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Posted: 17 years ago
Yes, maybe what Draupadi said was insulting, but why in the world is that okay to disrobe her?!! That's no excuse at all!!!?? I agree with godisone...
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Posted: 17 years ago
for god's sake, will you all stop arguing..geez..😕
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: supermaverick


Now calling Draupadi a who*e is not really a big issue as per the traditional Hindu definition a who*e is one who had slept with four or more men.You can browse through any traditional hindi dictionary to find this. Nowadays you cannot call anybody a who*e even if she has had 100 partners before. But you cannot apply modern standards to judge Mahabharata.



u asked me to be objective. u must have heard a saying that there is exception to every general rule.
Being Sati means being being honest towards the institution of marriage n being pure from both body n mind. Draupadi's marrage with 5 pandavs was predestined. i hve doubt if u have read Mahabharat throughly or not. If u have read then u must be knowing that it was beyond her will n her marriage with 5 pandavs was predestined. if u dont know that story do tell me. for the time being I dont want to lenghten my post

A wh*** is one who has relation with more that one man for lust. She didn't married them for lust. she did'nt stepped out of marital relationship. They were lawfully married to her. Purity of mind is most important to be sati n she had that

When pandavs were exiled she cud have easily to choose to live in Lord Krishna's palace as Subhadra did. But she was dutiful wife she followed pandavs to live the tough life of forest. Lord Surya(sun) gave akshay paatra to Yudhistir when they were exiled on the condition that th Akshay paatra will yield food cooked in it to unlimited extent but when female head of the family (ie draupadi) will take out of it fodd for herself it wud yeild no more for that particular day. Draupadi used to cook food in it every day during exile n used to eat last at night after feeding everyone including guests, sages, nearby village kids. She use to eat only once a day after giving food to everyone. its tough for a queen to led such tough life of sacrifice. if she were a whore she wud have accepted the offer o Duuryodhan n karna to be their wife to lead a luxorious life. But she always followed her Dharma n was truthful n dutiful towards her husbands

if u still cant differntiate between a whore n Draupadi I hav nothing to say. U r entilted to have ur opinion
Edited by coolpurvi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: supermaverick


I find no mention in Mahabharat that it was implied that Dhritarashtra commanded Yudhisthir to gamble Draupadi or even Indraprastha. When Draupadi questioned Dhritarashtra he answered her that Yudhisthir didnot ask for his permission to do so, hence was himself answerable. Yudhisthir was a known Juwari himself and couldnot leave the dyutkrida to save his own pride and obsession more than anything.
You can't hide this fact under the guise of dharma. There is no bigger dharma than to protect your wife.



Invitation was sent in Drhitaraasta's name. There was convention a true warrior shud always accept the challange of Yudhha n Dyuta (gamble). that's way he did so. I agree it was his weakness.Yudhistir had knowledge but he was very bhola bhala by nature n was not that clever. But this doesnt justify those conspirators
Edited by coolpurvi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: godisone

Insulting anyone is a sin, even insulting those who are sinners. One should see God in everyone. This is what it says in the Bhagavat-Gita, and that is why I am not going to speak insultingly to you, or else, I would have called you some pretty interesting words.
Do you know our Hindu scriptures? Where in the world is it written that Draupadi was a whore? And Lord Krishna never ever reprimanded Draupadi for whatever you said. She was a pure woman, a pativrata. Anyway, I've been through this soooo many times with other people that I'm honestly bored of explaining.
Bhishma was the son of Ganga Devi, the purest river in the world. No child of Ganga's can ever be a sinner. And why are you making up stuff that Shri Krishna said? Shri Krishna said after the Mahabharata war that while Bhishma was standing, there was no place for unethics or rule-breaking, because that's how sinless and pure he was. Without Bhishma, it was possible for the Pandavas to defeat the Kauravas, but with Bhishma, it was impossible. Bhishma was a great pure valiant warrior, and you are honestly the only person who thinks he is sunful. Bhishma was never sinful, even by Shri Krishna's standards. And kidnapping a woman from a swayamvara did not make someone sinful. Swayamvara's generally ended in battles, and as Bhishma fairly defeated all the kings in Amba, Ambika, and Ambalika's Swayamvara, he attained victory, not sin. Sheesh, understand the actions of MB characters before making judgments!
No matter how much discussions go on or how many times people explain to people like you, you will always call the Pandavas weak or stupid, or Draupadi a whore. After all, in this Kali-Yug age, good people appear weak and stupid to people like you and sinful people appear strong and virtuous. Tis' the mahima of the age, and no one, not even God, can change your minds. Why should we try then? People will bear the fruits of the actions sooner or later, so it will only be a time waste trying to explain to people like you.
I have one message for everyone else. Please ignore posts like this. Don't respond to them. People like this person don't understand that Dharma is the highest strength a person has. People like this think that outward strength is what makes someone a sinner or virtuous. People like this think it is alright to wag their tongues the way they want against Supreme beings such as Shri Krishna or Shri Rama, which is a grave sin. It is due to people like this that the images of people in our puranas are changing. During my parents and grandparents times, it was thought scandalous and extremely sinful to say anything against the Dharma people in puranas, but now it is perfectly okay in our society. In the future, I suppose Duryodhana and Shakuni will be called virtuous while the Pandavas and Draupadi will be labelled sinful.
When it comes to analyzing characters in puranas, a certain form of respect should be maintained, and one should not be allowed to let their tongue fly the way they want to. Have some self control when talking about Puranic characters. The words of Shri Rama and Shri Krishna in the Ramayana and Mahabharata should be taken as final command, and that's it. Dont' try to find fault with them, as they are Gods who came to Earth to set an example for us. Learn from them. Stop being rebels.

👏 very well said lalitha..i agree with every word of yours....this is the mahima of this yug..those who suffer and those who are righteous are considered stupid..these people don't know the epics, the puranas, our religion our ethics, yet they r here in the MB forum...How did they understand Karna if they could not understand Shri Krishna and Pandavas? 😡 tht's one question which is wandering in my mind.
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: coolpurvi


u asked me to be objective. u must have heard a saying that there is exception to every general rule.
Being Sati means being being honest towards the institution of marriage n being pure from both body n mind. Draupadi's marrage with 5 pandavs was predestined. i hve doubt if u have read Mahabharat throughly or not. If u have read then u must be knowing that it was beyond her will n her marriage with 5 pandavs was predestined. if u dont know that story do tell me. for the time being I dont want to lenghten my post

A wh*** is one who has relation with more that one man for lust. She didn't married them for lust. she did'nt stepped out of marital relationship. They were lawfully married to her. Purity of mind is most important to be sati n she had that

When pandavs were exiled she cud have easily to choose to live in Lord Krishna's palace as Subhadra did. But she was dutiful wife she followed pandavs to live the tough life of forest. Lord Surya(sun) gave akshay paatra to Yudhistir when they were exiled on the condition that th Akshay paatra will yield food cooked in it to unlimited extent but when female head of the family (ie draupadi) will take out of it fodd for herself it wud yeild no more for that particular day. Draupadi used to cook food in it every day during exile n used to eat last at night after feeding everyone including guests, sages, nearby village kids. She use to eat only once a day after giving food to everyone. its tough for a queen to led such tough life of sacrifice. if she were a whore she wud have accepted the offer o Duuryodhan n karna to be their wife to lead a luxorious life. But she always followed her Dharma n was truthful n dutiful towards her husbands

if u still cant differntiate between a whore n Draupadi I hav nothing to say. U r entilted to have ur opinion



I would never say that Draupadi was lustful or had a loose character. However I was only defending Karna as the word that he used might be arguably right on a technicality.

I agree that Draupadi suffered a lot than other women of her time. Vastraharan, Vanavas, Keechaka, Jayadrath, being a slave(Shairandri) during Agyatvaas, killing of all her sons by Ashwathama etc. etc.
But it is also true that she was arrogant, willing to insult others, unwilling to forgive and seeking bloody revenge. That is not ideal characteristic.
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: supermaverick



I find no mention in Mahabharat that it was implied that Dhritarashtra commanded Yudhisthir to gamble Draupadi or even Indraprastha. When Draupadi questioned Dhritarashtra he answered her that Yudhisthir didnot ask for his permission to do so, hence was himself answerable. Yudhisthir was a known Juwari himself and couldnot leave the dyutkrida to save his own pride and obsession more than anything.
You can't hide this fact under the guise of dharma. There is no bigger dharma than to protect your wife.

An invitation to gamble is the same thing as a command, when coming from a father figure. When Duryodhan saw the Maya Sabha in Indraprastha, he became jealous of his cousins' wealth and success and went to his father, complaining that he felt inferior to his cousins. Dhritarastra couldn't bear to see his son unhappy, and asked him what he could do to make him happy. Duryodhan told his father that he wanted a sabha to rival the one of his cousins, and to challenge his cousins to a dice game, so that their wealth can become his, and their maya sabha his. Dhritarastra agreed and after the sabha for Duryodhan was completed, he sent an invitation to the Pandavas to come there for a "friendly" game of dice. The Pandavas were immediately suspicious, and Yudhisthira himself said a dice game never ends in a friendly way, however it starts, and that surely something untoward will happen if they go to Hastinapura, but Yudhisthira had made a vow when becoming emperor of the world that he will always obey the commands of his elders and never seek the enmity of others, thus earning him the title, 'Ajatashatru'.
To obey the command of Dhritarastra, the Pandavas went to Hastinapura, and Yudhisthira gambled with Shakuni. Yudhisthira was beyond materialistic feelings like that of Kama and Artha.
I can vouch for the truth of this story from Veda Vyasa's original Mahabharata book.
You're right. A man's highest Dharma is to protect his wife, but not a king's. A King's highest Dharma lies in the welfare of his people and the obeying of his elders. Prabhu Shri Ram himself exiled Sita Mata to the forest for no wrong of hers, because of the praja, and Yudhisthira lost Draupadi in the dice game because he had to follow Dhritarastra's commandment. Until the old king commanded it, neither Shakuni nor Yudhisthira could stop the game.
Anyway, you are entitled to your opinions, and if the Pandavs are weak cheaters for you, then so be it. No one can change your mind, and nothing you say will change mine. What's the use of arguing? It's only wasting forum space.
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Posted: 17 years ago
well said charu di, lallitha di and purvi di👏👏
i wont speak anything ... if they wont listen to what you said they won't listen to anything else😡
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: supermaverick



I would never say that Draupadi was lustful or had a loose character. However I was only defending Karna as the word that he used might be arguably right on a technicality.

I agree that Draupadi suffered a lot than other women of her time. Vastraharan, Vanavas, Keechaka, Jayadrath, being a slave(Shairandri) during Agyatvaas, killing of all her sons by Ashwathama etc. etc.
But it is also true that she was arrogant, willing to insult others, unwilling to forgive and seeking bloody revenge. That is not ideal characteristic.



sanskrit writers have said that all women r "GOWMUKHI VYAGHRA"-- they r soft like cow but there is a lioness hidden inside every women which may come out if u harass her or torture her. Same happened with her.

Edited by coolpurvi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: coolpurvi


u asked me to be objective. u must have heard a saying that there is exception to every general rule.
Being Sati means being being honest towards the institution of marriage n being pure from both body n mind. Draupadi's marrage with 5 pandavs was predestined. i hve doubt if u have read Mahabharat throughly or not. If u have read then u must be knowing that it was beyond her will n her marriage with 5 pandavs was predestined. if u dont know that story do tell me. for the time being I dont want to lenghten my post

A wh*** is one who has relation with more that one man for lust. She didn't married them for lust. she did'nt stepped out of marital relationship. They were lawfully married to her. Purity of mind is most important to be sati n she had that

When pandavs were exiled she cud have easily to choose to live in Lord Krishna's palace as Subhadra did. But she was dutiful wife she followed pandavs to live the tough life of forest. Lord Surya(sun) gave akshay paatra to Yudhistir when they were exiled on the condition that th Akshay paatra will yield food cooked in it to unlimited extent but when female head of the family (ie draupadi) will take out of it fodd for herself it wud yeild no more for that particular day. Draupadi used to cook food in it every day during exile n used to eat last at night after feeding everyone including guests, sages, nearby village kids. She use to eat only once a day after giving food to everyone. its tough for a queen to led such tough life of sacrifice. if she were a whore she wud have accepted the offer o Duuryodhan n karna to be their wife to lead a luxorious life. But she always followed her Dharma n was truthful n dutiful towards her husbands

if u still cant differntiate between a whore n Draupadi I hav nothing to say. U r entilted to have ur opinion

exactly!!
@mr. super... She was lawfully wedded to the 5 pandavas. then how can anyone use this word for her? and what is ur definition of whore? a lady who has slept with less than 4 men is not a whore? EVERYBODY in Mahabharat had more than 1 wife so what words do you have for THEM? That's why you're supporting Karna coz you're of the same opinion as him...... obviously then in ur opinion Duryodhan and Shakuni must also be nice people right
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