closer & apart - Page 2

Originally posted by: Sush94

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I agree with you about Harshad, I hated the way he spoke about Nandu. It's high time someone acknowledges that Nandu is this amazing young woman rather than just something they can use. To be honest, I loved Harshad and Nandu'd friendship too. But like you said, Harshad is a lost cause and I don't really want to talk about him.

Navya...what do i say about this girl. I find her stupidity very very annoying... At first it broke my heart, now it just plain pisses me off. As much as i don't want her heart broken I know right now the only way for her to grow up is to have her heart shattered.

I love Cabir as a character because he is so beautifully written but moreso because i can relate to his character to a certain extend. Like you mentioned, Nandu and Cabir are quite alike in the way they handle their pain. And I reason I relate to both these characters is because I am the same. Not to gloat or anything, but I am so good at hiding my pain in front of people that even if i am crying with my mom standing right behind me, she doesn't realize. So to see a character like Cabir and Nandu, who are so very very strong emotionally and yet so very vulnerable, it touches my heart in ways no other character does.

No coming to my babies...

Manik is so consumed by Nandini. His every reaction is a slave to her action.His annoyance at her turned into joy when he saw her laughing like that. The Monster Manik was pushed in thorns which covered his entire body. He should've screamed, gotten mad, take revenge; but he saw her childish mirth and he stopped. Isn't it so like Manik to willingly give himself pain if it means saving the ones he loves? And who else but Nandini occupies the biggest piece of his heart?

I don't think I need to add anything more to that^

MaNan is a couple that is so real. There is nothing about them which makes me think, "what rubbish, shit like this doesn't happen." Every action, every word, every emotion is so perfectly real. Manik's concern and those tears that flowed down Nandu's cheeks.. Gosh. This girl just KNEW that every doubt she had regards to this 'sacrifice' is true. That he is lying. That everything they shared was real. And her mother and fireflies are not liars. Love is not a lie.

But Manik being Manik went ahead a continued being a total moron. *facepalm* but i wasn't surprised that he did. That's how he is and that makes me real. My heart broke watching Nandu frozen like that. But I know she will get Manik to confess, in her own way.

Now moving on from the post and on to you. I just have to thank you for being the one who made me think about the depth of the characters and a story line rather than being superficial. I used to be like that but i love this new way of thinking. And you are the one to thank..🤗

Sush

OMG I am the first to reply...🥳

Originally posted by: .serenade.

Res!

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Okay, I had typed a long reply but I hit something on the keyboard and it got lost. -_-

Harshad-Navya : I have given up on both of them. So I won't say much. But I am still , in the corner of my mind hoping for some redemption for Harshad and character development for Navya. Something that MAY happen when Harshad's facade fades in front of her.Or atleast reveal Harshad-Fab5 past? Is that too much to ask? *Sighs*

Dhruv-Alya: DhruLya be babies and sitting in a tree. Literally. 😆 How did she get up there with that dress and heels though? Just HOW?! 😆

Jokes aside, I really really like them. Dhruv is different when he's with Alya. He is instinctive. He cares for her and is so protective of her. He doesn't need to be told what to do, it just comes out of instinct. Which is the way it should be. :3 Chocolate bit was adorbs! <3

And is it just me, or them stopping to care about Manik-Nandini symbollically significant? Maybe it means that when they'll find out their feelings for each other, they'll forget about the other two?!

Cabir- GOD! How I love this guy! The way he broke down after Mukti left.

"Mujhe unn gundo ke peetne se itna dard nahi hua, jitna inn teen main aapke bina hua." </3

I love how they're handling this track though. His mom accepting him so early, would have been unrealistic. His heart is gonna break when he finds out that she still is trying to "cure" him . Hang in there, Cabir. <3 Looking forward to this track so much.

MaNan- They were love today. Just pure love. <3

I loved how he smiled after seeing her laugh. After so long I saw a glimpse of old Nandu. The happy, laughing Nandu. And Manik was happier than any of us. *sighs* These little bits make my feels go all over the place. *_________*

Seriously, who is this banda kidding?! He cares for her deeply. Seeing her in pain, makes him loose control over his mind, forget everything else and running to get her to a hospital! His breath hitches the moment he sees her about to faint. Not even a monkey would buy his 'I don't care for you' shit now. -_-

THAT HUG! CIRCLES MAN! CIRCLES! <3

The instant solace they find in each other. Manik hugging her in need of assurance that she is fine. And Nandini ? She found all the answers she needed. The pain, concern and the relief in his eyes when she told him she was fine. It gave her all the answers. Loved how she questioned him directly! This is the girl I love. <3

I don't think she bought his still-being-an-impulsive-gadha "class" act. Nuh uh. I think the frozen Nandy meant something else. She needs him and he needs her just as much if not more. She needs to make him drop his facade and she will do it. He needs to do a lot of fixing things though.

She wants physical and emotional assurance that he's going to be there for her now. And he needs it too. That what he feels for her, what she ignites in him is something he can't give up for any reason. Like always, they need each other. Like always, it's gonna be them on equal grounds. Like always...it'll be them. Purely, completely...them.

^ So true! And so beautifully put by you. ❤️

P.S. I am not a BIT surprised that they didn't show the precap today. I knew it would happen. 😆

Originally posted by: ...Oyshee...

u know mais, the 1st thought that came to my mind was exactly that... yeh aliya heals pehenke itne oochey per pe kaise chadhi?! 😆

Originally posted by: monsterspot

Wonderful review...

Cabirs mom will try to cure him. She is still firmly standing where she was. In the process we will see her changing and finally accepting...that's Cabir's real track not Raghbir...it's the gay issue covering its acceptance of otherwise in the society and the process.

Alya and Dhruv are really suited and their story too more in line with their characters. Liking their progress and change in relationship dynamics.

Chocolate scene so cute...

Navya Harshas...why do I get the vibes of Harshad subconsciously accepting Navya. I see them ending together...I really do...I see Navya providing the centre of that something missing in his life and grounding him...unconditional giving and acceptance and support.

Manik and Nandini...will get back again...to continue

Originally posted by: annboleyn

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Mais you darling are my soul sister. I'm curious about the meaning of your name...I couldn't reference it anywhere.

The reason I say the above is coz I also liked Harshad-Nandu bonding in the beginning. As a result of bad acting and slightly confused characterisation Harshad has become a Lost cause. In the hands of a better actor he could be diabolical with a heart. But no such luck here.

Cabirs mom,even with a hidden agenda I totally get. This is from first hand experience..I can't explain it without sounding psychotic but let me try. As a mum Im convinced 100% of the times that I know exactly what my child needs at all times. I can sense his hunger,pain,failure,rejection,love just about every basic emotion without him communicating it. All this is largely based on instinct and I cannot process most times that he has a mind of his own and can make some decisions and I need to trust them. That processing will happen only once Cabirs mom realises that it's who he really is not who he has "chosen" to be.

Coming to Manik and Nandu we'll all I'm going to say I like this girl she's fiesty,smart,clued in,honest and tough. I feel her frozen attitude is more a sense of helplessness not hurt. She has joined the dots and whatever Manik thinks he is doing is not going to matter in her head. She knows his touch,his surrender,his ability to make her laugh. Women get nonverbal clues well and well Manik is just a GADHA.

UFF that hug was sheer poetry.it was so pure yet decadent

Dhruv I'm warming upto,I like his "focus" why should Parth have all the "focus" ALYA is such a cutie ..I don't get these kids they are off to a jungle and the go wearing Chanel,Louboutins...but Alya on a tree pure genius.

I still find Navya a bit jarring when she is with Harshad so am going to leave it at that.

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Near perfect episode. All these events -Musicana night and now this revenge/jungle track , they all seem to move the equations of the characters more than anything.

This show is excellent in building the characters and continuously explores them and test their ability to adapt , understand and grow.

Harshad doesn't surprise me anymore, he has always viewed characters including Navya and Nandini through his perspective and how they will shape his big game. He saw the resilient Nandini who stood up against fab5 and threatened to destroy their rein , he observed a gullible Navya, all willing to cling to his every word. He used to put Nandini in situations purposefully to influence Manik and the fab5. So his views on her were very natural and that is why I think he is falling in whatever game Nandini+fab5 are setting for him. He just doesn't know Nandini , never saw her, therefore will underestimates what she brings to fab5. He prides on knowing them all but it's she, the one , who is going to blindside him.

He is very patient with Navya because he needs her. She brings Nandini factor , also required to maintain his reputation in SPACE.

Hmm..all of this is true. But I don't think that the sense and humanity Harshad showed in the beginning was all a part of the plan. He was legit Navya/Nandini's savior in some sense. I for one can not forget how he talked to Nandini about Rishabh, about letting Rishabh have some space for himself. That didn't seem fake or orchestrated. The Harshad who didn't shy away from admitting to Raghav that rock for NH3 is way too much to do alone, that Harshad was legit grey. Yeah, he made his mistakes but when it came to Nandini, he used to apologize as well. He used to view her as a human, phir bhale hi a human who is helpful to his anti-Fab5 cause. He at least cared, even if thoda sa..he cared. But this Harshad, he's so dark. So gone far off..he's so consumed by his own thoughts and plans that yes, he doesn't realize just how strong Nandini can be. As she said, her innocence is her strength. This innocence makes people listen to her and her strong nature doesn't allow any of them to step on her. She's shades and layers under her sweet demeanor..and Harshad can not be bothered by that.

The most significant thing about Alya-Dhruv scene , besides the mystery of how she climbed the tree was them letting go of their worries for Nandini-Manik. They preferred to be with each other than to seek the mirage that they both have built in their heads. They see each other as individuals. Baby steps but they both are slowly attuned to the sudden slight shift to their tone.

And isn't that just precious?! The way they are not only letting go of the cause of such hopeless hope and gloomy misery and instead are choosing to spend time doing things which will make them happy...I find it too precious actually. The way they light up in each others' company, the way they are beginning to sense the spark, they way they will grow from being friends to lovers..aah. Such normalcy was needed in the show. No fated dhamaka or toxic love or unrequited feelings or love end in tragedy - but legit two teenagers who became friends, sensed the spark and worked on it. One day at a time. Yikes, I am giving shipper vibes now!

Mukti - I am glad that they atleast mention that she is going to a rehab, I hope they dwell on it too and show her struggles of letting it all go.

Doesn't one join a rehab center as in they live there for some time? 😕 Wouldn't it have been better had she joined a support group? I love her step of getting control of her life back but I am confused of her decision to join a rehab center..

Cabir-Mom

This has been his life, sporting the clownish mask, observing everything and compartmentalizing it.But just when he was alone, the grief of being separated from his mother- the one who promised him an unconditional love, the affection that has been his constant - his home, it all came crashing and the boy who hid his tears, finally broke down . For one happy moment , his dream became the reality again- she was there all accepting, willing and welcoming. His home was his again. But then the mother gave it away- she loves him ofcourse and it's precisely why she will never give up on correcting his "problem". I am so glad they have this track, it is super vital and so important. The acceptance needs this conflict and the struggle. I am just too thankful.

Cabir always had a legit home. A place he goes to every day where someone awaits him, cares for him, loves him. It wasn't a house with strangers living in, it was home with his mother. And that pain of losing it was too crushing for him. His home, his mother hadn't come to visit him. Hadn't contacted him. He was having all kinds of bad thoughts, all kinds of ugly possibilities that he'd never go back to that home again haunted him as he lied on the hospital bed alone. And when the home came to him, it was like he got everything. Things were normal again. It wasn't a big heavy dramatic moment, it was his home accepting him in again. But he doesn't know that some rules in the home have changed. Aaah..I love the look CM gave to Cabir in the end. This was needed for Cabir. His journey of getting accepted and accepting himself is far from over..

Manik-Nandini.

They are all consuming , right?

Loving her has been difficult for him and "hating him" is just not possible for her now. He bore all the thorns with a smile, rather welcomed their pain because it brought a smile on her sad face- these days he has been giving her nothing but the tears, pain but if it took getting pricked by the thorns given by her- he embraced it all. He did that for the one thing she told him that he needs to earn-his pain, her smile.

Manik despite all his gadhaness is basically just. He knows that he has caused her pain, he has seen her cry, he has cried for himself and her. But he knows that it's not enough. He wanted to see her smile and if being covered with thorns brought the laughter on her face then be it. He'd happily lay himself in a bed of thorns for her. Gadha can be very poetic..

He is right , they cannot be friends -because that will never complete them . It's the love and this turbulence of feelings which in hope and despair , fulfills their soul.

They be no people who become friends pehle and everything later. The everything later is their very base..the common basic things come next, like friendship..

The Hug

He was dying every second she pretended, his breath was hitched in his throat till the time she assured that all was a lie. The girl is playing him at his own game- the lies.

He was frustrated, angry , pissed and thankful for her being alright. He would have been truly lost had she - the thought was scary enough to make him drop it all and embrace her- because it is always her who calms his nerves.He needed her to steady himself. And that is when , she saw it all- the boy , for whom she has given her fireflies away. The Manik- who was with her , in everything they felt, shared and experienced. The love in his actions, the fear for her and his anxiety told her to separate his truth from all the lies.

Till now, it has always been him deriving all the peace, solace from their hugs but today she wanted it too. She let it go in his embrace, she needed him to trust herself and them. Hence the tears.

She has always given in to his hugs. The first one had her timidly reaching out and daring to experience his proximity in such a soulful way. The second one had her all smiling and anticipating the mounds of hugs she at that point thought was going to be their future. But here, today, she wanted peace. She wanted assurance. She wanted security. She wanted everything he had wanted when he had waited outside her house and demanded her to come out. The tears that slid down her face, they were the proof that she needed. That all she felt was was not a lie. That the boy for whom her fireflies glowed was still the same. Her faith of 17 years was not a lie..

Then came the questions- she knows he lied and the reason for it. There is nothing left now. She wanted him to stop the lies. But he cannot, he is just too deep, he will fight for his stubbornness and hence he refuted it all...again. She is beautiful, irresistible and he cannot be away from her...the truth again , clouded by the lies . But then did she buy them again...I don't think so. How can she after she experienced that hug, saw the fear for her in his eyes... .

She will hate him now for making her go through this. Now her wounded heart needs aloof - she needs to hold his truth in her eyes and not let him ride her again with lies. Her holding on to his truth even with all his lies - will inflict pain and defeat to him. He won't be able to survive it ..hold it for long..

Let the games begin , love is such a violent recreational sport.

Will she hate him? I don't think so. Nandini by nature is so vast in her ability to forgive and look for light in others, she can't exempt him from the grace of that quality. Specially when she needs him there with her. She's too broken, too tired, to pick things up by herself all over again. When he wasn't there, when the hope of him being there was zero..she did it all by himself. But the questions, the doubts had her hoping to find in him someone she could lean on. Oh, she isn't getting weak. But she needs it. She needs him. There's no one else in the world for her. Him, the one who brought her all that pain, she'd reach out and stop the same person from going away from her. She needs the truth, she needs the assurance. Isn't she the same as him? If he uses his physical advances to show what he really feels, then she gives in those advances to tell that she understands. Manik has already lost. The moment she questioned him directly, the way he avoided it like a fool..that was him losing. Her questions, her words have done their work. Now her silence will end it all. Oh...he's a goner, Manik Malhotra is. He can win the games but the battle is going to end in Nandini's favor..

Originally posted by: ..Serendipity..

U said it all...and so beautifully. ...I m just left speechless Mais!!
these 2 leave me speechless n ur words just make it all so ...smooth and velvety ...YES I have officially lost it I dont even know whay I m writing d last scene was just so hearywreckingly beautiful! !

Originally posted by: diva82

I just wanted to say Thank you for such an awesome review, mais, genie and everyone.
Mais, I know you are very busy and yet you take the time to come and post your review. I really appreciate it.

If anything, I think I am more your fan than the show. You bring MaNan alive in your post. Truly, it is remarkable. Each word you describe, when you explained Nandini's last shred of hope, when she felt that magic in Manik's arms, the same magic she always felt. I feel that she will have to be strong and fight for this relationship, fight for Manik and herself. Because Manik will not do it, he can't, he is far to guilt-ridden, I think he feels guilty for taking Dhruv's love interest, where in actual fact, Nandini belongs to him.