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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: CooChi


Arey nothing serious..just small burns cause of the laser treatment. M ok . 😊
I see concern in your eyes for me which is making my heart swell with happiness! 😳
Thank you FC..and m fine! 😊



laser treatment for what?aww i care for almost everyone!and you toh love my laddoo that makes you even more likable !

do i seem that rude 😕 ?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: filter.coffee



laser treatment for what?aww i care for almost everyone!and you toh love my laddoo that makes you even more likable !

do i seem that rude 😕 ?


There were small warts on my neck..so had to remove those warts.
You are not rude..you are toh my LU partner. 😆
And yeah ..I will always love your laddoo and her filter coffee. 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: CooChi


There were small warts on my neck..so had to remove those warts.
You are not rude..you are toh my LU partner. 😆
And yeah ..I will always love your laddoo and her filter coffee. 😳



aww 😳 take care 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
Re: Nandu and her tangibles
When the show started there was plenty of focus on them. In fact one of my favorite moments from the early days is after jungle track, when Nandu is talking to her fireflies and she asks, 'How can anyone think I like...? Me and...' That one unfinished, confused thought had more impact than probably an entire monologue. Even Nandu's moment of realization regarding her attraction to Manik had no actual words. Her smiles post fireflies kiss, that dance with chachi these are the things that build connect. Watching her emotions play out.
During toxic track, that one scene when she's waiting for Manik's car, chachi asks her to deliver chole and whether Manik was okay, Nandu's lost and heartbroken expression as she replies 'I hope so' was far more powerful than her ten million tears and aimless wandering of SPACE corridors.
Nandu's character sketch is such that she evades her concerns. Tries to suppress them and focus on everyone else. In fact this is what makes Manik the exception for her. Cuz he doesn't let her do that. He pushes her to open up, to lean on someone other than oneself. Therefore I understand why Nandu doesn't have another sounding board like ManBir etc. because it would dilute the MaNan trope and no one wants that.
What I do want is for Nandini's reactions to play out. It does not require an external, I'll even take more conversations with Aiyappa (about something besides Manik for a change), with her fireflies or even with herself. But I need to hear of her worry for the brother when's he's admitted in hospital, her struggle when her character as a woman is questioned, her dilemma when she's trying to decide how best to protect Manik from being hurt, her fear after almost dying, her doubts about a weird teacher etc. This is what gives visible dimension to her character. Her sketch on paper is perfect.. it is the execution that falters when her emotions are underplayed or left up to extrapolation. If we are looking to maintain viewer connect, let's try to avoid doing that.


For me, in my head, if Nandu had this type of reaction post her near death experience courtesy Soha and they related that to her accident/parents' death it would have made more sense. But that one didn't faze her half as much. Now I understand some of it was an execution fail et al, but it still leaves me with the question of whether people react to/cope with different types of trauma similarly or in different ways?
Why was the Pandit disaster harder on Nandu's psyche than a life-threatening incident? Was it the timing or the loss of free will? Was it the encroachment on her personal space that made her feel violated and initiated the circle of self loathing and self blame?
Isn't that what distinguishes this particular event from all of her past horrors? In the previous cases, she never considered herself responsible for what happened. She felt helpless and weak in the face of things, but it never made her 'doubt' herself.. So ultimately is that what causes a human spirit to breakdown and lose its light? Never an external event, but the complete loss of faith in oneself?

Whenever M'lore track happens, I definitely want them to link it to Nandu's past and give it an entire canvas of externals to play out on. But I'm not certain if now is a good time for that.


I also want to take a moment to talk about change. How do we gauge the impact of anything in our lives? By the friction it produces and the displacement it causes.
How do we know that Nandu is breaking down, that her spirit is dimming? By the extreme change in her behavior. Or rather her reaction to things post that traumatic event. Is this the brave, fighter Nandini we usually see? Obviously not. This one is so far removed from the strong Nandu we know, that the difference alone reflects the pain of her suffering.
Similarly, how do we know how much Manik loves Nandu? How deep is her influence on him? How much growth he has undergone ever since he experienced true love?
By the extreme change in his behavior. Or rather his reactions to things post her advent in his life. When he makes a diametrically opposite choice, has a radically different thought process to one he would have had before.
Take that away, and how are we to ever measure how far we have come? Can progress truly be considered tangible if there is never any visible impact?

Can people really change? Essentially and at base, probably not. We are who we are and it compels us to think, act and behave in a certain way instinctively.
BUT can people make different choices? Learn from their mistakes and consciously take a different path this time around. Absolutely yes. This is the very reason we are gifted with free will. To help us evolve and grow as people.
And as a long time viewer, I could not be more PROUD of the way Manik has been exercising his will and reason so sensibly lately.
He is who he is. But he has to learnt to prioritize what is important. And that has made all the difference.
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Posted: 10 years ago
13th - That moment when you talk the show.

Very interesting take on Nandu's tangibles , I kind of agree with you but the problem is even her contemplation as one-sided it is, will annoy the trp audience if what she believes is different from what they see from their 3-D view. Like the first time she decided to leave Mangalore- everything about that decision was justified. But her fears, even when she monologues didn't register. But I know they will never give her someone to talk to if Manik is around as it breaks the MaNan trope. Sigh. But that is how it works. As long as they give her bonds, superficial or something like she had with Navya recently , it will work. It's the cluttering of her views amidst zillion of Manik's conflict. It's never her angst vs a completely blank Manik . That is hard because that renders Manik boring to few, completely calm, peaceful which impacts the tone of the show. But don't over-complicate his conflict by a sob, past angsty stuff. Give him some silly Music rivalry with harshad.

With Soha the impact couldn't be there simply because she was not wrong. The whole incident didn't undermine her own judgment. Her self was not questioned. Here with Pandit , there is direct failure of her perspective towards life and it threatens the self . This is as much as we protest started by Pandit's constant criticism of Nandu right from the time he threw her out of the class for coming late. You could see Nandu failing on one of her life principles and it goaded her. Since then the power imbalance was established and now that she saw the whole Pandit thing backfiring . She feels stupid, foolish , lost - her sense of judgement which she prided is lost. Liked what she told Manik- she doesn't know , she was the one who told everyone to be careful but here she fell for it. Guilt, self-berating and hate for what she sees in herself. The emotional trauma is huge.

^^ This played on-screen but because Manik's angst is too visible through his friends , they always overpower Nandu's struggle.


Nope don't want Mangalore track or her past right now. because that will again give zillion externals for Manik's angst.And we have had enough of it . Give the boy some break. Rather if ever, this time should be used to open up Nandu, make her talk family, through Manik's constant struggles to get through to her , I want Nandu to confine what she believed, why she is lost and stuff like that .

They better not undermine it by throwing an excuse for audience to hate Nandu more by letting her leave Manik and others without informing or something. That just undermines the whole track.

Did you just talk nerd with friction and displacement? I love you, kay.

But word with everything. For 70 odd episodes Nandu was real, perfect- conflict free, No angst . There was nothing to explore more about her vulnerabilities but it all started when she met Manik, her relationship has changed her .. Made her more aware of the world, herself, her own fears. She never had her life principles tested like this and this brings the fallacy of her idealized version of the world. It's true her conflict plays through her relationship and she seems to play off his angst while in reality the sub-text is all about her. As much as we resent the Hope, her optimism , she needed his view of the dark, cruel real world which she has been protected for long. Through Manik, she understands that sometimes circumstances supersede. As much as we mocked her for saying that Manik was not wrong as a friend when he left her during Musicana but isn't that perception of us the audience too which is why we understood his decision that night. Same is with her hope, now with this incident there would be a bit of cynicism , more depth .
Her angst had to be angst because everything else is so connected to Manik. Nandu needs Patience, some good conversations for viewers to get through her head. More about her through Manik, if need be.


Dude, Manik is such a well-written character, at times at the expense of Nandu and others but there is no denying he is a dream sketch. Not only you give him traits enough to base it to tangibles events like his give-take with Nyo, or his selflessness through Dhruv , his loyalty-fab5. But by teasing those bonds, they play his tracks and growth .
Yet even though the boy has finally understood that it's love , no give and take, so he dropped all guards and have struggled to stop Nandu's break-down , yet they gave a hint of his self when he used that egg- and told Nandu to bully him like he did to start fresh. So in sync.
Trouble is earlier they played a lot of his traits against Nandini and Harshad and viewers tend to use them as benchmark and think thats how he should deal with others or externals which is wrong because the canvas, the circumstances are always different.

I liked how they have eased his anger- yet the constant death threats against Pandit retains his old sketch while having him smart over his anger when the need be. Or his impulse , patience with handling Nandu.

His biggest arc was he used to internalize everything Nandu told him remember how she told him to embrace change after the hug scene . He played it with Cabir and when he told DHruv that he is moving on. He always internalized Nandu's words because they showed him a better more effective way of dealing with situations. He saw how his own anger, impulse cost him so many times , the most precious thing. Even the way he loves Nandu , there is so much joy because he values it, you know why and how important this love is to him. In these months- he saw his friends go through hell , heck his life has changed, the whole fallacy of their MO is exposed. They have all moved on . They really cannot be the same people.

I adore the boy , because his change is so gradual . Mostly on desi tv- they play the dark shades of ML in the most contriving , dysfunctional manner especially while setting a love story. There is a reason why I love Manik more now- because this boy has matured, got that balance and even when he makes mistakes , he has got a good handle to it, this sets him apart .
You and I both were while frustrated at how they handled Nandu during FC , there was no denying that they transitioned Manik so perfectly. Now when he says he ILU to Nandu when she is at the rock bottom, we feel the impact of those words. Or to the words he used to describe Nandu - he said all that because we as audience knows that he really does appreciate those qualities and when he sells hope, you know the boy has started believing in good/light. This doesn't mean he is white-washed, nah that can be referenced to how he tells Nandu that the problems start now or to Cabir when he says that he has been to the dark place. You can see the contrast in him analyzing the situation. Rarely they give ML such dialogues .
Did I mention I love a ML who knows his own change and the reason for it. Nandu brought in a fresh perspective and that has made him look at himself and his choices differently. Sigh , boy is a dream role.


Change is the thing, while some feel Nandu is one-dimensional/consistent, not denying it but that was because she never hit the dark space that every other character has been through. Manik could change because he could see a different perspective. Now Nandu's new perspective would be interesting. It shouldn't be too cynical but it should make her "strong".

I really wish they don't over-complicate or overcrowd the tracks right now. No adults. Keep it simple. Play off Nandu , let her talk more. Keep them as a unit- don't break the tropes. Rest be fine.


P.S. I love you too.



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Posted: 10 years ago
@wish and genie: HUGS to u guys..
I kinda agree with both of u... Woke up abhi so not many thoughts.. Will come back with rhem :D
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Posted: 10 years ago
Morning!!
Wish and Genie!!! 😳 You two!! 😳
You make me proud okay! 😳

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Posted: 10 years ago
Genie who makes every wish cm true.
Genie & wish- U both r just wow.

Nandini would hv thought bout her murder attempt and would hv been scared but at that time she ws nt thinking bout herself she diverted all her attention spend all her energy towards manik and soha murder case.
This ws always been the case she doesnt want to think bout her own prob so she always try to divert her mind.
In fri epi too she try to think bout navya and for a moment forget about her pain.
And whenever she doesnt hv anything to think all the bad incidents of her life cm bck to her. In musicana she try nt to think bout manik engage herself in everything else bt d moment when she was alone she cnt help bt think bout manik, compare both the horrible nights of her life. This time also she ws doing d same.
And just like both times manik hd nt leave her alone.
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Posted: 10 years ago
I want nandu to explain why she used to hate stars.

One ques I want to ask frm so mny days
When nandu ws drunk and manik hd asked her to cm home. Why she thought bout manik's house and why manik didnt say that he mean to take her to her house nt his.
Dono soch kya rahe the.

Ab kya nandu sach maine prof ban jayegi. Princi asked her to teacj other students how to play veena.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Wish's words
Let me have breakfast and then I want to reply.


Morning everyone!

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