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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Guys I just hope that after this atifa is history, the focus on jodha and jalal. The cvs are so obsessed with negativity that they can never ever give us some nice emotional scenes of jolal. I think jodha might forgive him knowing that he was acting to save not only her but the sultanate, I want her to tell him of her suicide attempt. Only then will he realise to what extent he drove jodha. I want jodha to tell him that it is because of khyber I'm alive today with your kids, otherwise I would have been dead.i really want to see jalal's reaction to that. I also want jodh to faint after this entire drama unfolds and I want the hakim to say that she has got a huge sadma and this has affected her health and the health of her kids. After giving us such crude treatment of jodha by jalal in her pregnancy, if they donot show jolal moments, jalal taking care of jodha personally, and explanation for those rude words and emotional scenes and instead show ruks seeing their intimacy after the misunderstanding or one hug and everything forgotten, I swear, I plan to bang the cvs head!😔


Frankly speaking, as far as I'm concerned - I would like tender moments between both, but not at the cost of one weeping/one feeling guilty/one apologizing at all. If Jodha comes to know WHY Jalal did all that does she still really need an apology? He did all that to save her life. Would she rather he didn't do this drama and put her safety at greater jeopardy? Yes, he didn't expect her to try to suicide - actually, NONE of us did. He must have expected her to be in harem while he could keep an eye on her. The night venture did put his plan off. However, he did get her back (possibly putting his plans on hold and risking the life of the rest of his family too - not knowing what's cooking between MA/AK at that point).
And the rest of it is now possibly falling in place.

Personally, I would think Jalal would be equally drained as Jodha by the end of this ordeal 😊

Emotionally - While she is dying as a result of his words, I can't see how his own words wouldn't be eating him up. That is what conscience does to a good guy - food/sleep'/peace wise I can't see how he'd be living his days happily while she's suffering!

Physically - While she's been running around and carrying two little ones inside her, he's been running around keeping an eye on everything making all plans singlehandedly - added by the worry of the fact that any moment anything can backfire and take away his life/life of his loved ones!

Mentally - Need I even explain here?

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Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago


lashy ..they both will be emotionally wounded ...it is natural..jalal ka last line yesterday things have spun out of control ..says it alll...the damage will be there...and for them to get back to normal they have to heal and for them to heal they have to be able to talk and listen...jodha is going to be distraught given she tried to kill herself and the babies...she will not be angry on jalal but herself...and inspite of knowing he did it for the bigger good ..he will not be able to forgive himself for what everyone had to go through especially jodha...time will heal them but right now i want that emotional outpour ,the pain and hurt..and i will kill the cvs if like ben track climax jodha and jalal go doe eyed discussing Papita ka non existing husn (credit:ElašŸ˜†)

this is not a blame game ...it is about the choices made and the result of the same ...as an Emperor and his family...

they can understand what one did or did not do later...right now they need to break down and be real and crumble in each others arm ...yes i am a sadist for emotional atyacharšŸ˜†šŸ˜†

and i want my ruqaiyya to start breaking things..the show is incomplete without it...all the characters need to get back to what they do best...thus returns normality šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy


Frankly speaking, as far as I'm concerned - I would like tender moments between both, but not at the cost of one weeping/one feeling guilty/one apologizing at all. If Jodha comes to know WHY Jalal did all that does she still really need an apology? He did all that to save her life. Would she rather he didn't do this drama and put her safety at greater jeopardy? Yes, he didn't expect her to try to suicide - actually, NONE of us did. He must have expected her to be in harem while he could keep an eye on her. The night venture did put his plan off. However, he did get her back (possibly putting his plans on hold and risking the life of the rest of his family too - not knowing what's cooking between MA/AK at that point).
And the rest of it is now possibly falling in place.

Personally, I would think Jalal would be equally drained as Jodha by the end of this ordeal 😊

Emotionally - While she is dying as a result of his words, I can't see how his own words wouldn't be eating him up. That is what conscience does to a good guy - food/sleep'/peace wise I can't see how he'd be living his days happily while she's suffering!

Physically - While she's been running around and carrying two little ones after her, he's been running around keeping an eye on everything making all plans singlehandedly - added by the worry of the fact that any moment anything can backfire and take away his life/life of his loved ones!

Mentally - Need I even explain here?

😳





Ahhh...lashy, but still Jodha was the more vulnerable one and more hurt and shd not accept any reasoning - after all she is the 'Heroine' you see and a woman - how dare anyone put a woman and that too her, thru all this, even if it for her own safety and for the safety of all and for the very same praja and kartavya that even she keeps spouting all the time šŸ˜‰šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago
Lashy, I never said I want jalal apologising to jodha and begging her. Though he will since he is already guilty. I just want him to know the extent of hurt jodha had to undergo, which after knowing about her suicide attempt he will realise and he will be able to see what he could have lost in this plan. His plan is not perfect, it has loopholes. You are right, jodha will not require a separate apology after knowing that he was acting for safety of the children and the sultanate, I think she will apologise for not trusting him. All I want is for them to have some moments alone without ruks looking at their intimacy or cvs winding it up before we can enjoy it after weeks of torture.
Edited by karishma.s - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">I don't blame Jodha for not seeing through Jalal's plan😊</font>


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">At the same time, I am proud of Jalal for making a plan (however dangerous or not) for putting himself in the line of fire and taking the bull by it's horns in order to save his family..</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">😃</font>



Yup ur right. How will jodha know about his plans? Its like the sujamal track when jalal was not supposed to know the truth. Same goes for jodha here. But at the same time I feel jalal had no choice bcoz he felt tht if he tells jodha the truth she will definitely jump into it. I mean if she can take so much of risk for Khyber she can do anything for jalal.
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Posted: 11 years ago

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lashy ..they both will be emotionally wounded ...it is natural..jalal ka last line yesterday things have spun out of control ..says it alll...the damage will be there...and for them to get back to normal they have to heal and for them to heal they have to be able to talk and listen...jodha is going to be distraught given she tried to kill herself and the babies...she will not be angry on jalal but herself...and inspite of knowing he did it for the bigger good ..he will not be able to forgive himself for what everyone had to go through especially jodha...time will heal them but right now i want that emotional outpour ,the pain and hurt..and i will kill the cvs if like ben track climax jodha and jalal go doe eyed discussing Papita ka non existing husn (credit:ElašŸ˜†)

this is not a blame game ...it is about the choices made and the result of the same ...as an Emperor and his family...

they can understand what one did or did not do later...right now they need to break down and be real and crumble in each others arm ...yes i am a sadist for emotional atyacharšŸ˜†šŸ˜†

and i want my ruqaiyya to start breaking things..the show is incomplete without it...all the characters need to get back to what they do best...thus returns normality šŸ˜†

Oh yes Sun.. I do want an episode devoted to just that - otherwise, it'd look TOO abrupt!
There has to be a pouring out of feelings and a few tears here and there
But I don't want just ONE of them blaming themselves for it all...
I would also like the sadness of this not extended for more than an episode or two.. 😃

@ Adi - that's how the world works... men are the woo-ers and women like to be woo-ed (even if they know they had an equal contribution in an argument or a MU).. that hasn't changed in thousands of years, its not going to change now... šŸ˜†
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Lashy, I never said I want jalal apologising to jodha and begging her. Though he will since he is already guilty. I just want him to know the extent of hurt jodha had to undergo, which after knowing about her suicide attempt he will realise and he will be able to see what he could have lost in this plan. His plan is not perfect, it has loopholes. You are right, jodha will not require a separate apology after knowing that he was acting for safety of the children and the sultanate, I think she will apologise for not trusting him. All I want is for them to have some moments alone without ruks looking at their intimacy or cvs winding it up before we can enjoy it after weeks of torture.


I replied based on what we've been seeing in the past 4-5 tracks in this serial
Would really like to view something different now...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

I don't blame Jodha for not seeing through Jalal's plan 😊


At the same time, I am proud of Jalal for making a plan (however dangerous or not) for putting himself in the line of fire and taking the bull by it's horns in order to save his family..
😃


neither is to be blamed ..i fail to understand why we need to take sides on whose pain is greater or less..how can we measure that

jalal took a conscious decision to keep no one in the loop especially jodha and he was absolutely right given jodha ka highly impulsive natue and knowing jalal is in danger ..there is no way he could keep her away..so will he keep an eye on her or the enemies..the khyber issue scared him and frustrated him coa there are bigger enemies looming around

jodha will be that collateral damage ...there is no other way to it...so her reactions too will be right in her place...a lot has happened in the span of few days some her own doing ,some which she is still is unable to understand ...hence whatever her reaction will be it all depends on her frame of mind which right now is too numb...

so when the war is over ..you have to take into account the loss and damage too and try and bring everything back to order and sense...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy

Oh yes Sun.. I do want an episode devoted to just that - otherwise, it'd look TOO abrupt!
There has to be a pouring out of feelings and a few tears here and there
But I don't want just ONE of them blaming themselves for it all...
I would also like the sadness of this not extended for more than an episode or two.. 😃

@ Adi - that's how the world works... men are the woo-ers and women like to be woo-ed (even if they know they had an equal contribution in an argument or a MU).. that hasn't changed in thousands of years, its not going to change now... šŸ˜†


of course even i do not want that...now that is a dreadful scenariošŸ˜•..i want both to be there in that scene ...and an episode or more devoted to it and bucket ful of tears not few tears..šŸ˜†
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: lashy


I replied based on what we've been seeing in the past 4-5 tracks in this serial
Would really like to view something different now...



absolutely and lashy this time we wont see Jalal do that since he wont be guilty - there is no guilt here - what is there is pain, at having to put all those who love him thru such a wringer - he will apologise but this time it will be not out of guilt - Warriors when they fight do not have guilt for having killed the enemy becoz to fight and to kill is their duty - and this is war that he is fighting and a war that he has to win - he has no other option - the option to loose, or to fight another day is non existent - so no, I do not expect guilt - in fact if you note all of Jalal's expressions - nowhere will you find guilt - there is stoic acceptance, there is frustration, there is pain - but there is no guilt - guilt is a product of shame and he has done nothing to be ashamed of - hence this apology would be for being harsh and hard on all his loved ones but not for having done anything wrong
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