The mind vs the Heart! - Thread - I need You! (Day 17); pg 28 - Page 15

Originally posted by: maankigeet4ever

me me me

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( My thoughts exactly !! Cavya are adorable the easy way they interact with each other, like they have known each other for years. Like i say: if Cabir was straight, i would daydream about these two becoming a couple)

Look..who is here !! the most awesome person on the face of this planet 😉 lol..i joke..well sorta kinda 😆 Let's get to business, shall we ?

I start with a 'royally pissed Dhruv with a dash of Bhang' lets it all out today. He might spit venom now, but he shall regret it. But the Cvs are going down this 'rocky road' to heal Manik and Dhruv's relationship. But i feel for Manik already. You said it: he will be hurt, a lot of hurt is coming his way in the name of Dhruv's resentment towards him. Manik is a great guy, everyone loves him, everyone wants to be him and such. My baby, Manik is such a great friend, cares for Dhruv like a brother ( calling him nonstop because he is so worried) and it's sad how Manik never get the same love in return (except for Cabir and Nandu).

Dhruv was pretty damn rude, seriously. And Dhruv suffers from a complex, he has been rejected by Nandu and has apparently played rebound guy for Alya. Alya really has played a role in Dhruv's volcano eruption, she didn't give him the chance to be the cute/caring boyfriend he so wanted to be. Dhruv was a sweet guy, and he would have made a wonderful boyfriend but Alya denied him that joy hence i hold her accountable as well.

Everyone seems to be brushing Dhruv's rude outburst off because of the bhang intoxication but our Cabira can forsee the future: "I have a bad feeling for this guy" Right you are my Cabira.

And the new promo shall come into effect pretty soon. Pandit wants to keep Manik away from 'his student' and Dhruv wants to be Manik Maltorta and he thinks he can be him when he replaces him in the concert. Nandini will be definitely be involved. As you said, she will be Manik's support system. And i don't know if Alya can do the same for Dhruv, I sincerely hope so but i doubt it.

cabira: everyone needs a friend like Cabir in their life. Truly a blessing. And i would like to thank him for reassuring Manik he isn't responsible for everyone, he shouldn't feel responsible for the mistakes his friends make. I may have said that Manik is done playing mother hen to Fab 4 but that might never happen. Not when they need him. That's why they should the significance of his priorities and how he can indeed balance fab 5 and Nandini because he first checked on Dhruv, made sure he was okay before he started worrying about Nandini. I found that quite endearing about him. He gives so much love to the people he loves, I feel as thou he doesn't get as much back as he deserves.

Now onto our Manan. He is restless, he cannot sleep in peace. He can pretend for a few seconds, attempt to brush it off but the worry will not leave him. "How can she be so reckless ?" It's not Nandini he doesn't trust but it's the Pandit whose intentions he questions. his Nandini all alone with Pandit, not gonna happen while Manik Maltorta is around.

Nandu's worry for Manik, running to see if he is here: small yet meaningful moments. He will always be the first for her, that's the main reason she can't focus on music. Manik is the only thing on her mind, her first thought as she feels a presence. Her first image when she closes her eyes. Fire, she says she sees. She didn't lie, Manik is her fire, all consumed with anger at times, his arms are like her personal heater, his love strong as a blazing fire, his passion that has the power to burn her with desire. And she is his water, his calm when he is raging a fire of anger. his soothing balm. Opposites but together they are perfect.

A child lives in Manik Maltorta, with Nandini he can let that child out. He can do childish antics he probably never did as a child. And he knows her so well. Not only the man shows up to college early to guard his girl, he can't keeo it simple.Nope, It's gotta be MM style so knowing his girl well, he brings a remote controlled rat.haha. The Pandit should know Nandini Murthy isn't all quietness and cuteness. her aaa escalating into AAA: hahaha

And when she catches him red-handed, he looks like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Today's Manan sceene was both fun with Nandu's teasing yet beautifully filled with emotion( with her realisation and delight that he still cares for her and of course the hug). She lights up like the very shining star she is for him when she realizes he has come to college for her, that he is jealous. But darling, he isn't just jealous, he is fiercely protective of you, especially possessive when it comes to you. And he is afraid for you. "Problem..problem hai." he doesn't trust this Pandit and his intentions, he can't stand how "he was just checking you out." But, she doesn't see anything past Manik and his love and care for her, she doesn't see what the Pandit may eventually do. Right now, she is delighted and playful as she teases him and all he can say is "bullshit'..lol. She sees through him anyway. iThe emotion behind that 'bullshit' And it means alot to her. Let me tell you something Manik Malttorta, "bullshit and nonsense" aren't much of comebacks for a sassy man such as yourself.

And shining like the star is she, she embraces him tight and spreads her brightness as their bodies touch and the darkness Manik promised himself that fateful Valentine night fades a little more as his arms come around her, the mind barely put up a fight. He closes his eyes as his heart finds the utmost peace. His cheek rests comfortably against her head and he does a slight sway. My beautiful moment right there ! Nandini may have initiated the hug but Manik needed it as much, he was going away from her a day, not being able to see her for hours; he needed that last touch.

Oh flip sauce this is already too lengthy and i haven't mentioned Pandit and his boisterous claim: I am her guru. I would recommend that you stick to that role only Panditji. Because a certain Manik Maltorta doesn't need to remain your student to take care of his girl. The man got his own MM ways. But Pandit did stump our Manik: "who are you to her ?" Yeah Manik, who are you to her? the world is bound to question and it's probably one you need to answer to yourself if not to the world. Is she your true love ? Is she your shining star still ? Hmmm, Think Manik Maltorta, Think. You did really well on the Pandit and Manik section for the epi so i won't add much anyway.

Fabulous as always my lovely. You have such a flair with words, i am in awe every time and i applaud you.

Muahhh

- Reya aka Your Sunny <3

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

You know what i think... I think Maanik is so wrapped up in feeling of betrayal that he is negelecting all other feelings towards Nandini.. He finds those feelings illusion... He is still so stuck up in the moment when Nandini told judge that she doesnt know... That he hasnt moved past it... He has forgotten what his heart feels... And by that i mean what it really feels... He needed this wake up call from third person about how even without any mistake from any of them, things could go wrong.. And it is then that you need to stand by each other and fight it out.. Together.. You arent suppose to sacrifice.. You arent suppose to play blame game.. You are just suppose to stand by each other.. You are suppose to be there for each other.. When one person feels low, the other has to make up for it.. Not pull him/her down.. That conversation that mukti had with Maanik about being there with a smiling face for Abhimanyu just to make sure he knows she loves him.. Yeah.. That is what love is.. It isnt thinking about how Its going to end badly so let me just pull myself out.. Or abhi asking her to stay away from him... It is spending whatever time left together.. Be it sad or happy moments.. Sharing them... It was very important for Maanik to listen to that because clearly he is still wallowing in his wounds.. feeling of betrayal.. But he has to snap out of it.. Because *true love is not easy*... Loved mukti today.. I read so many posts today that said how angry manan fans feel for she snapping at nandini.. But when i think from Mukti's angle.. It seems like she was justified.. First of all she didnt want to let fab 5 know because she didnt want to be lectured to separate from Abhi.. And she knew.. we knew thats how they were going to react... Wasnt that exactly what maanik was suggesting.. Fab 5 - group of broken friends.. Who have not really seen true love.. How could they understand it... How could they understand her need to be with Abhi even if its just for few days/months... So she wanted to protect herself.. Yes in Fab 5 now they have their own set of problems.. their own secrets... But thats bound to happen in life.. They arent just kids coming from broken families.. They are growing and having different experiences and hence different problems.. And its that feeling of being bound because of same experiences make them not share these new issues with one another.. If they were from normal family, their parents would have taught them., helped them believe they can share anything with loved ones.. But thats not them.. And that explains Mukti's and for that matter each member of fab5's need to hide these things from one another... Just loved this whole reveal of Abhi's cancer.. how it covered so many emotions especially for fab5.. They have always ran away from these.. Gotten away by bullying people and protecting themselves.. But how long.. The real world out there it doesnt work like that... You have to deal with these issues.. You need to forget, forgive mistakes other make.. And in turn that allows you also to be human because then you can make mistakes too.. Because there is someone who will still understand you.. still be with you.. with your flaws.. Just because of Love.. So yeah today was big lesson in Love for Maanik...Learning what trust really means.. It doesnt mean that it is broken by doubt.. It means someone being with you even through those doubtful times..

You mention that Nandini has scope to grow.. Yes every person needs to grow... But i differ here in what you thought of that scene with Abhi... I rather take it as lesson for her to be who she is... not change just because some trouble pops up.. She doesnt need to say something she doesnt feel.. Abhi is not forgetting his smile.. Need to make others smile just because he is in love.. He is keeping his attitude towards life for himself.. For Mukti and for everyone around him.. He lectures her about wasting time.. Because he cant see tears... He is just being himself... even on deathbed.. Even in tough situation there is no need to change... He loves mukti for who she is so he understands her anger.. She loves him and his need to make people around him smile... so she is with him with same smiling face.. That's what love is.. Understanding each other.. Understanding the pros, understanding the flaws and being with one another for that.. not despite of those.. Nandini needs to learn that just because she thought maanik could kill soha for herself.. She isnt wrong.. It isnt mistake that can not be forgiven.. Infact i feel she needs to understand that what she felt was what she felt.. Just like love it is not right or wrong.. And she shouldnt be sorry for expressing what she felt.. And by expressing her doubt she is not doubting their love.. If she was.. She would be hiding somewhere and wouldnt have come in front of the judge.. I feel like her innocence.. Her attitude of always trying to do right thing is something to admire..Well we all know Maanik didnt kill Soha.. But would he have killed.. I can bet by first unborn child that if need be, he would have... That much in love he is with her.. Whats wrong in having those doubt.. Its time to stop feeling guilty..

Also i am not sure communication is what caused this.. I agree they need to learn to communicate better.. But Maanik informing about his feelings to Fab 5.. I dont think it would have changed what Nandini got manipulated into.. For eg.. wasnt cabir aware of the situation.. He was there to talk to her.. And yet he told her that Maanik can do anything for her then be it killing... I strongly strongly think its maanik's lack of belief in true love.. And understanding of what exactly it is that they are walking two different roads at this point..

Oh i love the last scene.. Maanik is still confused about his feelings.. You have said it.. Its more of confusion of whether he can let himself feel that .. whether he can forgive her.. accept her with her flaws.. It isnt required that whatever she thinks has to be right... But that also doesnt mean she isnt allowed to think that way.. It doesn't mean she trust him any less.. When he talked about illusion i felt sorry for him.. Really.. Because even with presence of true love of Mukti and Abhi, Mukti opening her heart out on what she feels, what she is willing do, he cant believe it.. Why cant he see what he is willing to do for Nandini.. How he is not willing to let her go.. His wound.. Well he cant think that is bigger than what he was saying right infront of her.. Infact how is him hurting her every day.. taunting her.. doubting her love, her trust every day since different from what she did that day.. I would say thats even bigger mistake.. yet she is there.. She is fighting for it.. Dude.. Watch it out.. Otherwise it might be late.. Sitting in hospital and watching a person on death bed should make you realize that.. So yes when he uttered those words i feel sorry that he couldnt learn all these lessons he could have learnt.. True love he could have which as he said is so rare.. Its time to grow up.. Really...

Well i am excited for holi.. It does really look like sexiest holi party ever.. I just dont know how its going to move ahead with all the drama that happened today.. But i trust cvs to do justice to the story and give us awesome scenes without loosing the essence... Looking fwd to it.. Happy Holi :)

Originally posted by: twinkle10

Yeah I guess we half-half agree on the idea of the miscommunication. Perhaps Manik ending up behind bars for a while was unavoidable but at the same time, maybe if Fab 5 had known of the situation and nyonika's manipulation scheme a little more clearly, they would've understood Nandini better and she would've been saved from the unnecessary humiliation she faces every now and then. But then again, Fab 5 have always been really possessive about each other so they don't really like any intruders into their bubble, haha

Originally posted by: anotheranfan

Hey twinkle..

Finally i get to reply to your posts. May be not as detailed as i would like but never the less :)

Holi episodes:

as i mentioned earlier i like how this along with mukti-abhi angle brought the much needed change in manan relation.. They needed this push to get past the hate vs hope battle from the draw it was going through.. His heart was already on fence all ready to jump on her side but it needed that little push that mukti-abhi's situation along with her being on his side even if he needed her to be or not and begging him to let mukti experience that love gave,, The heart jumped the sides at that moment and it seems like when he talked with chachi about friends missing her it was more he missing her and not just that day but since the day he uttered those *i hate you* words.. Btw i love chachi and how she brings those light moments making it entertaining and yet being biggest helper in getting manan together. .Her overacting to get nandini to maanik's house and her delight when she was ready to go there was treat to watch..

And how can i forget the hotness that the pool scene was.. It wasnt just hotness, desire.. It was test of the trust ...Maanik's mind was barely there .. I dont think it was even there when he said *right you dont trust me*.. It was all his heart.. The hurt, the pain, the hope.. it was everything.. Everything that true love needs to have and experience.. The way to get over that hurt.. way to be able to with each other even if other person hurts you deeply.. Holi really brought back colors in their lives..

And Niyo trying to make things *more interesting* :) Maanik did exactly what she expected him to do.. And yet she was way off on how it would affect manan relation :) It just brought them closer..

Today's episodes:

As you mentioned i had two favorite moments in todays episode. The first one like you highlighted in your post had to be one when Nandini replies maanik *what nahi wow... you are jealous* Really the joy in her eyes that was contagious.. My heart too swell with hers... It really was worth more than a point.. It was a clear cut victory of her heart, her hope, his hope... Together they seem to have made his mind go into hibernation and i love it.. The way Nandini was so direct today when she told him that she likes that he was jealous, worried and cared for her... Yes thats Nandini from Manan.. His wounds definitely seem to be healing especially with the danger lurking around her, he cant spend time thinking about his angst.. Because his heart wont let him.. And wow that hug.. It was like two people were home... And i wouldnt discount the fact that maanik was not straight away in face of Panditji and went and confronted him ..He rather chose weapon that would sure shot work.. Her weakness that he only knew.. And she came running back to him :) The whole scene was totally unexpected and hence even more delightful.

Second moment would be when Panditji asks Maanik *who are you to her* Haha.. Well he might be quite but his silence was the answer.. and it wouldnt be long before he wouldnt hesitate to put that in words.. That question must have bolted him out of his so called *hate* He sure has lot to think during his time away from her in warrior high.. May be he will find ways to get over his hurt and forgive her.. Well we know he has forgiven her but to be able to digest that fact is different story.. May be the distance and helplessness with not being able to protect her when he is away would help.. Jealousy and distance both can be pretty damn remedy.. So i like what will be in store..

Well i differ in your opinion on dhruv angle.. I dont think maanik would be as hurt or angry as he is with nandini.. For him Nandini is his savior, star who will protect him.. But dhruv.. Maanik feels need to protect him.. the roles are quite reversed.. So the expectations differ.. Not saying he would be hurt by the fact that dhruv is letting out his inferiority complex, but i think maanik's need to protect him would take over and more than hurt it would be that feeling that play role in there.

Also differ on cabir and navya - i like them more because they are showing different type of relationship.. Not all relations have to have romantic angle and they are tapping in that angle and hence i like them.. they both are funny, both broken in love.. So they bond over that and they understand each other better.. Thats what interests me to see in them.. The understanding that comes with living with each other.. May not have been by choice but now they are secretly enjoying it.. They kind of feel in missing parts in each other's lives, for cabir it is his mother and her affection thats what navya provides him while for navya its support that she needs to be able to get through her pregnancy..

Oh and panditji.. I havent made my mind yet on how they have made him look at nandini over since holi.. i really wanted it to be more of teacher and student relation, which no doubt they are showing but the unnecessary staring - thats what is not needed.. Not everyone needs to start having romantic feeling looking at people they are around.. But i will not discredit this new development just yet.. Lets see how this plays out.

Originally posted by: twinkle10

Good day lovely! Alright so I'll actually start off with the last part and then head upto manan lol

So yes I agree that pnaditji's character is sort of like an question mark for me too. I don't know whether I actually like him for the fact that he wants to take out the best in Nandini in terms of her music or whether I should be a little eeried out about his rather vaguely paedophilic intentions. Honestly, I had quite liked his entry into the show because we all wanted to see Nandini balance and pay heed to her music too. And I liked the idea of him being her guru because he would've mentored her to become a fairly balanced individual in life. He would've taught her the importance of discipline, focus and priorities and she could've actually teleported some of these learnings into her relationship with manik. But honestly I'm a little afraid for her too at this stage and I hope opanditji's character doesn't take on an insecure or possessive character just because he seems to be her grandmother's student as well. But I guess as his intentions and actions unfold, we'll be able to map out his character a little better as I feel this is just the beginning too.

You have a pretty valid point there about Cavya.. they are the way they are because of the vacancies and absences they fill in each other's life. No doubt we might haven't cherished them so much if they were all intense and touchy-touchy too lol Oh lord that's actually quite impossible to imagine as well... Let's just keep them the way they are haha Generally though... like I'm talking about life and out of this show... relationships should be like that of Cavya. Where you are each other's friends first. They seem to complete each other in a weirdly awkward way but it actually works out for them. And we will see that their unspoken understanding and care towards each other will blossom into the purest type of friendship.

Again, pretty decent point you have their for Manik and Dhruv's relationship. His need of protecting him will certainly overpower the feelings of hurt or pain since he has spent most of his life caring for Dhruv as an elder brother almost. But you know this is actually an interesting point you raised because in your last post remember how you mentioned that Manik needed to learn that even if Nandini had thought of him to be able to kill soha... he shouldn't have just abandoned and disregarded her love. It was the time for them to battle these obstacles together. And you had also mentioned I think that how he should have overlooked his pain and ego and also realised that she was in just as much of a miserable state. It was the time where they actually needed to be each other's pillars of support and battle it out together. Well see if in Dhruv's case Manik actually looks beyond Dhruv's harsh words and he puts aside his hurt and pain and goes after Dhruv in the need of protecting him... that's similar to what we had wanted him to do with Nandini. Except he couldn't do that for her. But I guess we can also say that his pain at time was much more than what he'll experience now. Because he only actually has a true sense of hope and expectations from Nandini. I think from the inside he knows too that whilst he's been with his Fab 5 family for the whole of his life, the actual and only person to understand him and make him realise the importance of relations and family is in fact his Nandu. Okay that just stuffed up because I started off by saying something and then started explaining the other side of the coin myself lol Sorry for the gibberish language ... let me know though if you didn't get anything.

Okay now I shall end my post on a happy note. The whole Manan scene yesterday where she first comes running and then she catches him red-handed and then he spills the beans of his frustration about panditji and she knows their victory is near and the finale happened with the much wanted and needed hug haha

Dude she was absolutely adorable yesterday and omg yes I just can'gt get her face out of my mind when she said "wooow" hahah As I said in another post I think that yesterday was just as equivalently joyful as her as if he had just confessed his love to her. And in a way he did because care and worry are all the sub-emotions of love. That hug was simply beautiful especially how she first just dives into his arms, least caring how he will react or what he will say. But she also knew that he wanted the hug just as much as her but wouldn't make the move. It was her bit of fulfilling his wish before he headed off to WH. And then the cherry on the cake was when he gave up the struggle and pushed his mind away and wrapped his arms around her. That feeling of calm and relief was so obvious in his face that he was glad he saw her and he's glad that she hasn't and will never give up on him. Pure bliss.

Btw did you watch the merger episode??

Twinkle :)

Originally posted by: twinkle10

I'm here I'm here! Okies so I shall start with a little bit of Dhruv and Cabir's support towards Manik. I swear I can't thank Cabira enough for the words of relief he provided my Manik with. My manik... always so worried, so selflessly caring for other. Always putting others above himself and here he is again, sacrificing a little bit of himself to check up on the brother, the friend who he's been protecting all his life. They shared such a beautfiul bond... and I was always so confident that Dhruv will understand my Manik and support him in all his hard times. But instead it broke my heart to see that my Manik may just have to put up with the the frustration that was actually someone else's doing. Aliya. She's the culprit here. She ruined what was the definition of true and pure friendship. And honestly as much as Dhruv may love her, I feel he deserves someone much more understanding and supporting than her.

Dude the absolute cuteness of Nandini and squeals and overflowing excitement is still echoing in my ears. She seemed to have won the world yesterday. For her, it was as if her Manik had just indirectly confessed his love to her. I have to say hats of to Niti yesterday for such superb acting. She really did a wonderful job. And honestly, I feel Manan are at this stage in their relationship now when it's not necessary to say I love you to each other. Whilst obviously we can't wait for their confession. But the little gestures they enact towards each other is enough to ensure their love for each other.

I especially loved how you described him to be her fire and her to be the water and how yet they are so perfect for each other. Man that paragraph was like the epitome of perfection. Nothing eeds to be said more :)

That hug was indeed beautiful. It was as if he wanted to infuse every inch of her scent within him since he wouldn't be able to see her for the coming few hours. Such purity, such intensity is rather unique and often unseen.

Hahah man panditji just doesn't seem to realise what he's in for. And honestly I don't know either whether I should appreciate his efforts in polishing Nandini to become the music sensation we want her to be or whether I should be disappointed at his rather creepy and unhealthy intentions. Exactly! My manik doesn't need to be a part of this concert just to protect her from him. He's her shadow... he's bound to follow her even when the sun sets and the moon starts to shine. However, I am really really keeping fingers crossed that it is my Manan who perform at this fusion concert. And knowing Nandu, she won't be up for performing with anyone other than him because that night is supposed to mark the end of their long exile of separation.

I think I'm going to miss writing a response for them tonight as the Fab 5 will be preforming at WH. Nevertheless, we can let the discussions continue :)

Talk to you soon love!

Twinkie <3