Facts and puzzles in KYPH-land

I offer you two set of thoughts that I'm going to crunch on over the weekend. If anyone has any further clues/ideas, do tell. I'm curious. :-)

First: Some very strange tidbits that BEG for thought in the last episode (11th Aug):

* While KS is publicly accepting Prithvi's proposal for marriage, the camera cuts back - twice! - to Prithvi's mom pacing in a very worried manner in her house! Why, why, why???

* KS' (EVIL!) mom and dad are pushing for a quick engagement. Why, why, why??? KS offers to postpone the engagement but the dad is almost panicked as he refuses. WHY?

* Prithvi's mom in the previous episode says there is nothing that she can do about her company having withdrawn the loan from the Khanna's. That's such bullshit in serial that has been (relatively) low-bullshit so far, that I'm beginning to wonder why she wanted to get the Khanna-Klan in such a tight squeeze situation. Why?

* On thinking about it, one show and one perfume ad campaign cannot get the PKEnterprise enough funds to pay 50 crores(!!) for a house. Where did that money come from -- Prithvi's mom? Mishti doesn't know about this, I think.

Hypothesis: Prithvi is using his money to buy KS' good will by helping her with her vengence, he is using his money to get the goodwill and eternal gratitude and the pressure that the KS mom-dad pair can put on their daughter, so that he gets KS. (O dear! I was wrong to call him Gnarly Gnome and not Real Man Prithvi??!)


Second: There's a mystery building up in KYPH-land. The weekend might be a good time to try to put it all together. Here are the pieces of the puzzle: the accidents --

* The chandelier falls at the party. A shadowy figure hands over cash to a waiter.

I'm not sure what to think about this one. Getting the chandelier to fall requires a fair amount of preparatory work, I'd have thought. There couldn't have been someone waiting till KS came under the damn thing before dropping it. It was pre-planned. Therefore, the chances of it hitting KS specifically seem low. It seemed more like the villain wanted a disruption at the party.

Josh is curious about the chandelier falling and thinks it is not an accident. However, he cannot stay to investigate. Prithvi was there when he mused about this.

But this might be too high-brow an analysis for a TV serial? You tell me.

* The shadowy figure watches at the window. We don't know what it's doing there, but it's got a knife in it's hand. When KS sees it, it _runs_ away! Now, it would not have known that KS would be stupid/heroic to come out into the gardens alone, but yet it hung around for her to appear. Who is this shadowy figure??

It had the knife out while it was grappling with Prithvi. It might be a tad silly to think that other than the blow on his forehead, the shadowy figure managed no other damage. But then, what do I know? I've never been a shadowy-figure-cum-assailant before! :-)
The next morning, Prithvi is vigorously chasing the case with the police.

Are the two * accidents linked? Why were the arranged? Why is someone out to apparently "get KS"?

Hypothesis: I have none about the chandelier. I have no clue why that could've been done except to accidentally hurt people, which might or might not include KS. Indeed, it could've been AK who got hurt (unless the person who arranged the accident knows that AK spends all of his time at the bar, which was safely away from the chandalier!).

Hypothesis: It was Josh who went to KS' house. My idea was that he knew that AK was coming to thank KS. And he wanted AK to look good by saving KS from the assailant (ie, himself). This is a tad far-fetched because he was taking a huge bet that AK would not have caught him and found out!

Third: AK is happy that KS is with Prithvi because he thinks he's a caring, considerate, big-fat-handholding-nambypamby-doesn't-know-ho w-to-hug-pig - err - guy who will treat KS better than he, AK, treated her.

What if he finds out that Prithvi's not such a nice guy after all, but only after KS because she is going to be the next singing sensation (or some such far-fetched reason)? If he thinks that Prithvi's not going to create a shrine to worship at KS' feet for life, perhaps he might get into action to "rescue" KS from Prithvi! Not for himself, of course, oh no, he's not worthy of her. But from Prithvi, because he is gnarly gnome scum? Huh? What if?

-E

Ohhh, E! My brain is starting to hurt with this post. 😆 😆 😆

Honestly though, Very interesting points. I have a few responses that popped into my tired brain, but I have to jet to a meeting now. Will reply when I get back, o.k.

Luv,

Hafsa

Here is my 2 cents worth...

As to ur first tidbit...
Even I wundered the same thing …. Why was she shown all of a sudden --- I think of it merely as an editing error I think probably she ( n hubby darling too) are in cahoots with Prithvi .... she wanted her best laid plans to go welll.....???


Second tidbit....
I too was struck by this oddity.... Kripa is no longer an unmarried-mother-to-be and this seemingly rich-beyond-words-new-pop rock star can hardly be a threat to her law-suit–challenged dad. So I think Prithvi has probably cooked up something. Maybe on his hasty jet-over to Nainital he has convinced the parents that Kripa's days as a headstrong gurl should now come to an end now that she has proven herself to herself and taken revenge over angad – her old flame. I dunno may be Im grasping at straws here. But u know … ekta is well known for pulling stunts like these.... U know missing scenes in the middle which where not only NOT revealed to viewers, but to the main protagonists as well.... they r shown much later in a very clinical-matter-of-fact -way and we say aaahhh! so that's what happened ....


Third tidbit...
As far as saving the Khanna's is concerned, as H ritely pointed.... That is a load of crock ... Damini can help if she wants coz the money came (not frm Prithvi's side- she claimed) but frm mishty's bonds... either way … even if they from prithvi's gold nuggets - what diff does it make?? She has the say as even there as she had frozen his assets - remember when he was trying to gather money for Krips's first cconcert and couldnt do it....


On the money front .... ur r again bang on.... 1 show and 1 perfume ad campaign donot 50 crores make.
But I was wundering maybe Krips is using some of the money that she won from the 1 million US Dollar Talent concert jackpot..... But u r rite. The figures still don't add up……so the extra bucks may be coming from Prithvi's coffers afterall we do know how blind he is as far as Kripa madam is concerned..... & what's the saying "A fool and his money r soon parted ..... poor prithvi ....... (she is not gonna be good for his soul or his finances- satisfied giggle!)


And as to ur Hyphotheses ....
Well, the 2nd one sounds more plausible....maybe this well laid out plan ran amok by chance.... Angad arrived later , much after Prithvi had jumped into the battle ground to save this precious Kripa..... so Josh had to beat a hasty retreat.... Coz I am damn sure that silhuoette on the door was def the Luscious Mr.Angad.

So my final thought : What if a deperate Prithvi is behind all these near accidents himself.... What if these are his deliberate attempts to ingratiate himself further on Kripa???

U know ppl deperately in luv do desperate things.... maybe he wants to show Krips that alone she can never properly fend for herself ( Akeli larki syndrome and all) .... so she had better take his hand .... as he is atleast reliable and ever present when Mr -sloshed-most-of-time-Angad is not … who knows how things function in Prithvi land..... he may have begun them as a hunch and these fevered schemings truly found their mark on an unsuspecting Kripa....???

What bothers me the most is that he may be in cahoots with her parents.... they r willing partners as they may think that she has been headstrong enuf and now needs to settle down ....like the shudh hindi naari ??? 😕

Originally posted by: elizabeth

* While KS is publicly accepting Prithvi's proposal for marriage, the
camera cuts back - twice! - to Prithvi's mom pacing in a very worried
manner in her house! Why, why, why???

* KS' (EVIL!) mom and dad are pushing for a quick engagement. Why, why,
why??? KS offers to postpone the engagement but the dad is almost
panicked as he refuses. WHY?

I'm as clueless as you with regards to the why's.

Originally posted by: elizabeth

* Prithvi's mom in the previous episode says there is nothing that she
can do about her company having withdrawn the loan from the
Khanna's. That's such bullshit in serial that has been
(relatively) low-bullshit so far, that I'm beginning to wonder why she
wanted to get the Khanna-Klan in such a tight squeeze situation.
Why?

Well. Taniya & I discussed this in the post: Undigestable fact No: 7. I had said how incomprehensible it was that Prithvi be the one to summon the repayment of the 45 carores, when it was Mishty who released her bonds to help Angad out of the entire Boske debacle.

Also, when P wanted to release his bonds to help K with the finances fot her first concert, Damini froze his accounts, so how did she not have the authority to call back the note of repayment???

Originally posted by: elizabeth

* On thinking about it, one show and one perfume ad campaign cannot get
the PKEnterprise enough funds to pay 50 crores(!!) for a house.
Where did that money come from -- Prithvi's mom? Mishti doesn't
know about this, I think.

PK Enterprises… Prithvi and Kripa… as for Prithvi I have no idea where his money is coming from, his accounts were frozen after all. As for Kripa's finances, well she did win the talent contest, with that a contract to the value of a million dollars. Hope that explains it.

Originally posted by: elizabeth

* The chandelier falls at the party. A shadowy figure hands over cash to a waiter.

I'm not sure what to think about this one.
Getting the chandelier to fall requires a fair amount of preparatory
work, I'd have thought. There couldn't have been someone waiting till
KS came under the damn thing before dropping it. It was pre-planned.
Therefore, the chances of it hitting KS specifically seem low. It
seemed more like the villain wanted a disruption at the party.

You're right, it did seem weird that the payment took place and the chandelier falling occurred within minutes, the only thing I can think of is that Ekta used some creative editing and we had some KYPH time travel. i.e the time between the two incidents seemed like minutes but was actually more.

Originally posted by: elizabeth

* The shadowy figure watches at the window. We don't
know what it's doing there, but it's got a knife in it's hand. When KS
sees it, it _runs_ away! Now, it would not have known that KS
would be stupid/heroic to come out into the gardens alone, but yet it
hung around for her to appear. Who is this shadowy figure??

It had the knife out while it was grappling
with Prithvi. It might be a tad silly to think that other than
the blow on his forehead, the shadowy figure managed no other
damage. But then, what do I know? I've never been a
shadowy-figure-cum-assailant before! :-)
The next morning, Prithvi is vigorously chasing the case with the police.

Are the two * accidents linked? Why were the arranged? Why is someone out to apparently "get KS"?

Hypothesis: I have none about the chandelier. I have no clue why that
could've been done except to accidentally hurt people, which might or
might not include KS. Indeed, it could've been AK who got hurt (unless
the person who arranged the accident knows that AK spends all of his
time at the bar, which was safely away from the chandalier!).

Hypothesis: It was Josh who went to KS' house. My idea was that he knew
that AK was coming to thank KS. And he wanted AK to look good by saving
KS from the assailant (ie, himself). This is a tad far-fetched because
he was taking a huge bet that AK would not have caught him and found
out!

Never thought about Josh being the shadowy figure, but that does bear some credence of logic. I do however think that it was Naina who arranged the entire thing, After all, she did say that was going to do something to take care of Kripa.

Originally posted by: elizabeth

What if he finds out that Prithvi's not such a nice guy after all, but
only after KS because she is going to be the next singing sensation (or
some such far-fetched reason)? If he thinks that Prithvi's not
going to create a shrine to worship at KS' feet for life, perhaps he
might get into action to "rescue" KS from Prithvi! Not for
himself, of course, oh no, he's not worthy of her. But from Prithvi,
because he is gnarly gnome scum? Huh? What if?

-E

As for this point, from your mouth to God's ears. Right now we are banking on all our what if's to come true. I frankly don't care how Ekta does it, as long as she brings A-K together before the dredded marriage.

Luv,

Hafsa

Yikes, T. It seems me and you have the same train of thought going here. 😆 😆

I was busy typing my reply when a client walked in, I didn't get a chance to complete until now, never saw yours as my screen was open.

E, it seems like we duplicated our replied to your points. 😆 😆

woah..thats a lot of food for thought! will get back to you as soon as my head stops spinning.

Originally posted by: Mini_minnie

woah..thats a lot of food for thought! will get back to you as soon as my head stops spinning.

ya too much 4 me teeni weeni brain too...

u guys r awesome...hafsa u rock...👏

n elizabeth....me luvs ur posts even more with each new post of urs...n btw all the hypothesis reminded me of Statistics...🤢.....eww my worst nightmare....all the hypothesis testin ...one tailed..two tailed...at 90% significance....null hypothesis...alternate hypothesis.....it jsut brought back a whole bunch of bad memories😆....Phew!....Thank God!...i m done with exams...😆.....sowwie me mad 😳

n angad diwani ...wow!...

i have got enuff to ponder on this weekend now!😃

Originally posted by: Angad_Diwani

As to ur first tidbit...
Even I wundered the same thing …. Why was she shown all of a sudden --- I think of it merely as an editing error I think probably she ( n hubby darling too) are in cahoots with Prithvi .... she wanted her best laid plans to go welll.....???

BTW, this was PRITHVI's mom who was behaving in an anxious manner! Not AK's mom (oops, I mean Naina!) or KS' (EVIL!) mom.

Mrs. Bose was pacing up and down, as if waiting for something to happen.. that was what was so strange. It's as if Prithvi got her to agree to something that she was uncomfortable with or something.

Originally posted by: Angad_Diwani

On the money front .... ur r again bang on.... 1 show and 1 perfume ad campaign donot 50 crores make.
But I was wundering maybe Krips is using some of the money that she won from the 1 million US Dollar Talent concert jackpot.

Hmm, USD 1 million = 4.5 crore, VERY far away from the huge 50 crore that KS bid on. KYPH writers got their sums wrong?? :-)

But actually, hang on! She bid for the house and then gave it away for free! And since it was Prithvi to whom the money was being owed, he could always waive it after it became KS' house as a favour! So perhaps, KYPH writers were using their accounting loopholes skills more than their maths skills?!

Originally posted by: Angad_Diwani

And as to ur Hyphotheses ....
Well, the 2nd one sounds more plausible....maybe this well laid out plan ran amok by chance.... Angad arrived later , much after Prithvi had jumped into the battle ground to save this precious Kripa..... so Josh had to beat a hasty retreat.... Coz I am damn sure that silhuoette on the door was def the Luscious Mr.Angad.

Ya, I thought so too.

(But for a moment, hang the bloody hypothesis! Exactly in which episode did you and SRK_Addict get to see the luscious butt? Or is it just that my mental capacities aren't enough to go beyond that face, those manly shoulders and those sensitive hands?? I've had a deprived past - I need to watch more KYPH episodes! :-) )

Originally posted by: Angad_Diwani

So my final thought : What if a deperate Prithvi is behind all these near accidents himself.... What if these are his deliberate attempts to ingratiate himself further on Kripa???

Desperate perhaps, but not stupid. I now believe that Prithvi is shewder than that those silly expressions on his face indicate. If he was involved in these accidents, he would be putting less pressure to get the cops to chase the problem down, IMHO. No?

Originally posted by: Angad_Diwani

What bothers me the most is that he may be in cahoots with her parents.... they r willing partners as they may think that she has been headstrong enuf and now needs to settle down.

More like putting a social obligation by rescuing them, perhaps? I do suspect that he is manipulating their good graces to get KS.

I really don't get his motivation though. I somehow just can't believe in Prithvi's love for KS like I can AK's love for KS. Why _is_ that? :-(

-E

Originally posted by: elizabeth

But actually, hang on! She bid for the house and then gave it away for free! And since it was Prithvi to whom the money was being owed, he could always waive it after it became KS' house as a favour! So perhaps, KYPH writers were using their accounting loopholes skills more than their maths skills?!

Like you said before, its called poetic license / writers freedom (although i do think that Ektas creative team are taking too many liberties)

Originally posted by: elizabeth

Ya, I thought so too.

(But for a moment, hang the bloody hypothesis! Exactly in which episode did you and SRK_Addict get to see the luscious butt? Or is it just that my mental capacities aren't enough to go beyond that face, those manly shoulders and those sensitive hands?? I've had a deprived past - I need to watch more KYPH episodes! :-) )

Oh, we didn't actually see the luscious butt (If only... sigh). Its a case of very overactive immaginations on our side.😳 😳 😳

Originally posted by: elizabeth

More like putting a social obligation by rescuing them, perhaps? I do suspect that he is manipulating their good graces to get KS.

I agree with both of you on this point, I'm pass the point of trusting Prithvi.

Originally posted by: elizabeth

I really don't get his motivation though. I somehow just can't believe in Prithvi's love for KS like I can AK's love for KS. Why _is_ that? :-(

-E

Perhaps its beacuse:

Firstly, Prithvi's love is unrequited. KS seems very uncomfortable with affection with Prithvi. AK and KS's love burns the screen.

Secondly, we've seen AK and KS go though everything with their love, the happiness, the pain, the stuggles, the repentance etc... so we are more "attached" to it.

Hope that made sense.