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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: preetgurti



I was crying it was sooo beautiful how he sleep in her amrs how she held him
akdha today touch different chord

same here Preet...didnt even realize kab rone lagi main...😭
beauty sometimes comes with lots of emotions.

Jalal falling asleep was the cherry on the cake...❤️
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: tamy267


same here Preet...didnt even realize kab rone lagi main...😭
beauty sometimes comes with lots of emotions.

Jalal falling asleep was the cherry on the cake...❤️



you know tammy same here I don't know when I started crying
today they gonne so ahead
jodha line
mata pita ya santan kuch bhi nhin bas aap
today jodha akbar just madeva shell of there own where no one can peek in
these two just went so ahead
how khud ko khoo ke aap paa lete ho kissi ko
aaj indon ne paa liye ek duje ko
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Not necessity, not desire - no, the love of power is the demon of men. Let them have everything - health, food, a place to live, entertainment - they are and remain unhappy and low-spirited; for the demon waits and waits and will be satisfied.

Friedrich Nietzsche

The tide is turning in Jalal's life. The past is ebbing away, the present is uncertain, and the future tentative.

He is in the throes of a moral crisis.

Yesterday when he saw himself for the first time in the mirror, all painted with blood, Jalal woke up from the numbness of not just that moment, but from the numbness of a lifetime, in which he had witnessed many a struggle for power and authority in Hindustan, symbolised by the Mughal throne.

Yesterday, he suddenly became aware that his hands were covered with blood, not just literally but also figuratively speaking. It was one of the most life-changing moments for Jalal. Like the moment that changed Ashoka forever after he witnessed the devastation he had caused to win Kalinga.

In an instant, he was filled with repugnance and self-loathing. He rushed to wash off that blood and with it the guilt that had lain hidden inside his heart for years - guilt associated with his struggle against his own family to retain the Mughal takht. When Jalal was trying to wash all that blood from his hands in the hamam and screaming his soul out for the latest person he had lost as the price for keeping the takht - for an instant, he reminded me of Lady Macbeth. His hands refused to stop scrubbing at the stubborn blood that seemed to drip from the wounds of all the people who had died so that Jalal could sit on the throne. I felt that his mind was continuously replaying his past and no amount of water was able to cleanse him of his guilt.

This internal struggle within himself spilled over into today's episode. After Mahamanga had cursed him to mourn for his kids as she mourned for her son, again the past started replaying in Jalal's mind. He couldn't fathom why, in spite of being the Shahenshah of Hindustan, he was doomed to remain alone and had to witness his loved ones departing and the ones who wanted to dethrone/kill him increasing around him.

Who knows what true loneliness is - not the conventional word but the naked terror?
Joseph Conrad

I feel anyone who is in some position of power or who wants to be in some position of power ought to see those moments (yesterday and today) wherein Jalal tried to expunge his innermost demons of guilt and fear in outbursts that seemed to tear his soul apart. He lamented the throne to which he was stuck for it had turned even his foster parents against him. It had divided his family and robbed him of the love of a family, the affection of friends, and the trust of comrades.

I had not been quite ready to accept Jalal as a throne-burning kind of person. But today, when he burnt the throne, it seemed the most natural thing in the world to do at the time. His extreme loneliness, the angst he felt in his heart, the struggle he was unable to resolve in his mind - between wanting to love and be loved and the realization that people loved his throne more than him and even those who he had regarded as his mothers would not think twice before killing him - every feeling arose slowly like smoke from burning cinders.

Here was a man who was crumbling in front of our eyes and clearly needed someone to bring back before he was annihilated by his own raw emotions.

I was spell-bound to watch Jalal today, expressing all his pent up grief and rage through his eyes initially and later through a very violent physical gesture.





Radhika... I stand up and salute you for this wonderful piece of writing... Each and every line of your post so beautifully depicted the Sahansha which we saw in last few episodes... Beautiful beautiful post.. It was a treat to read...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Abhay,I don't know how much praise I can lavish on this marvelous piece of writing. You have once again shown us the big picture.

This historical story is no bed of roses, tremendous hardships have to endured, great losses have to borne but the cumulative effect is still worth remembering with a positive state of mind. After all, it is the way you handle hardships that is a true measure of the human spirit, the stuff of legends.

Abhay, your post once again proves you are indispensable. If our forum is like a hotel then it gets an extra star just by your presence.

It helps that your thread usually houses the other star, Radhika. Wow!, Our hotel is already up to 2 stars.
Edited by Donjas - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Tumhe chhu ke pal mein bani dhool chandanTumhari mehak se mehakane lage tannMehakane lage tann...Mere paas aao gale se lagaoPiya aur tumse main kya chahati hoon

Tumhen dekthi hoon to lagta hai aise,Ke jaise yugon se tumhe jaanti hoonAgar tum ho sagar, main pyaasi nadee hoon,Agar tum ho sawan, main jalti kali hoonPiya tum ho sagar...

Ayushi akdha scene was so beautiful and I am missing your qoutes songs
here is one

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Posted: 10 years ago
#46
Jodha the Matrix
Just as life is changing forever for Jalal, so too is it changing for Jodha. For the one without the other is nothing.

While Jalal had pursued and won Jodha for her beauty and grace, he was himself defeated by the purity of her soul and the nobility of her thoughts. More and more I see that he is no longer looking to just spend the night with her but every wakeful moment. For life is suddenly becoming extremely ugly and pushing him swiftly towards the gorge of wretchedness.

Jodha is to him like a mother who can kiss all his pain and anguish away with a gentle smile on her lips. Whether he was stirred by Adham's outburst in the DEK or deadened by his own uncontrollable emotions upon Atga's death, he sought her out to sooth his ravaged heart and offer solace to a mind struggling to resolve a myriad conflicting emotions.

Today, he was so lost in his own wretchedness that he felt as if he had to renounce his throne - the throne that had led him to lose the people closest to his heart in one way or the other. But he forgot one thing in his misery. That he is no longer alone but has a passionate companion who would be by his side through fair weather and foul. Today I shudder to even call her his shadow because even a shadow leaves one in times of darkness. But today Jodha herself told Jalal that she would never leave him even if everyone else did or he no longer remained a king.

What can I call her? She is really the womb who holds Jalal close within her and doesn't let anything that can hurt him get to him. She is like the sepals that hold a fledgling bud inside their protective arms till it is ready to bloom forth.

Today, I saw two sides to her - and both sides showed her immense love for Jalal and her wish to protect him from the evil around us.

The first time, she was able to calm a Jalal shaking with venomous hatred for the throne that had split his family and made him lose some of his closest associates.

The second time, she went to meet Maham and inquire from her the reasons for her curse. She was no longer cowering in front of Maham, but a completely confident woman who knew her husband needed her more than she needed herself. Who knew that she couldn't let the Mughal sultanat die with Jalal.

To me, both the scenes were beautiful. If she was like Mother earth in one and able to calm down the struggling-with-emotions Jalal; then she was protective of him and their love in the other scene. This protective side of her came to the fore yesterday also when she uttered that beautiful shloka to spread the sheath of her goodness over him like an umbrella and guard him from the rain of sorrow that threatened to drown his soul in it.

Abhay, I haven't attempted to say anything about your post so far. Because I cannot say anything about perfection. It is and therefore, it is perfect. I was hypnotized by your explanation of the shloka as well as mesmerized by the way you have described the advent of the spiritual journey of JA.

I had felt that may be the CVs were not up to it to show anything so beautiful. How wrong I was! So far, at least, the way JJ are being shown to discover each other's soul and essence through shared grief and experiences, the track is absolutely stunning.


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Posted: 10 years ago
#47
Today as the all mighty Sahansha stood numb
infront of the Insaf Ka Tarazoo after loosing his
very last connection with his childhood , recalling
the poisonous words uttered by the lady who has
raised him, who was once his mother, his Badi
Ammi... Made him realise the heavy price he had
to pay for being The SAHANSHA OF MUGHAL
SULTANATE...
Unable to bear this he resorted to vigorous
drinking to erase his pain in DEK.. The pain is
choking him, the ghost of his past is haunting
him, the fear of losing his children is disturbing
him and he realised it was all because of thakt
on which he sits everyday.. The reason for his
suffering is this "Taakt"... His own people
betrayed him to get this "Taakt " on which he
sits and rules... His own people who was 'Aziz'
to him told that they love him was actually
pretending to be affectionate to fulfill their own
ambition from the powers which are associated
with "THE TAAKT, He lost all those whom he
loved from his Khan Baba to his Atga Sahab
because "THE Taakt".. He paid a heavy price
throughout all this years to get this "Taakt " and
to retain it... The price of being The SAHANSHA,
The Price of being "Invincible", was the life and
love of his near and dear ones... He realised that
the root cause of all his agony and discontent
was "Taakt Of Mughal Sultanate " so he decided
to uproot that very cause and without even
giving a second thought he burned "The Taakt "
to end this agony once and for all...
While all these feelings were going on in his
mind his Heart was engulfed and overwhelmed
by the feeling of loneliness... This loneliness was
killing him from inside and finally when Jodha
came he brought out all of his agony, his
aghast, his anger, his anguish, his pain, his
frustration, his loneliness which he has been
feeling all these years...
Jodha perfectly understood him and his needs...
SHE understood that the only thing he needs
was her love, her support, her warmth, her
closeness... She knew that the only thing which
can heal his aching heart was her love, the only
thing that can remove his loneliness was her
warmth, the only thing that can give him peace
was her embrace... So she with all her love
pulled him close and assured him and reminded
him that their relationship is not because of his
"Taakt" or "Taj"... She did not love him because
he is The SAHANSHA... She loves Jalal the man
and continue to do so till eternity... She will
always be there for him and with him no matter
how worst the situation may be... She will
always be there with him even if their parents,
friends and children leaves his side... His Jodha
will forever be with him even after they have long
left this materialistic world... By her words he
found new hope and a new reason to survive
and peacefully fell asleep as soon as she took
him in her warm embrace.. He slept like a child
in the arms of the person with whom he feels
safe and protected and loved forgetting all his
sufferings and worries... Today they merged into
eachother in every way and became one entity
From Here begins a new phase a new journey
with the hope of a better tomorrow where there
will be so much love, respect and togetherness
of a lifetime... From here begins the "EPIC LOVE
STORY " which will be told and retold in every
era to come... Life will take their test and that
also the toughest one but with eachothers Saath
they will not only withstand these tests but also
pass with flying colours ... From today Jodha
became Jalals shadow and in every sense his
"Wali Nimat "
Their love and togetherness will rise as a sun
which comes after a long dark night which will
give warmth light, life and happiness to the
entire Hindustan... And Hindustan will only keep
thriving and prospering under their
guardianship...
Today I found that Akbar And Marriam Uz Zamani
about whom I have read in Abhay's post in
Eakta's Jalal and Jodha.. Today it showed us the
beginning of the The eternal and divine love
which was there between Akbar and MUZ and
will be there between them till the end of time...
This is what I have always wanted to see in the
show and I am glad that I am finally getting what
I wanted...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: aanchal_c

i feel disgusted thinking the cv's will show that akbar lost his children due to a curse by an unsure soul...by a person who has never in her life loved akbar genuinely...it was only power...how can a curse by someone whose soul is as black as coal come true...is it wrong over right for the cv's...?


Bang on . This is exactly my point too . Why even include such a "ghatiya " dialogue in the form of a curse . History clearly says that the twins did not make it past a couple of months due to health issues . Now instead of stating the obvious historically , it will be dramatically shown that BADI AMMI's wicked prophecies worked on Jodha and Jalal . Hence the babies died . Why give negativity so much importance .

Having said this , in order to maintain my sanity and positivity , from now onwards every time either Mahamanga or a negative equivalent comes on screen , I will either fast forward or get up and walk away .
Edited by JAfanCharu - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Jodha the Matrix

Just as life is changing forever for Jalal, so too is it changing for Jodha. For the one without the other is nothing.

While Jalal had pursued and won Jodha for her beauty and grace, he was himself defeated by the purity of her soul and the nobility of her thoughts. More and more I see that he is no longer looking to just spend the night with her but every wakeful moment. For life is suddenly becoming extremely ugly and pushing him swiftly towards the gorge of wretchedness.

Jodha is to him like a mother who can kiss all his pain and anguish away with a gentle smile on her lips. Whether he was stirred by Adham's outburst in the DEK or deadened by his own uncontrollable emotions upon Atga's death, he sought her out to sooth his ravaged heart and offer solace to a mind struggling to resolve a myriad conflicting emotions.

Today, he was so lost in his own wretchedness that he felt as if he had to renounce his throne - the throne that had led him to lose the people closest to his heart in one way or the other. But he forgot one thing in his misery. That he is no longer alone but has a passionate companion who would be by his side through fair weather and foul. Today I shudder to even call her his shadow because even a shadow leaves one in times of darkness. But today Jodha herself told Jalal that she would never leave him even if everyone else did or he no longer remained a king.

What can I call her? She is really the womb who holds Jalal close within her and doesn't let anything that can hurt him get to him. She is like the sepals that hold a fledgling bud inside their protective arms till it is ready to bloom forth.

Today, I saw two sides to her - and both sides showed her immense love for Jalal and her wish to protect him from the evil around us.

The first time, she was able to calm a Jalal shaking with venomous hatred for the throne that had split his family and made him lose some of his closest associates.

The second time, she went to meet Maham and inquire from her the reasons for her curse. She was no longer cowering in front of Maham, but a completely confident woman who knew her husband needed her more than she needed herself. Who knew that she couldn't let the Mughal sultanat die with Jalal.

To me, both the scenes were beautiful. If she was like Mother earth in one and able to calm down the struggling-with-emotions Jalal; then she was protective of him and their love in the other scene. This protective side of her came to the fore yesterday also when she uttered that beautiful shloka to spread the sheath of her goodness over him like an umbrella and guard him from the rain of sorrow that threatened to drown his soul in it.

Abhay, I haven't attempted to say anything about your post so far. Because I cannot say anything about perfection. It is and therefore, it is perfect. I was hypnotized by your explanation of the shloka as well as mesmerized by the way you have described the advent of the spiritual journey of JA.

I had felt that may be the CVs were not up to it to show anything so beautiful. How wrong I was! So far, at least, the way JJ are being shown to discover each other's soul and essence through shared grief and experiences, the track is absolutely stunning.




Very very beautifully written Radhika .

Jodha is indeed the strength that Jalal needs right now . She is the balm for his emotional wounds .

TOGETHER they will victoriously face all obstacles in life .

Today , I loved their scene together . Paridhi Sharma was outstanding .

Edited by JAfanCharu - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: surochitadutta



Radhika... I stand up and salute you for this wonderful piece of writing... Each and every line of your post so beautifully depicted the Sahansha which we saw in last few episodes... Beautiful beautiful post.. It was a treat to read...




Simply awesome post Radhika . I am at a loss of words to describe my feelings after reading your write up . To be honest , I was extremely upset after seeing the manner in which Mahamanga had cursed the soon to be parents , Jodha and Jalal . Yelling , screaming , cursing are all a big NO NO for me , be it in real life or on screen .

I have calmed down after reading both your and Abhay's post . Instead of allowing the negativity of the vile lady to take over my sanity , I'm happy that I got to read two beautiful , positive , uplifting posts .

Thank you both ABHAY and RADHIKA .

CHARU .

Edited by JAfanCharu - 10 years ago

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