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Posted: 11 years ago
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I just cannot stop thinking about Jodha and Jalal so all this rambling thoughts.

What have CVs done to Jalal?!

I cannot get the scene of Jalal bending down to shout at his unborn babies out of my mind - that he could shout at his babies saying let them know what kind of mother they have got? It was absolutely the most pathetic scene, this action of Jalal's by CVs just sank him so low. Jodha absolutely never deserved this.

How could CVs give this dialogue to Jalal? How can this act of Jalal's be justified in any way? I just cannot believe Jalal is capable of this.

This Jalal for whom family means everything - who has been backstabbed so many times by those he loves so dearly, who craves the family that do not always stand by him. How many times has he forgiven them all just cos they are his family - starting from the one he kept on pedestal MA, Ruk faking pregnancy, SD and BB, AM, Nigar was just forgiven her horrific act of bringing AM's men to rape his wives and haram!

THIS Jalal who has craved for a waris for so long - he cried on Jodha's shoulder when he realized Ruk was not really pregnant - he was not going to be a father, who even when he knew Ruk was not pregnant so there was no apshagun kept thinking that it all happened because he pushed the empty cradle!

When Jalal is getting what he most wished for his entire life, he shouts at his babies? This scene has left me so disgusted. Even when Jalal was shown weak or gullible was he never ever shown so crass and horrific. Why would CVs do this? Why not they made Jalal stop at love declaration for Atifa? Wasn't that enough to cause agony to Jodha?!

Jodha did absolutely most foolish act. No matter she did it in such a weak moment where she lost her will to live also. What use of a plan, if Jalal is pretending - if that had made Jodha almost give up her life and made him lose Jodha and his waris?

Jalal seemed to regret his raging at Jodha when he tried to talk with Jodha, asked about her in DEK, but now that seems to have just vanished after Jodha's kidnapping. By her foolish act, he is so much in rage that he seems to have forgotten the harsh brutal words he said to her. So does that mean he now does not feel bad about his words?

I do not think Jalal is in love with Atifa - whether he thinks he is or he is pretending - still how can he do this to his babies? How can he be shown so callous as to not care about Jodha and his babies in this state?

Why do CVs think that if Jalal has to be shown fallen for Atifa he should be shown not caring about his babies? What is the connection between feeling love/attraction for a woman and love for his babies? Should not his babies be his first priority? Who would not understand that even if he fell for Atifa he can still be shown caring about his babies?


I wish Jodha had got a chance to tell him about her mental state when she went to the well and almost ended her life. That might make Jalal realize what a dangerous game he is playing. If he is doing this to protect Jodha and his babies then he almost already lost them!

Jodha did something so foolish that spiraled so out of control she herself came to losing her life and putting her babies at risk. Jalal is absolutely right in being upset with her.

However, Jodha has been absolutely true to form, did Jalal not acknowledge this to Maan Singh? Jalal trusts Jodha would not be standing alive in front of him - if Khyber had behaved indecently. Jalal knows Jodha - so why does he not know how much agony he is causing her by his words?

Jalal is questioning Jodha's trust on him, but has he trusted her if this is his plan? How much agony it caused him when she did not trust him about Sujamal - atleast Jodha was bound by vachan then, what is stopping Jalal now? Is his plan worth the risk if he ends up losing Jodha and babies?

This is no MU cos MU just needs for facts to come to light for things to get back to normal.

Jalal had promised to take care of Jodha when she got pregnant, so far we have not seen him doing any such thing. He asked Ruk to take care of Jodha? Really! Does Jalal not know Ruk at all?

I honestly don't care about Atifa, cos I do not think she is for Jalal - he might think he love her if there is no plan - but no Jalal cannot love Atifa. All I care about Jodha and Jalal getting together when she needs him, his love most.

Jodha seems to have got used to Jalal's rages! She felt things are sorted between them when he came for her. Jodha knows she did foolish thing and he is absolutely furious with her - but by declaring marriage with Atifa is he not going to make her feel more dejected and abandoned? So Jodha knows every word he raged at her he meant it?!

I want to see Jodha just detach herself from Jalal and concentrate on her babies. If Jalal does not trust her enough to share his plan with her, then he should not be talking about HER lack of trust! Jodha was against Jalal from the start about treatment and killing order of Khyber so it is not as if he did not know where she stood in this. Does Jodha know where he stands???

I want to see Jodha tell Jalal since he does not think she deserves his love, since he thinks loving her was a mistake, since he questions what she ever did for him (really??????????????) then you are free from my side to find love and what all you want from Atifa. Jodha should not show her hurt or her pain to him cos it does not seem to again matter to him now! Let him play his games while Jodha should make him free.

Why CVs have you made things so bad between Jalal and Jodha when they should be on best terms now when he could not keep his eyes off her in Jashna and be so happy about his babies. Why CVs have you turned everything so ugly?

I wonder how CVs can ever show things get back to normal. Jodha's foolish act was atleast true to her which even Jalal knows, but how can Jalal act like this for his babies? I just hope this track closing makes his actions seem somewhat justified - though I cannot EVER think shouting at babies can be justified for any reason.

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myviewprem thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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OMG when did jalal shout at his babies
poor souls caught bet mom and dad fighting
I have not seen many episodes since july so must have missed
I think jodha must sit at home till her babies are born and not bother abt Khyber, ruqu etc
and jalal no matter how angry control for his babies sake
I had read that if babies are shouted at their m,om has emotional issue they are born weak
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very valid points Maddy...will post a reply later this afternoon. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

OMG when did jalal shout at his babies

poor souls caught bet mom and dad fighting
I have not seen many episodes since july so must have missed
I think jodha must sit at home till her babies are born and not bother abt Khyber, ruqu etc
and jalal no matter how angry control for his babies sake
I had read that if babies are shouted at their m,om has emotional issue they are born weak


Do you mind explaining the last line? I didn't get it( in JJ's context) ..Help me here please...
The babies are born weak if their mom has emotional issues ? OR
The babies are born weak if they( or their mother) are subjected to verbal abuse?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cleo12345


Do you mind explaining the last line? I didn't get it( in JJ's context) ..Help me here please...
The babies are born weak if their mom has emotional issues ? OR
The babies are born weak if they( or their mother) are subjected to verbal abuse?

Yep a research by Americal psychomatic society published a research where women who are mentally disturbed, stressed during pregnmancy have higher chance of their babies dying in pregnancy or just after or born deformed.
When jalla shouts or has affair with hatifa it emotionally and psychology impacts jodha mother of babies. A baby understands what is spoken outside within 4-5 months and hence everyone should be careful what they speak around a pregnant women. And definetly no shouting or loud noise because foetus ears are soft and may damage by loud noise outside. Too much noise also interfers with sleep.
So abhimanyu learning how to get into chakravyuh is partially correct as all babies hear and start learning from womb. That is why a girl when pregnant goes to mother house because own family takes better care than husband and his family. And that is why they say mother should read religious and good books during pregnancy. All old grand ma's tales are usually correct although only now the research is proving true.
That is why I am shocked Akbar shouted at babies. Babies born so will be scared, fearful, weak, deformed or will die.
Please check Americal psychomatic society journals to know more
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Posted: 11 years ago
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if we get to see Another convo of jalal n jodha after his marriage announcement Where jalal again rant his"atifa se mohabbat ..blah..blah..yadleio.." dailouges i want see a firm jodha who wont believe on his words this time n tell him how is her mann is not ready to accept this (Something like the promo dailouges "apke pyar pr sirf hamara haq h " Kind off 😆 ) . we see wat jalal have learnt from sujamal track now i personally want to see jodha learning from khaiber fiasco. i mean there has to be a positive point of that senseless track !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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awesome Post Maddy. will write in detail later. Lost all my patience and energy replying to a certain thread.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post Maddy...but point is, that is how CVs r!! they go over board in the name of creating suspense and convincing audience..I am sure CVs r aware of Jalal bashing in most group of audience..let alone forums, normal audience is also cursing him...and to convince he is actually in love with Atifa, they r showing more disgraceful, pathetic scenes so that when we get tedha Jalal at the end, people can eat their curses and go awe of Jalal all over again.
all I want CVs do show every justification of his actions at the end...like u said he shouted at Jodha bending so that his unborns listen...he hurled so many harsh,demeaning words to her, even having tedha plan, this all r beyond understanding.

I am just waiting for everything to reveal so that we as audience/fans r satisfied and feel content that ok this track has good ending.😊



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

awesome Post Maddy. will write in detail later. Lost all my patience and energy replying to a certain thread.



y r u wasting u energy there ? 😆 Let them happy in their assumption world na Because in the end nothing will change .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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This Atifa track is just too OTT. jalal has done unimaginable stuff in the name of a teda plan. Of course he has to show his attraction for another lady as a part of the plan, but it does really have to involve renouncing his love for jodha so much? I am distressed. At the end of this track cvs will resolve everything by showing jalal was just acting but his harsh words will linger. I hope jodha tells him she almost committed suicide due his behaviour. Would jalal still pat himself on the back for being such convincing actor and pulling the plan off??

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