It's break time! -the heart vs the mind (Day 3)

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Posted: 10 years ago
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So guys here I am with day 3 of the analysis saga. Most of you are probably all sick of the spam and repetitive ideology about the mind vs the heart that I'm using as the crux to evaluate and justify the actions of manik and nandini. So first of all sorry if I'm killing you with my absolutely boring and lenthy bragging but the buzz of thoughts in my head that starts after every episode finishes just doesn't seem to stop until I express my thought process in this forum.
Now getting onto today's episode... can we all just take a deep breath and cherish the last 9 minutes and 1 second of the episode that was filled with heart-wrenching, soul-touching and simply awe-worthy manan scene. Sometimes I do wonder if such realistic depiction of a love story has even been showcased on indian television before. We've had some splendid onscreen jodis, no doubt. But this jodi just has an unknown and indescribable x-factor that makes me want to praise and applaud louder with each episode.

As for all of us manan fans, I think most of you will agree that today's episode was an absolute treat to watch. Whilst the story may be moving at a rather prolonged and unhurried speed, Manik's and Nandini's relationship seems to have picked up speed. The most eagerly awaited "break" weapon was used by Nandini today and there's no denying she demanded for it at the right time. Perhaps if she would have demanded for a break earlier, Manik's anger would have over-pover-powered his ability to communicate with her at an emotional level. But as he had already experienced many instances throughout the day where his heart's emotions had clouded the thoughts that his mind wanted to impose, all that he said to her in today's episode during their break sequence wept out naturally from his heart. I felt to some extent manik had been longing for that break too because her tears, her touch, her words and her eyes had continued to weaken him bit by bit. They were the reason his mask was starting to fade away fragment by fragment.
Undoubtedly the heart was the winner once again today. The mind played no role. When he was asked by cabir to go talk to nyonika, he simply got up and left the room. At that stage, yes the heart didn't technically win, but he didn't give in to his mind either. He simply ignored every emotion, every thought process that were constantly in tussle with each other.
After quite some time, today we saw manik willingly touch nandini. When he wiped her tears from her face, it was almost like he was wiping away the tears of pain his heart was weeping because she was crying. When he tucked the lock of hair behind her ear, he was removing all that which was hindering him from gazing into her eyes. He wanted to relive and just peacefully cherish the essence of being able to just adore the eyeful face that he hadn't been able to hold throughout the day. When he wrapped his long fingers around her shoulders and held her in place, making no other movement, he fought the urge to pull her so close into his bear hugs and hide her from this world that took advantage of her innocence. But at some point, the pain was bound to return. He eventually pushed her away as if she never had any presence in his life. But did we all notice, his face stayed unturned. He knew this pain of hatred for her was still bearable, but he was afraid that the pain of seeing her leave would be un-endurable. So he kept his face hidden. He knew his current anger could be controlled, but this separation would be the cause of his self-destruction. So he kept his eyes away from her sight. For a second, it seemed It was going to be a tie between the mind and the heart. But his actions, changed my decision...He let her go today but hardly. As her footsteps increased the distance between them, his mind stopped thinking and heart started thumping. As the fear grew of losing her, the restleness of his soul grew too.
As for Nandini, this journey that she thinks seems to be ending for the both of them, is infact a refeshing, enlightening and a new start. She might have not realised but today she didn't show any hesitance in hugging Manik. The girl who once used to think before her each and every action, seems to be listening to her heart and heart only these days. She isn't scared of his anger , or his frustration or the fire that stays burning inside him. She just wants him... every minute inch of him to herself. Not long to go, I feel are those days when Nandini Moorthy will take upon the challenge, the responsibility and the fight to remove this weed that has quite ruthlessly implanted itself in the soils of Manik's heart.

Now it will be interesting to see what twist will tomorrow's episode bring with itself. It's clear as crystal that Manik went to Nyonika on his heart's will, but the question remains, what did she ask in return to oblige him with this favour in order to allow his heartbeat to remain in this college.

Don't feel afraid to share your views on what you think will happen next. It'll be interesting to have a read of all of your perceptions of this track.

Stay smiling <3 :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Firstly awesome analysis! I keep following ur posts n they are quite beneficial to people like me who can't understand the symbolism nor the beauty of screenplay.. Thanks fir taking time to write..
Pls do use the same thread topic to motive the progress..
Thanks once again..
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Posted: 10 years ago
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sunnyyy here..reserved

Okies so i watched the epi and here i am.
Damn..today's Manan's break scene was damn utter painful perfection..and they play my current sad song...I love this song on Manan

Chadariya jheeni re jheeni
Chadariya jheeni re jheeni
Aankhein bheeni ye bheeni ye bheeni
Yaadein jheeni re jheeni re jheen


this scene is one I will probably rewatch alot because like i said...i love them more when they are separated but still so desperately in love with each other.
So let us talk about the mind and heart..let me tell you something...the heart doesn't give a damn the mind thinks and vice versa but the battered heart still wins over the intellectual mind. And since Manik's heart is always my favourite topic of discussion..i shall talk about him.

Today the internal mind and heart wasn't as visible..today the mind seemed to know that the heart will take what needs: Nandini. His heart damn rejoiced when Nandu asked for a 'break'..his heart could find some relief in the person he needs. Even today, after Nandini has made 'mistakes that cannot be forgiven and such' ..his heart still opens up to her like he does with noxone else..He begins to talk about Nyo,, the woman that stands for everything wrong in his life and he wants to share more with her..and the damn mind interprets saying "no no Manik, you can't".
I love how he says he can't forgive her and she accepts..but when she cries the tears he has caused her...his heart allows him to wipe the very tears she is shedding because of him, he wipes them away tenderly and Nandini lets him. But when Nandu wants to wipe away his heart has suffered by her one moment of err, she isn't allowed to and she accepts that. That somewhat pissed me off...why isn't nandini allowed to heal the hurt she has caused ? If situations were reversed...Nandini would be mad..anger but she wouldn't treat him as he has treated her since the court issue. So why is Nandini walking away so easily ? WHY ? is her heart accepting defeat already ? her heart will be content with just memories ?

His actions speak for so much..as actions always speak louder than words. He is still so drawn to her, he welcomes her back hug..closes his eyes because the relief his deprived heart finally has. The touch of the girl that is essentially what makes his heart beat That when his mind catches up, he pushes her a little..with no conviction in my opinion. like you said, he was tempted to pull her into one his bear hugs so everything could right itself in his life.
And he watches her walk away till the very last second..like his heart is trying to hold onto her so desperately.

Manik goes to Nyo to stop Nandini from leaving and in return, Nyo asks him to apologize to Pandit it might be.

- Reya aka Sunny <3
Edited by maankigeet4ever - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sucker4Luvstory

Firstly awesome analysis! I keep following ur posts n they are quite beneficial to people like me who can't understand the symbolism nor the beauty of screenplay.. Thanks fir taking time to write..

Pls do use the same thread topic to motive the progress..
Thanks once again..

awww that's so sweet of you! Thankyou for all your praise and appreciation and I shall try my best to live upto your expectation in future posts too!:)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Your posts are something I've come to look forward to after I watch the episodes. The tug of war between the heart and the mind.
It's strange how Manik is trying hard to do what his mind wants when clearly Nandini is now following her heart. How the roles have changed. manik used to always follow his heart when it came to Nandini and it was she who always listened to her mind.

I love when there's angst in a track it brings about so many emotions. I feel that although Manik stopped Nandini he will say that he can't still forgive her. But Nandini will take that as a ray of hope to try and fight for them again. Make Manik take a leap of faith with her again. It will take time but he needs time to heal.

I love that they took their much needed breaks. Both of them neded it.

About manik having to give something to keep her in college well I feel he'll say that Nyonika owes him because he let her win after playing with Nandini.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: maankigeet4ever

sunnyyy here..reserved


Okies so i watched the epi and here i am.
Damn..today's Manan's break scene was damn utter painful perfection..and they play my current sad song...I love this song on Manan

Chadariya jheeni re jheeni
Chadariya jheeni re jheeni
Aankhein bheeni ye bheeni ye bheeni
Yaadein jheeni re jheeni re jheen


this scene is one I will probably rewatch alot because like i said...i love them more when they are separated but still so desperately in love with each other.
So let us talk about the mind and heart..let me tell you something...the heart doesn't give a damn the mind thinks and vice versa but the battered heart still wins over the intellectual mind. And since Manik's heart is always my favourite topic of discussion..i shall talk about him.

Today the internal mind and heart wasn't as visible..today the mind seemed to know that the heart will take what needs: Nandini. His heart damn rejoiced when Nandu asked for a 'break'..his heart could find some relief in the person he needs. Even today, after Nandini has made 'mistakes that cannot be forgiven and such' ..his heart still opens up to her like he does with noxone else..He begins to talk about Nyo,, the woman that stands for everything wrong in his life and he wants to share more with her..and the damn mind interprets saying "no no Manik, you can't".
I love how he says he can't forgive her and she accepts..but when she cries the tears he has caused her...his heart allows him to wipe the very tears she is shedding because of him, he wipes them away tenderly and Nandini lets him. But when Nandu wants to wipe away his heart has suffered by her one moment of err, she isn't allowed to and she accepts that. That somewhat pissed me off...why isn't nandini allowed to heal the hurt she has caused ? If situations were reversed...Nandini would be mad..anger but she wouldn't treat him as he has treated her since the court issue. So why is Nandini walking away so easily ? WHY ? is her heart accepting defeat already ? her heart will be content with just memories ?

His actions speak for so much..as actions always speak louder than words. He is still so drawn to her, he welcomes her back hug..closes his eyes because the relief his deprived heart finally has. The touch of the girl that is essentially what makes his heart beat That when his mind catches up, he pushes her a little..with no conviction in my opinion. like you said, he was tempted to pull her into one his bear hugs so everything could right itself in his life.
And he watches her walk away till the very last second..like his heart is trying to hold onto her so desperately.

Manik goes to Nyo to stop Nandini from leaving and in return, Nyo asks him to apologize to Pandit it might be.

- Reya aka Sunny <3

Hello there you talented person! Loved every word, every line, every phrase of your response.
Okay you know what, that song.. is so so so beautiful. After a very long time, I've found a song that I'm hooked to so badly. And the reason is them... no doubt! It makes me feel all funny inside where I start feeling the emotions that the two of them are going. Such intense passion and fight to claim each other, yet stay away. And you're right we may have just found that new favorite scene of ours ;) hahah Seriously, when I was watching the episode last night... and there were just so many instances I thought about you coz I was like yup she'll love this scene, and this one, and this one etc. I've got to say the CV's do a wonderful job and matching the lyrics of songs to the whole scene's atmosphere... and well what can we say about manan; the way they feel each lyric and perform onscreen simply makes it look like this song was initially and primarily written for them. I loved her back hug in particular and that restlessness he goes through just a few seconds before the episode ended when she's already left from the terrace. His performance there was simply astounding.

And I agree, it hurt me for him to see Nandini walk away like this last night. why? just because he was letting her go? It is understandable that she's helpless in front of nyonika's decision but I mean I would've loved to see her fighting with him for them to get back together, till she didn't drive away. I was silently praying that she would ask him something like "Manik, you've always been there for me. No matter were they good or bad times, but you've always stood by me as my pillar of strength and for that I'll always be thankful. Can you do me a last favour today? Can you come to drop me off to my cab so I'm able to spend my last few moments with you." I feel even something like that would've been like an indirect challenge from her to him to see whether he had the internal strength in himself drop her off and see her go. But nevertheless, her lurking and tears didn't go to a waste at least... he has stopped her and my Cabir won his bet too! haha :P

Yeh that's what i thought... the apology is the only favour that makes sense. Or I mean it can be a favour-less deal and he can simply say to her that she owes him one ... but I feel that's Manik's trump-card and he'll probably use it at a more suitable time ;) lol

Good job partner!

Your twinkie <3
Edited by twinkle10 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: NushIsh

Your posts are something I've come to look forward to after I watch the episodes. The tug of war between the heart and the mind.

It's strange how Manik is trying hard to do what his mind wants when clearly Nandini is now following her heart. How the roles have changed. manik used to always follow his heart when it came to Nandini and it was she who always listened to her mind.

I love when there's angst in a track it brings about so many emotions. I feel that although Manik stopped Nandini he will say that he can't still forgive her. But Nandini will take that as a ray of hope to try and fight for them again. Make Manik take a leap of faith with her again. It will take time but he needs time to heal.

I love that they took their much needed breaks. Both of them neded it.

About manik having to give something to keep her in college well I feel he'll say that Nyonika owes him because he let her win after playing with Nandini.

Awww... okay first and foremost, Thankyou so much for the praises. They all mean so much to me :)
And you're absolutely correct with the role reversal... she had always been a logical thinker, and he had always been that emotional fool but this time their pain within is bringing out the best in them and I guess this is a good learning period for Nandini where she will finally realise that there is no room for the mind when it comes to love.

Yeh that's taken I guess... there's still a lot of realisation still to come for the both of them and foremost they are yet still to understand the actual depth of their love for each other. So it will take time, but yep this was the much needed clue that was needed for Nandini, to just awaken that ray of confidence that no he still loves her and she's the one for him.

That's what I just told Reya... I'm tossing between an apology to pandit or whether he will say to her that she owes him one/ But secretly I hope he uses that one-liner when Nyonika has planned her final and most destructive step to separate them two. Because that way it'll mark the end of her interference in their lives.


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Great analysis again 😊
The terrace scene was very poignant. Manik, despite everything, is all heart. And that is the crux of the situation. One of the most tender and heartfelt relationships, of a mother & son, is an atrocity for Manik. His words to Nandini, in the courtroom were ..speak your heart ...and that let him down again. He has been left shattered since then. Even though his mind tells him that its the betrayal of trust, that cannot be forgiven, his heart is constantly tugging him do so. And he will ...he needs to ,in order to heal himself...to move forward again. 😊
Precap : Nyonika owes him one so he will make sure to cash that in...but Pandit could make it seem that he made it happen 😕
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Originally posted by: sonia_1

Great analysis again 😊

The terrace scene was very poignant. Manik, despite everything, is all heart. And that is the crux of the situation. One of the most tender and heartfelt relationships, of a mother & son, is an atrocity for Manik. His words to Nandini, in the courtroom were ..speak your heart ...and that let him down again. He has been left shattered since then. Even though his mind tells him that its the betrayal of trust, that cannot be forgiven, his heart is constantly tugging him do so. And he will ...he needs to ,in order to heal himself...to move forward again. 😊
Precap : Nyonika owes him one so he will make sure to cash that in...but Pandit could make it seem that he made it happen 😕

Thankyou thankyou! Definitely... that was such a beautiful scene though how he poured his heart out so naturally to her... that talk about his and Nyonika's relationship, it was the biggest proof of his trust in Nandini. The trust that still allows him to speak to her all that is buried in the darkness inside him. Kudos for your response there :)
True true... I'm still in utter confusion that how the hell does he know Nandini's grandma now?? I swear he better not be using that as an excuse to come closer to her... that thought is just so freaky! 😕
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Originally posted by: twinkle10

Hello there you talented person! Loved every word, every line, every phrase of your response.
Okay you know what, that song.. is so so so beautiful. After a very long time, I've found a song that I'm hooked to so badly. And the reason is them... no doubt! It makes me feel all funny inside where I start feeling the emotions that the two of them are going. Such intense passion and fight to claim each other, yet stay away. And you're right we may have just found that new favorite scene of ours ;) hahah Seriously, when I was watching the episode last night... and there were just so many instances I thought about you coz I was like yup she'll love this scene, and this one, and this one etc. I've got to say the CV's do a wonderful job and matching the lyrics of songs to the whole scene's atmosphere... and well what can we say about manan; the way they feel each lyric and perform onscreen simply makes it look like this song was initially and primarily written for them. I loved her back hug in particular and that restlessness he goes through just a few seconds before the episode ended when she's already left from the terrace. His performance there was simply astounding.

And I agree, it hurt me for him to see Nandini walk away like this last night. why? just because he was letting her go? It is understandable that she's helpless in front of nyonika's decision but I mean I would've loved to see her fighting with him for them to get back together, till she didn't drive away. I was silently praying that she would ask him something like "Manik, you've always been there for me. No matter were they good or bad times, but you've always stood by me as my pillar of strength and for that I'll always be thankful. Can you do me a last favour today? Can you come to drop me off to my cab so I'm able to spend my last few moments with you." I feel even something like that would've been like an indirect challenge from her to him to see whether he had the internal strength in himself drop her off and see her go. But nevertheless, her lurking and tears didn't go to a waste at least... he has stopped her and my Cabir won his bet too! haha :P

Yeh that's what i thought... the apology is the only favour that makes sense. Or I mean it can be a favour-less deal and he can simply say to her that she owes him one ... but I feel that's Manik's trump-card and he'll probably use it at a more suitable time ;) lol

Good job partner!

Your twinkie <3

Sheesh dude..we are such sadist partners. Even when i was watching the episode, i was thinking how Twinkie would like this scene cause it has the 'musicana feels' for us.
The song is so beautiful in itself with it's heartfelt lyrics, I feel it's perfect for Manan. When they first played it during their supposed Valentine day...I was damn ! love love love this song and Manan make the song even more powerful with their emotions.

So when are you applying to the KY2 team as their dailogue writer ? I am telling you girl. Love the dialogues you write for Nandini Murthy.
To be honest, very disappointed to see a defeated Nandini. we have been saying over and over again that she needs to buck up and find her lost fighting sprit but sadly nope,she is walking away from him because it seems to her that this is what he wants but has she understood him so little in their time together. Manik has sought her out for comfort again and again even when love didn't exist for them ( the first hug after Manik found out about Cabir) It baffles me a little when they both think they can live without each other. Let me tell you. THEY CANNOT. They are the reason for each other's existence and without the other, they will just become a shell of a person ( sounds weird ?)

Manik going to Nyo despite Nandini not putting a fight and accepting that it's over just doesn't work for me. I mean, I truly understand that he needs her in his life..his heart has won out but Nandini walking away so easily makes me..ummm..what's the word ? disappointed maybe ? she should need him as much as he needs her. She should realize that she walking away will give them much more misery. Today, through their break, they both found much needed relief in each other's arms.

And i adore Cabir but we didn't talk about him so i add something from another post i did: he is a Manan shipper..he is a sensible guy who has endured more than guys at his age do..and he is one my favs..he has fallen in love..he has gotten hurt in love and he doesn't want Manan to go through the same thing. Honestly a gem of a friend. straight forward but full of love and concern for his friends.

oh yeah..and i liked the Manik/Alya closure scene...thou i don't like Alya and disagreed with her when she said that Nandini scarred him. Girl, get it straight. My Nandu healed him in so many ways..caused him to shed the facade that was Monster Maink. Sheesh, like i said i don't like Alya.

Okay now i am done..lol

-Reya aka Your Sunny <3

p.s sorry this got way to long...i think i ranted..oops

p.s.s i also vote for a ongoing 'the mind vs. heart' thread if you keep the same theme running. just an idea :)

Edited by maankigeet4ever - 10 years ago

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