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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: MaddyO

I just cannot stop thinking about Jodha and Jalal so all this rambling thoughts.

What have CVs done to Jalal?!

I cannot get the scene of Jalal bending down to shout at his unborn babies out of my mind - that he could shout at his babies saying let them know what kind of mother they have got? It was absolutely the most pathetic scene, this action of Jalal's by CVs just sank him so low. Jodha absolutely never deserved this.

How could CVs give this dialogue to Jalal? How can this act of Jalal's be justified in any way? I just cannot believe Jalal is capable of this.

This Jalal for whom family means everything - who has been backstabbed so many times by those he loves so dearly, who craves the family that do not always stand by him. How many times has he forgiven them all just cos they are his family - starting from the one he kept on pedestal MA, Ruk faking pregnancy, SD and BB, AM, Nigar was just forgiven her horrific act of bringing AM's men to rape his wives and haram!

THIS Jalal who has craved for a waris for so long - he cried on Jodha's shoulder when he realized Ruk was not really pregnant - he was not going to be a father, who even when he knew Ruk was not pregnant so there was no apshagun kept thinking that it all happened because he pushed the empty cradle!

When Jalal is getting what he most wished for his entire life, he shouts at his babies? This scene has left me so disgusted. Even when Jalal was shown weak or gullible was he never ever shown so crass and horrific. Why would CVs do this? Why not they made Jalal stop at love declaration for Atifa? Wasn't that enough to cause agony to Jodha?!

Jodha did absolutely most foolish act. No matter she did it in such a weak moment where she lost her will to live also. What use of a plan, if Jalal is pretending - if that had made Jodha almost give up her life and made him lose Jodha and his waris?

Jalal seemed to regret his raging at Jodha when he tried to talk with Jodha, asked about her in DEK, but now that seems to have just vanished after Jodha's kidnapping. By her foolish act, he is so much in rage that he seems to have forgotten the harsh brutal words he said to her. So does that mean he now does not feel bad about his words?

I do not think Jalal is in love with Atifa - whether he thinks he is or he is pretending - still how can he do this to his babies? How can he be shown so callous as to not care about Jodha and his babies in this state?

Why do CVs think that if Jalal has to be shown fallen for Atifa he should be shown not caring about his babies? What is the connection between feeling love/attraction for a woman and love for his babies? Should not his babies be his first priority? Who would not understand that even if he fell for Atifa he can still be shown caring about his babies?


I wish Jodha had got a chance to tell him about her mental state when she went to the well and almost ended her life. That might make Jalal realize what a dangerous game he is playing. If he is doing this to protect Jodha and his babies then he almost already lost them!

Jodha did something so foolish that spiraled so out of control she herself came to losing her life and putting her babies at risk. Jalal is absolutely right in being upset with her.

However, Jodha has been absolutely true to form, did Jalal not acknowledge this to Maan Singh? Jalal trusts Jodha would not be standing alive in front of him - if Khyber had behaved indecently. Jalal knows Jodha - so why does he not know how much agony he is causing her by his words?

Jalal is questioning Jodha's trust on him, but has he trusted her if this is his plan? How much agony it caused him when she did not trust him about Sujamal - atleast Jodha was bound by vachan then, what is stopping Jalal now? Is his plan worth the risk if he ends up losing Jodha and babies?

This is no MU cos MU just needs for facts to come to light for things to get back to normal.

Jalal had promised to take care of Jodha when she got pregnant, so far we have not seen him doing any such thing. He asked Ruk to take care of Jodha? Really! Does Jalal not know Ruk at all?

I honestly don't care about Atifa, cos I do not think she is for Jalal - he might think he love her if there is no plan - but no Jalal cannot love Atifa. All I care about Jodha and Jalal getting together when she needs him, his love most.

Jodha seems to have got used to Jalal's rages! She felt things are sorted between them when he came for her. Jodha knows she did foolish thing and he is absolutely furious with her - but by declaring marriage with Atifa is he not going to make her feel more dejected and abandoned? So Jodha knows every word he raged at her he meant it?!

I want to see Jodha just detach herself from Jalal and concentrate on her babies. If Jalal does not trust her enough to share his plan with her, then he should not be talking about HER lack of trust! Jodha was against Jalal from the start about treatment and killing order of Khyber so it is not as if he did not know where she stood in this. Does Jodha know where he stands???

I want to see Jodha tell Jalal since he does not think she deserves his love, since he thinks loving her was a mistake, since he questions what she ever did for him (really??????????????) then you are free from my side to find love and what all you want from Atifa. Jodha should not show her hurt or her pain to him cos it does not seem to again matter to him now! Let him play his games while Jodha should make him free.

Why CVs have you made things so bad between Jalal and Jodha when they should be on best terms now when he could not keep his eyes off her in Jashna and be so happy about his babies. Why CVs have you turned everything so ugly?

I wonder how CVs can ever show things get back to normal. Jodha's foolish act was atleast true to her which even Jalal knows, but how can Jalal act like this for his babies? I just hope this track closing makes his actions seem somewhat justified - though I cannot EVER think shouting at babies can be justified for any reason.



Maddi, well +truthfully said. Why Cv showing jalal like this. I can't understand scene, when Jalal said to jodha, His child should know, what know, His father reacats+behaves Like this.
But, One thing Couple not understand eachother, Slightly winds comes, & try to destroy,
their married Life, because, somethings, which needed they not learning.

Acceptions are more, but supply is less, by Jalal, somethings Good i accept, Friday episode, indicate that, Trust Factor increased, But More things needed. you can't Live whole life with
Trust, others things supply should be needed.

What more accepts jalal from jodha now. i not liked, when he said, i did mistake, why i choosed you,some thing like this, you misusing my freedom. Friday episode he said, to jodha, you broke MUGHAL RULES;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Others also breaking rules, so why jalal not says to them;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but its not AKDHA FALUT, Its script writers falut, which giving them Cheap,Dialouges, which are not connecting story, or not connecting episodes.
They own not knows, what they are showing, What demands.

Where are Script writers, who write starting Good scenes, +good dialouges.So lot of Hard work needed, to Save this serial,

Is Leap is slouation, No, first less audience wants Leap. But if you not write good script, or not present, Good way, things, so Serial will face up-downs.

How many people Love this serial, They do so much calls, +send E- MAILS,But why Cv not alerting.



Audience wants serial Life +growth will be better, Directors not listening.


So maybee, this Last torture, we faced, so Hope for the Best.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

awesome Post Maddy. will write in detail later. Lost all my patience and energy replying to a certain thread.



Thanks Sindhu. Will wait for your post cos it is sure to be positive.
I know what you mean, don't waste your time, energy and positivity 😉😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: tamy267

nice post Maddy...but point is, that is how CVs r!! they go over board in the name of creating suspense and convincing audience..I am sure CVs r aware of Jalal bashing in most group of audience..let alone forums, normal audience is also cursing him...and to convince he is actually in love with Atifa, they r showing more disgraceful, pathetic scenes so that when we get tedha Jalal at the end, people can eat their curses and go awe of Jalal all over again.

all I want CVs do show every justification of his actions at the end...like u said he shouted at Jodha bending so that his unborns listen...he hurled so many harsh,demeaning words to her, even having tedha plan, this all r beyond understanding.

I am just waiting for everything to reveal so that we as audience/fans r satisfied and feel content that ok this track has good ending.😊





Thanks Tamy.
You said it exactly, CVs go way overboard actually. I mean Jalal saying love Atifa was enough to cause agony to Jodha. What was the need to show him shout on his unborn babies? What was the need for such abusive words to Jodha?

No matter what they reveal about the track, they can at most tell us why he pretended to love Atifa but what about what he shouted at the babies? CVs should not have done this.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Super duper nice post maddy.
I just distract to see this new Jalal...was this guy once yearning for getting waris!? If he was same guy then before yelling on Jodha would he ever think his loudly shouting on jodha can b made bad impact on babies infact it can b the reason of hindrance in growing babies. More than it after entering atifa in his life for a while he didn't ever go to hakim for asking how r his babies? Atleast in private he could have consulted with hakim.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: ann2012

This Atifa track is just too OTT. jalal has done unimaginable stuff in the name of a teda plan. Of course he has to show his attraction for another lady as a part of the plan, but it does really have to involve renouncing his love for jodha so much? I am distressed. At the end of this track cvs will resolve everything by showing jalal was just acting but his harsh words will linger. I hope jodha tells him she almost committed suicide due his behaviour. Would jalal still pat himself on the back for being such convincing actor and pulling the plan off??




Exactly! Just pretending to love Atifa was enough to cause hurt to Jodha. What CVs made Jalal say was verbal abuse. CVs deserve this special treatment only for Jodha. 😡
Contrast the way he behaved in Ruk's fake pregnancy and even when her lies came out. 😡😡😡

I so want Jodha to tell that she almost committed suicide due to his words. If Jodha had committed suicide then Jalal alone was to blame.

Jalal's harsh words will linger so much it has caused too much damage.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Maddy wonderful post... I hv same questions from starting of this track n JJ fights... Cvs hv killed jalal character n it's impossible for us to get convinced of his plan

Thanks Bhavana. In this track both Jalal and Jodha characters are butchered.

Maddy we saw how much jalal craved for waaris... By watching that scene wer he scolds Jo n says to kids abt wat kind of mother they got I felt that was not jalal n sme other humshakal... How much ever he is acting or plan jalal wil never say such dialgues to Jo n kids... That's y I stil think he is under spell ...

I don't know about spell, if he was then he would behave under it all the time. Why is he behaving properly with everybody else?

Atgah words r becoming true that person n relationship changes... Same jalal said to Jo in ruk fp track that he wil take care of her in pregnancy n now wat is he dng? Either he comes to blast her or ignores her wen Jo comes to meet him...

Jalal has been miserable failure as husband to pregnant wife and as father to his unborn babies. If he has a plan also what use is it if it causes his wife to almost give up her life. Khyber saved her otherwise Jalal would have lost Jodha.

In yday scene I expected JJ hug ( how fool I'm aftr knowing abt jalal stil expected) and he dint even touch her once also yday aftr khyber death to show his care or concern... He is seeing Jo aftr two days... Wil any one behave lik jalal?? There is no relief on his face aftr seeing her... See how he hugged n felt relieved aftr Jo first kidnap.. I felt as if he came to search for her bcz ppl wil gossip abt her n it wil ruin his image... He said same to HB n sb that ppl wil think that he can't protect them as he can't protect his own wife... He dint even think how is Jo n kids life...

This entire track has been torture for Jodha, as most tracks are! Jalal reserves his worst treatment for Jodha always. Yes he made us wonder if he is doing this for his waris?!
He is angry with Jodha but he is also responsible for driving her to this state. If their relations were better Jodha would have gone to him first.


I dnt want to even remember wat kind of nonsense he spoke to Jo... He thinks he is in love with atifa... Once their sr is done he wil get same ehsaas feeling on sme other new girl...

😡😡😡

It's his worst plan I wil say... If it is his plan then it is to protect Jo n kids... But he himself pushed jo to death... Then wat plan is this?? His protection to harem is very well seen as khyber sharifudin atifa husband can easily enter harem... In either ways his plan is flop...the way atifa husband came as ks he can also enter Jo room n kill her or kill babies by giving poison... Wat is plan then??where is his security to Jo??

Agree with every word. He gave protection to Atifa but NOT to Jodha?!

y is jalal thinking that if he pretends to fall in love with atifa n make world to believe that JJ r no more in love then atifa n her hubby won't kill kids?? They wil bcz kids r nxt heir to throne... It doesn't matter to them if he loves Jo or not..

Exactly! Jodha will still be pregnant. What does it matter to the person who does not want waris to be born if he loves Jodha or not?!

If jalal trust so much y can't he say abt his plan n reduce her agony?? It's bcz he dnt trust her.. I laughed at jalal wen he asked ruk abt Jo... I mean seriously jalal asked ruk to take care of Jo? Wat happend to him?? Ruk is the last one to take care of Jo...

If he really falls for atifa or not I want Jo to say him that he is free to do anythng n it doesn't bother her... N she shud b strong n stubborn n think abt kids...



Last line in bold agree totally. I so want Jodha to shut him out, let him go have his Atifas and whoever.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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jodha cannot act well at all
she cannot do it even if her life depended on it
so if jalal wants to put up an act in front of the spy
it may be MA ruq atifa any one of them
then jodha will definitely fail
jalal will fail in his attempt to nab the culprits
so he has to act for the sake of that spy
also jodha should learn that everything cannot be done her way
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: hely

agree with u👍🏼
superb post



Thanks Hely 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



I think we are going to see a Jodha who is going to trust wih Jalals decision. May be she will think that Jalal is going to marry Atifa to save her from a troubled marriage..



Sindhu the problem is more about his confessing to love Atifa, not about what he does now.
Jalal told Jodha he loves Atifa, so how can Jodha buy that he is going to marry Atifa cos he wants to save her? Jalal is a Shehanshah and he has so many in his haram who are not his wives but he still gives them protection. Why say love her and then marry?

Trust is different thing when he tells her he loves her. The problem is he told Jodha he has right to marry anybody he wishes. Then he announces marriage, how can Jodha not feel he loves Atifa?

If Jalal had just told Jodha he loves Atifa and not said all the harsh words Jodha might still have wondered. However Jalal blamed Jodha and abused her verbally not even caring about his children. How can Jodha not believe his words after seeing how he is treating HER children when she has seen how he treated Ruk and her fake baby?

Jalal expects trust from Jodha but he is not trusting her himself.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Sindhu the problem is more about his confessing to love Atifa, not about what he does now.
Jalal told Jodha he loves Atifa, so how can Jodha buy that he is going to marry Atifa cos he wants to save her? Jalal is a Shehanshah and he has so many in his haram who are not his wives but he still gives them protection. Why say love her and then marry?

Trust is different thing when he tells her he loves her. The problem is he told Jodha he has right to marry anybody he wishes. Then he announces marriage, how can Jodha not feel he loves Atifa?

If Jalal had just told Jodha he loves Atifa and not said all the harsh words Jodha might still have wondered. However Jalal blamed Jodha and abused her verbally not even caring about his children. How can Jodha not believe his words after seeing how he is treating HER children when she has seen how he treated Ruk and her fake baby?

Jalal expects trust from Jodha but he is not trusting her himself.



agree Maddy. I just hope both JJ learn to grow from this track. I would love to see them emerge stronger.

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