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Posted: 10 years ago
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Saif andaaz-e-bayaan rang badal deta hai
Warna dunya mein koi baat nayi nahin.

This is the couplet which my literature teacher said in our class. It's quite simple Urdu but for those who can't understand, the gist of it is that it's the way you say something which changes the feel of it else nothing in this word is unsaid. That's the basic jhol with any and all literature. All the topics in all kinds of media and literature have been explored before and are being explored. It's the way one explores them which leaves a mark.

On that very literature note, I'll come on topic. I doubt that Indian telly is hardly the place to go looking for originality. Yes, nothing about Manik is original. He's a basic amalgamation of so many angsty/misunderstood/dominating male protagonists. Again, nothing is original in MaNan as well. They are typically the same hatred-to-love couple. But similarly, I also find nothing original in Dhruv or DhruNi. I see them and I get flashes of so many kdramas that I've watched which have these kind of second heroes who share such wonderful moments with the girl but never end up with her. It took me many dramas and heartbreaks to realize that despite the second guy being the better choice for the girl, in context she is not the one who completes her. You can't control your heart. And the heart wants what the heart wants.

I am not being offensive but just putting a point. It's all about treatment. Whereas I hated the hordes of ASRs and MSKs and the Randhirs, I don't hate Manik. And frankly, it's wrong to compare those kind of heroes to Manik. They belong to different leagues. Similarly, it's utterly WRONG to compare Manik to Tsukasa ( or Jun Pyo..whatever his korean name was..) In HYD, the basic turning point for Tsukasa was the kick which Tsukushi landed on him. Punch in KY2. That kick reminded him of his sister, the only person from home who loved and adored him, didn't let his moods control her and basically did as she pleased. But in KY2, the whole plot fundamentally deviates from HYD. KY2 at this moment is not inspired from HYD. It was till the punch, uske baad all they've written is for this show only. The originality of the writing isn't the issue here, original dhundne niklen ge tou we can hardly count original shows on our fingertips. It's the treatment which counts.

I am not demeaning your bias, no. Everyone has the right to watch the show for their own reasons and interests. But this accusation of Manik or MaNan being unoriginal and Dhruv/DhruNi being the most original thing bothers me. DhruNi and Dhruv are no more original than Manik or MaNan. I haven't seen 100 Days but didn't the CVs wrap the track with one incident and didn't drag it for 100 Days? I doubt the movie had a scene where the guy went, "Sorry girl, you be having troubles in your real life and I can feel that. So imma set you free." So yeah, inspiration for that track - unoriginal. Ending of it - very original. Every show nowadays is an inspiration of something or the other, every character is an inspiration and amalgamation of two-three different characters. It's the treatment which makes different.

Manik is the not the Indian Tsukasa/Jun Pyo. He's just Manik. If he's Tsukasa, then Dhruv is to be Rui and Rui was drastically different than Dhruv. So was Tsukasa and Rui's relationship. You can't just take one character from HYD and start comparing it with its supposed counterpart from KY2. All characters and relationships should be given the same treatment. Nothing other than the initial set up of the episodes is similar between HYD and KY2.

As for Ekta Kapoor concept, I strikingly remember that even Tsukasa and Tsukushi were locked in a lift for a night. That was a HUGE moment for them as a couple and played an extremely important role in the future of theirs. And HYD's story is much older than Ekta Kapoor's show. So, yeah..once again, not original but the treatment which matters.

These things which one terms unoriginal are actually "tropes". Tropes aren't cliches but they are the basic go-to plot devices in any form of media/literature. So many shows, despite being vastly different than in genre, share many tropes.

Rude Guy with Heart of Gold - Trope.
Sweet Girl with Nasty Temper - Trope.
Supportive Guy BestFriend - Trope.
Heck, even this:
Tall Guy, Short Girl - Trope.

Any show, when stripped down, basically come down to tropes. It's how one uses these tropes which determines the quality of anything.

I apologize if I went way off tangent here...there were so many thoughts in my mind and gathering them wasn't easy.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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To all My fellow DhruNians who think DhruNi has ended.

Dhruni hasn't ended and nor would it end till we reach the last episode of the show or else no one will like the show as most of us are hooked cause of the soul mate thingy and even when MaNan will break up many times, Dhruv will be there for her, by her side! Yes Dhruv will be heart broken but he is a golden boy (i know others call him a chocolate boy) and he will learn to live with her memories friendship and affection! They aren't meant to be boy friend and girl friend but beyond that! Isn't that how soul mates are? Too transparent and too pure to be named?
I being a DhruNian am glad that DhruNi isn't the end game as their story won't be a typical love story with loads of misunderstandings and tons of break ups but a beautiful bond of faith trust affection and much beyond what the world calls being committed!

Signing off
Iptisha









Share your opinion, even if you agree with me! :)



WHt a beautiful post ..u deserve a hug for this dear🤗...amazing write up 👏..specially this Last part ...I loved each and everyword of tht and yesss they r meant to be Soulmates ..Dhruni..❤️
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Catatonic_Cat

NO OFFENCE TO ANY FANS.

I am going to answer this as a neutral viewer turned MaNan shipper. Dhruv as a character is too passive for me, so passive that there is no continuity, no growth in the Dhruni scenes for me.
Active characters drive the story, whether we like it or not.

Dhruni seem to be stuck in the same moment that they started off with, cute scenes and all.There is no progress in their relationship at all, all they talk about is Manik, or the weather like yesterday. Nandini seems to have shared her deepest fears, her secret loving for fireflies with Manik, but with Dhruv, they have nothing to talk about, I cant see any organic growth in their relationship, they seem to be in the same phase when they met right now after months of being friends, whereas with Manik and Nandini, you can literally point out the growth.

And as cliched as MaNan is, its the treatment that varies, its not like Manik woke up after the storeroom and gave up his ego, he is still fighting his attraction and Nandu is still to forgive him.

All great love stories have the similar stories, but the fact that even a novel like Pride and Prejudice with a kadoos Mr.Darcy and prejudiced Lizzie Bennet still remains one of the most favoured novel 200 years later is kind of a testament to the fact that how and why this kind of romance works.

More later.



This is basically all I wanted to say but things slipped my mind 😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anilaa-

I couldn't agree more...

First of all thanks for the title & post!.. They are not many DhruNi fans that would make such posts (including me) so I was shocked to see a post supporting DhruNi as they are VERY few of those on this forum.

Coming to the love-hate concept of MaNan it's typical, so I don't find it that interesting... but when you look at DhruNi they are different, not only with their scenes but with their story line as well... so all support to DhruNi :)



Yess Anila ..even I too rarely Visit forum and was surprised to see such a beautiful post for Dhruni ...kyunki aajkal Dhruni scenes and posts r like a rain in a Desert ...😆...Thnk u so much for this one..😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anilaa-

I couldn't agree more...

First of all thanks for the title & post!.. They are not many DhruNi fans that would make such posts (including me) so I was shocked to see a post supporting DhruNi as they are VERY few of those on this forum.

Coming to the love-hate concept of MaNan it's typical, so I don't find it that interesting... but when you look at DhruNi they are different, not only with their scenes but with their story line as well... so all support to DhruNi :)



Well I don't deny that Love Hate stories help in creating a base for love stories often as then a person would know about every loophole of the other, but then isn't the track lacking originality? I think it is!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhruni

agree with each word of you. But diff people ve diff opinion. Even am dhrunian n am dhrunian bcoz I love dhruv. His character is so different n I like dat abt him. Am no more bothered abt dhruni. Am ok with their frienship also. I like all the characters bt except rose I really dont understand her.


Yes definitely! EVery one has their own understanding and own taste! I said I would have loved the love hate relationship but then it would have been the case ONLY if the CVs managed to bring out originality!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pritam-Das

Hello Iptisha! Thank you so so much for putting this thread up. I won't say much.. This forum needed this thread. That's it. We Dhruniians needed it. Thanks again.


I guess so! I am glad that there are people in support! :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ArshiR

hmmm well Manan are the pairing so well they need to hab extended length of scenes...u'll get those scenes if u want 😛

ur makin me all the while curious to watch Pratap Ajabde :p today i went to the forum n my-my ajabde is so pretty


No thanks! MaNan doesn't have to become Angad Kripa or ArShi! We have many couples with those BG scores already!
You don't want me to rant about them do you! I love them together! Yes she is gorgeous in that attire!! <3

At the moment I am not religiously following KYY...! Ajabde and Pratap can't be missed as they are soon gonna grow! 😭

Edited by BeyondWords - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I pretty much started on a neutral front but as of now I have a certain understanding about these characters and the supposed love triangle.
The basic premise for each of these character on surface sounds very done to death - yes including Dhruv. He is suppose to be the quintessential good boy who pines, Manik is read as the same bad boy and Nandini the hapless clueless girl stuck in between? But think again , is this what that is happening?

Lets start with Dhruv- He is a passive character yet with a moral fiber which for some reason he has always shied away from expressing freely. You do seem him get perturbed by the bullying his friends do but he never bothered to use his influence to let them see the light because clearly not just Manik , others look for him as their voice of reason. Perhaps he understands that his friends think that by being all powerful and bullying they would cover their own insecurities and demons, so he lets them be while being the silent viewer. The problem is inspite of having such a good grasp of his friends' emotions , he does nothing . He fades into the background too much unless you put him with Nandini or Manik.

Manik - This character is such a revelation , on first face value we would dismiss him as another ASR,ASAD ( never liked them much) but then you notice how very different and real he is. He is not a jerk or an arse just for the sake of it or for his own reasons but he has to be that person because he is the guy who is protective about this bunch of lost kids who strut around as Fab5 . He has no choice but to pretend as a bad boy because he cannot be weak or else his friends like Dhruv, Alya and Mukti would just fade. He holds on to the fab5 like a little kid who is afraid to part with his beloved toy. Fab5 is his family and he is their protector of sorts. For long he has lived under the pretense of being the bad boy but with Nandini he is forced to retrospect himself and his actions. She is making him look through the pretense and for the first time he is realizing that he has lost the game by being the "bad boy". His dilemma is not about Nandini as much but making a choice about being his real-self yet protecting fab5. So , i respectfully object when you say he is the run-off the mill , anti-hero, who is done to death. No , this guy is real, has depth and he knows that how he behaves is not right but his battle is of totally different kind.

triangle - it's a wonder how we want fresh , newer characters yet we interpret love triangles in the most common manner. Why cannot Nandini share two fabulous equations with both these men. They don't need to compete for her attention but both can develop bonds with her of different kind. In any case the serial started off with the fireflies which spelled it out where they were going. Yet why should we demand or want the same cliched triangle battles when this serial is showing something more meaningful and deeper.

DhruNi - These two are adorable , probably very very similar which stems from their own sense of morality. Nandini recognized it and was attracted to this moral connect with Dhruv. She is like a firefly , letting Dhruv open up and making him comfortable outside his secured Fab5 boundaries. He feels that ease with her. But there is sympathy , empathy and curiosity from Nandu . They are so similar that they don't have anything to discover in each other , yet theirs is a friendship and bond which is unconditional. They would always have that. And Nandu's biggest giveaway to Dhruv is letting him feel easy and free.

MaNan- These two make sense because well they understand each other and not just the moral niceties but vulnerabilities, fears and they seem to bring out that passion in each other which is changing both of them. Manik has added fire to Nandini , the girl was afraid and timid ,now after somewhat conquering him , she is confident and not afraid. He listens to whatever she says, however minuscule it is . While she has managed to shake him up and forced him to feel himself again. That accident made Manik hate dark and made him pretend bad while she took to being that firefly who would fight the darkness with her light. This is what they both are teaching each other. They are letting go of pretenses when they are together.

Unlike other couple, these two are not forcing their versions on each other rather they are just viewing the real them , now. Somewhere they are content with it, Nandu knows the vulnerable him while he understands her sentiments. There is respect and acceptance. This is not your cliched opposites attract story ,it is coming of age for these two characters.




I for one would be happy if we don't get the cliched love triangle where the female is passed around as a volleyball. Nandu can have separate bonds with both of these amazing guys . It's not a race where one bond would trump another . I feel the friendship these three share is refreshing and which makes this triangle talk all the more contriving.
Edited by charminggenie - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Anilaa-

If DhruNi were given a chance, they would have had a well developed story. The CV's wants to show a love triangle, while giving it all to one side and putting in one or two scenes for the next.


Exactly what I have been trying to say! If CVs wanted a love triangle ONLY with no development in Dhruv then why was Dhruv given importance at the first place, making my heart flutter at each DhruNi scene?

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