukti n dhruv's one single conversation bout Manbir makes them more SENSIBLE than Nandini n you NOT speaking a word AGAINST IT but waiting FOR Manik to make Nandini SENSIBLE AGAIN then I dunno what to say bout it either...coz my first point to intrude this post was THIS very issue and d rest followed...

Here - http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4468843 - MY COMMENT ON MUKTI.

Now for your comment on why Dhruv and Mukti made sense to me because , I want each one of them to process what happened at the accident time - I don't think they are doing a good job with Nandini especially when they immediately transition her to other idiotic characters. Yesterday, they made more sense to me than Nandini.. am I not allowed to say that ?

@pink- as far as I know d moment nandini used to utter d name Manik d whole Feb3 used to cringe at tht name...mukti evn screamed at HER once later apologized though...so their REALIZATION bout d accident came a bit LATE contrary to Nandini who has been working on it ALL along...with Aryamann..so Making sense one fine day coz of d SAME thing wch Nandini has been doing sounded a bit odd to me..😊

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I know I can't debate wth you bout S2 Nandini coz I haven't watched any of the episodes of S2 till date n don't intend to either so m NOT d right person to question your analysis even...!!!

Funny , how you will taunt others for dissing the show without watching it but you will come to defend without watching it. Nice.

@yellow- I could say d same bout you coz earlier u used to make posts bout how d show/character GOT butchered WITHOUT even watching just on d basis of written updates n comments...THAT tym I NEVER posted n ol this while in every post of urs or twinkle's or ne post related to s2 I NEVER posted coz I din't find myself capable of JUDGING bt given ppl crossed every limit of righteousness I din find myself that wrong posting over here...

#Peace...take care..😊

Take my final say on this issue and make your peace

1) I refuse to worship Niti or defend her for her off-screen statements . That doesn't matter my viewing nor do I care beyond a point.

2) I don;t care for Parth either or what he does but he has played my Manik , I refuse to blame his mess for whatever they did with Nandini this S2. If you want to sell me yaariyaan and independent Nandini then they should have shown me something even in the first 1 week.

3) Cyber bullying- i dislike celeb bashing as well as calling anyone blind/delusional and all sorts of names to other members for having a different opinion.

4) I blame PH, Karishma and mtv. I have my reasons, they sold S2 on yaariyaan and I as a viewer feel cheated. I don't care what problems they had off-screen , because I have had enough with this show and all i care is on-screen which they failed to deliver.

5) I cannot fake praise anyone for doing this show because thats their job and if they are failing to provide me some sense or story.

6) I don't trend but I won't diss them. SIMPLE. What MaNan, Manik or Nandini meant to others and how they feel for them is their job and each to their own.

7) cast- including Parth and Niti be annoying for me for their off-screen silliness . I have zoned out them for an year and i will do so more.

8) Manik and Nandu is all I care. Because I know them , have loved them and still do. Not Parth , nor Niti. I am thankful to both of them for playing their characters well, but if I can diss Manik when he didn't make sense or vilify Mtv for merger , I would do the same to Nandini and mtv now.

Now take this and judge away . Because I am as sick and tired of this stupid off-screen BS back. I always put the disclaimer on my topics that not bring that mess but because it'[s a free world I cannot control others from commenting anything nor will I waste my breathe discussing that nonsense.

Lets all be honest you have a problem why I dissed Nandini rather than defending her coz Niti is playing her. For that, I am sorry but Not sorry. Character, story >>>actor😊

@green- YES I like Niti n m a FAN of HERS...but if it would hv been an issue for ME like other Niti fans I would hv continued watching d show JUST FOR HER...and would hv been ready with a long post to defend HER CHARACTER ONSCREEN...bt thts NOT d case here...I LOVED MaNan and ALWAYS appreciated parth for giving Manik n respected niti for being Nandini and even NOW for sticking to d show...but since d last week of S1 I had HOPE they wl gv us a happy ending..tht time I wsnt aware of d new creative handling d show though I knew Richa left bt as I posted in adhis farewell to richa post tht I had faith on vishal till d last week...bt then wen I saw nandini abruptly landing at Maniks place...I GAVE UP on THEM then n there n there was no looking back for me coz I knew that this SHIP has sunk without Richa n even vishal can't do justice to it...!!! So MaNan ENDED FOR me that moment itself...!!!

Go throw that post about "freshness by twinkle" how lovely people came preaching to us about realism , about off-screen BS and took it to making personal jibes..I DIDN'T CARE THEN, NOR DO I CARE WHAT OTHERS WRITE ABOUT Cast or Niti there. My post is for Nandini and if you cannot talk that then i don't care for you. Simple.

If I could ignore the personal tone in your note till you brought it out openly while talking about the characters, I do the same for anyone who brings off-screen thing to my topics.

@light blue- YES I was pointing towards you n your posts...wch NOW you seem to defend so earnestly...u choose to stay mum wen some1 toks bout OFFSCREEN BS in UR post bt u choose to speak and at d same time get defensive wen some Niti fans including ME try n defend HER in other posts..this post wl answer ol ur queries d top @blue 1 n last @light blue 1...

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?T😊😊😊😊

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twinkle10

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Posted: 9 years ago

#85

Aaah, the rather FRESH ways of conversing with people on the forum nowadays, oh how ironical. Making it personal, judgmental and then stamp it with 'public forum, my choice' - that's #fresh.

What an extraordinary bunch this fandom is. So many quitting speeches, so many "I found my closure" statements."Not following". Yet everyone jumps in, all aware of the status quo of both off-screen and on-screen drama. But hey, don't question anyone's presence here because this is an open space. And well don't question them mocking your presence either because that's their...freedom of...speech?...I think? 😕 Freshness it is.lol

No one is trolling anyone more than themselves here.

@Kiara - I miss you.

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Firebolt

@Firebolt

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Posted: 9 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: twinkle10
Aaah, the rather FRESH ways of conversing with people on the forum nowadays, oh how ironical. Making it personal, judgmental and then stamp it with 'public forum, my choice' - that's #fresh.

What an extraordinary bunch this fandom is. So many quitting speeches, so many "I found my closure" statements."Not following". Yet everyone jumps in, all aware of the status quo of both off-screen and on-screen drama. But hey, don't question anyone's presence here because this is an open space. And well don't question them mocking your presence either because that's their...freedom of...speech?...I think? 😕 Freshness it is.lol

No one is trolling anyone more than themselves here.

@Kiara - I miss you.

I el.oh.el'd at this reply. Promise.

Pish posh my life is hella boring. Who's Pa? Who's Ni? What's KYY? No idea.. but ooo forum fun, let's dive in. 😆

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twinkle10

@twinkle10

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Posted: 9 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: Firebolt

I el.oh.el'd at this reply. Promise.

Pish posh my life is hella boring. Who's Pa? Who's Ni? What's KYY? No idea.. but ooo forum fun, let's dive in. 😆

Not to forget. It's morally wrong and humanely disgusting to bash and abuse celebrities on SNS. But well trolling and mocking members by making it personal is absolutely fine. 😊

And yes ofc. We don' trend. But - Must. Stay. Updated. With. Tweets. And. Trends.

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 9 years ago

#88

@Jyo-

First the link you have give me was on off-screen not on character. So, that was my take on this whole circus .

I don't get the Niti defense just like I didn't care to defend Parth back then.

The topic was on MS - I responded because you and another one quoted me . I didn't quote you or pick your response . My comment was on the topic and to the topic maker. So , I went defensive because you Chose to pick my comment and question my take on Off-screen. I simply said - Parth and Niti have been bashed /bullied and they both have made silly statements , I ignore them and enjoy my on-screen entertainment .

What they do apart from it doesn't bother me.

But clearly that hit a nerve there and you want to question me on why I dislike Niti or differ wth her or not blaming Parth or what not. For your knowledge, I adore them both for sellng me the characters for most part of it- thats where my fangushing ends.

That has nothing to do what I think or post about Nandini . Simple. Just because I differ with you on Niti, cast and off-screen , doesn't mean I cannot differentiate on-screen with off-screen. Your problem is we cannot have a different take on this off-screen mess , where for me the cast , ph and channel have all been stupid and silly.

I don't care if you watch the show or not, I wlll never question that. But you questioned me , so I got "defensive". What do you expect me to do when you quote, mock or reference me .

@Twinkle- Dude, thats the thing everyone is trolling themselves including me but then why should I slander someone publically for doing the very same thing or call them names on SNS, it's virtual world , who knows how the other person takes my word , what be their compulsions . Fans raise this point for their stars but when they bully, slander others ..it negates their own point.

Also, you girl- this is all on you, I was ready to "move on" but the bait of freshness that you threw my way lured me. Go away, blnking star.😆

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AreYaar

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Posted: 9 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: nneeiill

I usually can very easily compartmentalize off n onscreen as long as it does not interfere with the show n storyline .. ..but clearly this time its not the case..now dont tell me maddy was introduced as part of writing and not offscreen chaos...LOL ...so i just wont blame the writers..and if I was put off its by mukti ... thats the reason i even replied here...just in one episode she chanted manbir and all her actions till now are forgotten...

anyways i was watching S2 earlier also and even now without getting involved in any sort of discussion coz no use man..😆 ...i could easily detach myself from S1 to watch S2..coz for me MaNan is not just abt a fictitious HEA ..it may be for many but not for me..so carefree viewing zindabad😆...coz one thing i know in Indian show u will get happy ending either with replacements or butchered characters...and ky2 is in that stage..accept it or not..

Bingo😆

As always, the basic point is lost in all the defensive and twisted arguing going on in this thread😆...Ek talking London, the other talking Tokyo...dono ko ek dusre ka POV samajh hi nahin aana😆...

No matter how many times we repeat the basic argument, ppl are on their own trip and just do not want to acknowledge the ground realities...so be it😆

Fact is, there is only so many times you can keep a ship afloat in such offscreen chaos...a line was crossed and there is no point of return from it now...lol yet ppl still insist that the show should have managed no matter how many times some ppl quit and return on their whims😆...I don't know which professional environment that works in😆

Ppl say this isn't about Niti or Parth...yet as I said some days back in another thread also (which no one replied to conveniently😆), only ONE out of these two has quit the show AGAIN AND AGAIN...so why WON'T ppl question the chaos that ensues when that happens? LOL usko question karo toh ppl are " bringing in offscreen B.S."? Ok then😆...ofcourse nothing should be questioned no matter how unprofessionally BOTH the PH and cast behave...our argument is regarding the fact that ONE of those is given a FREE PASS and nothing should be questioned cuz hey he played Manik so well for so long😆

Arey toh diya na credit...BAHUT credit diya, BAHUT time ke liye diya...but simple fact is that the offscreen shit DID start seeping into the onscreen storyline by the end of season 1 and created chaos and nonsense...so why should it not be called out then? Why the sudden diplomatic dance to pretend like someone DIDN'T show immaturity and unprofessionalism for the ZILLIONTH time? 😆

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Firebolt

@Firebolt

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Posted: 9 years ago

#90

Originally posted by: twinkle10

Not to forget. It's morally wrong and humanely disgusting to bash and abuse celebrities on SNS. But well trolling and mocking members by making it personal is absolutely fine. 😊

And yes ofc. We don' trend. But - Must. Stay. Updated. With. Tweets. And. Trends.

Is SNS Saath Nibhana Saathiya? Where did that come in? I'm so confused again. 😆

The Internet as I love to say - The land of the highly opinionated and easily offended.