Shahenshah/Father duties

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Today read only WU not seen show
Akbar is fulfilling his Shahenshah duty by punishing Salim for hitting arrow and running off from place in fear and lying in court OK fine agreed
But in between all this he has forgotten he is father of Salim in all this fiasco. And he has forgotten a father's duty. Yes he is a Shahenshah first but he must never forget he is father and that too Salim is a child not adult who can take care of himself and his emotions and fears alone.
As a father I had hoped after giving him nazarband sazaa till announcing the verdict he must have gone and spoken to Salim as a father not Shahenshah. He must have asked him what exactly happened? Why Salim went to practice in between the training session? Then he would have know that Murad and Haider keep making fun of his abilities always hence to better his arrow aim he went to practice. And that was a shahi baagh where Salim had no idea a kid would have come in sneaking to steal magoes and climbed the tree.
As a father Akbar must have told him "Salim no matter what you do whether knowing unknowingly whether bad or good never forget you have a father and mother who love you more than their life and you can come and tell them without fear anything in your heart. Next time come and tell whatever happens to me or your mom immediately. We shall help you because we love you. Never fear to come and tell me or your masa anything ever again in life"
This one explanation would have reassured Salim and he would not have run to Ruqaiah or get scared.
After that Akbar could have explained that "as a father I am with you and love you but Salim I am a Shahenshah and judge in this case. So I will have to give an imartial judgement tomorrow. I am sorry if that judgement may sound harsh to you. That a shahenshah and judge gave not your father. Remember whatever punishment I gave you, you are not facing it alone, I and your mom shall face that punishment with you may be not as much as you but definitely same as you. So never think I gave punishment to punish you but for your good. Today you may not realize but later on you will understand once big what I did and why?"
If only Akbar had done this much today Salim need not have gone to Ruqaiah or he would not have misunderstand his parents. Today Akbar may have become great judge by giving punishment but failed as father.
But Akbar has never been show to be this mature and sensitive in case of Jodha and Salim, Murad and Daniyal ever. Such sensitivity reserved for undeserving people like Ruqaiah, Maham, Adham, Abul Mali, Sharifuddin etc all people who try to kill him and take away his taqt etc
But people who love him like Jodha and his sons must be ignored, humiliated, shouted at, scared of him etc. Even the most dreaded criminal will become a good human if you give him love, care and respect. And here shahenshah does not treat his closest family who love and care and respect him with same love, care and sensituivity. Why only enemies, childhood friends and nieces deserve sensitive not wife and sons?
Here its an accident and its a child who has done it by mistake yet such insensitivity potrayed by Akbar not only a shahenshah the child's father
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Posted: 10 years ago
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You have written an important point that everybody was feeling, after all he is a kid.
A kid needs to explain the situation so that he clearly accepts it calmly. By talking to them we could only justify them.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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good post , Prem... ya, here Akbar has been shown more as a shehenshah and not as a father... that tarazu scene really doesn't count here as this time CVs failed to show Akbar's balanced justice... it felt like while a shehenshah won, a father in him failed his son...

like u have written, if they would have shown father - son together scene before DEA justice scene, it would have been good to watch... but i think , that scene btw Akbar and salim will come tomorrow or on monday just before salim will leave the palace...


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Today read only WU not seen show

Akbar is fulfilling his Shahenshah duty by punishing Salim for hitting arrow and running off from place in fear and lying in court OK fine agreed
But in between all this he has forgotten he is father of Salim in all this fiasco. And he has forgotten a father's duty. Yes he is a Shahenshah first but he must never forget he is father and that too Salim is a child not adult who can take care of himself and his emotions and fears alone.
As a father I had hoped after giving him nazarband sazaa till announcing the verdict he must have gone and spoken to Salim as a father not Shahenshah. He must have asked him what exactly happened? Why Salim went to practice in between the training session? Then he would have know that Murad and Haider keep making fun of his abilities always hence to better his arrow aim he went to practice. And that was a shahi baagh where Salim had no idea a kid would have come in sneaking to steal magoes and climbed the tree.
As a father Akbar must have told him "Salim no matter what you do whether knowing unknowingly whether bad or good never forget you have a father and mother who love you more than their life and you can come and tell them without fear anything in your heart. Next time come and tell whatever happens to me or your mom immediately. We shall help you because we love you. Never fear to come and tell me or your masa anything ever again in life"
This one explanation would have reassured Salim and he would not have run to Ruqaiah or get scared.
After that Akbar could have explained that "as a father I am with you and love you but Salim I am a Shahenshah and judge in this case. So I will have to give an imartial judgement tomorrow. I am sorry if that judgement may sound harsh to you. That a shahenshah and judge gave not your father. Remember whatever punishment I gave you, you are not facing it alone, I and your mom shall face that punishment with you may be not as much as you but definitely same as you. So never think I gave punishment to punish you but for your good. Today you may not realize but later on you will understand once big what I did and why?"
If only Akbar had done this much today Salim need not have gone to Ruqaiah or he would not have misunderstand his parents. Today Akbar may have become great judge by giving punishment but failed as father.
But Akbar has never been show to be this mature and sensitive in case of Jodha and Salim, Murad and Daniyal ever. Such sensitivity reserved for undeserving people like Ruqaiah, Maham, Adham, Abul Mali, Sharifuddin etc all people who try to kill him and take away his taqt etc
But people who love him like Jodha and his sons must be ignored, humiliated, shouted at, scared of him etc. Even the most dreaded criminal will become a good human if you give him love, care and respect. And here shahenshah does not treat his closest family who love and care and respect him with same love, care and sensituivity. Why only enemies, childhood friends and nieces deserve sensitive not wife and sons?
Here its an accident and its a child who has done it by mistake yet such insensitivity potrayed by Akbar not only a shahenshah the child's father



very well written..

loved especially @bold.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Today read only WU not seen show

Akbar is fulfilling his Shahenshah duty by punishing Salim for hitting arrow and running off from place in fear and lying in court OK fine agreed

Jalal in DEA never do justice...alredy v hv seen in previous tracks in fake preg track n now...
But in between all this he has forgotten he is father of Salim in all this fiasco. And he has forgotten a father's duty. Yes he is a Shahenshah first but he must never forget he is father and that too Salim is a child not adult who can take care of himself and his emotions and fears alone.

if u tell Jalal is father of rahim i believe that...there were many affectionate scenes btw jalal n rahim n at the same time he was teaching swordfights too now...but from day one apart from calling sheiku baba(which he feels is pet name) theres nothing father n son bonding visible to us...these two r lik principal n student
As a father I had hoped after giving him nazarband sazaa till announcing the verdict he must have gone and spoken to Salim as a father not Shahenshah. He must have asked him what exactly happened? Why Salim went to practice in between the training session? Then he would have know that Murad and Haider keep making fun of his abilities always hence to better his arrow aim he went to practice. And that was a shahi baagh where Salim had no idea a kid would have come in sneaking to steal magoes and climbed the tree.

Even i expected that he wil talk to salim abt how it happend n y did he lie...he is nine yrs kid who is hell scared of his father...salim wud hv not slept whole night...cant jalal sit with his so called dearest son n talk to him lik father😡I felt lik hugging salim today he was crying badly without any mistake of him
As a father Akbar must have told him "Salim no matter what you do whether knowing unknowingly whether bad or good never forget you have a father and mother who love you more than their life and you can come and tell them without fear anything in your heart. Next time come and tell whatever happens to me or your mom immediately. We shall help you because we love you. Never fear to come and tell me or your masa anything ever again in life"
👏this shud hv told by jalal which he dint😡

This one explanation would have reassured Salim and he would not have run to Ruqaiah or get scared.

exactly now salim wil rhink that badiammi loves him morethan his parents n he wil strt gng to her only from now😡
After that Akbar could have explained that "as a father I am with you and love you but Salim I am a Shahenshah and judge in this case. So I will have to give an imartial judgement tomorrow. I am sorry if that judgement may sound harsh to you. That a shahenshah and judge gave not your father. Remember whatever punishment I gave you, you are not facing it alone, I and your mom shall face that punishment with you may be not as much as you but definitely same as you. So never think I gave punishment to punish you but for your good. Today you may not realize but later on you will understand once big what I did and why?"
⭐️well said but our jalal wants to b good shehnshah n not good father...so in all these he is lukin lik brainless n hertless father

If only Akbar had done this much today Salim need not have gone to Ruqaiah or he would not have misunderstand his parents. Today Akbar may have become great judge by giving punishment but failed as father.
But Akbar has never been show to be this mature and sensitive in case of Jodha and Salim, Murad and Daniyal ever. Such sensitivity reserved for undeserving people like Ruqaiah, Maham, Adham, Abul Mali, Sharifuddin etc all people who try to kill him and take away his taqt etc
👏bingo!!today also wen jo tries to put sme sense to him by makin him to think as father too he just barked at her...he is good at it especially wen the receiving end is jodha...his sympathy bachpan dost nonsense is for his rukayya...


But people who love him like Jodha and his sons must be ignored, humiliated, shouted at, scared of him etc. Even the most dreaded criminal will become a good human if you give him love, care and respect. And here shahenshah does not treat his closest family who love and care and respect him with same love, care and sensituivity. Why only enemies, childhood friends and nieces deserve sensitive not wife and sons?
same questions in me too for this brainless jalal

Here its an accident and its a child who has done it by mistake yet such insensitivity potrayed by Akbar not only a shahenshah the child's father

he dint sit with salim n talked but i hav sme doubts
1)is jalal sure that its salim arrow which hit that boy??may b its enemies sazish who hit that boy so that salim wil b punished as he is waliahad
2)that area is for practice then y did anar n co came their by crossin rules? wont ppl get hurt by roaming in practicing area?
3)he is sending salim away from palace to stay in that old woman house...wat if smeone attacks salim to kill him?no security wil b ther with salim...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Kudos for an exceptional write-up.👏 👏.

A child should NEVER be fearful of his/her parents. The positive/negative equation shared by a parent and child is the most important determining factor in developing the child's personality, as an adult. Parents are the first and foremost teachers in the child's life, hence it is very important how they conduct themselves in thought, word, speech and action. Every little decision needs to be taken, keeping the child's personality and well-being in mind.
I have not yet watched today's episode, but after reading the WU, I felt that before punishing Salim as a shehenshah, Jalal should have talked to the little boy as a father, and figured out the circumstances leading to the arrow shooting and the reason behind his need to lie. In his eagerness to mould him to become a good emperor, Jalal should not miss seeing that Salim is still a child. He should not let his image of a shehenshah, take over the father in him. A sensitive child like Salim,can easily be won over and made strong with love and positivity.



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Edited by Charu.S - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i agree akbar should have talked to him
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your analysis is so right
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Today read only WU not seen show

Akbar is fulfilling his Shahenshah duty by punishing Salim for hitting arrow and running off from place in fear and lying in court OK fine agreed
But in between all this he has forgotten he is father of Salim in all this fiasco. And he has forgotten a father's duty. Yes he is a Shahenshah first but he must never forget he is father and that too Salim is a child not adult who can take care of himself and his emotions and fears alone.
As a father I had hoped after giving him nazarband sazaa till announcing the verdict he must have gone and spoken to Salim as a father not Shahenshah. He must have asked him what exactly happened? Why Salim went to practice in between the training session? Then he would have know that Murad and Haider keep making fun of his abilities always hence to better his arrow aim he went to practice. And that was a shahi baagh where Salim had no idea a kid would have come in sneaking to steal magoes and climbed the tree.
As a father Akbar must have told him "Salim no matter what you do whether knowing unknowingly whether bad or good never forget you have a father and mother who love you more than their life and you can come and tell them without fear anything in your heart. Next time come and tell whatever happens to me or your mom immediately. We shall help you because we love you. Never fear to come and tell me or your masa anything ever again in life"
This one explanation would have reassured Salim and he would not have run to Ruqaiah or get scared.
After that Akbar could have explained that "as a father I am with you and love you but Salim I am a Shahenshah and judge in this case. So I will have to give an imartial judgement tomorrow. I am sorry if that judgement may sound harsh to you. That a shahenshah and judge gave not your father. Remember whatever punishment I gave you, you are not facing it alone, I and your mom shall face that punishment with you may be not as much as you but definitely same as you. So never think I gave punishment to punish you but for your good. Today you may not realize but later on you will understand once big what I did and why?"
If only Akbar had done this much today Salim need not have gone to Ruqaiah or he would not have misunderstand his parents. Today Akbar may have become great judge by giving punishment but failed as father.
But Akbar has never been show to be this mature and sensitive in case of Jodha and Salim, Murad and Daniyal ever. Such sensitivity reserved for undeserving people like Ruqaiah, Maham, Adham, Abul Mali, Sharifuddin etc all people who try to kill him and take away his taqt etc
But people who love him like Jodha and his sons must be ignored, humiliated, shouted at, scared of him etc. Even the most dreaded criminal will become a good human if you give him love, care and respect. And here shahenshah does not treat his closest family who love and care and respect him with same love, care and sensituivity. Why only enemies, childhood friends and nieces deserve sensitive not wife and sons?
Here its an accident and its a child who has done it by mistake yet such insensitivity potrayed by Akbar not only a shahenshah the child's father

yes agree with you but why salim could not tell his mother heas scared of his father but his mother shes loving and kind why is he scared of her,wese bache apni maa ko to sab bata dete hai i just dont understand why he cant tell his mother but hes badiammi
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Posted: 10 years ago
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hmm I agree...lets see if he does it or not...I admit Jalal is right at his place...phir bhi giving such punishment to Salim was harsh...Salim is mere a kid and what happened was just an accident! I know Salim running away and lying at DEA angered Jalal the most...house arrest would have been fine as punishment and also giving royal treatment to Qadir till he recovers would have made his Dadi happy...making Salim staying in the house till Qadir recovers is something I am not liking...may be I am biased towards Salim...but I really wish Jalal say all these u mentioned..it will comfort Salim and also he will take it as a lesson.

having said that, Jalal is also a father..as much as we r upset, he is also upset and sad for this, in fact much much more than any of us...after all it was him who had to take such strict decision...he must have thought this step will make Salim stronger and teach him a lesson of life along with witnessing a true picture of how commoners lead their lives.
Edited by tamy267 - 10 years ago

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