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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: preetgurti



Maddy found new owl yeyeyeu 😆



Owww glad to! Now only our Jiya is missing 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

Divya's pointed out a very crucial aspect of this Birbal karnaama..I am pasting it here-

"Birbal's one argument I liked ... when he brought the poor Hindus for conversion as it got to a bit of the issue, is it a revenue problem or a religion problem? Because if it is a revenue problem, then all the Hindus converting to Muslim will result in the same revenue problem ... and then there is the point of injustice that Birbal himself brought up."

now I understood why Birbal gathered every Hindu awam and why he said everyone is ready to convert into Muslim...to make Jalal understand this that when every Hindu will convert into Muslim then no one will pay jaziya as per law...phir loss nahi hogi? toh ab hatane se kya dikkat? in fact it will keep their rights intact of practicing their own religion!



Thanks Tamy great point.

Birbal was brilliant cos he showed Jalal the folly of both ways. The religious forcible conversion is wrong is what Jalal himself immediately said and Birbal pointed out the awam is left with no choice! I liked how Birbal said you are the only Shehenshah who has treated both equally and this is not about Begums but about the awam and you yourself know which is the right decision.

Jalal also knew it was true. This is why a newcomer like Birbal dared to tell Jalal to call a DEK. Cos Birbal has confidence in his brain!



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Owww glad to! Now only our Jiya is missing 😆

.yaa
in my case my night music saathi is gayab she is not well na

Missing all rhea rak
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: chitterati

Maddy, I am glad you liked the episode but since I was expecting baby focused story and Ruk exposure track to being, it was very knee jerk episode for me. When cvs should have shown policy oriented tracks they wasted time on stuff like Atifa and Khaiber, and now when the focus should have been on Jo JA and their kids ... The story has taken off on a different tangent !

For me this episode like all others this week was a disappointment .

Charu I echo you
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Posted: 11 years ago
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yes episode was good but i want jo ja and baby scene😵without any disturbance seriously this rukiya na i really dont understand this lady what she want one side she saying i like jodha now and we are friends and on another side she take that potile from jodha so badly phele baat ye rukiya kabhi badal nahi sakte at last jodha will regret why she agree to give one baby to rukiya im dam sure when rukiya take one baby to her hojra she will dont allowed jodha to meet that baby then jodha realized kabhi hud ke baare mein bhi sochna chahiye 💔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Thanks Tamy great point.

Birbal was brilliant cos he showed Jalal the folly of both ways. The religious forcible conversion is wrong is what Jalal himself immediately said and Birbal pointed out the awam is left with no choice! I liked how Birbal said you are the only Shehenshah who has treated both equally and this is not about Begums but about the awam and you yourself know which is the right decision.

Jalal also knew it was true. This is why a newcomer like Birbal dared to tell Jalal to call a DEK. Cos Birbal has confidence in his brain!



Exactly...Jalal khud bhi janta hai woh galat karraha hai but something is stopping him to break the law...he needed a proper logic which everyone agrees.
As per Islam, u cannot force a person to change his religion and convert into Islam..it is a great sin..pehle toh jo convert horaha hai Allah ke darbar mein usse as a Muslim accept nahi kiya jayega..doosra the person forcing would be considered as a grave sinner due to forcing...converting has many conditions..this is the major one...it must be with a person's own will.
Jalal knows it and every Muslim does...so courtiers will agree with it.
and rahi baat revenue ki, Hindus r committing suicide due to unable to pay jaziya and it is again a sin..toh sab jaziya pay nahi karparahe hai (loss) aur unnki jaan bhi jarahi hai (sin)...only rescue is converting..but u cant do it forcibly as per Islam and if all convert with their will then the revenue dont stand as per Mughal law.

so removing jaziya from Hindu awam without letting them changing their religion is the best way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ruks will be exposed for sure. I feel this track and ruks track is interlinked. My dearest friends , dont loose hope. sab teek ho jayega...todays epi for me was a change...:)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice write up Maddy... Today's episode was actually a breath of fresh air... Kitne Dino baad my BP was normal after watching the show...
I loved my tedi Jodha... She knows how to make her husband see her point... Loved the scene where Jodha was standing in the queue for paying the taxes... And loved Jalal's expression on seeing her... And her dialogue ke "hum bhi toh ek haari hui Hindu hai"... Loved the way she showed Ruqu her aukat... Jodha's arguments were perfect and Jalal did not have any answer... That Is why I love Jodha so much...

I am already enjoying Birbal and Jodha and Birbal and Jalal scenes... I hope we get to see such scenes more often.. I liked Birbal's way of making Sahensha see what is right... I am so damn egar to see Ruqu being snapped by Birbal tomorrow...

What the hell this Ruqu thinks of herself when Jalal is standing and continously refusing To take Jazia from Jodha then how dare she take that bag from Jodha... And Jalal is just standing without even saying anything... Why can't he open his mouth infront of Ruqu..


Leave that after so long time I liked Jalal today... Loved his dialogue "Jodha Begum aap haar nehi sakti " Jalal knew what is right and what is wrong in his heart but God knows what is stopping him...



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oh by the way joke of the millennium "Hum Jodha Begam ko ab pasand karte hai " " lol what a joke!!!! Aise logo ki pasandida hone se toh acha hai Jodha ko koi pasand hi na Kare!!!! Lagta hai Begam - E - Khas ko pasand shabd ka Matlab nehi Pata Isiliye bol diya...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

loved the episode... abt precap i think it will be like this :

In DEK Jo will tell Jalal that since both her kids r half hindu so she will pay for them as their mother... Akbar and everybody will be shocked... and ruku will raise the objection saying one kid is her and so it will be mughal and so it will not pay tax...

so Jo will agree saying it's fine so she will pay tax for her kid...and there birbal will raise the question when the two kids have same mother and father, how can there be difference btw two? while one of the kid will pay tax for lifetime, second one will get all privilages and enjoy every right as mughal... what reply Shehenshah will give to his own kids, why he is treating both in different way? won't it create rift and hatred btw both brothers when they grow up???

and same way, subjects too r like children of the king so how can there be different laws for them?? matter solved for Akbar... Jiziya abolished forever...



Excellent point Diksha . Kudos for your thoughts .

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