some serious concerns..

Why did the episode leave me with more worry than joy? 😕

It was adorable seeing Manik dancing with joy like that. Whatever that was holding him back, that obstacle was gone. Dhruv has moved on. Now, Manik is free to being open about his feelings for Nandini. For him the things have gone to a restart, back to where they left it off. Him dancing with Nandini, making her the sole witness to his complete and utter happiness..it was sweet in one way but urgh..by the time the episode ended, I did not like the proceedings one bit.

Yes, Manik Malhotra is back. The one who has control, who gets what he wants, the one we saw in the beginning of the show. Rude, arrogant, sarcastic leader of the Fab5 who has the world at his feet. The kind we all loved to hate, I know I did. The one in which I was invested in solely for his potential. Don't get me wrong, I didn't want him to turn into a saccharine sweet eyesore EVER. I still don't. But even back in those days, he at least considered Nandini as a human. Why is Manik forgetting this? I do not understand his crazy stubbornness at all. He wants to figure out why she can't forgive him, fine. Theek hai. And for that he kidnapped her, ye bhi theek hai. It's such a Manik thing to do. I am not against the kidnapping per se...he wants answers and she isn't giving them to him, she always runs away. So he made sure that this time she won't run away. It's not that. It's this line of his,

"It'll be so much fun proving you wrong."

Why did it seem like a challenge? Why did it seem like he was treating her there as an object to be accomplished rather than the woman he has feelings for? I know that when Manik obsesses he forgets everything else. And his obsession has always been Nandini. But he used to have certain respect for her. He never forced himself on her, never did he cross a line. Even at the last moment he used to gain control over himself. He only began to stop himself from gaining control was when he sensed that she wanted it too. I am talking about their scenes before and after the night spent in his room. If Manik can have enough sense to realize that this girl wants to be pulled in, can't he also realize that she wants some space? Why treat her like an object? Why be a monster with her like that? Why the complete restart like this Manik Malhotra? Why can't you understand what she's been wishing you to understand - that she's a human and she has every right to be considered, regardless of the situation. He still doesn't do that...

Maybe it's just me going overboard because exams are messing up with my head but no..this isn't the Manik I wanted to see here. I liked that Manik who might have shouted on Nandini in one second but apologized the next second because he knew that what he did was wrong.

(I am clearly too messed up)

So I read Genie's and Shelly's response here before writing my own. It is a rather confusing debate right now. 😆

Originally posted by: lostmymusic.

Why did the episode leave me with more worry than joy? 😕

It was adorable seeing Manik dancing with joy like that. Whatever that was holding him back, that obstacle was gone. Dhruv has moved on. Now, Manik is free to being open about his feelings for Nandini. For him the things have gone to a restart, back to where they left it off. Him dancing with Nandini, making her the sole witness to his complete and utter happiness..it was sweet in one way but urgh..by the time the episode ended, I did not like the proceedings one bit.

Yes, Manik Malhotra is back. The one who has control, who gets what he wants, the one we saw in the beginning of the show. Rude, arrogant, sarcastic leader of the Fab5 who has the world at his feet. The kind we all loved to hate, I know I did. The one in which I was invested in solely for his potential. Don't get me wrong, I didn't want him to turn into a saccharine sweet eyesore EVER. I still don't. But even back in those days, he at least considered Nandini as a human. Why is Manik forgetting this? I do not understand his crazy stubbornness at all. He wants to figure out why she can't forgive him, fine. Theek hai. And for that he kidnapped her, ye bhi theek hai. It's such a Manik thing to do. I am not against the kidnapping per se...he wants answers and she isn't giving them to him, she always runs away. So he made sure that this time she won't run away. It's not that. It's this line of his,

"It'll be so much fun proving you wrong."

Why did it seem like a challenge? Why did it seem like he was treating her there as an object to be accomplished rather than the woman he has feelings for? I know that when Manik obsesses he forgets everything else. And his obsession has always been Nandini. But he used to have certain respect for her. He never forced himself on her, never did he cross a line. Even at the last moment he used to gain control over himself. He only began to stop himself from gaining control was when he sensed that she wanted it too. I am talking about their scenes before and after the night spent in his room. If Manik can have enough sense to realize that this girl wants to be pulled in, can't he also realize that she wants some space? Why treat her like an object? Why be a monster with her like that? Why the complete restart like this Manik Malhotra? Why can't you understand what she's been wishing you to understand - that she's a human and she has every right to be considered, regardless of the situation. He still doesn't do that...

Maybe it's just me going overboard because exams are messing up with my head but no..this isn't the Manik I wanted to see here. I liked that Manik who might have shouted on Nandini in one second but apologized the next second because he knew that what he did was wrong.

(I am clearly too messed up)

EDITED

Mais I have genuine concerns about myself. I'm on call today and all I'm thinking is " I have to unres in mais post" . Work seems to be getting in the way of MaNan time,someone please give me perspective..

Originally posted by: charminggenie

I understand everything you wrote and from where this comes , Maisu, I really do.

Lets step back does she really want space at this point? Isn't she at this stage as messed up as him. She is hurt and rightly demands more than his apology. But what is that she wants -assurance, his acceptance of love , trust ? She is as clueless as him to sort whatever they have.

She has realized that no matter what she cannot kick him out of her head, a part of her doesn't even want to do that.

On the other hand , there is Manik who like you said used to apologize after making the mistake - but he did that right? The 100sorrys to compensate for the mistake , but it didn't work, why? Because they both don't know what they want to jump over this impasse - there is one thing which will sort it , it's communication, uninterrupted .

They both are stubborn. He is not forcing her to accept him , but he needs to have his say with no guilt on his head and she needs it too, because somewhere this is all she needs.

This might seem childish but this is how he acts , i will be disappointed if they don't have a proper communication but I am not upset that he resorted to this. Because it is not different from him cornering her around in his room, bathroom , college , her place etc.

This is his repentance , giving her his honesty ,sharing his innermost feelings because once he forced her to tell her heart's say , now he is the one doing the talking, giving her those promises.

Final decision is going to rest with her , because he respects her enough and she is not someone who will be swayed in till her heart is satisfied.

He has always been around her space.

Frankly they are beyond the stage of forgiveness , she has done that already, she is angry because at him and herself too because of this confusion. They both are aware of each other's feelings too , they also know that somewhere they are not all wrong individually. So to take this call about where they go from here, they need to talk which hasn't been happening. Nandini needs to break her silence tell him what is in her mind and he also deserves to say what he feels for her and why he made the mistake. And how he plans to make it upto her .

So honestly I don't know what else to say. Will come again and bug you more😆

You be always welcome to bug me..I love this kind of being bugged 😳

At this point, even I am a Manik in terms of Nandini. I want to get inside her head to know what exactly she wants because as you said, even she doesn't know what she wants. But I am going to make a guess here and say she wants a sincere apology.

Yes, Manik apologized. But for the sake of the argument which I want to say, let's compare his this apology to his "I promise I'll never hurt you again" wali apology. I loved Manik's room full of numerous sorry cards apology. Because it was sincere. An apology isn't just saying sorry, it's acknowledging one's mistakes and vowing not to do that again. That's what I consider a true apology. Manik only sincerely apologized once i.e. the card wali apology. Uske baad it has been him stubbornly asking him to accept that apology. Nandini doesn't even know what he's apologizing for, how can she forgive him? Manik said that all the sorrys he wrote are nothing compared to the tears she cried because of him. Beautiful, beautiful words to say. Words that really did touch Nandini. Here he was, accepting his mistake and saying sorry for it. But she had every right to not melt at that apology. As he said, the sorrys were nothing. When Manik had apologized after he had harshly grabbed Nandini, he apologized because he saw the physical marks of his behavior on her arms that made him realize and do a backstep ke shit, my reactions are capable of hurting her like this. Ab I won't react like that again. That thought is nowhere to be found in his current apologies.

I know it all comes down to their fundamental, basic stubborn streak of their characters. It makes them and I love that! And you are right, communication is the only way of sorting this issue out. But the thing is ke it's Manik's turn this time to head on confront and confront in a way where he considers her. I have no issues against his kidnapping Nandini, by God that is such a Manik thing to do that I enjoyed it all. My issue is his thought process behind his actions. Karna hai, karna hai, karna hai. He wants to know what is in her head which is stopping her but he doesn't want to know that by her mouth. He isn't pushing the buttons which would make her say her issues to him clearly. He is using his own twisted methods to find out things about her, without considering her which is what's pissing her off in the first place.

Okay, me got carried away. I am not exactly blaming Manik here because blame ki baat hi nahin hai..it's just i am not liking the way this thing is being dragged and treated. The MaNan which were always so high on communication..ab they are forgetting how to talk? Manik could see her expression, hold her chin to face him and ask ever so gently, "Hua kya hai?" and that would be enough for Nandini to want to spill her heart's secrets to him...why is he forgetting that?

(mera head is really massed up)

Mais, i think he has been sincerely apologetic towards his act and hasnt shyed away from accepting it..
He even told cabir on how it was all his fault and owned upto his mistakes, and that he understands she is pissed at him ..

The thing is even nandini is not ready to communicate, she has been running away frm the communication too, he tried apologising , like he said today why is she forgiving me?? he wants answers for those why's..

It did not look like a challenge to me, in fact i feel tomor he might be completely soft towards her and pull for a conversation and explain her his state and get to know what is stopping her from forgiving him..

Originally posted by: shelly_08

How about seeing it from this perspective-

Manik is a man of extremes! There's just no in-between for him. Be it his passion, be it his obsession, be it his joy even. So it could have well been a case of him going overboard in euphoria.

You see how he was completely all right with Dhruv dropping Nandini home, in fact he ensured it! Doesn't this action speaks for itself? He was super- confident, super-happy, super-giddy and very much in love. 😆

His words could well be the result of the overwhelming happiness he's got to feel after so long! So, I'd give him the 'benefit of doubt'. 😆

And if I remember right, you misinterpreted his "I don't like it" as well (yeah babes, my memory is QUITE sharp 😈) but of course, uss dialogue ka toh popat ho gaya baad mein. 😆

So I'd suggest to give it time, give him a chance and yeah- take good rest to prepare for your exams. 🤗

Tu mere bakhye udhaad 🤣 But I did say in my original post, my head is messed up so Imma continue with it 😎 Nothing beats a good discussion, right?

Okay, what you say makes sense. And giving benefit of doubt to anything just ends the discussion so I am not going there. But still, I can not and will not stand by his line. Manik is a man of extremes, no doubt about that. He has shown his extremes to Nandini since the beginning. But what marked a change in him, which Nandini brought, was that when the high moment of his extreme got over he realized what he has done. In the fit of his extreme anger, he did or said something but then he realized it was wrong and then his next action would be say the same thing a bit more rationally. It's not something in my imagination, he has done that. So why is that sensitivity gone now? Yeah, dancing with happiness and showing Nandini that happiness..telling her that she can't always do as she pleases, it was all right and justified and i loved it. Nandini has been acting hot again, cold again, with him and it's enough to rattle anyone's brains and ye tou phir bhi Baba hai. I have a slight issue with the way he's thinking of her in this whole business. Like she's a puzzle that he has to solve. A mystery he has to crack. There's no "she" in his head..it's all "him" there.

I know very well that tomorrow I'll be eating my words and Manik will turn things around for sure and I'd be gushing and fangirling like a crazy person. And I'd be doing it shamelessly. But aaj, abhi, in this moment..my reactions are these and I stand by these reactions 100%. Not something that I liked.

Lol, I did misinterpret it but then again, koi wali nahin insaan hi hoon 😆 Perspectives differ..