I hope Jalal is faking it ... or I am ready to kill him! - Page 4

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Good post as usual Mansi . After watching today's episode I am convinced that Ruk is hand in glove with Atifa . I also posted my thoughts about Rukaiyya this morning . She and Atifa definitely have an old connection . Jalal has also realized that Atifa is upto no good . Why he has to fall over her to get to the truth , is beyond my understanding . If Jodha does decide to leave him , it serves him right . However I am hoping that nothing of that sort happens .

The important thing for me is not to just know about Ruq's hand in Atifa's appearance but to see Ruq caiught and punished. If that doesn't happen, its a non-starter for me!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: thethinker

Nice take mansi and kudos to you for having the courage to sit through such obscene episodes.

The show is made for an Indian audience and i dont think we are (yet) that progressive to believe in the 'you can fall in and out of love in a jiffy' theory. It will not go down well with most sections and age groups watching this soap. So, people it is false that jalal means anything that he utters to atifa. There could be two plausible scenarios

1. He is under the spell and that is making him do things.
2 He is playing along with atifa and others.

One is again not an option now because they have shown a jalal consciously discussing matters of the heart with atifa. If he was under some spell he would just be so taken in that he wouldnt need to get into logic and reasoning.

So, is obvious that he is playing a bigger game.

But why show so much touching and hugging? Because the CVs want to confuse us whether it is happening or it is a game. And they have succeeded.

I would watch the ruq and atifa scene very closely today. I still have my doubts that she has been sent by mahachuchak. I think.this is all ruk's planning and doing.

Why is he waiting? Maybe because he doesnt know their actual plan. He wants to get to the roots.

Why misbehave with jodha? I dont think jalal is too bothered with why jodha saved khyber issue. I think he knows her life is in danger from atifa and company so he wants to send her off to a safe place. Khyber and this jodha saving is just a garb. He wants jo to leave his palace and go to be amer. But not in a happy farewell kind of a way. He wants jodha to be disgusted and deeply hurt and leave for amer. That way his jodha is also safe and the villains will not be after her life thinking whats the big deal she is already heart broken.

I have a feeling we will see more of coochie coo and fillers this week because the kidnap and forest shoot has been delayed. Its pouring out there apparently!

Very good and plausible theory, buddy! But why can't Jalal simply tell Jodha "There is danger to your life. I think you should go to Amer and be safe"? All this charade just for this?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jo should be careful about her jewelry .Twice her necklace broke,bangle broke today and many times she lost her paayal.Jallu if you don't need ,please return the first paayal of first meeting during gangaur as KZ will keep it happily.Now the dupatta he has should go for dry cleaning.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi,

Merawala fav green with your predictions was best.
Yesterday's episode was horrible to digest even a whole bottle of Hajmola won't help.It made me cry at Jo's state seriously.As if my own better half had ditched me.And the actress playing Aatifa is hell annoying.It seems her screen presence was less to irritate , that now she gave exps so horrid that somebody broke eggs on her face during the so called Jalal- Aatifa love scene.
And what's with HB yaar? Where her beti prem went for Jo.She proved to be true MIL .I know she should be upset with Jo ,because according to Agra guys, what Jo did was an insult of Shehenshah in public.But this incident happened today and before that only she has totally ignored Jo.Can't she atleast tell Jalal once ,what he is doing is wrong? Where is the wise Salima? Doesn't she know what's going on ? Can't she give emotional support to Jo? She too is Khaas begum of Jalal ,so can't she question him as a wife?
Jalal is acting has become more clearer now that we can see when he enters the Hojra ,he is worried that he has to now pick up the fight.Jalal should get oscar for his acting (I am talking about Jalal in serial not the actor,though I do feel RT is performing very good)Since every action has reaction ,I am just worried about what will be Jo's reaction when she starts believing that he has gone for Aatifa.Because pregnancy hormones do cause depression and anxiety.
Is the husband of Aatifa. a KS or will he act like KS the way Sujamal did?Because if we look at Tomm's Precap ,I feel the husband will be asked to give divorce and he would be asked to leave and he will return in the dress of KS to help Aatifa.
I do believe in your Jo's jungle adventure.But after so many adventures,if Jo gives birth to kids then the history of obstetrics will write the day in golden letters.



Don't give me the credit for the predictions. The credit goes to Diksha for getting the bulk of it all from her contact. I just put it all out again as some people had missed seeing Diksha's post yesterday. Plus I added the bits we saw on SBS/SBB etc and fleshed it out.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: skanda12

Don't give me the credit for the predictions. The credit goes to Diksha for getting the bulk of it all from her contact. I just put it all out again as some people had missed seeing Diksha's post yesterday. Plus I added the bits we saw on SBS/SBB etc and fleshed it out.

Sorry Diksha.I will give credit to both of you,
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: nabiii

Largely, diksha's spoiler is prospective spoiler to me as almost like this way i have thought abt this track frm starting. Basically it wasn't trustworthy to me that ja had any plan as this type witty,sage jalal specially against foes had been lost long time ago(i think frm benazir track) then i thought perhaps he is under spell. Hence, i have searched internet to know abt detail hypnotism n black magic. I got to know to make anyone in hypnotism its a lengthy process almost there were 7-10 steps n to make drinking or by touching its quite not possible to bring anyone under hypnotism. Now abt black magic i read those who r come under black magic they have faced in many physical prblms like mental fatigue,exhusted,eyes become red etc. However, these type symptoms aren't shown in Jalal yet in any episode.
Anyways, if Jalal is pretending then definitely he still loves Jodha so its impossible for prior Ja who claims that he loves jodha ample to behave barbarously with his pregnant. Hence, his pretending option is quite out frm my mind.
Every track is presented for teaching lesson to Ja but its retained in him only for few days then again Ja does new blunder. Yai sai e toh chalra hai. I think at the end of this track he wl get he can fall in love with thousand ladies but among them nobody is like Jodha who only can love him unconditionally n can give up her life for him. Infact i don't think atifa is last lady in Ja's life in serial as his foes welly know abt his womenizer nature hence again n again they send only ladies as assassins in agra palace.
Above these all, i desperately want that i prove wrong. B/c if ja is shown genuine leecher of atifa then it wl b maut sai bara saza for pure n innocent Jo that she has submitted herself to a leecher,cheaper,lier.

For me the strongest reason why they will show Jalal is faking is because otherwise religious sentiments will be hurt if in the Ramzan month the great Mughal king of historic fame is shown as having exactly opposite of the exemplary behaviour he should have.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, I thought I will not see the colour in your thread (only black & white) and was thinking of requesting people to colour it 😉😉. Anyways, I knew you can't suppress your urge to shell out your heart with the update. 😊
OK, I will write more later but thought just to share one random thought I got, all of a sudden from non where.
What if Atifa is the bite Jalal using to trap who ever is helping his enemies and planning to hurt his wife / kids & him. He would have thought that MC would not have declared war all of a sudden without any inner details about his army status. Nigar could not have got so much details just in few days, if she were not been helped by someone else from inside the palace. If whatever Naigar claimed about she saw her mother trapped in some cave nearer to the jail, then it has to be the handy work of some one who has a good control over the security system, else it would not have been possible to keep a queen hidden for so long. and to provide food and other facilities and also some people to guard her was impossible, had it been by one of his enemies and also it can't be by a new person to the service as the queen was missing for more than 2 decades. Added to all this Ruqaiyya was fed with some arc which caused her baby and also her ability to become a mother.
Added to this, he had realized that there could be some trap door behind the jail as Jodha had heard some noise behind the jail walls when they visited the jail and he had realized that when he went into that cave to check for Chand Begum and later he shared that info with Jodha that she was right about hearing the noise. Hence I suspect he was aware of the surang from Jail which leads to Jodha's room and since he was expecting someone to endanger Jodha and her kids, will use that trap door and that could be the precise reason he has planted Kyber in that particular cell and would have given incharge of that to Todarmal. Meanwhile he alongwith TM & AK would have plotted a scheme and implanted Atifa and her husband as refugees from Afghan and allowed them to stay in palace. May be this husband is to keep an eye on Jodha's welfare while Atifa will act as Jalal's new love / lust interest and distract people. For sure whoever wants to hurt Jodha will get in touch with this lady and might plan something big to harm Jodha. And Jalal would have planned his hunting trip just to give those culprits enough time to dig their own grave. His hugging of Atifa, singing I love to Atifa in public, giving enough room for his people to gossip on his relationship with Atifa all will be part of his plan. Otherwise an emotionally controlled guy like Jalal, why will he act like a street dog and hug Atifa outside her room that too while her husband was asleep in her room? He wanted someone to watch him in those awkward moments in some inappropriate positions, so that everyone will completely believe that Jalal has drifted from Jodha and will not rush to her rescue. Only then they will go with their attack on her fearlessly. When he had not even hugged his own wives while outside their rooms, why will he do that with an outsider?
And the question about why he had to act so harsh with jodha, if he was infact trying to save her, guys, he had to give all the impression that he has totally driftef away from her and that could happen only if Jodha believes that. Have we not seen him hiding the truth from her when she was declared Pregnant and even after he realized the truth that she was not, he kept it between him and Salima so that he could nail the culprit.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Jo should be careful about her jewelry .Twice her necklace broke,bangle broke today and many times she lost her paayal.Jallu if you don't need ,please return the first paayal of first meeting during gangaur as KZ will keep it happily.Now the dupatta he has should go for dry cleaning.

A shop can be set up with all thr broken and repair jewellery just as a pleasant pastime from this godawful track. How about a Meena Bazaar in the middle of all this track. Khyber can allow people to click selfies with him to earn money!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, I do think Jalal's anger towards jodha is genuine, he would not have said such strong words for sake of a naatak, besides his self talk in day before yesterday's episode he did say that I can't believe you insulted me in front of my awaam, these are the very same words he said to Jo yesterday. If he wanted to prove his falling out with Jo , no need to vent his anger on Maan Singh.
One thing I am sure of, Atifa and her husband are misleading everyone, if you look closely in yesterday's episode, when Jalal is walking towards Atifa's room, her husband gives a slight glance towards the door, and then pretends to sleep off. Wether or not Jalal is aware of Atifa's motive remains to be seen.

I think the original intent of this track was to show Jalal genuinely being smitten by Atifa, but going by viewers mood PH may change the ending of this track to show Jalal faking it. There is no other way to redeem him now, especially since he has gone to the extent of calling Jo his past, and not having any feelings towards her!

I don't think Ruk has any hand in this so far, she may hate Jo but will not let Jalal's claim to throne be questioned for this. But now that Maham has informed her about Jalal - Atifa repercussions she will coax Atifa into emotionally blackmailing Jalal to marry her, this will help Ruk distance JA Jo further, while still not letting any real harm come to Jalal's kingship.

In the end they will show Jalal turning tables on Atifa or some magic spell logic. Any other conclusion would dent the credibility of this love story - channel, CVs and EK are not that stupid. EK has previously also shown infidelity, but when the male lead is so much in love with his wife, then the whole story of him being attracted towards someone else would be a long drawn track,and then too a lot of focus is given on showcasing husband's gulit. This is not the case here, story is progressing at break neck speed, I think on Friday Jalal will announce his decision to marry Atifa, so we need to be ready for another agonising weekend, but hopefully by next week end things will be clearer.

All said and done, even if Jalal is faking it, there is no absolute absolution for him. By not taking Jo into confidence, he has caused an irreparable damage to their relationship, and had her go through unimaginable anguish at a time when she needed his affection the most. Not to mention doing such James Bond like espionage is not befitting a king of his calibre.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi, am a great admirer of your posts. You need to be felicitated for sitting throuh this god awful track ...and even managing to write your regular posts 👏 ...you have become the *agony aunt* of the forum in these trying times 😉!!
I have stopped watchong since last week...just cant take jalal the low -life... 😭
So mansi the general consensus in the forim seems to be that either jalal is faking or he's under a spell...it is in this context that I have made a somewhat 'strange' observation. This observation has been made by many in the forum that is Jalal does not seem to be bothered about the fact that Jodha is pregnant...what I find 'strange' here is not his apparent lack of concern for a'pregnant jodha' but his complete unconcern for his unborn children per se! Mansi am I making sense...are you getting the difference the two 'apathies' so to speak? Jalal has not brought up the issue of his inborn children in conversation with anyone ever since Atifa made an entry.w..he has not mentioned his kids, even in anger, in his conversations with jodha...say something like"had you not been about to be MUZ then blah blah..." (AM I correct? As my information is totally based on WU/LU). Now isnt that strange?? It almost gives me tha impression that this part of jalal's memory has been deliberately erased...why/how...is it the result of some systematic drug induced brain-washing?? Will this 'loss of memory' be the point of realistion for jodha and others that perhaps all is not 'normal' regarding the *strange passions* that plague the emperor?????

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