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Posted: 11 years ago
#61
What a brilliant gruesome episode.

Firstly Rajat, Chetan and Ashwini were brilliant. I usually nowadays find Ashwini's shouting very OTT but today she was just super.

I think why they showed all Begums and haram women watching the gruesome end of Adham is cos WE are the ones who are watching it like them. If they had not shown the women's reactions it would have been like some war/action stuff where all violence takes place. The starkness of Jalal's punishment to Adham was more brutul cos women watched it when they could barely do it. In the end GB averted her face.

No matter how much we think Jalal was right in ordering death of Adham Khan to watch it happen was very gruesome. Adham was thrown four times and each time dragged up like some animal carcass.

At all times there was not a single time Adham had the fear of death in his eyes, it was pure hatred for Jalal. Seeing that Jalal's rage became higher and higher.

I watched repeat only to see the reactions of ALL women.
ALL were in shock.
HB and Jodha were holding each other rather Jodha was holding HB and she NEVER tried to stop Jalal from killing Adham. Her reaction was about the MANNER of his death.
HB also could not stand it.
SB was not there at first and when she came - she opened her mouth as if to speak and then she stopped
Ruk also was scared

It is totally another thing to kill enemy and fight war and watch them being killed. There is no emotions involved with the enemies and no personal attachment. Here Adham was not an enemy just 2 mins before the scene also. He was the bad egg of family, who even Jalal when ordering his death called as his brother. Jalal addressed awam saying he killed his dudh bhai brother. So to see the violence inside the sanctity of their home, to see Jalal's life at risk and then to see so much violence has to be shocking.

Jodha's reaction WAS NEVER ABOUT ADHAM it was always about Jalal.
She got scared seeing Jalal in such a rage. I remember Jalal had told Jodha once if she saw him in battle she will not recognize him cos he becomes all crazed or animal like some such dialogues.

Jodha progressively got more scared.

Precap - Jodha is sitting on bed shaking. Jalal walks in totally bloodied with entire face covered in blood. Jodha KNOWS it is not Jalal's blood but Adham's and she is shaking when she gets up from bed away from approaching Jalal. The reaction on her face is shock.

I was surprised when I watched the episode for the first time at Jodha's reaction. After having just seen Jalal totally brutal in rage to see him come near her covered entirely in someone else's blood has to be a shock. Will wait for episode. There is no question Jodha was scared and maybe it was also seeing Jalal entirely covered in Adham's blood.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: chitterati


Rashmi, I guess it's a fad to be an "only Jalal" fan, if you love Jo or even Jo and Jalal equally, then you are a TRP audience who lacks intellect and is unaware of Akbar's greatness,however if you are an exclusively Jalal fan then you are an intelligent viewer you appreciates history.

Regarding Jodha's reaction, if she had embraced him, then she would have been Mahaan jodha - and we all know how annoying folks find her then, so I guess it's better this way




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Line in BOLD - it should be framed on some wall of forum. There has not been a better description of the biased threads.

Funny thing is back patting certificates are handed out to own about intelligence or lack of others when are not even READY TO SEE ANOTHER POV! Everything Jalal does has to be praised and Jodha criticized.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: MaddyO

<font size="2">What a brilliant gruesome episode.

Firstly
Rajat, Chetan and Ashwini were brilliant. I usually nowadays find
Ashwini's shouting very OTT but today she was just super.

I think
why they showed all Begums and haram women watching the gruesome end of
Adham is cos WE are the ones who are watching it like them. If they
had not shown the women's reactions it would have been like some
war/action stuff where all violence takes place. The starkness of
Jalal's punishment to Adham was more brutul cos women watched it when
they could barely do it. In the end GB averted her face.

No
matter how much we think Jalal was right in ordering death of Adham Khan
to watch it happen was very gruesome. Adham was thrown four times and
each time dragged up like some animal carcass.

At all times
there was not a single time Adham had the fear of death in his eyes, it
was pure hatred for Jalal. Seeing that Jalal's rage became higher and
higher.

I watched repeat only to see the reactions of ALL women.
ALL were in shock.
HB
and Jodha were holding each other rather Jodha was holding HB and she
NEVER tried to stop Jalal from killing Adham. Her reaction was about
the MANNER of his death.
HB also could not stand it.
SB was not there at first and when she came - she opened her mouth as if to speak and then she stopped
Ruk also was scared

It
is totally another thing to kill enemy and fight war and watch them
being killed. There is no emotions involved with the enemies and no
personal attachment. Here Adham was not an enemy just 2 mins before the
scene also. He was the bad egg of family, who even Jalal when ordering
his death called as his brother. Jalal addressed awam saying he killed
his dudh bhai brother. So to see the violence inside the sanctity of
their home, to see Jalal's life at risk and then to see so much violence
has to be shocking.

Jodha's reaction WAS NEVER ABOUT ADHAM it was always about Jalal.
She
got scared seeing Jalal in such a rage. I remember Jalal had told
Jodha once if she saw him in battle she will not recognize him cos he
becomes all crazed or animal like some such dialogues.

Jodha progressively got more scared.

Precap
- Jodha is sitting on bed shaking. Jalal walks in totally bloodied
with entire face covered in blood. Jodha KNOWS it is not Jalal's blood
but Adham's and she is shaking when she gets up from bed away from
approaching Jalal. The reaction on her face is shock.

I was
surprised when I watched the episode for the first time at Jodha's
reaction. After having just seen Jalal totally brutal in rage to see
him come near her covered entirely in someone else's blood has to be a
shock. Will wait for episode. There is no question Jodha was scared
and maybe it was also seeing Jalal entirely covered in Adham's blood.
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brilliant 👏

you always say and write so correct 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: Pals2411

Agreed Sindhu😛...Honestly I wont be surprised if tomorrow Jodha reacts totally shocked, in fear, is ill-equipped and unprepared to support Jallu emotionally (continuation of precap and Jallu goes all broken from her hojra)...because I would totally understand her and also Jallu's feelings and thoughts ...and then I will also understand why Jallu would feel alone and burn that throne... but then I think after recovering from her momentary fears she will go in search of Jallu and console him (HONESTLY I AM FULLY PREPARED FOR THIS SEQUENCE AND ALSO FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF UPROAR HERE) ...BECAUSE I DONT FORGET THE FACT THAT BOTH JALAL AND JODHA DESPITE BEING KING AND QUEEN ARE HUMANS FIRST...

PS: Hope what I am preparing myself for doesn't happen tomorrow😛



Pallu, I remember Jalal had asked Jodha once - after she recovered from drinking poison, if she does not fear anything. Well we have seen Jodha fears nobody outsider - what scared her was this brutal Jalal, she almost could not recognize him. ONLY Jalal matters to her and so her reactions.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65
Srsly jalal full body covered with blood weather its someone else but that sight is not pleasant ti see
lot of emotions run in
JA past week se realy giving some wow moment with good brilliant acting by all
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66
I think this was needed to show jodha that even though jalal is loving and kind he is also an emperor who kept his throne throught brute strength.

This is the other side of Jalal let us see if she can accept him with all his fautlts.
Her reaction in the precap was understandable anyone would be afraid after what they saw, it is how she handle this situation that will define this relationship.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

I am not getting carried away by the Precap. Of course Jalal needs support and am sure Jodha will be there for him.






Correctly said Sindhu .

I read a few negative posts criticizing Jodha's reaction to Jalal in the precap . I wonder why Jodha is being singled out . The other two begums and HB were also shocked at the horrific incident . Agreed that Jodha is a Rajvanshi warrior princess herself and should be accustomed to seeing bloodshed . However this scenario was not not a normal one . She would have been shocked to the core watching her husband mete out such a ghastly form of punishment . Jodha is a peace loving person . When she saw a blood drenched Jalal from head to toe , its quite natural that she moved away in fear . We will get to see her full reaction tomorrow and until then should not form an opinion about her reaction .

Jodha is not the one to run away from a stressful situation . She will become Jalal's source of emotional strength
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

I am not getting carried away by the Precap. Of course Jalal needs support and am sure Jodha will be there for him.






Correctly said Sindhu .

I read a few negative posts criticizing Jodha's reaction to Jalal in the precap . I wonder why Jodha is being singled out . The other two begums and HB were also shocked at the horrific incident . Agreed that Jodha is a Rajvanshi warrior princess herself and should be accustomed to seeing bloodshed . However this scenario was not not a normal one . She would have been shocked to the core watching her husband mete out such a ghastly form of punishment . Jodha is a peace loving person . When she saw a blood drenched Jalal from head to toe , its quite natural that she moved away in fear . We will get to see her full reaction tomorrow and until then should not form an opinion about her reaction from the precap.

Jodha is not the one to run away from a stressful situation . She will become Jalal's source of emotional strength .
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu






Correctly said Sindhu .

I read a few negative posts criticizing Jodha's reaction to Jalal in the precap . I wonder why Jodha is being singled out . The other two begums and HB were also shocked at the horrific incident . Agreed that Jodha is a Rajvanshi warrior princess herself and should be accustomed to seeing bloodshed . However this scenario was not not a normal one . She would have been shocked to the core watching her husband mete out such a ghastly form of punishment . Jodha is a peace loving person . When she saw a blood drenched Jalal from head to toe , its quite natural that she moved away in fear . We will get to see her full reaction tomorrow and until then should not form an opinion about her reaction from the precap.

Jodha is not the one to run away from a stressful situation . She will become Jalal's source of emotional strength .



nice Post...
@blue: good question...
@bold. totally agree...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitterati


Rashmi, I guess it's a fad to be an "only Jalal" fan, if you love Jo or even Jo and Jalal equally, then you are a TRP audience who lacks intellect and is unaware of Akbar's greatness,however if you are an exclusively Jalal fan then you are an intelligent viewer you appreciates history.

Regarding Jodha's reaction, if she had embraced him, then she would have been Mahaan jodha - and we all know how annoying folks find her then, so I guess it's better this way



People would have started measuring the distance between RT & PS was it 2inch or 4inch😆

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