Jodha Akbar 170-174: The magic of Camelot - Page 7

Originally posted by: amina1

Well prem this empirer has no cloths sounnds god to me and at last jodha came as a saviour and saved him from all ill maham made him cruel and jodha made him great end of story

Originally posted by: myviewprem

I usually do not read forum posts as am busy but had to reply on this one

I have forgotten who wanted to be on pilgrimage jodha or jalal. Anyways to start off a King lives in rich palaces has rarely any idea of what his citizens face in day to day life. So the best way to know what troubles they face is to become one.

The dakka scene troubles Akbar many times on this journey i do not know why? Has not jodha proved her love by drinking poison for him. Yes all life he will be scared to make first move after that dakka but then he has to forgive her and not raise this point again and again. I think it looks very akwards for jodha and very non trusting of jalla after what jodha did for him makes him look ungrateful.

The citizens seem to be warming up to their young emperor and your rajputh princess love story. They are being compared to satyavan and savitri. And Akbar gave odha adilyon ki rani title. Jodha is adiyal but in lesser way and it does not harm others till now but Akbar oh my God he is dumb adiyal and lands others life in trouble.

But this time Akbar took an entourage of maids and body gaurds only to be stopped by the Subedhar or whatever of a city for pilgrimage tax or teerth kar. Now here i am surprised how does Akbar not know his own rules - does that not prove he is lax and incompetent. Any King has to read or know his own rules of land first else how shall he better them or correct them.

This also shows that Akbar is so overshaowed by Maham in administration. Its like the secretary knows more than the boss and its tough to get through the secretary than the boss. So Maham and others have convinently not brought any issues which citizens face in front of Akbar and he too has been lax and enjoying royal life. Time to wake up Shahenshah.

Akbar is shocked to know the truth and refuses to accept its his law so obiviously the gaurds will be angry he is questioning their emperor and want to punish him. Luckily Jodha had jewels to barter for his release. But why did they forget poor maids and gaurds in lock up. That is worst part of serial scenes and story was always left incomplete or ended abruptly. Later on after this track i thought Akbar knows about pilgrimage tax and shall cancel it after reaching agra he and jodha conveniently forgot that part.

Best part was the jail scene between another thief and Akbar- he feels Akbar has stolen Jodha and run off and hence caught. 😆 But honestly Akbar ne bahut papad behele hain jodha ko pane ke liye first Sharifu did war and captured her brothers, Sharifu was eyeing jodha but Akbar literally snatched her from him, Akbar left all her brothers and returned all loot ka maal, Akbar married off Sukanya and gave away his fort.

Tere pyar main kya kya na bana Jodha kabhi saudayi kabhi teda

Tere pyar main kya kya na koya Jodha kabhi fort kabhi izzat(in Shivani case)

Tere deewangi main kya kya mila mujhe Jodha kabhi dakka kabhi bashan

Tere peeche peeche jakkar kya kya na hua Jodha mujhe kabhi abul mali(ka attack) kabhi Sharifu(ki dushmani)

Tere baat na mankar kya kya na karna mujhe Jodha kabhi kali ka peecha kabhi Surajmal ka peecha

Once again, I want to express my gratitude for the amazingly interesting, intelligent and poetic review and my admiration for your fortitude! I really hope that the pain will decrease and you will be able to get a breather.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Zhanna,

I can see that you have effortlessly got to the main reason for this post of mine being so very enjoyable: it is perhaps my happiest post in the whole series of my Jodha Akbar analyses. It is not an analysis as much as it is a celebration of Jalal-Jodha as Badal and Kajri. And that feeling shines thru the whole of this 3 parter, and is immediately communicated to the reader.

It was a major effort given the present state of my right hand and arm, but I think it was worth it seeing the amount of pleasure it has given you all.

I loved the passages in your comments that I have put in blue. Yes, it is gentle and soothing like the sound of faraway music, and yes, I was afraid, even as I wrote the original posts in February 2014 (they have been partially rewritten here) that this new Jodha-Kajri ko meri hi nazar na lag jaye ( that my own pleasure at the this new Jodha-Kajri might cast an evil eye on her), and that was exactly what happened, alas!

I think this is tormented by many fans of JA: HOW with such amazing actors, they foolishly killed not only a delightful story that sets the right tone, can serve as a model relationship of love between man and woman, but slaughtered "the goose that lays the golden eggs."

On this forum,I the first time began to read the FF, because of which my daughter sharply condemned me ... 😃 These FF, of course, very different, but there is a very, very interesting.And by the way, it proves once again, amazing magnetism JA of the first team and his brilliant main actors.But I liked the Jodha from the new novel autor ndi.anggraeni81 "His Choosen Queen" . There Jodha is able not to be rude to her Emperor and her husband... 😊 She has a calm dignity and calm confidence.

As for Jalal disrespecting women, that is simply not true, and there is not a single instance of this in the whole show. Jodha first accuses him, but not to his face, of this because, I think, she believes that he personally authorised and approved the attempted kidnapping of Moti by his soldiers and other such outrages about which she must have heard as gossip. That is why, as I have noted at the end of Part 1, in the PS, the pilgrimage tax business must have been an eye-opener for Jodha.

Thank you! I needed this explanation. What happened afterwards - is clear. But I was surprised by these allegations of Jodha, before meeting with Jalal. Accusations without facts.

She says that to him during the Shivani marriage track, when she is contrasting Jalal with Mirza Hakim to Jalal's disadvantage. Then, I think she means his humiliating her publicly by asking her to leave the Tansen concert at which Benazir is first introduced to the court, and follow up instances during her returning the baajuband, and during his supposed dalliance with Benazir. I can think of nothing else.

As for your remark about polygamy, I do not know. It is all a question of conditioning and of the extent to which a wife is possessive and ambitious. In those days, it was the norm, and I am sure most wives would have learnt to accept it and deal with it gracefully.

Zhanna, this is about as much as I can do for today, for my fingers are screaming for a halt. I shall have to tackle the rest of my responses tomorrow. But I am very pleased to have you around again; I have missed you!

Shyamala Di

I missed you too! Honestly, I didn't return to the forum, I "crawled". We have a hopping change in temperature. From - 26 C to -2 C. And all this for 8-10 hours. My head started hurting strongly so I had to surrender to the doctors and to prick extremely unpleasant injections. But they help, and head can endure. 😃

Thank you for your kind and cordial relation! Not only for the wonderful reviews, and such interesting discussions afterwards! And always very interesting persons in your topics! I really like when I must "to reach" the interlocutor.

And no, I am not going into anything else from that night: neither the frantic Ruqaiya, so pathetically ill-equipped to tackle what is soon going to hit her, nor her stormy encounter with Mahaam, nor even the congregation in Jodha's rooms with Mirza Hakim and Mansingh, and definitely not that sleazy bit with a creepy Sharifuddin. One does not sully fairy dust with chunaand muck.

Thank you for treating this episode with so much love and caring and not allowing the mucking up with the screeching of Ruqaiyya & scheming of Maham featuring inyour analysis. This episode was what hooked me completely to the serial. I still watch it for the pleasure it gives me to watch a very gently romance unfurling with small facial nuances from both Rajat & Paridhi. One very rarely sees scenes handled with such delicacy.. Reminds me of the last scene in 'Roman Holiday' when Gregory Peck hands over the pack of pictures with Audrey Hepburn the princess gone wild.

When Jodha says ''aur kisike Pati ke samne'...Rajat so well portrayed how he held his control not to show the tide of pleasure rising inside him.

Thank you for sharing that. I had so much pleasure to read your synopsis for the February 2014 episodes.

Communing with each other, for long stretches thru silence that spoke more than words ever could, Jodha and Jalal tangled themselves in gossamer thin, silken strands of longing for each other - strong and acknowledged on his side, nascent and still unacknowledged on hers..so beautifully put...

Thank you for sharing that. I had so much pleasure to read your synopsis

Originally posted by: amina1

But one thing Aunty i couldnt understan have jodha not know sharif was lusting after her,i mean we women do have that instinct😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Yes, my dear, and I have commented on it in one of my earlier posts.

The only possible explanation is that she is so busy do-gooding and seeing everyone but her husband as worthy of her unconditional support that her mental receptor for such vibes has been deactivated.

Amina, I hate the L word, so do not use it on my threads, will you please? Thank you in advance.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sabdabhala

I TOO FIND IT QUITE SURPRISING 😆 AND SHE HAS HAD QUITE A FEW SILENT AASHIQS 😉 - OF COURSE NO ONE AS IN YOUR FACE AS THE LECHEROUS SHARIFUDDIN. THERE WAS KHYBER THE GIANT, THE SETHJI IN THE SICK PEOPLE VILLAGE, SURYABHAN, AND APART FROM SURYABHAN, TO WHOM SHE WAS BETROTHED, SHE WASNT AWARE OF ANYONE 😆

WONDER WHY THE CVS LEFT OUT ADHAM KHAN? 😆 HE SEEMED TO DROOL OVER EVERY FEMALE SPECIMEN THAT MOVED 😆

Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-

@Bold, 🤣🤣

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How could they show adham drooling on jodha - remember at her marriage he was acting as elder brother(fathers place at wedding) to jalal, him lusting on his own younger bahu rani would be akward

But adham did talk nonsense about bakshi once or twice to sharifuddin in jail and other place. I mean he is milk brother of Akbar so is not Bakshi his sister too? How can he talk lustingly about Bakshi?