Downfall of SD, Updt on BB Pg 9, Abhay Updt Pg 18-DT NT Pg21&31 - Page 13

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Bang on.Absolutely correct.
Charu but don't you feel serial is going too fast .Like Jalal went to war, None of the begums were shown doing goodbye and Jo's aarti and all.He was shown directly arrived.No welcome and all.
I mean they are going too fast.Hope they won't show Kids birth and death in one go.



Yes, I think so too regarding romantic scenes. Its okay as long as I get to see them in one frame. I would love to see both JJ stronger. I am not interested in just watching Jalal the emperor..Would love to see the growth of both Jalal and Jodha. The TRPs do show that people are interested to see this only and not just Jalal which for me is a blessing in disguise..

@bold: Rashmi, I am still laughing...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chitterati


Yes, it is going way too fast...even yesterday Jalal's return to palace was too abrupt...considering how much cvs love dragging, I wonder what could be the reason behind this rushed approach? Neither did we get a scene on Jo worrying g about Jalal so sudden,y going in war... More than the story I used to love how the tracks played out last year, but post separation track nothing seems to be in order and lacks subtlelity that was a major asset of the screen play


Not only are they rushing , there is no connectivity between scenes as a result , I see improper continuity also . Look at the awful camera work both yesterday and today .
Why is there negativity toward Paridhi ? Some please update me . Other than reading a few posts and replying to them , I've no clue as to what else is happening . Is she being blamed for the lack of romantic scenes or have I missed out on something ?
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu


Not only are they rushing , there is no connectivity between scenes as a result , I see improper continuity also . Look at the awful camera work both yesterday and today .
Why is there negativity toward Paridhi ? Some please update me . Other than reading a few posts and replying to them , I've no clue as to what else is happening . Is she being blamed for the lack of romantic scenes or have I missed out on something ?



Its always there nah. there is nothing new about this. Mostly for romantic scenes and as well as her bhashans it seems. CVs needs to be blamed if anything wrong with the scenes , not the actors. Today I really liked Jodha and Jalal. Both balanced each other and loved the way Jalal was looking at JO when talking to BB. Both were in Sync..May be my expectations are very low so I am happy..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu


CONTD ____________ FROM THE MORNING POST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



I am penning my thoughts about today's episode , as a continuation of my post from this morning .
Bakshi reacted exactly the way I feared she would . I expected nothing better from a person in her position .

She is emotionally and physically scarred and wounded. Her loving brother jumps to her defense . What does she do ? Stands up for her abusive husband . Wake up Bakshi ------ You need help .

We were all angry and upset at her stupidity . In spite of repeated requests from her brother , she was petrified to show the scars on her face , because she very well knew that Jalal would beat up SD to pulp ( and rightly so ) . Why is she behaving so weirdly ?

Her mind actually believes that she is responsible for Sharifuddin's behavior . His constant taunts have also led her to believe that she had committed some huge mistake by not mothering a baby boy . Her inferiority complex and low self esteem also lead her to believe that Sharif ogles at other women because she is not good enough for him .

This is exactly why she has defended him much to the shock of her brother . She is guilty and holds herself responsible for Sharif's behavior .The emotion that she feels for Sharif is fear , not love . It does not matter that she is a princess . She has everything good going for her , the love of her family , her brother's love and support but still all she cares for , is the love of her super abusive lecherous husband .

Victims of abuse , hold themselves responsible for the abuse . They are programmed to think that way .This is why they never defend themselves , share their woes or accept help from an outside source . Very often they have no self esteem , are depressed , stressed and anxious and do not have clarity in thought , word and action . Oftentimes they end their lives , unable to cope with the stress .

These days there are counseling services and all kinds of help , including medication for anxiety and depression , available for victims of abuse . However 400 years back , a woman was always held responsible for all her husbands faults . We all saw how everyone attacked Bakshi for lying , without giving a thought as to what could have possessed her to do such a thing .

I have a very strong feeling that the Creatives are going to surprise us by showing something totally unexpected from the meek , submissive , abused Bakshi . The scum bag Sharif may try harming the baby and that is when Bakshi will shock herself , by attacking him . Better still , he may get hit by Jodha herself , when he tries to misbehave with her . SD may also try to attack Jalal for publicly disgracing him and get beaten up nicely in the process .

I loved the manner in which Jalal punched Sharif. I felt that asking the ladies to slipper him was too light a punishment for this wretch . The women were hesitant and did not do a good job of hitting him . Jalal should have skinned this monster and then applied salt on his wounds . He is definitely not going to leave SD alone . He will get to the crux of the matter and figure out all his other wrong doings too . I felt that the shehenshah lost his stand , when he had to bow down to his sister's unreasonable and wrong request , by stopping the punishment being meted to his atrocious brother-in-law . He was prevented from doing the right thing . However his picking up the sword in anger is an indication that a feud of some kind is in the offing . This time SD escaped due to Bakshi's interference , however Jalal should catch him alone and pulverize him . I will be one happy viewer . ( Parag Tyagi deserves praise for the wonderful portrayal of Sharifuddin )

I am sincerely hoping that the Creatives show us a reformed , sensible , strong and brave Bakshi who actually stands up for herself and her baby girl . I also want to see other ladies in the harem , besides Jodha and Salima standing up for Bakshi's cause , especially Hamida Begum , Bakshi's mother . If Hamida Bano sets an example of being strong , this will automatically give emotional strength to Bakshi . I want to see normal women , with normal personalities and reactions . I know that we have to put up with the highly abnormal Rukkaiyya for some more time . I feel the other ladies in the harem should also have roles to play besides standing like well dressed mannequins .





Awesome post Charu...

@bold: I would love to see it too.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chitterati


Frankly TE she ee thik hai, but I don't want a history lesson, I watched the show a different kind if love story which is now gone 😭



same here...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



Its always there nah. there is nothing new about this. Mostly for romantic scenes and as well as her bhashans it seems. CVs needs to be blamed if anything wrong with the scenes , not the actors. Today I really liked Jodha and Jalal. Both balanced each other and loved the way Jalal was looking at JO when talking to BB. Both were in Sync..May be my expectations are very low so I am happy..


Ok , for those who want to see romance , what exactly do they have in mind ?. I am quite happy with the romantic quotient between Jodha / Jalal . I agree more scenes with husband / wife bonding can be shown . However what has the Creatives decision of not including romantic scenes between the lead pair got to do with Paridhi ? If she is refusing to do extra intimate scenes , then I support her .There is a certain limit and protocol that she is following . What is wrong with that ? Even A listers in Bollywood have restrictions with doing intimate scenes . This a serial on tv being watched by family audiences . For those who are watching Jodha Akbar hoping to see intense passionate romance with lip locks et all , you need to choose another show to watch . A historical needs to maintain its dignity . Also if Pari was really fussy and picky as the media claims , a hard taskmaster like Ekta Kapoor would have shown her the door long time back .
Regarding the dialogues given to the actors , it is done as per the story line by the script writer . Pari speaks her dialogues after memorizing them as per the scenes' demand . How is it her fault ? If a particular scene has a dialogue that is a "bhashan " , its bad enough she has to learn it by heart and then say it with proper expressions and now the icing on the cake is , she is being criticized for it . She does not ask for the bhashans , the script writer gives them to her . Criticize the script writer . Both Rajat and Pari do not need to show passionate romance . Them merely being together and looking at each other does the magic . They have immense screen presence and electrifying chemistry .Their good looks and magnetic personality does everything for them .
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu



Ok , for those who want to see romance , what exactly do they have in mind ?. I am quite happy with the romantic quotient between Jodha / Jalal . I agree more scenes with husband / wife bonding can be shown . However what has the Creatives decision of not including romantic scenes between the lead pair got to do with Paridhi ? If she is refusing to do extra intimate scenes , then I support her .There is a certain limit and protocol that she is following . What is wrong with that ? Even A listers in Bollywood have restrictions with doing intimate scenes . This a serial on tv being watched by family audiences . For those who are watching Jodha Akbar hoping to see intense passionate romance with lip locks et all , you need to choose another show to watch . A historical needs to maintain its dignity . Also if Pari was really fussy and picky as the media claims , a hard taskmaster like Ekta Kapoor would have shown her the door long time back .

Regarding the dialogues given to the actors , it is done as per the story line by the script writer . Pari speaks her dialogues after memorizing them as per the scenes' demand . How is it her fault ? If a particular scene has a dialogue that is a "bhashan " , its bad enough she has to learn it by heart and then say it with proper expressions and now the icing on the cake is , she is being criticized for it . She does not ask for the bhashans , the script writer gives them to her . Criticize the script writer . Both Rajat and Pari do not need to show passionate romance . Them merely being together and looking at each other does the magic . They have immense screen presence and electrifying chemistry .Their good looks and magnetic personality does everything for them .



U have said it all and I agree with you..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: preetgurti




ayushi sorry for commenting late was bit busy

Kuch naam bane hi saath lene ke liye hotey hai
few names are destned to pronounce together
jodha akbar is such name when u see you will find two names but when u speak or say u fine nd it as one

hum dono ek naam hai do dil ek armaan hai

hearts two but beat as one minds are two but think on same path

Tum agar saath dene ka vada karo main yun hi mast naghme lutata rahon

There taqdeer is meant to be together there kismat is connected
ek ka accha karm dusre ka accha phal ban jata hai

they walk alone alot but now they are there for each other
together both can do wonders jab humdum ho saath duniya khoobsurat hojati hai
there world is beautiful with eachother around eachother

the two names jitna bhi karle alag nhi n karsakte u try also still u cant
saath rehna inki taqdeer kismat thi aur rahenge sada
it power of there love that after 450 years hum na noe naam saath hi lete hai

There love have a power of saath sur parkarti ke saath rang saath mausam
jodha akbar saath has humesha

the team is rocking

Preet, Your line , touching, Soul.👏 👏

Tere Mere Sapane, Ab Yek Rang Hain

Jahaa Bhee Le Jaaye Raahe, Hum Sang Hain


Mere Tere Dil Kaa, Tay Thaa Yek Din Milanaa

Jaise Bahaar Aane Par, Tay Hain Fool Kaa Khilanaa

O Mere Jeewan Saathee.. ..



Tere Dukh Ab Mere, Mere Sukh Ab Tere

Tere Ye Do Nainaa, Chaand Aaur Suraj Mere

O Mere Jeewan Saathee.. ..


Laakh Manaa Le Duniyaa, Saath Naa Ye Chhootegaa

Aa Ke Mere Haathon Me, Haath Naa Ye Chhootegaa

O Mere Jiivan Saathii...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: preetgurti

Thought for the day to all Jodha akbar admirer here

Tu pyaar ka sagar hai teri ek boond ke pyaase hum
lauta jo diya tumne chale jaayenge jaha se hum


teri hai zameen tera asmaan tu bada mehrbaan tu bakshish kar
sabhi ka hai tu sabhi tere khuda mere tu bakshish kar

Bakshi girl child need love from whole sultanat betiyan bahut pyaari hoti hai
jodha akbar love her so much

Juhi Ki Kali Meri Laadali

Naazon Ki Pali Meri Laadali

O Aas-Kiran Jug-Jug Tu Jie

Nanhi Si Pari Meri Laadali, O Meri Laadali


Ganga Ki Lahar Meri Laadali

Chanchal Saagar Meri Laadali,

O Aas-Kiran Jug-Jug...


Yes preet, Daughters are also very sweet. this song for cute, Baby girls. Whose, smile, comes, Everybody face, smile. Yes, Bakshi, Girl child need a Lot of Love,;;;;;;;;;;;But strange thing is this,Everyone loves her;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;leaving his father.

But i think, is Going to made a law, On monday episode, against domastic,volience, +Safty, of Girl Child, by Akbar +jodha.






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Posted: 11 years ago

Hi All,

My Short Take on JJ in particular, and BB also LATER, in my second comment.!.

I have not read anything else other than this thread, and it seems i did the right after reading the chain of comments...😉

B'coz , I did not find ANY Bhaashans...Instead i was quite satisfied to see the "calculated" approach, which the CV's Followed...Jodha was JUST RIGHT and did not cross any Line...Jalal was behaving like an Emperor and a HURT Brother...

Also, i would say that the NORMAL Audience, do not worry about "Frame" aspect. I, for one, did not notice that, there was anything like that(if it was). I found the Episode, nice enough. 😊

As i have been writing since my 15th August Post ,🥱 and written in all my Historical Posts also, that the Show needs to show Jodha as Jalal's Emotional Strength.. Finally, we are getting this. 😃

Afterall, now the CV's are showing it in a Balanced Way , as i said before on Page-1 of this thread , that >> It contains an EQUAL PARTNERSHIP of the Wise thinking of an Empire expanding Emperor ABLY supported with a maturely thinking Empress.!.

An aisa to hai nahi ki CV's will show Jodha ruling the Empire.. They are assigning the Work of an Emperor to Akbar and that of an Empress(MUZ in making) to Jodha...This, in my thinking is their method of showing Jodha-Akbar centric TRACKS..


For NO Matter What, How Strong You are , How ResourceFul You Are, You can NOT manage ALL thingS Single Handedly . This is what we all WANTED , a show where BOTH J-J play on an "
Equal Footing(US States Doctrine😉)". < Hope i made this clear.😉 It means , that NO Authority will exceed it's jurisdiction. Similarly, Jalal and Jodha are have their "spheres of influence(credit for this term-Chinese Imperialism)😉".

The CV's are trying to Weave the Tracks to Show Jalal on an Empire expanding spree, while the Royal Ladies handling the other core issues of the Harem, and TOGETHER J-J handling these Scoial Issues. I think that after this track of BB, Jalal can announce some reform for a Girl Child(like share in property.?).


Who says an Emperor does not needs an Emotional support.. Even the HARDCORE IMPERIALIST and expansionist Napoleon wrote this in a letter he sent to his brother, here he talks about Josephine(his wife), and PLEADED her to join him on his Italian Campaign, a he was feeling very Lonely..!.>>>

"I must see her and press her to my heart. I love her to the point of madness, and I cannot continue to be separated from her. If she no longer loved me, I would have nothing left to do on earth."

^^^^Before reading this i had a VERY different opinion about him, but this letter made me search more on his personal life...It's interesting..😉..Anyways, coming back to our SHOW now...😃

I have noticed that the Personal Life of any Emperor/King/Monarch, has many shades, and is actually very interesting...I can read about the Wars and Reforms and many things from the biographies, but his personal Life study demands digging something after going a step forward...That is entirely a different process...

There is NOTHING called Ruling ALONE
...An Emperor rules with the help of many agencies..Some suport him actively, and some support him passively...I was Glad to see Man Singh and TodarMal on Thurday, And, i am hoping for Jodha's elevation as an Empress..Already, Monday's Precap shows, Jalal saying that - She deserves to be MUZ..!..

No doubt we all want a Good and Strongly Commanding Akbar.. But, the Show can NOT run only by one thing, that is to focus and make tracks Akbar oriented. Atleast, till now, NO TRACK is Akbar oriented, as they show Jodha on Equal footing on an Emotional Wavelength.

I think CV's are trying to show us NEITHER Akbar oreinted tracks, nor Jodha Oriented tracks, BUT Jodha-Akbar oriented tracks..
And, that is why the CV's have brought Sharif's track in 2 ways ---->>

1. They will show some reform on the Girl Child. { Courtesy - Partnership of Jodha/Salima, etc.}
2. And, then they will show Sharif's Revolt { And, Jalal will fight him, then..}

^^To ho gaya na, Jodha-Akbar Oriented.😉


I don't know about anyone, but i signed in for Jodha-Akbar, not for Akbar ONLY or Jodha ONLY... 😃
And, as far as my marketing knowledge tells me, before launching(or even starting) a serial, many standard processes are followed by the Channel/PH, viz. Sensitivity Analysis, etc. techiques, to check will it be profitable and business friendly to launch so and so soap... Ekta, being a clever business woman knows what she is DOING.




Coming to BB's Case::


I will NOT give my judgement, as i have already read many contrasting views here and all arguments are nice enough. 👍🏼 Many of us have mentioned BB's case to be that of a domestic abuse/violence...I have only one thing, that BB's Condition still resembles the dark reality of our society which we call MODERN..

I want to mention a "real case", of which i know the details..The incident is from Delhi, which we call a Metropolitan. The Case of this higher middle class educated girl is similar to BB. She delivered a boy and then a girl. But her husband was keen on having a boy ONLY(despite having a son already). She was a victim of worst form of domestic abuse, and finally went into "abode of God after enormous sufferings". The Case is still pending in the Delhi HC. An startling observation in this case was that, the girl even on her death bed, did NOT want her parents to pursue the case against her husband, for she said she LOVED him.!!!!.😕.!!!!.. *Full Stop*

What i want to emphasize in this case is that, this track of BB brought back those memories alive, that still we have such cases,...And, even after a lot of assessment of that case, i could not understand the case completely...In BB's case, i want her to be a bit strong..As there are times, when one needs to hit back and fight. You need not be a victim always. Especially, in case of BB when you have a Strong Brother who Loves you to an extent that he can bring heavens on Earth for you...

My Stand is that >> " Our opinions are based on the experiences, we have in our lives. Many of may have high degree of patience to some acts, but some of us may not have the same degree of resilience to the same act. A strong reason can be that, some of us MIGHT have experienced those "acts" in reality, hence we do NOT approve of it.. I for one, strongly condemn this act, for i have seen such victims. And, the very portrayal of that SAME act on the Screen brings back those sad memories alive..."

I have one request from the CV's that, since they are showing this track in today's time --

1. Already, they have given a strong message in form of showing that Girl Child is not a Burden..
2. Jalal did punish Sharif (though, i don't want to discuss the method of punishment.)
3. One thing, i would like them to show is that, BB should realize that Sharif does not deserves her Devotion.!!.There is no need to suffer so much...I do not understand what Kind of Devotion it is when Sharif openly stares Jodha infront of BB.!!!..

@ALL...
I may not be able to join regularly, but i keep reading these discussions and your takes...
Carry on...!!!..😊


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