Discuss-Old Is Gold...True or False...... - Page 3

Originally posted by: hira_786

First of all gr8 post autumn 👏 n yeh old is realli Gold 😛 no1 can act lyke apu n sur..abhi yeh new characters kia dhamak kertein hain ke tht will make us liking them..we hav to wait n see..lekin from my point of view der's no1 in dis world who can even act a bit like apu n sur..so jus gud luck to dem..


lotssa luv:Hira 😛

Thanks Hira... Of course all the best to them both....😊

Originally posted by: ahem_brahmasmi

Whatever FF we write...if it doesn't catch the interest of the members here...we can stop continuing it. But Shreyas cannot suddenly stop the serial..because for them the serial is their job..and their bread and butter. They have to organise for the setting of the serial, the costumes, dialogues, and look at every part of the serial-making. So there is a huge pressure on them and when there is pressure on mind...creativity won't be a free-flowing river like that of the FF writers on our forum.

Originally posted by: thesaint148

Beautiful post autumn ...

They say old is gold, but to me it depends what is the definition of old in a particular scenario. if comparisons lead to a better analysis of old, than old surely is gold, but not always.

for me always Old will be gold. As old is always valuable...is full of good values. Nowadays the world is getting a fickle place to be in. Blame it on generation gap.... Its going too fast...too too fast. Well I have to live in this world, hence hanging on following the new rules....😃

having said that, i am still awed by what happened in kaajjal. When they couldnt control the already done damage earlier, what exactly are they expecting out of this reincarnation track. this is hillarious. i would have respected them and given them my aproval if they had ended the show on a happy DK note and staretd a new show. But i still believe its too early to pass a judgement. though in my heart i will always miss DK and will not be able to picture anyone else in their shoes other than apu/sur.

i would also like to comment on priya's post. very very well said priya. i wnjoyed reading it, though i still think shreay's are to be blamed for all this. pressures are same for all and everyone. then why is it that only shreya lost it. additionally, i dont think we can compare ourselves with the production house. one of the reasons for this is, we are not professionals and they are, and that is why they get adds worth millions of rupees etc. to do their job. well if they cant do their job well, than whats the point. So they being professionals, it is theor job to try to do well in their field of expertise. i also dont think that we can let them go by saying they have pressures. well, kaajjal was their baby, like any other show, and a parents never leaves one baby and nurture the other.for them all are equal and needs nourishment and care.

now the FFs, i agree that in our FF we go over the board, but who is asking them to show physical scenes between the lead roles. i dont think we ever ask that. we just say think and make a story that could depict passion and love which was the essence of this show.

Kashish, however overboard we do go, at least I had never expected them to do so. I only wished they could show us basic storyline stuff of our FF. take some ideas with so many good tracks....Don't end or kill DK. I am against this re-incarnation track. Period.

they get paid for it, they make money out of it - at our expense. so it is their responsibility to think hard and bring a better story, even if they have to hire new writers. We dont care. and if they cant do this, they better leave the business. for this is business and only the strongest can survive.

Yes I agree. Thats their job.... It is expected of them when they are in this business....

Thanks Kashish for replying. Feels good to be able to prove viewpoints and still be at the same level...sharing on base....DK😳😊

Originally posted by: autumnleaf

brahmi...first of all thanks for your reply. Always love your sane analysis..and its so impartial, yet you are an ardent Apu fan. Thats what I like to read about your posts. You sure would as Sammy once said, make a brilliant editor...superb potential.

Autumn, Thanks for those compliments which you gave me and it surely makes me feel that I do have some potential in me. Waise editor? Hailaa, ye kya keh diya aapne?😆

Psssttt are you sure you are not associated with shreyas? 😆

Autumn dear😉 if I were associated with Shreyas do you feel....Apu would even have thought to quit the serial?😆

Surely I am the kind of person who would like to take a public review and perhaps even if I were a member of Shreyas production I would've landed up on IF and perhaps even tried to understand the feelings of the viewers of the show. That is what I feel Shreyas should really have done and taken into account.. opinions and requests of the viewers like Zareen who sent so many e-mails to them, hai ke nahi?😳

Jokes apart, I agree with you only to a certain extent. Yes shreyas is not to blame entirely. 20-20 did a good job creating it. But then the original creation still belobged to Kaacon. and then Shreya also ruined the basic storyline....this story was about a girl dreaming of finding her raajkumaar and whcih she did. i did not expect it to go beyond that, but they did pull it....Maybe not as efficiently, but nevertheless they tried. Okay appreciate that, but then here comes major mistakes.

Autumn...One reason of this maybe that the serial from the beginning was not getting huge trps and so the twenty twenty production people couldn't afford to do the rest of the production work and handed over the reins to Shreyas.😆

Shreyas were already going through monetary problems because of ELAS and other serials which were not doing that good. They took it up perhaps with the expectation that with such a good star cast with great onscreen chemistry...they will be able to earn some money using them and maybe they will utilize their own writers to build up trps. But then they were not too keen on the storyline going like it had been going when 20-20 was doing the show and wanted to bring improvisations into it which ruined the storyline.😕

They did not keep up with the original track of it being a fairytale. They tried to keep the TRP and staying in the mainstream in mind and thats where the downfall began.... So now here comes the question...they knew well in advance about this downfall...what with Ratiji's exit and the track to be changed drastically...surely they were going off track and knew about it. Hence they also being professionals would surely have known and believe me they are not naive, they do have good sources to find out about public opinion and polls....and stuff like that...so they knew of the displeasure in general.....

Woh kehte haina...too many cooks spoil the broth.😆 The serial switched productionhouse and that is one major drawback because if those who are undertaking the production lack new ideas...or bring in absurd ideas..it would surely cause loss. Shreyas were creative....but not in a good way. They didn't know to drag the romance further, but just felt that bringing in suspense, separations and villains was the best way to drag it. Perhaps that is their logic and surely....that led to the downfall of the serial.😭

Shreyas didn't expect their trps to fall so low...because they seem to be optimists...who even while falling down the tower...thinks that he will be saved at some point or the other and keeps the hope till he hits the ground.😆 Then only does he realise the mistake. They didn't anticipate the downfall...because they felt that Rati ji's exit won't cause much huge loss to the serial...as the lead pair is already there. They then thought that as the romance is lost between DK in the serial...with the exit of Rati ji and Dev kicking Kaajjal out of the house and all...the only way to extend the serial was further by bringing in an ML track and the very innocent Kaajjal being saved by Adi.😆

They were anticipating that once Adi is brought into the serial and with the separation....people would continue to watch the serial...till DK ka milan..and that was one technique which they used to drag the serial. Surely they still feel that the old formula of triangle lovestory will still work...but it didn't. I don't feel they were keen about taking polls and all and maybe they didn't want to spend much money on anything else and even if they knew about the displeasure of audience....they didn't have enough money to incorporate all the characters. They used one Adi's character to reduce their cost of production. Woh kaise?😉 Woh aise...ke...they were able to cut out the characters Satya, Bua, Hottie, Shortie, Karan, Ameesha and reduced the time span of the rest of the characters of Dev, Panna Chachi, Veer, Nandini Bhabhi etc. So that much money is saved, hai ke nahi?😆

Productionhousewaale are not actually artists...they are business people and they are trying to cover their losses or atleast reduce the cost of production. So by bringing in an Adi....they didn't have to pay to many other actors...whose characters were almost erased from the show. Even when Dev meet Kaajjal at Bhadrapur...the only person who keeps in touch is Panna Chachi..that too two minutes phonecall with Dev.😆

Then for the marriage scene...they brought in only a few of the old characters and perhaps those who did the roles of Adi, his mom and sis...they took only minimum amount as remuneration from them...while rest of the cast were quite established actors...so in a way...they were trying to cover their losses.😆

For them audience ki pleasure, displeasure ka koi ehmiyath nahi hai...for them what is important is that they should reduce the cost of production and somehow try to raise trps to cover all the losses that they have incurred from other serials too.😆

My point is at this point they could have decided on a new angle...change the serial's name...and track and give us a happy ending...Blend the serials as if showing small stories...such beautiful fairy tale stories...everybody would have been happy. Here no extra costs were involved...DK would have lived and everything would have been smooth. This is what I am raving. I think Sharmii too posted a post saying, why not a different serial altogether...Just a continuation of a similar love story track with 2 different such lovers like DK..Start fresh...

Why kill DK? Period.

Surely Autumn, I agree with you on that...but by the time they were trying to cover the losses and even messed up the storyline of the serial and brought in new entries....our lead hero Apu and heroine Sur has almost lost interest in the serial and the romance was totally killed. So Shreyas didn't know how to bring back the old love story track and the romance back. Because of that the lead actors expressed their interest to quit. Kaccoon maybe didn't want her serial to end so fast just because of Apu and Sur...it could be her ego.😛

I feel that perhaps she is quite an egoistic person...because she didn't even pay heed to the words of Zareen or other Kaajjalians who had e-mailed her with a lot of requests. But she doesn't want to take any opinions and want to make the serial move according to her own wish. So that I feel led to the serial losing all its charisma and as Apu-Sur lost interest and decided to quit....then Kaccoon and Shreyas didn't have any other way to stretch the serial...than to bring in reincarnation track. 😕

By the time, the Kaajjalians came to know about introduction of reincarnation track....many of our friends here sent e-mails. But I feel that by then Apu-Sur was out of the show and new actors may have acted shooting too. After the contract has been made....even if they come to know about what the public wants....they can't do anything about it. So now surely they are in a fix and only time will prove....if their decision was right or wrong.😆😛

Ahhh I loved this discussion brahmi, thank you for posting this. Very valuable and I respect and understand your view point, but this is mine.

I hope I have been able to state my viewpoint. I don't have skills like yours to explain at length...... 😊

Autumn, I really respect your ideas and you are a really logical person. I surely agree with you on most of the points you mentioned and yes I too love discussions with you. You don't to give lengthy explanations to prove the point....what you said it is to the point and really clear. Waise I have a really bad quality of writing things in a lengthy way with explanations and all. Buri aadat hai...badalni padegi. Warna jo padh rahe hai..woh bore ho jaayenge.😆😛