Manik - The One and Only!!! Feb 19, 2015

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Feb 19, 2015

Hello Hello Everyone. I am Kashish, have been a diehard fan of the Forum and have seen and shared a lot of shows here. Have been watching this show silently for many months now, and have seen enough likes and dislikes for Manik, or shall I say Manik Bashing.

So all those who wish to bash Manik, please refrain reading this post further. You are welcome to leave NOW!!!!!!! But if you want to see a little bit from his point of view, if you wish to understand a little bit where he Stands in his feelings, emotions, sense of betrayal, than open your hearts and mind and lets read further. Thank you!!!!

Well, let's just start who is Manik. A boy/turning into a man who has seen a lot in his life. But right now, I am not going there, for that I promise I will come up with a detailed post with some of my best buddies in the forum.

Let's start with today's epi!!! Feb 19, 2015

She is looking for the earring, Still ... And he has already found it. Isn't it amazing. That's the very first place I felt, he is still hanging on to his love and waiting for that one moment when Nandani will understand his point. Isn't that what Nandani did to him when he left her for Dhruv. She hung on to her anger for sooo long, even after multiple apologies and everything from Manik, she still didn't forgive him. Why? Because later she said, "you said sorry Manik for hurting me, but not once did you apologize for leaving me." So if Nandani has a right to stay angry with him and then leave him in the hospital saying "we can't be together," than Manik also has a right to be angry on her for not trusting him. And I am not saying she shoukd have lied in the magistrate office, all I am saying is, she should have used her words wisely. Instead of being dumb and saying, "I am not sure, I don't know," she could have said, "he saved my life, that's all that matter to me, and I trust him on everything." Was that too difficult to say?????

For Manik love was always trust, and she broke it so easily by her stupidity. And then he came on valentine's day and gave her full chance to explain, but once again she was dumb and all she said was "I was confused, I was confused, I was confused, ..." he waited for her to say it then, he gave her the benefit of doubt, but she messed up BIG TIME.

And then when he asks her to leave, she walked away ... SERIOUSLY!!!! How can you walk away like that. Atleast she could have tried a few times confidently than just repeating I was confused.

Anyways, coming back to today's epi. He found the earring, while she was just wasting time, and then he brought it to her and asked her do you want it? And she started her lecture again. I read a few people saying on the forum, what did he mean by that, we want her to punch him, etc etc. hello people, what is so difficult to understand, he is still hanging on to his love. He is still giving her that one chance to explain and understand his hurt and talk to him about it. Instead of lecturing him over what he did to that guy in the auditorium. I mean, how about, for once she can be his woman, his love, his charm, his passion, than being his MOTHER or his SISTER or his so called FRIEND. Why now his LOVE for once.

And then she goes and say CHAHIYAY!!!! With a bland face and her hand held in front. WHAT??? WHAT???? Is this how you pacify someone you apparently love. Couldn't you have just touched his hand, or said, "not only earring, I want you back as well ..." couldn't she have tried harder. He was waiting for it. He waited for her to show some passion, which she seriously lacks, and then with that bland look on her face, he lost it again. He looked at her again, surprised and disgusted that this is how much you care Nandani that you don't have anything better to say and that's when he started fighting with his own feelings. And as much as I know Manik, when he fights with his own feelings, that's when he hurts himself the most.

He was agitated and mad at himself for giving her this chance again, for finding her earring, for letting her get into his head again, and so he threw the earring away. But before that he touched her, he felt her, just to remind himself and her what they had shared and what she is making him throw away because of her stupidity. THANKYOU for that Nandani.

And then he said exactly what he hated Nandani saying the other day ... "I know I have hurt you ... but..." In the same dumb expression. So that's what this scene was all about. He told he very clearly, I want you to come to me with a passion, a surety, and a belief that you want me in you life, else there is no point.

He goes to his friends, and tries to play the cool dude again, but this time around he has changed for good. He will never be the same again. His love for nandini has touched him deep down in is heart, far deep in his soul and he cannot let her go. Not now, not ever. He started making fun of the boy and his love emotions in the auditorium, and I saw a disbelief in his eyes. As if his heart was questioning his mind, "is that really what you mean Manik? Is love really nothing?" and when he felt his mind was losing the battle from his heart he ignored the discussion and asked for a group hug.

He knew it right there and then, he will never win from his heart.

He knew it right there and then, he will never win from his love for nandini.

He knew it right there and then, he can never let Nandani go.

But for that, Nandani has to make a move to patch up between them. And he deserves that move. He has been making all the right moves for sooo long now. Ever since he left her for Dhruv in episode 68. Its high time nandini makes a move, and that too a convincing one.

And then she gets expelled. He looks at her, but couldn't react, he needed time to think how to clear up this mess. He can't and will not talk to Nyonika for reasons his own, which I respect and understand. So he took her to the announcement, and told her, you stand for the right, than stand for it today and tell everyone Nyonika expelled you. SO WHATS WRONG IN THAT? Well, he showed her a path to save her seat in SPACE. But what can we expect from Nandu. dumb as always. Jahan bolna chahiyay wahan nahi bolna, aur jahan nahi bolna chahiyay tha wahan nonsense shuru.

Now what was he supposed to do. He couldn't show his vulnerable side again. He is back in his shell of being BAD, so he will play this game his way. No matter how bad he appears, he will let everyone know what Nyonika did, so someone could stand for her, or convince her to stand for herself. Isn't that proof enough that he loves her sooo bad that he can't let her go at any cost. He did what he could do? And he threw the ball in her court.

And the end, locked in the room again, with her. And just then he realized this is a bad idea; why?

Because his love for her would not let him see her cry like this,

Because his love for her would not let him stay away from her,

Because his love for her is way beyond anything ... That's when he decided, no matter how hurt he might get, he will break that glass.

May be the noise of that shattering glass would silence the cries of his heart;

May be the pain of that bleeding hand would over shadow the pain of his bleeding heart;

That's Manik. That's his love. That's his passion. That's his junoon for Nandani. And that's his promise to Nandani that he will always protect her, no matter what. Even if she doesn't love him enough to match his passion, he would still stand by his love. And that's why they always played this song for him

Ishq wala love

Agar yeh usko bhi hua hai phir bhi mujh ko zyada hua

Ishq wala love!!!

That's all I have to say today.

My posts for Manik will continue. I shall stand by him no matter what ... unless he gives me a very very good reason to not do that.

All the best!!

Kashish

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Posted: 10 years ago
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This is a fabulous post and I completely agree with you.

Nandini has lost the moral high ground after her Not Sure !! so to start with lectures again is just not
going to cut it...age comes to her rescue when she falters. She again started today with ...you are losing yourself nonsense but this divine insight was not present when she was Not Sure / I don't !!! I have mentioned earlier , Nandini still doesn't understand the magnitude of her mistake with regard to Manik. She believes it would take few tears and words for his anger to dissipate. But it's the hurt , disappointment and betrayal that she still seems unaware of. Manik's feelings for her are at another level altogether than hers for him.
He needs time to heal before they can have a meaningful relationship.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonia_1

This is a fabulous post and I completely agree with you.

Nandini has lost the moral high ground after her Not Sure !! so to start with lectures again is just not
going to cut it...age comes to her rescue when she falters. She again started today with ...you are losing yourself nonsense but this divine insight was not present when she was Not Sure / I don't !!! I have mentioned earlier , Nandini still doesn't understand the magnitude of her mistake with regard to Manik. She believes it would take few tears and words for his anger to dissipate. But it's the hurt , disappointment and betrayal that she still seems unaware of. Manik's feelings for her are at another level altogether than hers for him.
He needs time to heal before they can have a meaningful relationship.



absolutely Sonia, she is in denial of what she has done to Manik. She doesnt understand what kind of betrayal she has made him go through. and even than manik is ready to give her a chance, but she is like so inconsiderate. As you rightly said, a few tears and unnecessary crying wont do any good any more. bring some substance woman.

K
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This is exactly wat I was feeling...that why can't nandini be more passionate. ..she knows he is hell angry..she knows it was her fault..but I guess the realisation is yet to come wat damage she has done and why has this happened. .
she needs to sit down and think over it. I mean seriously..The realisation that she has broken the trust aspect and it can't be easily undone is yet to come..that's why she is not with her whole heart and soul trying to convince him...and that is making manik more and more angry..

Thanks for post.
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Originally posted by: gauriangel

This is exactly wat I was feeling...that why can't nandini be more passionate. ..she knows he is hell angry..she knows it was her fault..but I guess the realisation is yet to come wat damage she has done and why has this happened. .

she needs to sit down and think over it. I mean seriously..The realisation that she has broken the trust aspect and it can't be easily undone is yet to come..that's why she is not with her whole heart and soul trying to convince him...and that is making manik more and more angry..

Thanks for post.


and to my disbelief, when manik held her hand and took her to the announcement room, all she could say was, "manik i knew you will not let me go" ... WAIT WHAT????? SERIOUSLY????? how can she be sooo naive?????? when will she understand hos hurt manik is by her not trusting him.
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You GO Girl.
You go girl not coz you spoke what I wanted to write, but you wrote what made sense.
Like complete 'logical' sense.

For Manik Da Malhotra, love was never about right-wrong, about truth and lie.
Nope.
Coz his LOVE flows from where it sprouts.
Heart.
He Loved from his heart.
He listens to his heart.
And he Trust from his heart...

For Nandini-I-am-so- CON-fuse-D...
Love is all about right and wrong.
Correct and Incorrect.
Truth and lie.
Head.

When these two fuse...it's always dynamite moment.
Why?
Coz they heart takes you one way, the head the other way.

Now, tying it to the current scenario and making it relevant, if we were in 2+2= 4 situation, Nandini had it all figured out. And absolute right.
BUT
It was a grey area we had to step into.
The color grey, which was here to protect the white pristine purity of their love and cover the ugly Black situation these two souls had landed into.

He asked her to listen to her heart.
BUT
Instead she went the Nandini-stubborn-murthy-way and decided to play sachai-ki-devi.
With no facts, of-course, but her classic CON-fuse-ion.
Result?
She blew it up. and How!!!
That's NOT all.

Frozen-in-his-heart Manik gave her an olive branch by reaching out on the Valentine day to see trust-love light up in her eyes.
Guess what?
All we saw was a CON-fuse-D Nandini, fumbling about.."I have messed up...' et al.
Where was the passion for DA-man who you believe loves you so much that you thought he would KILL for you, albeit even for a moment?
All she needed to say to that very broken soul at that moment when he showed the door to her was,
"Manik Malhotra, you can hate me for ALL I care, But I am NOT giving up on you. Hating me is your choice, your decision. Fine. But I shall make the choice of continue to love you..."
She should walked away with dignity and head held high and a heart full of love.

But No...
She is playing a doormat right now. Playing cry-cry baby and really not making any sense.
The CV's have big time assassinated her character, but as of now, she is the lost soul, needing help and sense.
Like you said, the guy playing Manik is showing every nuance of his pain-anger-hurt-angst, despair beautifully.
on the other hand, Nandu-my-sweet-gal is busy playing teacher-teacher-lecture-lecture in between moments of oh-and-ah-confusion.
Someone needs to give these two some quiet time...in two very different corners of college.

P.S. if the CV's bandage those beautiful hands one more time, I am coming with full on andolan. Like really? You jealous jealous CV's. Can't you leave us alone. Lusting. For those beautiful hand...

peace out
~N~


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Kashish!
I am a stalker of the forum too and some posts are amazing! While others I disagree with..Due to scarcity of time, I don't really comment.
Our mutual friend hooked me to the show and to Manik and Nandini.


Main kya kahun?I liked your post..but I am afraid we might be on slightly different roads..they go the same way, though ;)

I love both of them, and together, they kind of work perfect. Separate: he goes out of control or in self-destructive modes; and she becomes a soggy tissue paper.
I used to love nandini's character, the simplicity and frankness that Manik adored; that made him want to protect her and be a nice person: for her. Because he knew it would make her happy.
I loved it all.
But then, we saw character reversals: where Manik was once called selfish (for not giving her a choice to walk away or work on the Dhruv thing together), he only cared about her and Fab5, but mostly her.
Anything to make her happy.

And we saw Nandini, who stayed on this moral high ground, firm in her knowledge that she is right.
Not realizing that 'Right' can be hurtful, that right breaks relationships.
That both friendships and romantic relations are based on sacrifice, compromises, and understanding.
There are few times when she has acknowledged his help, his support but those few times are washed away by the times she has not..she's been callous too.
Just like he has been (unintentionally)
He has tried to give her everything he thought she wanted.
Problem is: she does not know what she wants.

Manik has worked in extremes, Nandini is mostly level headed.
Ever since I saw him in the drunk scene, I saw the child who wanted love, who wanted attention but first, got the 'this is not good for class and image' and now is getting 'this is not good because it is false'.
I feel so strongly that he needs someone to hold him. Just hold him:
ever since that first hug, all he wants when he's shocked, upset or sad is to be held by nandini- no questions asked.
His need for that is so much that sometimes, he deliberately asks for breaks: breaks from sensibility, breaks from all that.

I still think if Nandini is at all at fault it would be to make her doubts public, since Manik's life would be at stake.
I refuse to believe she does not trust him. She trusts that he will not hurt her, and if he does, he'll hurt himself more anyway.
BUT- she is the one person who can calm him down; and I have mentioned this before: she was unconscious, and Manik is very capable of beating the hell out of anyone who hurts Nandini. Agar in his attempts to reach Nandini to save her even had led to Soha's death: it would be of no big matter, as it was self-and nandu's defence.
And in fits of temper, Manik can do anything for Nandini.

But that I am not sure, I don't know and involvement are strong phrases: he was not involved in her death: involved makes it sound cold-blooded to me.
And I don't know implied to Manik that as usual, Nandini doesn't have faith in him: that he is a good person..and for someone who did so much to quite literally please her, that is painful.
The one person you admire, with all her faults, with all her issues, and love her, and respect her: to hear her say that is for her to ignore all that love. To disregard all that he's done to save her and win her back.

I agree with u when u say he really needs to see her passion. Either she should walk away for sometime and give the baby some space to cool down; or sit him down and pin his hands and get really close to him and say: I am not leaving you. Ever. I will shine for you as you shine for me. I You are always in my prayers. I trust you. And this: I love you.

All he needs is TLC, definitely not explanations..because this isn't about explanations anymore.. the first step to heal a hurt child or person is to calm them down, by tending to their wounds...not by giving preventive measures and diagnoses.


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Originally posted by: Nupur9

You GO Girl.

You go girl not coz you spoke what I wanted to write, but you wrote what made sense.
Like complete 'logical' sense.

For Manik Da Malhotra, love was never about right-wrong, about truth and lie.
Nope.
Coz his LOVE flows from where it sprouts.
Heart.
He Loved from his heart.
He listens to his heart.
And he Trust from his heart...

For Nandini-I-am-so- CON-fuse-D...
Love is all about right and wrong.
Correct and Incorrect.
Truth and lie.
Head.

When these two fuse...it's always dynamite moment.
Why?
Coz they heart takes you one way, the head the other way.

Now, tying it to the current scenario and making it relevant, if we were in 2+2= 4 situation, Nandini had it all figured out. And absolute right.
BUT
It was a grey area we had to step into.
The color grey, which was here to protect the white pristine purity of their love and cover the ugly Black situation these two souls had landed into.

He asked her to listen to her heart.
BUT
Instead she went the Nandini-stubborn-murthy-way and decided to play sachai-ki-devi.
With no facts, of-course, but her classic CON-fuse-ion.
Result?
She blew it up. and How!!!
That's NOT all.

Frozen-in-his-heart Manik gave her an olive branch by reaching out on the Valentine day to see trust-love light up in her eyes.
Guess what?
All we saw was a CON-fuse-D Nandini, fumbling about.."I have messed up...' et al.
Where was the passion for DA-man who you believe loves you so much that you thought he would KILL for you, albeit even for a moment?
All she needed to say to that very broken soul at that moment when he showed the door to her was,
"Manik Malhotra, you can hate me for ALL I care, But I am NOT giving up on you. Hating me is your choice, your decision. Fine. But I shall make the choice of continue to love you..."
She should walked away with dignity and head held high and a heart full of love.

But No...
She is playing a doormat right now. Playing cry-cry baby and really not making any sense.
The CV's have big time assassinated her character, but as of now, she is the lost soul, needing help and sense.
Like you said, the guy playing Manik is showing every nuance of his pain-anger-hurt-angst, despair beautifully.
on the other hand, Nandu-my-sweet-gal is busy playing teacher-teacher-lecture-lecture in between moments of oh-and-ah-confusion.
Someone needs to give these two some quiet time...in two very different corners of college.

P.S. if the CV's bandage those beautiful hands one more time, I am coming with full on andolan. Like really? You jealous jealous CV's. Can't you leave us alone. Lusting. For those beautiful hand...

peace out
~N~



😆😆😆 U make me laugh and nod at the same time!
I agree with you..
I really wish Nandu would take time off and grow, into music..grow to do something outside of manik...True love is also action..And it's time to ACT girl! 😃

AND yes. God. poor doll's hand again..😭
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😆😆😆 U make me laugh and nod at the same time!
I agree with you..
I really wish Nandu would take time off and grow, into music..grow to do something outside of manik...True love is also action..And it's time to ACT girl! 😃

AND yes. God. poor doll's hand again..😭

Geet, You must be close to my heart.
I had this lets have connection moment with you right now.

Arnav-da-Hot-Va was my last love before Manik-DA-Malhotra hit me high low, gaaawd, just about everywhere with his intensity, passion and oh that beautiful jawline, eyes...and WAIT, those beautiful hands!
Before that, I have drooled on HC. His first show. Big time.
So you see, we share a pattern.
And our Men...
I must say, you got great choice...*tongue-in-cheek*



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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nupur9

You GO Girl.

You go girl not coz you spoke what I wanted to write, but you wrote what made sense.
Like complete 'logical' sense.

For Manik Da Malhotra, love was never about right-wrong, about truth and lie.
Nope.
Coz his LOVE flows from where it sprouts.
Heart.
He Loved from his heart.
He listens to his heart.
And he Trust from his heart...

For Nandini-I-am-so- CON-fuse-D...
Love is all about right and wrong.
Correct and Incorrect.
Truth and lie.
Head.

When these two fuse...it's always dynamite moment.
Why?
Coz they heart takes you one way, the head the other way.

Now, tying it to the current scenario and making it relevant, if we were in 2+2= 4 situation, Nandini had it all figured out. And absolute right.
BUT
It was a grey area we had to step into.
The color grey, which was here to protect the white pristine purity of their love and cover the ugly Black situation these two souls had landed into.

He asked her to listen to her heart.
BUT
Instead she went the Nandini-stubborn-murthy-way and decided to play sachai-ki-devi.
With no facts, of-course, but her classic CON-fuse-ion.
Result?
She blew it up. and How!!!
That's NOT all.

Frozen-in-his-heart Manik gave her an olive branch by reaching out on the Valentine day to see trust-love light up in her eyes.
Guess what?
All we saw was a CON-fuse-D Nandini, fumbling about.."I have messed up...' et al.
Where was the passion for DA-man who you believe loves you so much that you thought he would KILL for you, albeit even for a moment?
All she needed to say to that very broken soul at that moment when he showed the door to her was,
"Manik Malhotra, you can hate me for ALL I care, But I am NOT giving up on you. Hating me is your choice, your decision. Fine. But I shall make the choice of continue to love you..."
She should walked away with dignity and head held high and a heart full of love.

But No...
She is playing a doormat right now. Playing cry-cry baby and really not making any sense.
The CV's have big time assassinated her character, but as of now, she is the lost soul, needing help and sense.
Like you said, the guy playing Manik is showing every nuance of his pain-anger-hurt-angst, despair beautifully.
on the other hand, Nandu-my-sweet-gal is busy playing teacher-teacher-lecture-lecture in between moments of oh-and-ah-confusion.
Someone needs to give these two some quiet time...in two very different corners of college.

P.S. if the CV's bandage those beautiful hands one more time, I am coming with full on andolan. Like really? You jealous jealous CV's. Can't you leave us alone. Lusting. For those beautiful hand...

peace out
~N~



🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

N i Love you for this one. you crack me up like anything ... especially you P.S.s are always out of this world. i swear, they bandage those beautiful fingers again, and i will go on andolan with you. uff CVs his fingers have better passion than nandini 😲

loved your post N. to him its always about heart and to her brains and logic. when did love ev er look at logic. if you are too busy making love logical than there is something wrong in the emotions.

Loved you color grey metaphor. bang on. all he asked was listen to her heart and she ... what a waste.

have to rush, will come back with more.

Love, K

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