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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well, I wanted to make this post for so long now, but didn't feel like doing it. We've all been debating on IP's character n there r few of us who sympathize with him. My perspective is different than most of us here and I would like to put it down, why I feel IP is no less than DB in many ways.

All we know abt IP-DB Love story is that it didn't start on a good note. 🤢 Shalu was a simple village girl who was happy in her world. IP an underworld don, bumped into Shalu...LUSTED for her. (I wud say 'Lust' n NOT 'Love' based on his behavior with Shalu at that time). IP forcibly picked up Shalu from her village to marry her...against Shalu's wish. She hated him initially n came to know he's involved in all illegal activities, but as fate wud've it..she fell in Love with IP. But IP's obsession, psychotic behavior n whipping broke Shalu's heart 💔 and made her life living hell..!! She decided to eliminate this IP guy n hatched a plan with Mishraji n Mishrain. It's another thing, how foolish that plan was n how stupidly it was executed...!! 🤢 IP is now gone from picture..!! And now here comes the ugly part...DB lusting for Prithvi.. 🤢 🤢 trying to make him look like her supposedly dead-husband IP...Why ? 😲 Nobody knows why..!! Then IP comes back from dead 😲...and then IP-Prithvi confusion arises. 😡 Now IP playing a game with Shalu and seeking revenge for his dead brother n murder attempt on him ? And How ? 😲 By inflicting more pain on the already tortured poor soul Prithvi 😕 n separating him from his family n Love 😲...Remember, IP is doing all this for teaching a good lesson to Shalu Pandey !! 😕 Shalu never seemed to have any brains 😡...and IP is trying to play brain games with Shalu n challengewa her ? 😲 Really ? 😲 Now for a change, he's not LUSTING for Meera yet he falls in LOVE n is yearning for True Love from someone else's wife ? 😳 How ? By trying to kill the husband n taking his place, for whatever reason it is. Ab poori Ravan katha sunne ke baad...yeh mat pooch na ki shoorpanakha, raavan ki kya lagti hai...???? 🤢 😃

Also I wud like to point out one movie "Anjaam" of SRK n Madhuri, where Madhuri kills SRK in the end. SRK makes Madhuri's life a living hell..killing anyone n everyone who comes in his way..The female lead goes thru a lot before she decides to kill him to seek revenge...and She does it in the End. Just becoz the female lead kills the guy, does it make her the bad person and this guy a victim ?? A BIG NO. Just becoz IP is now a changed man..which I highly doubt..does it make him a better person than Shalu. NO. Did Shalu deserve any of those whippings by IP..BIG NO. Nobody in this world deserves to be abused or whipped. PERIOD...And since many people hate DB for what she's doing today...still doesn't make them declare...'she deserved to be treated that way by IP then, becoz she has lusted for a married man now'. 😆 Did IP ever sincerely Love Shalu...that he's yearning for True Love now...??? BIG NO. If he's really yearning for True Love, he should regret for all his wrong doings n try to rectify them as much as he can..Not do the same wrong things and expect sympathy. NO. Does DB n IP deserve a second chance...YES but only if they mend their ways..!! DB's behavior today is no less than what IP used to be at one point. I wud say, DB today is what IP has made her to be n few of her wrong choices as well..!! If DB is lusting for a married man...IP is equally responsible for pushing her to be like that. If IP is in this mess n sorry state today..it's purely becoz of his selfishness, obsession n wrong choices in his life. So I've ZERO sympathy for both these characters...irrespective of who's playing those characters...even if it's bestest of the bestest in TV world today, it doesn't matter to me.

I apologize for the long post. 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lovely post. Im not sure why they are now trying to make IP a saviour of the whole RK clan. Prithvi gets punished for no apparent fault of his...well, his fault was to love his wife and stand up for honesty I guess. Now we have a wife beating maniac getting up, close & personal with a woman whose husband he killed. Disgusting as hell. No wonder women are not respected in India. Just reflects the sorry state of our society where women have no power to stand up for their own honor. This sh!t is dished out by a woman writer too...SAD.

Before someone jumps all over this post and talks about- its just a show. .please note that Im quite aware of it. I have no issues with people liking "hot" AdNi or IP. I just hate the brainless pathetic plot.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice post Siri.

I know that IP is a bad guy like DB or maybe worst. The change in his life was very fast so that no one can believe it. Meera's speach and his brother's memories was a bad idea to make that change in his life .
But I find these illogical happenings in the serial funny, coz I am used to Indian movies , Anjam was one of my favs . I like those unbelievable tracks which had twists and turns .

Now IP is trying to be a good guy. Remember he didn't kill Prithvi to take his wife , he didn't see her face to face yet.
Prithvi jumped on him in that fight , so that was an accident.
By helping Meera and falling in love with her and her family IP is trying to clean his dirty life.
That is a romantic idea , as you say Siri everybody deserves a second chance. But they snho.uld mind their ways. IP is trying 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Monalika - I had always believed that we r nobody to decide Who 'Deserves' What in this world..!! And as u said, we all know that we r watching a show. Yes, u r right...It's really sad to see a woman come up with a character like Shalu...which not only shows women in poor light...but also gives wrong message to viewers. MYP n her team have only entangled us viewers with more confusion on the pretext of improving the storyline. The way story is digressing each day...it's hard to make out head from tail. Had enough of IP n his dard...badla...chupa-chupi...Not interested. 🤢 We r here to see Prithvi's Junoon for Meera n vice versa..and not any aira gaira's betrayal ki kahani.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: awida

Nice post Siri.

I know that IP is a bad guy like DB or maybe worst. The change in his life was very fast so that no one can believe it. Meera's speach and his brother's memories was a bad idea to make that change in his life .
But I find these illogical happenings in the serial funny, coz I am used to Indian movies , Anjam was one of my favs . I like those unbelievable tracks which had twists and turns .

Now IP is trying to be a good guy. Remember he didn't kill Prithvi to take his wife , he didn't see her face to face yet.
Prithvi jumped on him in that fight , so that was an accident.
By helping Meera and falling in love with her and her family IP is trying to clean his dirty life.
That is a romantic idea , as you say Siri everybody deserves a second chance. But they snho.uld mind their ways. IP is trying 😃



Awida - I agree IP didn't kill Prithvi to take Meera...But his intentions were not good either. He put Hudda to task to find out more details abt Meera...locked up Prithvi. By the way IP knows that Prithvi is being trapped by his wife Shalu just becoz she lusts for him...!! So if he's seeking revenge on Shalu, he should make Prithvi his ally n not enemy...But instead he framed Prithvi for all his crimes..which is also why I feel that this guy is creepy n not honest. I still cudn't understand why Lallanwa was killed when he was being so loyal to IP...or is it somebody else who killed him and will be revealed soon..! Even IP-Prithvi fight made no sense..we didn't see a remorseful IP so far..Nor did we see him get comfortable with Meera except few recent ones. With the way, Meera trusts him to be her husband Prithvi...IP can literally do Anything to Meera..but he's not..Why? I don't think it's becoz of his remorse or anything becoz we've not seen that aspect...not even a monologue...He's confused with the mess going on or more focussed on how to bring DB's downfall.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well said Siri and Monalika. No one is making judgement calls on who deserves who and what. But to say IP is trying to be better - how? By lying and fooling Prithvi's family and Meera into believing he is Prithvi as he is his doppelganger? How does that make him mend his ways? If he feels guilt and wants to make amends let him accept his identity and then stand by Prithvi's family and Meera. And if it is a matter of revenge frm DB - is he scared of her? Is he afraid. A man who is having money to throw around at Hudda and who has his faithful pillas ready to do his bidding!! And isnt he a land mafia don? Why is he asking Hudda to find him a place for the khannas. As I have said time and time again, I would have respected this man if he had maintained his distance with Meera knwing she is another man's wife and loves her husband totally. Wanting to live the life of another just becoz one looks exactly like him and enjoy all the good parts of the other man's life just becoz one had it bad does not make that person 'trying to mend their ways' and that is why I say IP is not an honorable man and neither can he ever be.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: cooldreams



<font color="#0000FF" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Awida - I agree IP didn't kill Prithvi to take Meera...But his intentions were not good either. He put Hudda to task to find out more details abt Meera...locked up Prithvi. By the way IP knows that Prithvi is being trapped by his wife Shalu just becoz she lusts for him...!! So if he's seeking revenge on Shalu, he should make Prithvi his ally n not enemy...But instead he framed Prithvi for all his crimes..which is also why I feel that this guy is creepy n not honest. I still cudn't understand why Lallanwa was killed when he was being so loyal to IP...or is it somebody else who killed him and will be revealed soon..! Even IP-Prithvi fight made no sense..we didn't see a remorseful IP so far..Nor did we see him get comfortable with Meera except few recent ones. With the way, Meera trusts him to be her husband Prithvi...IP can literally do Anything to Meera..but he's not..Why? I don't think it's becoz of his remorse or anything becoz we've not seen that aspect...not even a monologue...He's confused with the mess going on or more focussed on how to bring DB's downfall. </font>

Going by what I understand of human psychology Siri he is not tried anything with Meera as he knws his lie will be caught and he is preparing the base to continue living Prithvi's life by showing his having mended his ways. But a leopard can never change its spots and IP can never change his basic nature of dishonesty and lack of honor. I just hope Meera has taken on Prithvi's ideology that a lie can never help a person and tells IP's truth to both RK and daadi instead of continuing with her own attitude to lying so that they are not plunged in despair.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Adianasr- I agree. What kind of a cheapskate gets close to another mans's wife on the pretext of helping her? A man without integrity is the biggest loser...one I shall never respect. Dumba$$ CVs can never come up with anything positive or original.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Thnx for the post as I have not seen previous episodes, so now I finally got the BG details of this whole Shalu-IP saga.😊

Most of the times the actions and reactions of the characters are difficult to comprehend, especially if the story deviates soo much from where it started.

Just hope that dey bring the track to its proper logical (I know Indian soaps and logic are oxymororns😉) conclusion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Going by what I understand of human psychology Siri he is not tried anything with Meera as he knws his lie will be caught and he is preparing the base to continue living Prithvi's life by showing his having mended his ways. But a leopard can never change its spots and IP can never change his basic nature of dishonesty and lack of honor. I just hope Meera has taken on Prithvi's ideology that a lie can never help a person and tells IP's truth to both RK and daadi instead of continuing with her own attitude to lying so that they are not plunged in despair.


Adiana - DB's behavior, none of us here have found her endearing...and there's no debate on that. We unanimously have hated her...But when we came to IP..there were lot of differences..So far we've NOT watched a scene where IP was remorseful after attacking Prithvi...😡😲 Yes there was an article but we've NOT seen that happen on the show. So it's just an Assumption to think it's IP's remorse that's making him take care of Khannas n Meera...🥱 🥱😲. IP always looked confused...Don't know if he's scared of getting caught..or too many things going on in his mind..or his guilt...or whatever the reason might be. 🤢 Some of us believe that it was Prithvi who attacked IP and he accidentally fell of the cliff...😆 😆 Don't we guys remember, Prithvi was put in that dungeon for a week by IP...!! How can anybody miss that small detail. 😡 🤢 And Prithvi attacking IP is obvious...But I did feel Prithvi cud've waited n watched IP's moves before reacting. Hence we don't know if IP is remorseful n trying to be a good man...n helping out Khannas for what reason ? And even in my earlier replies, I mentioned many times...it's how the characters are written with little or NO conviction..I don't think the actors have underplayed it...I blame the PH n CVs for coming up with a nonsensical track n senseless characters. Let's hope Lakhan brings in some Oxygen to the already in ICU Junoon...IP n DB get out of the show as soon as possible.

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