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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Hey Mansi, how r u? Glad to hear that ur mom is fine now.
I too liked jodha n jalals convo in yesterdays epi although jalal saying that he would give the throne to his daughter did seem a bit far fetched for those times but still its ok. As for bakshi the only word i have is irritating. What did she think she was doing? Jalal is going to be so embarrased on finding out the truth after declaring it in the dek that its a boy n didnt she think her husband will kill her when he finds out abt her lie.
Her switching the baby is a possibility as she is too terrified of losing a loser like shareef but is she that sick so as to gice up her child remains to be seen. I was happy that this time jodha decided to tell salima n HB the teuth instead of trying to handle it herself. If bakshi does change the child she could get into major trouble with the whole family but even then i think salima n her will go in a nancy drew mode n find out the truth as a mother cannot stay away from her child for too long.
As for ruqqaiya well she gives me the creeps. Question is is jalals word bigger than a sin of seperating a child from a mother. Will jalal be able to see that ruqqaiyas intention is to get the MUZ title n not the kid or will he be taken by her pretense of wanting to be a motger too?

See this is what I also fear .. this Jalal seems otherwise brainy but what happens to his brains when Ruq does her pretenses?😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Mansi yday episode is ok n loved JJ scenes... But feeling very sad aftr reading confirmed spoiler abt ruk seperating kids... Can't they kill ruk in name of natakiya rupantar... That wil b gonna best NR till date... Kids seperation Thoght is only killing me inside n making me depressed...

JJ scenes were lovely strtd with name keeping for kids and jalal love for daughters... i may sound pessimistic but want to vent out evrythng...aftr seeing episode i feel many of things may not happen btw jj which we all wanted

1)First is jalal said he wil b with jo during her delivery n i dnt think he wil b there for sme reasons
2)second is jalal happiness aftr seeing bb baby...we may not get same to see such scene wen jo delivers...
y im saying is bcz we all saw jalal happiness during ruk fp track wen he heard of ruk preg news...we expected same thing for jo but finally wat we got was jj fight n then hug...that was not that much effective wen the jo preg news came...now im fearing same may happen aftr jo delievry also bcz of sme silly n twisted reasons given by cvs lik ruk asking for wish before birth which may shock jalal..

wen it cmes to akdha cvs always disappoint us...we saw previously also all romantic moments were interupted by ruk or smeothers n even happy moments lik preg news...

i hope no mu btw akdha bcz of this damn bakshi sharif matter...i think jo wil support girl child so as jalal n this wil make sharif go agaisnt jo n plot on her...also heard that bb gave birth to stillborn so I guess sharif wil kill daughter aftr knowing truth..

the most irritated sceene is cradle in ruk room...i want jalal to ask ruk to choose only one btw baby n muz audha n there he gets answer n wil know how much low can his frn stoop...

Mansi I cudnt understand how can jalal grant wishes like these... Even in first JJ sword fight he said to Jo y dint she ask his sar with her Farman but she asked for moti life... So if any other begum gets Farman lik that n asks jalal death wil he die?? Jo was using wishes to save moti n khyber but Now bloody ruk wil ask kid n MUZ title as her wish... How can jalal grant that?? Other begums also hv wishes suppose one of the begum is very angry n ask other kid as her wish wil jalal grant that also?? Aren't there any rules or limitations for asking wishes ??

Why does this Jalal go around giving these types of free wishes to people like Ruq who will misuse these wishes? That too she has two wishes, one of which was given to her by Jodha already doing a maha tyaag of her wish! Now I am waiting for Salima to use her one wish to nullify the two wishes of Ruq!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12


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Why does this Jalal go around giving these types of free wishes to people like Ruq who will misuse these wishes? That too she has two wishes, one of which was given to her by Jodha already doing a maha tyaag of her wish! Now I am waiting for Salima to use her one wish to nullify the two wishes of Ruq!


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Mansi I cudnt understand this wishes... If begums gets wishes lik these won't they ask death of kids ?? Begums lik ruk n chuchak r power hungry n can do anything for that... Won't chuchak ask death of jalal if she got Farman lik that from humayun so that Mirza wil b next heir to throne?? Same won't ruk ask jalal death of Jo kid as her another wish so that her adopted one becomes nxt heir n not Jo baby? Jalal shud stop granting wishes to begums... Now he can't do anythng as he alredy granted wishes
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have heard that babies after they come out of their mothers womb are very vulnerable and sensitive... The only person they recognise is their mother.. They Can only stay well in the familiar warmth of their mothers lap., they can only recognise their mothers touch... And it's only the mother who can understand her child's requirements from their antiques... If this is true then how come Jodha Jalal not understand this... Forget about HB should also know all these na then she should also object... No promise or Mahanta or any other thing for that matter should be important for parents than their child's wellbeing and both Jalal and Jodha should not give in to this demand of Ruku.. I will literally kill JJ if they give one of their child to his Jaan Begam... Mansi Di the very thought of this baby sharing is irritating... God knows how what are the creatives up to.. As much as I am fed up with Ruku I am also fed up of JaJo's Mahanta and generosity for Ruku... It has become nakabil -e- bardest for me now..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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uq choose and why - it's worth pondering about!

When Ruq was having that conversation with the harem Begum about wives who have no children falling in their husband's esteem, one very important sentence was spoken by that harem Begum. She said "See how Jodha's estimation has gone up in Jalal's eyes as she's now carrying the waarises. IF ONE OF THEM IS A BOY, JODHA WILL BECOME THE MARIUM UZ ZAMANI!"

Aha, so there's a catch here. It appears as if there is conditionality attached to becoming the Marium Uz Zamani. The mother gets that title only if she produces the "male heir" to the throne. This sentence of the harem Begum slightly reduces the value of what Jalal told Jodha that even if his daughters were girls he would give them the throne. It seems to me now that the daughters themselves will have as much entitlement to the throne as their brothers may have. But the mother's MUZ audha is a different story entirely. The mother can become Marium Uz Zamani only if a male heir to the throne is produced.

So now we have an interesting conundrum here! What if both babies are girls. Will neither Jodha nor Ruq get the MUZ title even if Ruq takes one daughter as hers. And if there is no title to be got will Ruq not want one baby at all if both are girls?

If the twins are born as one boy and one girl, will Ruq grab the boy baby for the sake of the title, even if the girl baby is older to the boy by a few minutes?

If both the twins are boys, will Ruq take the first born boy who inherits the throne for the sake of the audha?

And what will happen if the first born boy is taken by Ruq for the claim to the audha of MUZ but that first born baby dies making the second born twin boy the next in line to the throne. Will Ruq then lose the MUZ position to Jodha?



Mansi, Amazing analysis, You nailed this scene, , Perfect, perfect, perfect,👏 👏

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Rashmi, I am getting one strange idea. As per history the girl child of BB was still born right? So now that Jodha knows its a girl, and she is forced in the precap to tell Salima and Hamida also, will these three women actually save the baby by switching this girl baby with some other dead boy baby and saying that is the male baby of Bakshi but it suddenly died? Maybe this girl baby will be given to some bandhi to be brought up with care under the monitoring of Hamida, Salima, Jodha and Bakshi?

Mansi, that can happen but from where will they get a just born dead male baby so soon. All they can do is to announce that the baby has caught some infection and no one is allowed to visit the same till it gets better and meanwhile look out for a alternative. However the chances are low.
Further I think Sharif will get to know about the baby's gender and in his fury he may squeeze it hard which may stop its breathing or throw it roughly which may cause death. The moment he realizes the truth of killing the child, he may run away.
But how the hell Maham will be a alive for the next 6 months or so and how will she be able to kill Jodha's kids while she will be living in the dark jail? Does it mean Resham will still be serving her and may help her to kill the children or will that dark, isolated jail room also will have a surang which runs to Jodha's hojra? And why will Jodha not go to her maika for her first delivery?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Folks, here's a tangential thought from Diksha worth pondering about ... she has sent me an SMS saying "Will BB change her daughter with a boy of some other woman and thus again try to prove that Jodha is lying? Will this create a rift between Jalal and Jodha?"

Hmmm ...😲 I've added this also at the end of my post!



no as hakima sahibaa will be jodha's proof of truth.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12


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Jais, I think this BB doesn't want to lose Sharif as she has already lost one husband. But still this kind of dorrmat behaviour accepting his physical cruelty is deplorable!


I know she do no not to become widow but still if she will say jalal about this shariff will have some fear and will think about twice before hitting bakshi. Aur aisa to hoga nahi ki jalal shariff ko phasi par latga denga.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---jais---


I know she do no not to become widow but still if she will say jalal about this shariff will have some fear and will think about twice before hitting bakshi. Aur aisa to hoga nahi ki jalal shariff ko phasi par latga denga.

Unfortunate thing is that no lady wants to picture her husband as evil in front her brother. She will show the rainbow colour to her brother even if her husband has only one dark, black colour all over him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi...good to see you back with full analysis. Yesterdays episode was a light and a happy one even with crazy ruks stupid plan. After going true that breakdown baksi's babies arrival is like a sunshine for Agra. JJ are back to normal. But even though Jalal was telling Jo about not taking stress, I just can't stop thinking about Atifa track. Better late than never. All their scenes where very nice throughout the epi. They where together when even in the crowd. They seemed inseparable. The happiness on Jalal face when taking the baby and the way Jodha playing with the baby later was worth watching. Bring laddoo, I guess is just an excuse to see the baby. Now there will naming ceremony soon. In Agra, Jashn is equivalent to disaster. So now Jo knows its a girl and she shared it with Salima begum and HB which is good. Lets see what happens.

Now Shariff and BB. When viewing them we should keep JJ aside because they are one unique pair whose thinking is beyond their era. The thing is man blames the woman for giving birth to girl baby but the truth is man are solely responsible in determining the gender of the child. Unfortunately there is no genetic studies those days but this issue does happens even today in some corner of world. The believe that boys are superior to girl is not something new. Shariff is a man who does not respect woman, thinks they are just commodity who satisfy his needs. He married only to be part of royal family and gain power by hook or crook. Him biting BB just before delivery and demanding for son must have terrified BB. What if she have said that i is a girl. Shariff with no heart may have killed the baby the very moment before anyone can do anything. So out of fear she lied. But she should not carried on, at least should have told the truth to HB, her mother. BB if a person who is not evil or think bad but the problem is she does not think at all. She only follows. She is selfish. She is does not have any self esteem or confidence in her to even to think that her thoughts is right. She is so used to it of being unhappy and never bothered to make effort to be happy. Sometimes i dont understand how can Agra inmates live under one roof but as strangers. Only HB, Salima and Jo are only people who seems to be living in a family. Others are like guest in hotel. Now regarding gender discrimination, I read a book, a biography of Saudi princess, title Princess written by Jean Sasson. This book gives an inside view on the emotions of woman in great detail. Ruks emotions also can some how be understandable. Possibility of Baksi switching baby is nil. And I think Baksi loves her child very much. I want to see at least a little strong Baksi due to her love for her child. I want her to think of her child's well being even if she wants to hate Jodha, I done mind coz Jalal is there with Jodha and that is the only thing Jodha wants.

Coming to Ruks, she is crazy like split personality. What trigger her insanity is the word MUZ. This word should be banned around ruks earshot. Its clear that she wants to share the twin children. But does ruks have the patients to wait until delivery of the babies to ask her wish. Does she have the brain to think what if the children are girls coz in Agra when one is pregnant it is assumed that it is waris, male. Only JJ are exception. She is short sighted person. Her plans always have jumbo size loopholes. I want Jalal to realise the intention of Ruks when she make the wish and she can be easily tricked too. I dont want Jalal act majboor or Jodha all sad but gives the child away. Let him out smart ruks. I dont like this baby being separated from mother when we know how responsible is Ruks or anyone in Agra. Another question is how can maham kill the babies being in jail? she needs outside and a perfect partner would be Ruks. Will Shariff join in too? We viewers going to be tortured by this mentally imbalanced people of Agra paagalkhana.


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