Jalal deeper into Atifa fascination as Khyber enters Jodha's bedroom! - Page 8

Originally posted by: gheet

Count me in too- R is still free - and that's only reason why I am not able to digest the episodes fully. Still sulking that no villain is exposed..everyone of them is out there glorified...

Originally posted by: MPMANU

They will gain alot. Jodha is Jalal's strength and Jalal is Jodha's. No one can harm them if they together. They could not win in war by hook or crook coz of Jo. This has happen many time. So separate them and attack. It's call divide and concur.

Originally posted by: Gem12

even i doubt rukku...u just wrote exactly wat i was thinking maddy.. rukkus behaviour is normal with jalal.. how come.. who is behind atifa rukku or MC...

if its rukku ok..its her plot..atifa is here to help rukku and to seperate jalal and jodha... we hv seen chotu salima jalal and bakshi pics too...is it related to something..

if its MC..then she can kill jo using kyb and jalal using atifa..

then who is helping atifa in mahal...is it rukku?? is she is MC toy then y rukku is helping her..she cant..

coming to atifa husband wanted to leave mahal..but they didnt leave right.. who knows they are husband and wife in real or just acting this drama to get jalal's sympothy for atifa..

Kon he iske peeche MC or rukku...ya dono...

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi - you and Gem's post have got me thinking. I also read another thread by TheThinker where he has given another possibility. Which does not involve hypnosis rather Jalal knowing everything beforehand but acting this way to make Ruk believe she is succeeding. Wrote it started from the time Jalal gave warning to Ruk before Jashna.

Somehow Jashnas always bring problems in JA and here too everything started from there.

Just some random thoughts

In Sujamal track - it was MA who plotted and she was shown excessively, getting paigam, admitting Suj as KS in haram, poisoning Jalal against Jodha.

Here we have got EXCESSIVE Ruk who I think is involved. Zee guys would not tell openly it is all Ruk's plot if they knew! What is the suspense then?

The Atifa entry in JA started from bath tub scene - it was Ruk's bandi Ruksar who told Jalal that Jodha was in hamam and later after Jalal got into tub told Jodha he went to hamam looking for her. Since just the night before Jalal had assured Jodha that haram security is tightened - it is bizarre that Atifa was so easily able to get into haram AND Jodha's hamam.

Ruk was present in DEK when Kabul refugees group came and she even put on veil and came out of padada to watch Jalal's reaction to Atifa carerfully. Was Ruk hoping for exact such reaction?

Ruk is shown giving meal to HB, since when has Ruk ever taken such care of others?! After that HB has not visited Jodha and has started talking against Jodha.

Giving something to Jalal in food and drink can be very easy for Ruk. It does not have to be only in the drink she gave in yest's episode. What if they showed it to us yest as one of the clues? We might be shown in fb that she started doing it day after Jashna?

If there is actually a plot and Jalal is NOT behaving such a total callous uncaring husband of Jodha and jerk towards her - then either he is caught in it or he is pretending.

If it is a plot what is it? Bringing Atifa closer to Jalal - who will it benefit?

Ruk cos she wants to drive apart Jodha from Jalal. Ruk did not want Jodha's baby to be born and swore revenge and that she will not allow it to happen. Ruk cos she hopes if Jalal falls for someone he reverts back to earlier Jalal who she controlled and manipulated easily.

MahaC/Nigar - she might plot against Jalal but what she gains by seperating Jodha and Jalal? Maybe she is acting under MahaC orders.

Is Atifa like Ben sent to kill Jalal? In that case what is her weapon like Ben was VK!

Why is Atifa's husband constantly telling her to put on veil and not let anyone see her face? There can be 2 reasons, 1-someone will recognize her or 2-she can cast spells (ok weird but remember vishkanya, khyber? so anything is possible!) so he does not want anybody to look into her eyes and get caught up!

If Atifa's husband is on her plan, why would he say wants to leave? Is she sent by MahaC to mesmerize Jalal and drive him away from Jodha so that she can get to Jodha who is going to bring waris to Jalal?
For this MahaC has already sent Khyber handler.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi, this behavior of Jalal with another man's wife looks very cheap. They even had Adga commenting on it.

However, like you wrote if this is reverse Sujamal track and she is a relative of Jalal then everything can be turned around to look different.

In Sujamal track WE KNEW it was Sujamal and Jodha's brother - Jalal did not so the simple causal touches were taken as totally something ugly by Jalal. Once he realized it was Sujamal then everything fell into place.

Let us first consider the bath tub scene - it was horrible if it was between Jalal and what could be Nigar. She turned around to look at him, Jalal shocked and then she ran out with a padada and said Shehenshah thought I was Jodha Begum.

After that all of Jalal's lifting her veil, touching her hand etc. can be turned around to look innocent if she is discovered his relative.

I doubt if this is Ruk's plot - she would use Nigar - if she knows Atifa is Nigar!

Could it be that Ruk doesn't know who Atifa is but is just taking advantage of this apparent interest by Jalal in her to just take advantage?

If she was, why then would Ruk give Jalal a suspicious drink? Who then got Atifa inside haram for Jalal to run into her? Was it Shehnaz/Nigar?

Ruk's bandi Ruksar being there and giving messages to Jalal and Jodha point to Ruk's hand somehow.

Yes Mansi if Ruk's real face is brought in front of everybody and this is HER plot and downfall - you and all will be so happy. I guess there will be a long queue of who are feeling similar thoughts!

Originally posted by: MaddyO

So far ALL of MahaC plots have involved going with guns blazing - attack to kill. She is not about separating people!

I think the Khyber handler inside palace telling him to kill Jodha is MahaC plan. She is one track mind just order hits! They know Jodha is pregnant after the Jashna and so want to use Khyber to kill her first. Jalal maybe Atifa is sent for this - maybe Ruk is just taking advantage of the situation.

However, Ruk's bandi Ruksar was there for the first meeting of Jalal and Afifa in bathtub. Why?

Originally posted by: chitterati

Thanks for the post Mansi, kya kahoon - Watching JA has become an ordeal. 20 mins ka episode followed by 20 hours of headache. Since we are in a logic deduction mode let me share 3 possibilities I have been thinking of:

1. Atifa is cb's daughter : I had a flash, remember during Jo JA visit to prison on wedding anniversary, Jalal showed a bracelet to Jo, that was his dads, maybe when on jungle safari Jalal will notice it on Atifa's wrist. But BT scene with sister - don't think cvs are that sick, that scene was unnecessary if the end result was a sibling wala pyar.

2. Magic potion : Ruk decided to use on Jalal for herself but instead it got used on Atifa, remember in BT Atifa was wearing Ruks dress. But now, she is happy coz Jo JA are anyway drifting apart

3. Jalal genuinely falling for Atifa : maybe he won't act on impulse when he tries to get close to her in jungle and retract, but his proximity will cause Atifa's divorce

4. MA/MCB / Shenu saazish : we haven't seen them all week, but even this scheme would not involve Jalal falling for Atifa, what will this accomplish. Jo is already pregnant, if throne is the driving factor they should be attacking Jalal directly, or Jodha's babies

5. Jalal secretly investigating: based on his self talks, I don't think he has a plan. Besides he would not have let them in the palace if there was a remote possibility of a threat.

Also, although I am not questioning Jalal's love for Jo,even if Jalal is attracted to Atifa it is a temporary phase, he will come around , I hated the thrashing he gave Jo in prison - I can understand he was upset, but all that crap about " Jo biwi shauhar ko Khush or something ..." Was too much. It was as if he did not even want to understand JO's POV. And then he is going to Ruk to crib - it's like we are back JA of last September !

Anyway, I would not worry about the letter, my hunch is that Jo will reply back saying if religion is the only factor in her declining the alliance,then it's not correct. Jo knows Gigi anga, and Adgah are good people, and Jo herself has tremendous respect for Islam. Later on maybe everyone will know that Jo was instrumental in this marriage, she will be appreciated. Atleast I hope this is the way it turns out, I can't stand any further MUCH between Jo JA.

Phew... Pura weekend spoil ho Gaya! Iss on screen Jalal ke chkkar mein my real life Jalal and my 2 year old salim are getting irritated with me!

Originally posted by: skanda12

Maddy I mean this seriously ... if Ruq is seen as the culprit behind this plot we absolutely have to have a huge party on this thread! Promise???

I want nothing more than that. And you are right ... that is the point I am making that if Atifa is seen as some cousin or sister of jala every action of his - touching, staring, everything will have a totally different meaning. From last two or three days Diksha and I have been zeroing in on this Ruq, and deeply suspecting her.

And if his "fascination" of Atifa is due to Ruq drugging ... chappals are not enough for Ruq!😡

Originally posted by: skanda12

Maddy, I'll reply your post in detail tomorrow as today I have to go to buy some school textbooks for my daughter which I am hunting for from shop to shop, so I don't know how long I have will have be outside ...

... but one thing I want to say. I am so glad that you're blue mood has gone and you are sounding very much more chirpy today and are giving so many possibilities. I love that. After all this is just a silly little serial for which we are breaking our heads so much and breaking coconuts also at the same high speed!

I wanted everyone to stop being in sadness and anger and rant mode and to get into thinking mode. Bas, let out thinking be right or wrong, never mind, but at least we should be unstuck from the rut of sadness and frustration.

Your post, Gem's post, and in fact so many other posts are all today into logical thinking, possibilities thinking and looking on the side of tehkeekaat rather than just venting. Good for you all guys. I am happy if I have taken you all out of despair into active energy.

Mera maksad wahi tha!