Jodha Akbar: Is Jalal wrong as a Father?

Originally posted by: Nanayaa623

In the middle of challenges facing Jalal in his day to day administration of the Sultanta where his own are plotting against him, betraying his trust on them and poisoning minds against him he also has the responsibility to make the next heir to the throne a better King.

Jalal wish that his heir to the throne will not make the same mistakes he made in his past. He will not take for granted being born with a silver spoon in his hands but rather learn to appreciate the citizens he will one day rule. He is restless and doesn't know what the future holds.

However in the middle of this uncertainty there are other relations, friends, family and foes who can make his desires and hard work fruitless. He has him MUZ who cares so much about his inner turmoils and he can share his fears with her only and though she encourages and assure him that Salim will learn all these qualities with time, experience, try and error, hurt and pain, betrayal and disappointment etc. just like he is going through and learning Jalal is still not at peace. His mission is that he doesn't want his son to be like him but become even greater then him and his own person. He doesn't want the luxuries in the Sultanate to make him soft, and get things the easy way. He wants the kind of training for him where he learn and earn things the hard way like he did so he can value what he will be inheriting in the future one day. Jalal is also afraid that been the first surviving child of his mother after many lost Jodha is been soft towards Salim with so much love and attention so he has to start been strict on him.

Jalal's methods in training his son Salim are becoming like a military trainer and his soldier! Being a warrior himself he knows what kind of training might bring his son to the place he desire 'a warrior's heart but yet a gentle King'.

However just as Jodha said Jalal is impatient in his quest and forgotten that he did not learn or get all the experience he has today in a day! In his state he has forgetting the most important aspect - Father and son relationship and bonding which is never perfect due to the role modelling aspect.

So what is Jalal doing wrong in his quest to make his son a better King that is making his every action and decision wrong and rather destroying father and son bonding?

He is not talking to his son nor having a tete-a-tete talk about his aspiration for him.

He is not explaining Salim's wrong behavior by speaking lies to him earlier nor explaining his punishment to him towards his recent behaviour and so someone else is doing a very good job on his behalf for him.

He is not listening to counseling from the right sources nor his son's grievances or sadness about what happened.

He is allowing too much significant others to invade the private relationship he shares with his son earlier.

He is not allowing Salim's mother to play her role as a mother, good counselor and emotional support to her son by saying it will make him weak thereby unknowingly allowing wicked and evil heart people to take her place and direct her son wrongly.

The outcome of father and son relationship would definitely be a reflection of his actions and decisions today and I hope he will not regret later and go back to the same source where he gets good counsel and don't use them wisely and seek for solace from his failure as father but will held his head high and for once take the blame with a brave-heart.

well he has a lot of things in his mind
he is not only a father but also a king
so he has to keep many things in mind

but i guess a private talk among akdha and salim would have been good

Originally posted by: rima4ever

well he has a lot of things in his mind
he is not only a father but also a king
so he has to keep many things in mind

Yes Jalal has a lot on his mind and a lot of responsibilities as a King and needs loyal people around him the help him achieve his goals in every aspect of his life been a father or the King to the nation.

Originally posted by: rima4ever

but i guess a private talk among akdha and salim would have been good

Probably his past is his handicap as he never himself have a perfect father figure in his life.

Hopefully that private talk which is long over due will happen soon not after another tragedy which will further complicate his relationship with his son.

Originally posted by: Charu.S

Awesome, awesome write-up Nanayaa.😊 👏 I completely and totally agree with your views.

Jalal means well for his child, it is the methods that he is using to implement his well meaning thoughts that are proving detrimental to Salim as an individual and to the relationship between Jodha/Jalal and Salim. A parent should correct a child for his mistakes, but that should be done with positivity, keeping the child's personality in mind.

Irrespective of the times, be it medieval or modern, a parent forcing his/her ideologies on a child, intimidating them with words or body language will only have a negative impact on the child. It does not surprise me at all to hear that many young princes revolted against their fathers to have an upper hand and control over the empire. This was their way of proving their individuality and dislike of being controlled by their sires. In today's times also we see teenagers and even adult children revolting and showing aggression towards overly strict and controlling parents.

Salim is already timid and low in self-esteem. His type of kid has to be nurtured with love. He is extremely anxious in Jalal's presence. Jalal yelling at him, magnifying his mistakes and punishing him, makes Salim feel humiliated and belittled. Instead of losing his cool at the young prince, if Jalal could spend a few minutes with the child, bonding with him over a game of chess or practicing archery, it will do a world of good for their relationship. He can also use these quiet one on one moments to talk lovingly to the child and make him understand the importance of proper behavior, respect towards everyone and other positive traits a prince should possess. Any kind of force or harshness will have an undesirable effect.

Jalal's punishment of sending Salim away from the palace has already had a gloomy impact on Salim. His tender mind has concluded that his parents do not love him, hence sent him away. He has not understood the implication of the punishment at all. To add to this, if Jalal reacts to every little act of Salim's, it is going to result in permanent friction between father and son. Children will make mistakes , that is part of growing up. It is left to the parents to handle those mistakes in a mature manner, so that the child learns something positive from the mistake committed. Punishing them or yelling at them will not solve the purpose.

Of course there is the malicious Rukaiyya who will never miss an opportunity to add fuel to the fire, in Salim's mind. In his haste to make a perfect heir and warrior out of Salim, Jalal should not end up losing the love shared between father and son. Jalal needs to remember that Salim is a child first, crown prince later. I wish to see both Jalal and Jodha on the same page when it comes to parenting Salim. If Salim is secure in the love of his parents, he will never believe a word that Rukaiyya utters against them.

I think by showing this aspect in their relationship, the Creatives are preparing us for a tension filled unhappy equation between the adult Salim and aged Akbar. I have read that Akbar was a very strict father. Maybe this what the Creatives are trying to show.

Charu.

Charu,

Your post is equally awesome! I totally agree with you. 👏👏

Like you mentioned irrespective of the generation somethings are common to 'man'.
Jalal's intentions are in the right direction but he is missing out on the fundamentals which will cost him dearly. We can perceive where the CV team is leading with such tracks however I don't think the relationship will be so sour that there will be no communication at some point but rather it will be a little too late and might bear less fruit. But the tension will definitely remain as son will try now hard to please his father who is upset and disappointed with him for choosing him as the next heir and not good enough as the next King forgetting he made the wrong calls.

As for Rukaiya and the role she is playing between the family in Agra I don't know the plans CV team have for her but what I see right now in her is that she is encompass with hate toward Jalal for 'leaving her behind' and having all the happiness and fulfillment in his life that she feels she is not part of her with a fear of losing what she lived for all these years 'power'. So she has to destroy what he has and love the most. She tells herself it is Jodha she is hating and fighting so she doesn't feel guilty or remorseful for what she is doing to Jalal.

We shall all wait and see if Jalal will one day woke up to this reality or he will live in this darkness till his death.

Originally posted by: Nanayaa623

Charu,

Your post is equally awesome! I totally agree with you. 👏👏

Like you mentioned irrespective of the generation somethings are common to 'man'.
Jalal's intentions are in the right direction but he is missing out on the fundamentals which will cost him dearly. We can perceive where the CV team is leading with such tracks however I don't think the relationship will be so sour that there will be no communication at some point but rather it will be a little too late and might bear less fruit. But the tension will definitely remain as son will try now hard to please his father who is upset and disappointed with him for choosing him as the next heir and not good enough as the next King forgetting he made the wrong calls.

As for Rukaiya and the role she is playing between the family in Agra I don't know the plans CV team have for her but what I see right now in her is that she is encompass with hate toward Jalal for 'leaving her behind' and having all the happiness and fulfillment in his life that she feels she is not part of her with a fear of losing what she lived for all these years 'power'. So she has to destroy what he has and love the most. She tells herself it is Jodha she is hating and fighting so she doesn't feel guilty or remorseful for what she is doing to Jalal.

We shall all wait and see if Jalal will one day woke up to this reality or he will live in this darkness till his death.

Nayana & Charu, beautifully written by both of you. Agree with you totally.

Coming to Ruks, not sure why she feels Jalal moved on leaving her behind. any relation its a two way process and form Ruks side I have never seen any genuineness from her at all. Also to show your anger and frustration would u go and destroy someones life. I have no sympathies for this woman at all.

Coming to Salim, I too agree kaash Jalal could have a talk with him. Tomorrow I dont think Jalal would have punished Salim. It must be something else.

Form the looks of how this serial is going soon we are going to see Salim send for training. So any reconciliation with his parents before that I dont think we are going to see. Its sad but now a days all we see in this serial is negativity. Its frustrating to see evil winning all the time.

At least even if Ruks was plotting, if her plans were failing I would have been happy.

Originally posted by: Nanayaa623

Charu,

Your post is equally awesome! I totally agree with you. 👏👏

Like you mentioned irrespective of the generation somethings are common to 'man'.
Jalal's intentions are in the right direction but he is missing out on the fundamentals which will cost him dearly. We can perceive where the CV team is leading with such tracks however I don't think the relationship will be so sour that there will be no communication at some point but rather it will be a little too late and might bear less fruit. But the tension will definitely remain as son will try now hard to please his father who is upset and disappointed with him for choosing him as the next heir and not good enough as the next King forgetting he made the wrong calls.

As for Rukaiya and the role she is playing between the family in Agra I don't know the plans CV team have for her but what I see right now in her is that she is encompass with hate toward Jalal for 'leaving her behind' and having all the happiness and fulfillment in his life that she feels she is not part of her with a fear of losing what she lived for all these years 'power'. So she has to destroy what he has and love the most. She tells herself it is Jodha she is hating and fighting so she doesn't feel guilty or remorseful for what she is doing to Jalal.

We shall all wait and see if Jalal will one day woke up to this reality or he will live in this darkness till his death.

Charu,

Your post is equally awesome! I totally agree with you. 👏👏

Like you mentioned irrespective of the generation somethings are common to 'man'.
Jalal's intentions are in the right direction but he is missing out on the fundamentals which will cost him dearly. We can perceive where the CV team is leading with such tracks however I don't think the relationship will be so sour that there will be no communication at some point but rather it will be a little too late and might bear less fruit. But the tension will definitely remain as son will try now hard to please his father who is upset and disappointed with him for choosing him as the next heir and not good enough as the next King forgetting he made the wrong calls.

As for Rukaiya and the role she is playing between the family in Agra I don't know the plans CV team have for her but what I see right now in her is that she is encompass with hate toward Jalal for 'leaving her behind' and having all the happiness and fulfillment in his life that she feels she is not part of her with a fear of losing what she lived for all these years 'power'. So she has to destroy what he has and love the most. She tells herself it is Jodha she is hating and fighting so she doesn't feel guilty or remorseful for what she is doing to Jalal.

We shall all wait and see if Jalal will one day woke up to this reality or he will live in this darkness till his death.






Nayana & Charu, beautifully written by both of you. Agree with you totally.

Coming to Ruks, not sure why she feels Jalal moved on leaving her behind. any relation its a two way process and form Ruks side I have never seen any genuineness from her at all. Also to show your anger and frustration would u go and destroy someones life. I have no sympathies for this woman at all.

Coming to Salim, I too agree kaash Jalal could have a talk with him. Tomorrow I dont think Jalal would have punished Salim. It must be something else.

Form the looks of how this serial is going soon we are going to see Salim send for training. So any reconciliation with his parents before that I dont think we are going to see. Its sad but now a days all we see in this serial is negativity. Its frustrating to see evil winning all the time.

At least even if Ruks was plotting, if her plans were failing I would have been happy.



Sindhu dear,

I have encouraged us that we should stop giving Rukaiya importance in our discussions. 😆

Lets focus on Jalal Jodha, and Salim equation though she is a chief plotter causing havoc in their relationship both need to open their eyes to the excessive love shown towards their son and the change in his behaviour.

Hopefully Jalal will try to make amends when he realise his approach is wrong just as Jodha keeps telling him however it might be too late because of the seeds of discord already sown by his adversaries.

Yes regarding the precap might be either another opuim session or its effect so while Jalal is heading towards Salim in a furious state he might panic and faint Jodha might follow him to intervene and both might meet him in that condition that is another possibility and might raise some suspicions. However we should expect the worse. Because the main intention of the informer of what Jodha was hiding from Jalal was to cause argument and fighting between Jalal and Jodha.