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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

She doesn't have a right Ela but had Rahim died due to Shehnaaz, would you called Jo a killer for bringing Shehnaaz into the palace? If Jodha is not responsible for the mishaps by Shehnaaz then how is Ruqaiya responsible for the twins death for engaging Zeenat that too when Zeenat entered the palace only in the capacity of a guest and stayed as a guest. Her appointment as a dai was incidental.


I agree with u that ruqqaiya s responsible for a lot of pain but not Hassan's death n that will be the reason y she would not be killed in case if there is some bhandaphod of any kind. But now we have to see how Hussein is killed coz the reason zeenat has got this close to jodha's room is thanx to her appointment as a caretaker by ruqqaiya. As just a guest she would not be entering jodha's room or spending time there without raising suspicion. It's the distrust of ruqqaiya on jodha that has allowed zeenat to be close to Hussein so yes if zeenat manages to kill Hussein now then ruqqaiya is indirectly responsible for his death.
And yes if rahim had died coz of shehnaaz jodha would have been partly responsible for it n I m sure would have been blamed by everyone but mostly she would have never forgiven herself for it.
Edited by vinitaj27 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: adiana12

Ela, its going to go the way I predicted - Monday Zeenat will poison Hussein - Tuesday Hussein will die - Wednesday Ruqs will ask for justice - Thursday Zeenat and Qasim get caught - and Friday Ruqs gets an earful from Akbar - and No Ela, Akbar will not be confused about Jodha, instead he would be wanting some clue that could prove that the deaths were not due to some stupid curse or negligence or any such thing - and this track will be over the same way as Atifa track was, in a jiffy - and the Diwali week will see Ruqs being relegated to the periphery and a leap to Salim's birth - Srry my dear but na toh Ruqs ka koi bada sa bhandaphod ya punishment hoga na hi koi seperation track of Akbar and Jodha hoga 😛

OK Adi but plz tell me why should Ruku ask for justice? What right she has to ask for it? what do you mean by it?
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: vinitaj27


I agree with u that ruqqaiya s responsible for a lot of pain but not Hassan's death n that will be the reason y she would not be killed in case if there is some bhandaphod of any kind. But now we have to see how Hussein is killed coz the reason zeenat has got this close to jodha's room is thanx to her appointment as a caretaker by ruqqaiya. As just a guest she would not be entering jodha's room or spending time there without raising suspicion. It's the distrust of ruqqaiya on jodha that has allowed zeenat to be close to Hussein so yes if zeenat manages to kill Hussein now then ruqqaiya is indirectly responsible for his death.

Zeenat is bhabhi jaan of Jalal shd she would have access to everywhere to the palace. If she wants to kill Hussein when with Jo, she would have stuck to Jo praising her mixing with the Mughals so well and clung to her and sought a chance to carry out her evil intentions. IF Mirza Hakim has access to all rooms of the palace, then Zeenat too would. Again, if Rahim had died due to Shehnaaz then is Jo indirectly responsible for his death? Is Jodha responsible for all the deaths of soldiers killed by Khaiber. NO. Just the same Ruqs too isn't. She did not know what Zeenat was.
Edited by Sandhya.A - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Shenaz dint hv intention to kill rahim... I stil believe that while playing with rahim he accidentally has fallen and shenaz to make believ evryone that she is mentally disabled she strtd laughing... If she really wanted to kill rahim she wud not Hv thrown rahim from horse before leaving fort... She wud Hv taken him along with her n kill him n throw him outside fort... Mahamanga also bought benazir not knwing abt ben intentions and jo bought shenaz but nothing happend to jalal or his close ones bcz of them wen they stayed in mahal... But here bcz of zeenat who was bought by ruk as Dai ma two kids were killed unlike previous times which were all failure...
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh

OK Adi but plz tell me why should Ruku ask for justice? What right she has to ask for it? what do you mean by it?



Becoz Ela, legally Hussein is her child now and it was Jodha herself who gave Hussein to Ruqs for adoption - and Ela the laws are very clear - once adoption takes place the child's natural parent has no legal rights with regards any aspect of the child and if the child is then sent to the care of the natural parent and dies the adopted parent does have the legal right to knock the courts for justice - and here the scenario is also similar - however much we may scream that Jodha is the real mother but it is a fact that Hussein has been given away in adoption by her to Ruqs and now the child is legally Ruqs child.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Zeenat is bhabhi jaan of Jalal shd she would have access to everywhere to the palace. If she wants to kill Hussein when with Jo, she would have stuck to Jo praising her mixing with the Mughals so well and clung to her and sought a chance to carry out her evil intentions. IF Mirza Hakim has access to all rooms of the palace, then Zeenat too would. Again, if Rahim had died due to Shehnaaz then is Jo indirectly responsible for his death? Is Jodha responsible for all the deaths of soldiers killed by Khaiber. NO. Just the same Ruqs too isn't. She did not know what Zeenat was.


Still after the death of Hassan she would never have been left alone with Hussein if not for her position as his milk mother. As a guest she would have to follow certain limits n not enter jodha's room without an excuse everytime. Even Mirza hakim doesn't enter Jalal room.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Shenaz dint hv intention to kill rahim... I stil believe that while playing with rahim he accidentally has fallen and shenaz to make believ evryone that she is mentally disabled she strtd laughing... If she really wanted to kill rahim she wud not Hv thrown rahim from horse before leaving fort... She wud Hv taken him along with her n kill him n throw him outside fort... Mahamanga also bought benazir not knwing abt ben intentions and jo bought shenaz but nothing happend to jalal or his close ones bcz of them wen they stayed in mahal... But here bcz of zeenat who was bought by ruk as Dai ma two kids were killed unlike previous times which were all failure...

Mirchi war happened due to Shenhaaz. The harem had to be shifted only because Shehnaaz learnt of the passageways of the harem and it was unsafe to leave them there.
Again whatever be Shehnaaz' intentions, had Jalal not caught Rahim, he would have died. But this doesn't make Jodha responsible, right? While Jodha brought in Shehnaaz without knowing the truth, Ruku only engaged Zeenat without knowing the truth after Zeenat was already in the palace.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh


bhavana I cant say anything...if kids could not resist to poison due to premature death ? I have no idea of it...but I will say one thing if kids death was to be shown as due to poison then why give so much weightage to MA's curse?...Kids are not dying due to curse but due to poison which is man made...



Yes Ela kids died bcz of poison not bcz of curse... And immediate death is bcz of these r prematured kids
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: vinitaj27


Still after the death of Hassan she would never have been left alone with Hussein if not for her position as his milk mother. As a guest she would have to follow certain limits n not enter jodha's room without an excuse everytime. Even Mirza hakim doesn't enter Jalal room.

Then she would have dressed like a baandhi like last time, created a diversion and finished off her task. She is not a mere guest but a family member. Her access to palace rooms is not so difficult afterall.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: divyavm


The point is when do we start the blame game .., why did Ruqs end up getting Hussein in the first place?

Jalal had put his foot down it will not happen ... Jodha insisted otherwise
The farmaan didn't say she would get the child only if she loved it and did not want it for some title ... The farmaan is the farmaan and all parties agreed to it

There was a story I heard once- one man was sent to get medicines in an urgency and an ambulance was also going urgently and they collide

Who is to blame? It is tough. Do we blame the ambulance driver or why he is a rush, do you blame the man walking or who sent him to get the medicine - the chain will go back and back ...

But in no way Am I saying Ruqs is a good person for doing any of this ... But you cannot blame her for the death ...

Divya I am not blaming Jallu for sharing and have never blamed it...Infact I have always blamed Jo for it...but Divya just becoz Jo made a foolish decision it doesnot give Ruku to be so evil and mean with her...She herself said that she will change dai every 6 months so why could she not appoint Jo for at least first six months?
And Ruku got a child from farman and it is legal but everything legal doesnot make it right...there is some moral and ethical code of conducts too...Now when she knows that Jo has lost her child would not she let Jo spend some time with her...? If not then is she the right kind of mother for the child? Is the only important thing for a child is to keep her safe and what kind of human being he turns out to be does not matter?

And as far as Ruku being responsible for Kids death I firmly believe that she is responsible and made it easy for Zeenat to kill kids...and kids will die due to her highhandedness and false pride...
and divya kids and motherhoods are not traded...
Edited by elasingh - 10 years ago

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