'The fault in our stars'

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I really like how thoughtful and careful cvs are , the story and sequences make perfect sense always. There is sense to their method and that is very heart-warming, what can go just as some mindless mush , turns out so significant. 👏


It was nice to see Nandu being so hesitant , it shows that the hug affected her too. The peace was felt by her as well . But she , like him will now struggle to word it. Specifically because not only is she discovering the real Manik but he is leaving a big impact on her . When she advises him or guides him in the emotional mix, the after-effects make her a different person too. He is her evolution in many ways. It was such a special moment when she tried easing her worrying lines , that gesture spoke so much about - Why Nandu , for him? Because she is the only one noticing the burden Manik shoulders being the leader of Fab5.

Cabir-Raghav
I am not comfortable with Raghav maintaining his distance. I can understand his cynicism but this is basically use and throw of Cabir. Raghav if is aware of social repercussions then he should have been more clear to Cabir and shouldn't have entered into a relationship with a student. He cannot be the only one dictating the pace of their relationship. My heart goes out for Cabir, and bravo Ayaz for portraying him so wonderfully.

Navya
She is superficial. Rather taking note of the pain and warning Mukti gave her, she again chose to interpret is as per her convenience . Will she ever be able to recover from the bubble?

Dhruv-Alya
Here it was good Alya spelled it out for Dhruv that he is hiding behind the excuses which are baseless. If Manik can accept him with his fits, his silence then fab5 would never oppose his happiness too. He needs to talk, than assume things. Alya is honest and a good influence on him. Her advise was nice, though we know there is an extrapolation to it but it's ok , she isn't shoving him onto Nandu, as yet.

Nandu-Dhruv
Loved this scene so much. Seriously, good on Nandu for finally having the spine and giving it good to Dhruv. He was taking her for granted. She is his friend and even though she has never given up on him still it doesn't mean he can be the only one making decisions in their bond. The confusion was only in his head . He didn't ask Manik or fab5 , when he first raised his hand for friendship to her than why worry about them now. Also I feel he although hears her but never internalizes what she is trying to tell him. I feel Dhruv needs to grow a lot as an individual and has to come out on his own.
Nandu has been his friend till now and will be for eternity , but he still has a long way to go in terms of understanding their friendship.

Harshad
Was it just me but his reaction about Alya , though understandable was kind of weird too? Probably me , I guess. But these two are really emotionally challenged.

Nandu was visible upset about Alya-Manik. This confusion is her push-pull as far as realizing her feelings are concerned.

Manik-Nandu
See this is why every scene they have is so beautiful because it's loaded with so much depth. The way he felt the need to explain last night, the urge to explain his mental state. Great build-up. While there he was finding words to explain , she remained nervous because somewhere she liked that he sub-consciously chose her to discuss the shock of his life. Him saying it took her back to the moment and her own joy from it.
The mistake was his easier cover. He is used to doing it. But her acceptance shocked him. The way she was nervously wrestling with that tissue , the hurt was numbing for her, but perhaps the fact that it did hurt , probably was most remarkable for her.
But then ,she is Nandu , his firefly and she showed him the light.

Few episodes back it was Dhruv who was reading TFIOS but today it was Manik and Nandu who lived through one of it's classic lines - ""Maybe 'Okay' will be our 'always'..."

His eyes lit up when she said embrace newer experiences, the hand that shied away from mending her face , became more confident. He tried brushing the earlier hurt and perhaps told her that it wasn't a mistake afterall.

That glow on her face, Precious.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Cabir-Raghav: I don't like Raghav's way of dealing with Cabir to be honest, I understand his cynicism, I understand that his hurt and bitterness comes from experience that life threw at him but there is absolutely no need to take it out on Cabir. Cabir is a 19 year old(I assume), with stars in his eyes, he got into a relationship with these dreams intact and while for Raghav it might not be right to come out, Cabir has already found acceptance with one of his closest friends and is quite hopeful that the others would accept him with good reason. So why shun Cabir for feeling what he is feeling, you don't agree with him doesn't mean you stop talking to him, stop attending his calls.Cabir needed Raghav's support after such a big revelation, Raghav is the adult in this relationship, if you were gutsy enough to fall in love, man up for your partner when he needs you, all he needed was emotional support. Which makes me think,is Raghav resentful?, that Cabir got such easy acceptance from Manik maybe, Raghav lost all his friends and family when he did come out.
Dhruv-Alya: Alya did give him some home truths even if it was for her own benefit. Passivity takes you nowhere and its not just true about a romantic relationship but for Dhruv in general.

Nandu- Dhruv : Glad Nandu read him the riot act.Glad Nandu took control here and told Dhruv that he cant fickley decide when he wants friendship with her and when he doesn't. And like you said, he never asked Manik or Fab5 when he started a friendship with her, so why start now? Nandu shouldn't be some patsy that he will one day decide to be friends with and the next day decide not to be friends with.
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Navya is indeed a lost case, I wait every week for her redemption, CV's are u listening? Please get her out of this Harshad obsession once and for all , I know it is coming but please hurry up. Like you said, she only took Mukti's words at a superficial level,but big-time hurt is coming for her.

Manik-Nandu
It is pretty evident Nandini has begun to care for Manik, from wanting to remove the wrinkles on his brow, which is pretty metaphorical to me in the sense, that she wants to remove all his troubles to giving him sage advice that is not only applicable to Cabir but also to their relationship itself.
Manik 's "last night was a mistake" kind of dented her experience from last night but his subsequent care, made her glow again. Manik is not readily going to accept his feelings, guess thats why we are being set up for emotional angst.
Edited by Catatonic_Cat - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks for the update. Haven't watched episode yet. Off to bed,was it a filler sort of episode? I now want some character and story development. I want to see Nandu struggling with her new found feelings. I still hope Manik realises he behaved badly and gets his comeuppance. I'm a bit scared to watch Raghav and Cabir ,have a sinking feeling...Cabir is going to get hurt. Dhruv really needs to figure out himself...I just don't get character connect with him.
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Originally posted by: annboleyn

Thanks for the update. Haven't watched episode yet. Off to bed,was it a filler sort of episode? I now want some character and story development. I want to see Nandu struggling with her new found feelings. I still hope Manik realises he behaved badly and gets his comeuppance. I'm a bit scared to watch Raghav and Cabir ,have a sinking feeling...Cabir is going to get hurt. Dhruv really needs to figure out himself...I just don't get character connect with him.


Doc,
I think story is moving towards Cabir's resolution at this point. Nandu was visibly upset about Alya-Manik status. And she is actually realizing how she feels around Manik, so progress there. I feel Manik needs a big set-back to realize what he has done to Nandu. Fab5 won't repent till it happens to one of them.
With you about Dhruv, it's like there is two phases to him. Initially it was obvious that he had a crush and he helped her behind fab5's back. But then when he became friends with her, he has taken massive steps backwards for no particular reasons. I feel he takes things too much on face value. He has a long way to go before he comes into his own. With Nandini he is in too much awe, I don't think he get what she was trying to tell him today. Their bond with or without Manik around, would have been flat .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Beautifully described their unsaid emotions CG! 😃 You and CC have kept me from going insane today. thank you 🤗 P.S. I apologize for the late post.

Manik- Nandu: Gorgeous, in every sense of the word. There is unspoken understanding, awareness and care for the other person and all of it is conveyed by actions. She comforted and reassured him last night when he needed it most. Her action of smoothing out his brow signifies that she'd always be here for him, come what may. Its endearing and heartening to see how they are getting on the same page. They have started to cherish each other.

A game of who's going to blink first' has commenced between them. 😉 He was trying hard to interpret her feelings (before blurting out that last night was a mistake) and sensed awkwardness and nervousness at her end. She, on the other hand, looked crestfallen at his statement (because she knew she felt something during their hug) and wondered if she was letting herself go too far... Manik, I think wanted some kind of sign, no matter how small, that she is just as affected as he is, that she is also experiencing strange, new emotions just like him. They both sense that something has changed between them, the wind has shifted, there is palpable tension and super awareness ❤️ But who will blink first remains to be seen.

Her words of wisdom, struck the right cord as usual😉 for they apply to everyone at SPACE, her included. I did notice that smile on Nandu's face once Manik walked away. Like she has begun to process her untold feelings for Manik as well.

Cabir- Raghav: I second your thoughts. Raghav is older, more cynical (probably faced rejection/ prejudice and hatred from close quarters and the society). I understand his reluctance in coming clean but his younger lover, he wants to fly, wants to be fearless in professing his love. Isn't love also about being each other's support? This relationship track feels real, there are no more rose-tinted, wind-blowing through hair (madhoshi type) sequences but real issues that need to be handled sensitively by both parties in order to reach a balance. I wish they sort it out, some give and take to reach a consensus.

Navya is a lost cause at the moment. She is so one-dimensional in her approach towards her life / passion which is saddening to see. Mukti's sharp words of wisdom haven't had the desired effect. She is still her stupid, superficial, cursory self. One needs to be sensible, independent, ambitious and comfortable in one's skin for starters, please someone beat it into her head! 🤢

Alya- Harshad: Both superficial and super obsessed in their own ways. 😡

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sparks-galore

Beautifully described their unsaid emotions CG! 😃 You and CC have kept me from going insane today. thank you 🤗 P.S. I apologize for the late post.

Aww, Thanks always for your sparking and bright comments😉😆

Manik- Nandu: Gorgeous, in every sense of the word. There is unspoken understanding, awareness and care for the other person and all of it is conveyed by actions. She comforted and reassured him last night when he needed it most. Her action of smoothing out his brow signifies that she'd always be here for him, come what may. Its endearing and heartening to see how they are getting on the same page. They have started to cherish each other.
Cherish is the word. It's like her acceptance of that hug changed everything. In that moment they were most real to each other and cut open their souls for other to see. And they both saw what they meant for each other . It's scary and unknown to both of them.

A game of who's going to blink first' has commenced between them. 😉 He was trying hard to interpret her feelings (before blurting out that last night was a mistake) and sensed awkwardness and nervousness at her end. She, on the other hand, looked crestfallen at his statement (because she knew she felt something during their hug) and wondered if she was letting herself go too far... Manik, I think wanted some kind of sign, no matter how small, that she is just as affected as he is, that she is also experiencing strange, new emotions just like him. They both sense that something has changed between them, the wind has shifted, there is palpable tension and super awareness ❤️ But who will blink first remains to be seen.
You said it. Its blink-first game for them. I feel he was very awkward because he can deal with her anger, her scold but her acceptance undid him .He is not sure how to word his new feelings for her and to see her so harried didn't help. I feel "mistake" was his bait to her and when she "ok" it , he felt disappointed and missed her sad face. But when she in her typical prof Nandu mode explained him not just about Shock but about the new feelings, he clearly took it as a sign. The surety when he cleaned her face.

Her words of wisdom, struck the right cord as usual😉 for they apply to everyone at SPACE, her included. I did notice that smile on Nandu's face once Manik walked away. Like she has begun to process her untold feelings for Manik as well.
For a smart girl , i am glad it didn't take her long to notice her budding feelings for her. But sadly till Alya thing is not cleared , she will struggle and that will be her angst. Loving him silently will be a pain for her. I feel manik should clear it out because even then if Nandu says , she would atleast be free to explore her own feelings more clearly.

Cabir- Raghav: I second your thoughts. Raghav is older, more cynical (probably faced rejection/ prejudice and hatred from close quarters and the society). I understand his reluctance in coming clean but his younger lover, he wants to fly, wants to be fearless in professing his love. Isn't love also about being each other's support? This relationship track feels real, there are no more rose-tinted, wind-blowing through hair (madhoshi type) sequences but real issues that need to be handled sensitively by both parties in order to reach a balance. I wish they sort it out, some give and take to reach a consensus.
I like how real it is between them. Age difference would crop in now. They belong to different worlds and this would be their struggle. Cabir is giving something so selfless and complete, the ball is in Raghav's court.

Navya is a lost cause at the moment. She is so one-dimensional in her approach towards her life / passion which is saddening to see. Mukti's sharp words of wisdom haven't had the desired effect. She is still her stupid, superficial, cursory self. One needs to be sensible, independent, ambitious and comfortable in one's skin for starters, please someone beat it into her head! 🤢
She would continue with her superficiality because it keeps her going and provides her a reason to continue with single-minded jaap of Harshad. She is clueless and flighty. I feel a good jolt would break her completely and it would be interesting to see which way she will swim.

Alya- Harshad: Both superficial and super obsessed in their own ways. 😡
They both are not bad but they just are solely self-focused. But unfortunately , they ignore the signs about themselves too. There is vacuum in their lives.

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Great post, CC, I'm just going to post what I wrote in the other thread

"Go home you need sleep" says the shy Nandu, to an exhausted and disheveled Manik😳
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The episode starts from yesterday where Nandu sees her Hero 😳 (not monster now) sleeping like he hasn't slept in years, so peaceful. She notices he is wearing the same clothes as last night. She awakes him by rubbing the frown on his eyebrow and she excuses it by the paper (umm Nandu, why lie, that paper was somewhere else 😆)
Nandu was soo hesitate in asking him about how he didn't go home after last_____and stops in mid sentence and looks away. She was so cute and pretty here, and Manik couldn't find the words initially and then wanted to keep his bad boy image alive saying he was partying all night and came straight here so lets get down to do business (both kept thinking about that magical hug, don't worry we were too ). Nandu wasn't ready to be normal with him, in fact she couldn't be near him so just send him home. He was hell bent on staying but Nandu shyly walked away. And he watches her with a dazed look his face, as if he has never seen anything more beautiful to be woken up to.

Navya and Nandu--first time after a long time I actually felt for Navya. Yeah some home truths were given to her and it did hurt her but it was needed. I liked how nandu told her that if you don't want to follow her then we will tell harshad. Before they could sajid comes and drops his bomb. I actually liked how harshad defended his sister (yes CVs don't make him totally humane, he loves his sister and I know he cares for mukti..in his hatred for FAB 5, please don't forget this) . Nandu visibly flinched at Alya will only love Manik, but I love she defended Alya's honor too, lol, like she was telling herself (don't worry nandu, you are already in Manik's heart even if he doesn't know it).

Cabir - Manik...why didn't Mukti object here? 😕 What happened now?

NH3 -FAB 5---awww such shyness and awareness Manan😳 Did Manik actually looked down like a shy dulhan? 😲😆

Dhruv Poor guy will get his heart broken but I liked how he reminded Alya that she did in fact send goons and how will everyone react to his feelings for nandu.

Dhruv and Nandu..I'm glad Nandu told him off in fact, Dhruv needed to hear that and at least he realised he wasn't right. So, Friendship back on.

Navya..please PLEASE don't dress up like that..oh gosh!!!

Manan 😳 I love how Manik just watches her from afar, almost like he is admiring her andthen comes close to her. Notice how he didn't scare her like before, just waited for her turn around (change!) awww nandu, she is soo aware of her feelings now that she threw water on her face. Manik didn't laugh nor called her dumb, just told her to "follow me Duuudeee, she is not your girlfriend, not yet anyway 😆
The staircase love nest ---look at how Manik instinctively moves to help Nandu but stops himself in time. He explains how he didn't realise how he ended up there (Manik, it was your heart talking, you needed your soulmate 😳) and when he said mistake, awww my poor nandu, she was visibly shaken at that. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT!! or at least her heart didn't. Manik realised too and was irritated at her "ok" (ummm you said it was a mistake, what did you expect her to do, give you hi 5 😕) But when Manik's little angel gave him AGAIN the solace but in her words, he was happy, smiling and moved to wipe her eyes and blow her eyes, so seductively, like a whisper of secret promises of tomorrow,,leaving nandu in a space filled with unspoken desires.

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Originally posted by: diva82

Great post, CC, I'm just going to post what I wrote in the other thread

"Go home you need sleep" says the shy Nandu, to an exhausted and disheveled Manik😳

Seriously, how cute was that. She was so shy, coy and yet worried for him. Her care befuddled him for a second.
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The episode starts from yesterday where Nandu sees her Hero 😳 (not monster now) sleeping like he hasn't slept in years, so peaceful. She notices he is wearing the same clothes as last night. She awakes him by rubbing the frown on his eyebrow and she excuses it by the paper (umm Nandu, why lie, that paper was somewhere else 😆)
Nandu was soo hesitate in asking him about how he didn't go home after last_____and stops in mid sentence and looks away. She was so cute and pretty here, and Manik couldn't find the words initially and then wanted to keep his bad boy image alive saying he was partying all night and came straight here so lets get down to do business (both kept thinking about that magical hug, don't worry we were too ). Nandu wasn't ready to be normal with him, in fact she couldn't be near him so just send him home. He was hell bent on staying but Nandu shyly walked away. And he watches her with a dazed look his face, as if he has never seen anything more beautiful to be woken up to.
Hayeee this scene. 😳

Navya and Nandu--first time after a long time I actually felt for Navya. Yeah some home truths were given to her and it did hurt her but it was needed. I liked how nandu told her that if you don't want to follow her then we will tell harshad. Before they could sajid comes and drops his bomb. I actually liked how harshad defended his sister (yes CVs don't make him totally humane, he loves his sister and I know he cares for mukti..in his hatred for FAB 5, please don't forget this) . Nandu visibly flinched at Alya will only love Manik, but I love she defended Alya's honor too, lol, like she was telling herself (don't worry nandu, you are already in Manik's heart even if he doesn't know it).
You know her hurt could be relatable but the way she numbs it by finding a new obsession makes me pity her. Nandu was so affected by Alya thing. She needs that green signal , something to rid her guilt away.

Cabir - Manik...why didn't Mukti object here? 😕 What happened now?
I think it was too sudden and Mukti might be down because of her missing pills.

NH3 -FAB 5---awww such shyness and awareness Manan😳 Did Manik actually looked down like a shy dulhan? 😲😆
It was so cute. They both are so aware of the change now.

Dhruv Poor guy will get his heart broken but I liked how he reminded Alya that she did in fact send goons and how will everyone react to his feelings for nandu.
I rather liked how she told him that the only thing stopping him is his own head. I feel he really internalizes what she says.

Dhruv and Nandu..I'm glad Nandu told him off in fact, Dhruv needed to hear that and at least he realised he wasn't right. So, Friendship back on.
Yes. Much required, she was clearly taken for a ride and good that she reminded him that friendship is a two-way road.

Navya..please PLEASE don't dress up like that..oh gosh!!!
KKHH much?Anjali transformation during the first half🥱

Manan 😳 I love how Manik just watches her from afar, almost like he is admiring her andthen comes close to her. Notice how he didn't scare her like before, just waited for her turn around (change!) awww nandu, she is soo aware of her feelings now that she threw water on her face. Manik didn't laugh nor called her dumb, just told her to "follow me Duuudeee, she is not your girlfriend, not yet anyway 😆
His hesitation, her shyness . This scene was everything.

The staircase love nest ---look at how Manik instinctively moves to help Nandu but stops himself in time. He explains how he didn't realise how he ended up there (Manik, it was your heart talking, you needed your soulmate 😳) and when he said mistake, awww my poor nandu, she was visibly shaken at that. SHE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT!! or at least her heart didn't. Manik realised too and was irritated at her "ok" (ummm you said it was a mistake, what did you expect her to do, give you hi 5 😕) But when Manik's little angel gave him AGAIN the solace but in her words, he was happy, smiling and moved to wipe her eyes and blow her eyes, so seductively, like a whisper of secret promises of tomorrow,,leaving nandu in a space filled with unspoken desires.
This was perfect. But one question, did he wipe her kajal or was it a tear? I am so confused. Because if it was latter, he kinda noticed her hurt then.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Catatonic_Cat

Cabir-Raghav: I don't like Raghav's way of dealing with Cabir to be honest, I understand his cynicism, I understand that his hurt and bitterness comes from experience that life threw at him but there is absolutely no need to take it out on Cabir. Cabir is a 19 year old(I assume), with stars in his eyes, he got into a relationship with these dreams intact and while for Raghav it might not be right to come out, Cabir has already found acceptance with one of his closest friends and is quite hopeful that the others would accept him with good reason. So why shun Cabir for feeling what he is feeling, you don't agree with him doesn't mean you stop talking to him, stop attending his calls.Cabir needed Raghav's support after such a big revelation, Raghav is the adult in this relationship, if you were gutsy enough to fall in love, man up for your partner when he needs you, all he needed was emotional support. Which makes me think,is Raghav resentful?, that Cabir got such easy acceptance from Manik maybe, Raghav lost all his friends and family when he did come out.

The thing is age-difference is cropping here. These two won't be on one page emotionally unless Raghav start treating Cabir as an adult and an equal partner in this relationship. He is running away and making all the decisions. His hurt and bitterness might come from a real place but it doesn't mean he gets to discourage Cabir who just took a big leap of faith . I feel there are more issues in their relationship. The Anonymity worked in their favor till this point ,it was all rose-tinted but now Raghav needs to let Cabir in emotionally.


Dhruv-Alya: Alya did give him some home truths even if it was for her own benefit. Passivity takes you nowhere and its not just true about a romantic relationship but for Dhruv in general.
Yes, somebody needed to jolt Dhruv. And it did for now. Honestly Dhruv is too passive to internalize but it would be interesting how he takes this up.

Nandu- Dhruv : Glad Nandu read him the riot act.Glad Nandu took control here and told Dhruv that he cant fickley decide when he wants friendship with her and when he doesn't. And like you said, he never asked Manik or Fab5 when he started a friendship with her, so why start now? Nandu shouldn't be some patsy that he will one day decide to be friends with and the next day decide not to be friends with.
I loved how she went after him. Thank God Nandu is real and not a Mahaan soapy heroine who is ever forgiving. She was upset and she aired it. Good . Her underlining friendship word is very final .

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Navya is indeed a lost case, I wait every week for her redemption, CV's are u listening? Please get her out of this Harshad obsession once and for all , I know it is coming but please hurry up. Like you said, she only took Mukti's words at a superficial level,but big-time hurt is coming for her.
Huge hurt is coming her way. I feel will it be easier for her to go to a dark place. She is very single-minded , her bitterness would be at another level. Or will she realize the hollowness of her life and try to stand on her own.

Manik-Nandu
It is pretty evident Nandini has begun to care for Manik, from wanting to remove the wrinkles on his brow, which is pretty metaphorical to me in the sense, that she wants to remove all his troubles to giving him sage advice that is not only applicable to Cabir but also to their relationship itself.
Manik 's "last night was a mistake" kind of dented her experience from last night but his subsequent care, made her glow again. Manik is not readily going to accept his feelings, guess thats why we are being set up for emotional angst.
Both of them through their actions and care , kinda spelling it for us what is building and growing between them. If Manik is afraid of the intensity of his feelings for her, she would be all guilty because to her he belongs to someone else. Their refusal to word it will be our emotional angst. Sigh. 😆

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