Opinions on IQ & other actors

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Posted: 19 years ago
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A Note to Mods:

Please dont' close this topic. It doesn't relate to ITA or personal lives of KYPH stars. It concerns IQ, Neha fans and their expectations of and from their stars.

Now to the topic,

Hello guys😛,

Ok guys, let me make one thing clear first... I have no intention of justifying anybody's, especially IQ's, reservations regarding his co-stars or his reservations in front of a rolling camera. However, unfortunately -cause I hate to single him out- or fortunately - he makes for a good example - I am gonna have to use IQ as a crutch to scale and explore a scary mountain of expectations.

Since yesterday, I have seen plenty of posts discussing IQ's character. We have been quite judgemental of IQ so far, going to the extent of questioning his humanity & calling him 'full of it' and 'inhumane'. I understand that many a reasons have led to this situation.

1. Disappointment surrounding his first Interview

2. His reservations about answering questions regarding Neha

3. ITA awards: accusations flung cause he didn't mention his co-stars.

4. He didn't thank the audience, and maybe others that I am unaware of or just don't feel like mentioning right now.

So I am wondering, in general - I have only used IQ as a specimen 😆- what gives us the right to build mammoth expectations of these actors? We can judge & critique their acting skills cause that is what they intend to sell to us; what gives us the right to think so lowly of them.

Cause these actors fall short of OUR expectations, why do we start bad-mouthing them? why do we start passing comments on how 'uncivil' they are regarding others...take IQ for instance, his one action has caused so much upheavel; we will ignore all his goodness for this, won't we? (lolz, I am reminded of prithvi!)

Only cause these actors open up their lives to the audience & share their experiences with us, do we get the right to pounce at their short-comings like a hungry cheetah? Why exactly is it so hard to overlook their grey shades? Why do we burden our souls by despicing them for no practical reason?

Another instance, IQ didn't thank his audience or his co-stars at ITA. I mean, what is the big deal? Why do we have to make such a big fuss about it? All of you noticed that he fell short of your expectations. Did you notice the sadness that dawned on his face, his face was silent. Shouldn't he be happier achieving an award...we complain, he should smile for us...we don't bother to care why the frown was there.

Gosh, why don't we think that actors are just like us...they have thier share of problems...they make us laugh, cry, smile, and feel the emotions they are feeling. They live a lie for us, and maybe for themselves to some extent. If one failed to give his best for a couple of minutes, we will take that to heart. why?

I guess, all I am trying to say is that we set these actors on a pedestal, idiolize them, and admire them for what they are. We appreciate and critique thier profession...they sell their emotions to us. When we buy something, we are bound to have some hopes and aspirations...

for example, we want to go out and buy a car...we know what we are looking for, we buy the car, but next day something goes wrong with the car (😆sorry, was just reminded of angad-krips fixing the car adventure😆), we will end up cursing and going back to the dealer...get the car fixed...lolz, I am forgotten the relevance of this analogy😆 you know forget the analogy....clip it off!

But they definitely do not sell themselves. why do we take shots at thier character, then? I dont' think that the phrase 'comes with the profession' justifies our/audience response to these actors. Why dont' we ever think beyond ourselves? Why don't we ever want to think from the actor's perspective?

Just cause we pay to get glimpses of them, just cause we emotionally invest in them...do we get the right to assasinate these indivduals? Not seeing beyond their persona and understanding their problems/reservations is so abhorrent. Is our society based on such horrendous principles?

I know, I have put forth plenty of questions...I don't have the answers to them...maybe, all these expectations, and public attitude towards thier actors/entertainers built into our thinking by the society at large! Or we are just not concerned about anybody but ourselves.

I just don't know!

ARe we so selfish? Will we never be understanding of actors, of other people? Will a day never come where we salute them or what they are and not end up taking a dig at them?

Will be and can we stop being so damn offended by others' takes on life, etc?

The reading was long, wasn't it? But, it wasn't as long as some of my other posts😆. Your takes and comments on the topic are welcome as always...and I would like to hear from as many people....diverse opinions is what matters...and you guys can best answer these questions....after all, you are part of this society and the attitude that gets shelved to these actors.

And yes, you are free to state anything...and don't be afraid to upset me...esp. about IQ...I seem to have been extra cruel on him for using his as a lab specimen...but, he makes good for a study...as much as I like him, well...forget it...just state your opinion..

Ugh🤢, I am being haunted by IQ's frown...I wish he would smile.

*reeps😛

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Iqbal should have said thanks to his c0-satrs.reeps very good post.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Hi, I dont think there is anything wrong with having expectations from anyone. We all ahve expectations from other ppl. For example, we always use expressions like please, thank you, etc in our daily life. You put up a post, you EXPECT ppl to reply. It will upset you if nobody does, wont it??
We expect ppl to not to forget their manners under any circumstances. I wonder why he did not prepare an acceptance speech. That is one thing that most indian actors never do and then either they forget their thanks or keep rambling on and on for 20 minutes, thanking everybody from the milkman to the maid.😕
Yeah, it was IQ's fault, for not preapring a speech and being so serious. Isn't there a showbiz school to teach these things??
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Reeps,

I kinda disagree with you here... Iq is a unique case and read on please..... whatever he does, we dont appreciate ... I feel sorry for the guy at times, yes it is human courtesy to thank... but who will bell the cat

Why did you spend so much time analysing Iq and his frown, is it worth the time.... and why do you get disturbed so much about other peoples opinion on Iq.... 😕

Take my advice, dont take the stars personally.... just see the serial and forget it and same with IF posts as well... we just come here to enjoy and spend a couple of hours discussing about them. After that the entire matter should be forgotten, if you ask me... 😛

We all know 'Fans make or break a star' and the stars life is an open book for the fans... that is the risk they have to pay ... sometimes they frown or smile to get extra publicity from their fans. 😊

In this case esp Iq, (sometimes I feel sorry for that guy) his personal life is spread out on a platter for the public to see and diss .... this is causing a very negative impact on him and I hope he realizes it quickly and makes some drastic changes..... 😭 😭 or else he is doomed for failure... 😕 This is my personal opinion. (There are parties here on KYPH forum becasue of this issue...😕... )

In no other forum do the members know so much details about the stars and I wish Iqs life is also like theirs hopefully.

Edited by phoenixsuns - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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IT IS NOT ABOUT IQ!

IT IS ABOUT OUR TREATMENT OF STARS...JUST CAUSE I USED IQ'S EXAMPLE DOES NOT MEAN THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT HIM....

YOU KNOW WHAT I AM CRAZY...I DON'T KNOW WHY I AM SO DAMN OBSESSED WITH COMMON GOOD...AND ALL YOU THINK WHATEVER YOU WNAT...

MODS..PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR AND DELTE THIS POST...PLEASE....

NOBODY WILL HEAR ME SAY ANYTHING IMPORTANT FROM NOW ON...NOBODY...

EVERYBODY...DO WHAT YOU DESIRE...
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Yeah guys this is not about IQ, its about our expectations from stars in general.

But I have to agree with what Mia said, "there is nothing wrong with having expectations from anyone"!!!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Reeps I guess generally speaking when you have an image of a person in your head, and in a second you find out that that person isn't what you thought they were, you are bound to be disappointed. And if you're a public figure people are bound to have expectations from you, so it's important that they present themselves well. If you're in the eye of the public you are bound to be citicised and scrutinized, and public figures should expect that and be prepared for that. Fame also has its negative aspects and that is one of them. This not only happens in the entertainment industry, but in politics and many other industries. It's just human behaviour. Unfortunately people will always jugde you, and it happens everywhere even to normal individuals.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I do agree that there is nothing wrong with having expectations but as Reeps said, there is no need for character assassination, eg calling someone inhumane because they forgot to thank someone.

It's okay to be disappointed but I dont think its okay to become soo dramatic and start insulting the one person who brings a smile to our face for half an hour everyday.

Have expectations guys...Just make sure your disappointment doesnt take the form of slander!!

Gosh, im sorry, i hope this doesnt sound like a lecture cuz that was definately not my intent! 😃
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Evee

well, thats the price you pay for being a star. people have expectations. Most of the stars fulfill basic expectations of their fans then why not IQ! i know its not about IQ but he is a good example of those stars who dont meet the basic expectations of their fans.

I totally agree. Lets use Amitabh Bachchan as an example, why does he have so many fans crazy about him? Well.. i think it is because of his humble and greatful attitude, the way he presents himself in front of the audience, and because people can relate to him. A stars personal life plays an important part in what the audience thinks of him or her. One expects a star to be modest, and greatful and acknowledge the fact that the audience plays an important role in the failure and success of an actor. This should be the same with all celebrities, not only actors.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: phoenixsuns

Reeps,

I kinda disagree with you here... Iq is a unique case and read on please..... whatever he does, we dont appreciate ... I feel sorry for the guy at times, yes it is human courtesy to thank... but who will bell the cat

Why did you spend so much time analysing Iq and his frown, is it worth the time.... and why do you get disturbed so much about other peoples opinion on Iq.... 😕

Take my advice, dont take the stars personally.... just see the serial and forget it and same with IF posts as well... we just come here to enjoy and spend a couple of hours discussing about them. After that the entire matter should be forgotten, if you ask me... 😛

Reeps,

I agree with Padma - you have kinda taken this thing personally and maybe overanalysed too much - my opinion.

We come here post an opinion and walk away - we do not hold any grudge or malice towards the actors and quite frankly what they do or don't do does not make or break our day or our lives. It is a forum we post and we move on.

On the same token, the actors do the same. They are in the media and for every person there will be a different take on what they did. Should they get affected by it?- don't think so - do they? - am sure they do when they are new to the game - but once they have been in the game for long they know what to take to heart and what not to - we have even heard actors on the big screen say this when they are interviewed.

And another thing, we as the public are fickle - we can worship an actor the one day and when another one comes we quickly give up our loyalty from the one to another. The actors know it and so do we. It is all part of the show. It carries on. There are no personal feelings involved.

But am sure if we take the high moral ground, you are absolutely right. We have no right to judge others lest we should be judged in the same way.

Now even though you may find that we liked Eijaz's performance over Iq - we are all not about to leave the KYPH forum and move over to the KV forum. Despite all that we say, we love the show!. It is like your family member behaving badly, you will admire someone else's behaviour but we are not about to give up our family member just because some outside person was better.

Phew that was the longest post ever. Are you contagious😆😆

Love

Maya

Edited by maya123 - 19 years ago

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