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Shraddha

@lashy

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Posted: 11 years ago

#211

Originally posted by: adianasr

absolutely and lashy this time we wont see Jala do that since he wont be guilty - there is no guilt here - what is there is pain, at having to put all those who love him thru such a wringer - he will apologise but this time it will be not out of guilt - Warriors when they fight do not have guilt for having killed the enemy becoz to fight and to kill is their duty - and this is war that he is fighting and a war that he has to win - he has no other option - the option to loose, or to fight another day is non existent - so no, I do not expect guilt - in fact if you note all of Jalal's expressions - nowhere will you find guilt - there is stoic acceptance, there is frustration, there is pain - but there is no guilt - guilt is a product of shame and he has done nothing to be ashamed of - hence this apology would be for being harsh and hard on all his loved ones but not for having done anything wrong

I hope they show it like you've put it... 😊

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sun29

@sun29

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Posted: 11 years ago

#212

Originally posted by: adianasr

absolutely and lashy this time we wont see Jalal do that since he wont be guilty - there is no guilt here - what is there is pain, at having to put all those who love him thru such a wringer - he will apologise but this time it will be not out of guilt - Warriors when they fight do not have guilt for having killed the enemy becoz to fight and to kill is their duty - and this is war that he is fighting and a war that he has to win - he has no other option - the option to loose, or to fight another day is non existent - so no, I do not expect guilt - in fact if you note all of Jalal's expressions - nowhere will you find guilt - there is stoic acceptance, there is frustration, there is pain - but there is no guilt - guilt is a product of shame and he has done nothing to be ashamed of - hence this apology would be for being harsh and hard on all his loved ones but not for having done anything wrong

this is exactly the last scene yesterday..thank you for putting it down so beautifully..he is not guilty at all but he is pained and hurt ...there is nothing to be guilty about ...coz he waged a war against his enemies...and he is hurt that his family have to pay for it ...also with MA ka face coming to the fore ...he has even that to deal with 😕

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shreya roy

@munni_rajatfan

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#213

Originally posted by: karishma.s
Lashy, I never said I want jalal apologising to jodha and begging her. Though he will since he is already guilty. I just want him to know the extent of hurt jodha had to undergo, which after knowing about her suicide attempt he will realise and he will be able to see what he could have lost in this plan. His plan is not perfect, it has loopholes. You are right, jodha will not require a separate apology after knowing that he was acting for safety of the children and the sultanate, I think she will apologise for not trusting him. All I want is for them to have some moments alone without ruks looking at their intimacy or cvs winding it up before we can enjoy it after weeks of torture.

No plan is without loopholes. When sujamal came in agra nd dressed as KS tht also had loopholes, when HB told jodha to change her religion so tht she can buy sum time, tht plan also had loopholes nd im sure jalal realizes tht. He will definitely apologize for tht. But at the same he did this for better bcoz he very knows tht if sumhow jodha knew about atifa she definitely would have jumped into it. So it could have more dangerous for her. His plan is definitely not perfect but he had to choose. He very well knows the pain of jodha nd whts she is going through but at the same he didn't wanted any repetition of benz track. Look the Khyber issue could have happened even without a plan as well. So jalal very well realizes wht went wrong nd he had always been the 1st person to apologize.

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mishtidoi

@mishtidoi

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#214

And in plans like war...apart from oneself, the other person which we leave and put all our faith into is God...and it is in it that Jalal put his faith and with conviction played the game, his Allah and Kanha for Jodha, who would have not let her take any foolish step to completion...either in KZ form or any other, she wouldn't have done anything stupid.

What's not done is not happened...let's leave this, why this, why not that...No plan is full proof, especially when there's no time and have to act in now or never situation...each moment of day planning was being done, changed and executed as and when it was being faced...

and as Sun said collateral damage was bound to happen.

I am sooo missing their hand-holds😭😳

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adiana12

@adiana12

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#215

Originally posted by: lashy

I hope they show it like you've put it... 😊

lashy, Khushi and I understood this track at the start from Rajat's expressions - and we do know that Rajat has never let us down in his acting - even here I would say, keep faith - the actor(s) must have been briefed on the entire track including its aftermath, which helps them portray the correct expressions when the track is unfolding and that tells us what is to come - and if there is no guilt now there will be no guilt later - and as there is pain at seeing all of them go thru this for him and becoz of him - there will be apologies but for being so hard and harsh on all of them - and more than that he wont be allowed to apologise by any of his loved ones if I am correct - they will just take him into their arms and their heart for having the strength of mind and will to have walked such a path for all of them

Ofcourse with 😆 Ruqs breaking all the pots and pans in her hojra

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mishtidoi

@mishtidoi

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#216

Hey secret is out, MA is culprit...she is screaming on Atifa...Jalal ki zindagi par sirf humara haq hai, Jalal ko khatm nahi karna tha, kaha tha humne

Jalal and Atgah Saheb in soldier attire...spoiler one...listening and hiding behind

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Mihrimah Ahmed

@ShadeOfWhite

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#217

I loved the episode Divi and and it was most emotional ride for me too..I cried almost in all scenes.😭

Jodha-Ruqaiyya- Ruqaiyya poured her out to Jodha today...she shared why she hated Jodha so much, why she seek opportunities to insult her, why she was always behind her, why she couldnt see any goodness in her...today Ruqu was vulnerable and feared...she knows at this moment one person who will understand her pain is Jodha..and she is unable to take the favor which Jodha did by supporting her going against her husband...this has ripped her...she couldnt avoid but to acknowledge it and feeling thankful of her...it made me teary..the whole scene, the ambience, the dialogues...and the acting by PS and LT! awesome👏 I know tomorrow Ruqaiyya will again turn negative, but for yesterday I loved her.

Jodha-Hameeda- Jodha is numb..had it been a wife Jodha, she would have fought it, ranted it to Kanha, argued with Jalal, left Agra right then, but this Jodha is a mother...and for the sake of her kids she has emerged as stronger than ever...she has lost her love, her Shehenshah, but the unborns kids she is carrying compelled her to be strong..her tears dried...she came to visit HB so that she can get permission for leaving Agra...as soon as HB stops her, and she bursts into tears that moment I couldnt hold myself...I cried with her...😭😭 it was so emotional...PS nailed the scene! Jodha was more broken thinking Jalal wont love her anymore..how would she stay in Agra where she has no Jalal with her..? his love with her?

Jalal- every time he comes across Jodha, the pain in his eyes is wotrh watching! hats off to his patience...he is taking all of his relatives thrashings, lashings on himself, still didnt falter for once! that is what u call love for ur family! when he spotted Papita talking to 3 Kabul men, he immediately interpreted the situation and understood these men r Papita's partners, later when Papita asked him to invite them in her wedding, Jalal's doubts got confirmed...Jalal was hardly listening to her, he was lost in calculating the whole thing.

Jalal purposely refrained Jodha from attending the nikah..he wants to keep her safe given the attack will take place..when Jodha said she will leave for Amer, the look of Jalal was terrible! poor boy!😭

the last scene said it all...first time we got his self-talk and saw hidden pain..he couldnt bear it anymore...he marched onto Jodha's hojra only to find her stoned whose tears dried long back..Ishq Hai Woh Ehsaas in BG made me more emotional...😭

precap: TE is maroing entry...🥳

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sun29

@sun29

Trailblazer

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#218

Originally posted by: mishtidoi
Hey secret is out, MA is culprit...she is screaming on Atifa...Jalal ki zindagi par sirf humara haq hai, Jalal ko khatm nahi karna tha, kaha tha humne
Jalal and Atgah Saheb in soldier attire...spoiler one...listening and hiding behind

nahiii😆

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mishtidoi

@mishtidoi

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#219

I still can't believe, MA could be this foolish, to use a bootifool woman to charm Jalal

I think what did in was her denial of not seeing and believing in evolution of Jalal, also absolutely turning blind eye to Love between Jodha-Jalal...how could she, she herself doesn't know, what love is.😕

Oh!!! what an absolutely foolish base for a brilliant plan she built...of course she put her everything, in this plan, she knew this was her last chance and what she got???

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sun29

@sun29

Trailblazer

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#220

Originally posted by: mishtidoi
I still can't believe, MA could be this foolish, to use a bootifool woman to charm Jalal
I think what did in was her denial of not seeing and believing in evolution of Jalal, also absolutely turning blind eye to Love between Jodha-Jalal...how could she, she herself doesn't know, what love is.😕
Oh!!! what an absolutely foolish base for a brilliant plan she built...of course she put her everything, in this plan, she knew this was her last chance and what she got???

hence i was and still unable to believe this was her plan??? and all throughout she did not even suspect that jalal might have got a whiff..she did raise him right???

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