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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

nice review...after watching this episode the first time two years back, very strangely but I felt pity for both Jo and Jalal...what fate they both really had...

Jo for her cruel fate...the ppl whom she loved, whom she always thought of her own, when the time came they made her the pawn for saving their lives...never bothered what she will have to face...and to think of that era, then yes, it was a pure trade of their daughter , the cost of saving their lives and their position of the state that rightfully belonged to Sujamal...and then the same daughter was dead for them , coz she was traded in a different religion, and so even though Akbar was welcomed in Amer (only as Shehenshah and not as SIL), their own daughter was never really welcomed...so when she knew that she was just like some goods in trade, what expctations she can keep for the person who had bought her in the market of politics?

sorry guys, may be many will feel my words r very harsh, but this is the truth...but then yes, this truth is only for this show by Ekta Kapoor...

the truth is that , real Akbar very well knew that this marriage had made his wife lose her every relation, and so he has always stood up by her side, very firmly...and that was really a good luck of MUZ...

anyway, back to our show...even Jalal's fate is not diff than Jo's...the ppl he so blindly trusts r the real backstabbers...and he is not even aware of it...no wonder he is always committing the mistakes and regretting big time later...and in case of Jo, a complete diff Jalal is seen... he acts first, then thinks and then understands everything...and in this process, he makes her hate him more...poor guy...all the time he is craving for her love, but he is just unable to understand that his own foolish acts and his arrogance will always stand btw them...

even in this episode , he gives her the option of divorce, and says that he is aware that she will be alone all her life after the divorce, but he doesn't understand the major truth, that when he married her , that time itself her fate is sealed and that is stay with him or finish her life...divorce and going back to Amer can never be option for her..(I mean not in reality) but yes, in this show anything can happen.. he is ready to send her back, and even she is ready to go back happily ( it will come in later episodes) ..

it feel like a competition btw both Jo and Jalal to prove who is more dumb and brainless..

.and for this merciless butchering of characters , I always wished, that the law of this country give us freedom that one murder is not punishable act, and many of us would have killed the stupid CVs ... sorry guys, just kidding... don't be so serious...



wow dikshu loved ur take... 👏 well said ...both of dm's fate was sealed together... I have nothing more to say as u have mentioned so well abt akdha' fate and their relationship...actually d cvs really butchered d historical characters to d core... 🥱 how I wished we would have been mr or miss india and becom invisible and strt killing all these cvs who really portrayed such a grt emperor as dumb and brainless... 🥱 😕 but I think its d mentality of our indian cvs and phs to butcher d history and its legends pathetically... 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-

Forgot to mention, but Paridhi was excellent in her convo with Moti. Every emotion portrayed flawlessly. 👏⭐️...The hurt, the pain, the frustration on her destiny...everything. 👏

And, both PariJat were awesome in the first scene. Chemistry simply oozing out. And the way they both turned their back to each other, as soon as they saw each other, was just sooo cute. They are adorable. Very veryyy adorable. 😳


Harshu di, you missed this comment, maybe. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

nice review...after watching this episode the first time two years back, very strangely but I felt pity for both Jo and Jalal...what fate they both really had...

Jo for her cruel fate...the ppl whom she loved, whom she always thought of her own, when the time came they made her the pawn for saving their lives...never bothered what she will have to face...and to think of that era, then yes, it was a pure trade of their daughter , the cost of saving their lives and their position of the state that rightfully belonged to Sujamal...and then the same daughter was dead for them , coz she was traded in a different religion, and so even though Akbar was welcomed in Amer (only as Shehenshah and not as SIL), their own daughter was never really welcomed...so when she knew that she was just like some goods in trade, what expctations she can keep for the person who had bought her in the market of politics?

sorry guys, may be many will feel my words r very harsh, but this is the truth...but then yes, this truth is only for this show by Ekta Kapoor...

the truth is that , real Akbar very well knew that this marriage had made his wife lose her every relation, and so he has always stood up by her side, very firmly...and that was really a good luck of MUZ...

anyway, back to our show...even Jalal's fate is not diff than Jo's...the ppl he so blindly trusts r the real backstabbers...and he is not even aware of it...no wonder he is always committing the mistakes and regretting big time later...and in case of Jo, a complete diff Jalal is seen... he acts first, then thinks and then understands everything...and in this process, he makes her hate him more...poor guy...all the time he is craving for her love, but he is just unable to understand that his own foolish acts and his arrogance will always stand btw them...

even in this episode , he gives her the option of divorce, and says that he is aware that she will be alone all her life after the divorce, but he doesn't understand the major truth, that when he married her , that time itself her fate is sealed and that is stay with him or finish her life...divorce and going back to Amer can never be option for her..(I mean not in reality) but yes, in this show anything can happen.. he is ready to send her back, and even she is ready to go back happily ( it will come in later episodes) ..

it feel like a competition btw both Jo and Jalal to prove who is more dumb and brainless..

.and for this merciless butchering of characters , I always wished, that the law of this country give us freedom that one murder is not punishable act, and many of us would have killed the stupid CVs ... sorry guys, just kidding... don't be so serious...



As always you have a very interesting viewpoint worth pondering over.

My view is this. You can never appreciate your life fully, till you come face to face with death. That ultimatum clears your mind as to what you want, do you want to live or do you want to die.

I think this divorce situation is similar. Jodha at the vase breaking scene had said that the Jodha Jalal relationship can never be repaired. Jalal by giving her the option of divorce has forced her to look at the situation again one final time. Jodha 's lamentation to Moti Bai proves that she is not willing to go so far.

She has reevaluated the situation and wants to stay but her pride won't allow it. As for divorce, Jodha has been saying all along how kroor her husband is. She can now go to Kashi or some other religious place and spend her life in meditation. In fact she does just that later on in the misunderstanding track but she is not ready to do it now.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-

Forgot to mention, but Paridhi was excellent in her convo with Moti. Every emotion portrayed flawlessly.👏⭐️...The hurt, the pain, the frustration on her destiny...everything.👏

And, both PariJat were awesome in the first scene. Chemistry simply oozing out.And the way they both turned their back to each other, as soon as they saw each other, was just sooo cute. They are adorable. Very veryyy adorable.😳


yeah I agree shagun pari was superb in emoting her pain her xpressions were bang on... 😳 indeed they r adorable... 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-

Awesome analysis Harshu di. Its fun to read your comments on the episode. 😃


The first scene was sooo good. Afterall, it had AkDha in it. The way Jodha turned away as soon as she saw Jalal..awww...😆..Even he turned back immediately...😆...And while Jalal was telling her how ajeeb everything was...I was thinking that when these two are sooo ajeeb...then everything related to them will naturally be ajeeb only naa...😉😆 And wait, Jalal does not want to niharofy Jodha...omg..thats the joke of the century...😆...Whenever she's around...I don't think there is a single moment both of them are not staring at each other...I was like " kitna jhoot bologe Jalal"...😆 Anyway, their meetings are always in strange circumatances only...I would agree with him on that...😉

I think Jalal does not realise the seriousness of the matter he had come to discuss with Jodha. He thought, he was giving her freedom. But for her, talaaq is something completely taboo. How complex her state of mind was then, can be clearly seen by her expressions...Laughing and then suddenly crying...For Jodha, as a Rajput, dying is much better than Jalal's second option. An option which Jalal would consider better. And, Jodha considers this as a game by Jalal. I mean, she thinks that Jalal considers all this as a game. Anyway, not his fault. He just wanted to give her freedom, maybe. Can't help but sympathize with Jodha here. Poor girl! Fate has been a devil in her life...

And BTW, between such a serious talk going on, Jalal suddenly brought that green coulour issue. It was hilarious. How, suddenly he diverted from the topic...But then, thats signature Jalal style...😎😆

I had actually forgotten what happened in the original. And so, I got excited seeing Jalal pushing Maham down...😆...Poor me!...😆 Anyway! How lovely it would have been if all that had been true...I mean Maham had been there instead of her dupe...Anyways...I wanted to see Jalal's reaction if indeed he knew the real truth. Coz here also he said that he never believed it was Maham. " Ye toh tay tha ki badi ammi aisa kuchh nahi kar sakti. " I wonder what punishment he would have given her.
And BTW, He said that his investigation went on for two days. But that DEK was organised the same day, during midnight, right? So, from where did those two days come? 😕



@ bold...that was actually saying the feeling in his heart, that he wants her to stay with him forever and if she agrees then he will shower every happiness on her...

but the problem is that he himself doesn't understand that this feeling is from his heart coz his ego is not ready to accept the existence of his heart...and when he says he is ready to give her the freedom, he thinks that he is fulfilling her wishes, but unfortunately he never understands what she really wants... but yes, while offering her freedom, he doesn't look in her eyes, and we can very well see the pain in his eyes due to the thought of losing her...

@ red bold...never ask such questions to those dumb CVs...they r far away from understanding our intelligence...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



@ bold...that was actually saying the feeling in his heart, that he wants her to stay with him forever and if she agrees then he will shower every happiness on her...

but the problem is that he himself doesn't understand that this feeling is from his heart coz his ego is not ready to accept the existence of his heart...and when he says he is ready to give her the freedom, he thinks that he is fulfilling her wishes, but unfortunately he never understands what she really wants... but yes, while offering her freedom, he doesn't look in her eyes, and we can very well see the pain in his eyes due to the thought of losing her...

@ red bold...never ask such questions to those dumb CVs...they r far away from understanding our intelligence...


Completely agree with you, Diksha di. 😊

Thats the point...and to some extent, the problem too. He is not ready to accept his own feelings. Like the way he said the he does not like looking at her. He neither understands his own feelings right now, nor he understand Jodha's. He thinks that going to Amer would give her happiness. He is concerned for her happiness right now. And yes, his eyes did look saddened and pained at the thought of losing her.
Yes, that green colour thing, was to show that he still cares for her, wants her to stay with him forever. He wants their nok - jhoks to go on forever. This green dialogue is indicative of that.

That was just out of curiosity. Though we can never get the answers of such questions. 😆
Edited by -AkDha.Lover- - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: hely

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">What a conspiracy... Wow... only this maharani ekta can show such a outdated things 😕This can b only done by maham, i know MA would
do this.

''JJ'' scene was fantastic i m very much enthusiastic when they conclude in hate love
But i felt really very sad when jalal asked jodha to go to Amer,
how can he do like this to jodha😕?? So horrible...
😳

Jalal made yet another mistake...he is blind when it comes to his Bari Ammi.🤢
jalal once again proved as insane </font>


ya xaclty ekta maiya and her iilogical tracks... 😕 ya akdha scene was fab...u cant completely blame jalal here cz he wanted jodha to b remain happy dint jodha say that she hates him so I think he must have tght that by releasing her giving her wat she wants that is freedom from d person whom she hates is wat he did...moreover for dat matter evn jodha had complicated tghts confusions in her mind wen he had placed d divorce option one side she hates him bt other side she doesn't want to leave him so I think both r in total complicated situations and not ready to accept d facts cz of their resp ego and pride... 😕 and hence both cant b blamed here... 😕
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -AkDha.Lover-



Completely agree with you, Diksha di.😊

Thats the point...and to some extent, the problem too. He is not ready to accept his own feelings. Like the way he said the he does not like looking at her. He neither understands his own feelings right now, nor he understand Jodha's. He thinks that going to Amer would give her happiness. He is concerned for her happiness right now. And yes, his eyes did look saddened and pained at the thought of losing her.
Yes, that green colour thing, was to show that he still cares for her, wants her to stay with him forever. He wants their nok - jhoks to go on forever. This green dialogue is indicative of that.

That was just out of curiosity. Though we can never get the answers of such questions.😆


dats wat it is both r not ready to accept their feellings I knw its too early 😆 😉 bt still there is a wall of ego and pride btw them... 😆 😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas


As always you have a very interesting viewpoint worth pondering over.

Thanks

My view is this. You can never appreciate your life fully, till you come face to face with death. That ultimatum clears your mind as to what you want, do you want to live or do you want to die.

That's the truth of life...

I think this divorce situation is similar. Jodha at the vase breaking scene had said that the Jodha Jalal relationship can never be repaired. Jalal by giving her the option of divorce has forced her to look at the situation again one final time. Jodha 's lamentation to Moti Bai proves that she is not willing to go so far.

She has reevaluated the situation and wants to stay but her pride won't allow it. As for divorce, Jodha has been saying all along how kroor her husband is. She can now go to Kashi or some other religious place and spend her life in meditation. In fact she does just that later on in the misunderstanding track but she is not ready to do it now.

right...she is not ready to go to Kashi or some other place, coz just few days back she has left her home as a bride, and after coming to agra , all she has faced is humiliation, hatred, different charges, punishments and injustice...so it's natural, that it will take some time for any girl in such situation to keep herself balanced and show her real strength...so naturally she is lost a bit after hearing the word divorce, coz right now she doesn't know what is right and what is wrong...

and as for their ego, then both of them have it much much bigger ...she is not ready to show her willingness to give in to his wish and stay back in agra, coz it's her who has always said that she hates even the sight of him... and on the other side, all he can think is that he is doing her a favour by giving her freedom, and so she should refuse and stay back, but even though he wants her to stay, his ego stands btw his brain and heart and doesn't allow him to express his willingness for her love in his life...right now for him he is Sheheshah and husband of her who has every right on her , even more than she has it on herself...

and when such fight continues btw the egos, then it always leads to big disaster, which in this case we will get to see with Jo's suicide attempt

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: harshu27


wow dikshu loved ur take... 👏 well said ...both of dm's fate was sealed together... I have nothing more to say as u have mentioned so well abt akdha' fate and their relationship...actually d cvs really butchered d historical characters to d core... 🥱 how I wished we would have been mr or miss india and becom invisible and strt killing all these cvs who really portrayed such a grt emperor as dumb and brainless... 🥱 😕 but I think its d mentality of our indian cvs and phs to butcher d history and its legends pathetically... 😕



right... a small correction... our CVs love their own version of such history with the aim of making saas bahu soap with historical characters... and so this is the outcome we finally get

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