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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

Pallavi,

I am copying here what I wrote on Archana's thread just now.

I want to add one thing here. Ever since Jodha became pregnant, she has been tortured one way or the other by the CVs. Contrast this with the FP of Ruqaiyya. 😡 I really hope we get a time leap soon. Because the longer Jodha stays pregnant, the more tortures will be planned for her. 🤢

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It's wonderful to see Abhay's post after a longgg time! ⭐️

Abhay is one of the most positive and reassuring persons on this forum. And it's at times like this when the CVs thrust unpalatable stuff down our throats that we really realize his value and sorely miss him 😕 Wish the history rule is lifted soon so that we can hear some more spicy historical stuff about the current track. 😊

Coming to the present.

Why is it that men are always, but always, given the benefit of doubt; the woman almost never?

Even when Jodha does something right, she is criticised. Even when Jalal does something wrong, he is given the benefit of doubt?

Agreed Jodha may have overstepped the limits of propriety by going personally to care for Khyber. But then again, these rules of propriety are set by men and women are expected to follow them. Anyone who sidesteps them, like Jodha, is decried as "immoral".

Why isn't the benefit of doubt given to her, that she may have some reason in mind to act like this?

Didn't Jalal learn anything from the Sujamal track? Then also he wrongly blamed Jodha. Later he realized what an egregious error he had committed. And he chastised himself for having doubted a pure soul like Jodha.

Why hasn't he retained that lesson?

Fighting for the underdog or being sympathetic to them is not new to Jodha. He has seen this in the cases of Moti, Shehnaz and Tasneem. He also knows that Jodha is not shy of going to the prison to meet prisoners, like she met SD.

Then should he be so surprised to see her in jail?

I feel the reel Jalal is being shown as someone who forgets his lessons all too quickly, esp where Jodha is concerned.

How about his own behavior?

We have been defending this reel Jalal's behavior, track after track. I am also part of this "Defend the undefendable Jalal" campaign. But for how long?

He made out with Benazir just to spite Jodha. He goes to Ruqaiyya just to make Jodha jealous and insecure. And now another woman, when his own (beloved ?) wife is going to give him his much-awaited waris!

It's not as if he doesn't know the needs of a pregnant woman. He was so caring of Ruqaiyya in her FP period. He was fawning over her like a Persian carpet under her dainty feet.

He is so protective of his own sister, BB, in her last (?) stages of pregnancy.

Then why is he so indifferent towards Jodha? Does he think she is too self-sufficient to hardly need him for any support.? Whether the 16th century or the 21st, women who are self-reliant are generally left to fend for themselves, while women who pretend to be lost and helpless (like Ruqaiyya in the FP track) are over-pampered.

Somehow this black magic concept is very off-putting. Even now, a man with a roving eye is excused for having an EMA and the whole blame is apportioned to the other woman, who is supposed to have done some black magic on the guy and the poor guy is supposed to be not in his senses - that's why he strayed.

This kind of thinking / explanation makes me very irritated.

May be in this show, Atifa genuinely knows some trickery to control his senses. I doubt it, but I will go along with it till it is proved otherwise. (Even Shehnaz was supposed to be spiritual initially, but later, we found out that was not so.)

But still, I have read in books on hypnosis that it is difficult to hypnotize a person with a strong sense of self. If this is so, how do we explain Jalal falling under the spell of Atifa, considering we believe him to be an extremely strong personality?

Many times, we think this is all Jalal's plan and he will turn the tables in the climax. But that never happens. It didn't happen in the Ben track, when he didn't realize who Ben was till Jodha drank the poison. It didn't happen in the latest war track, where he was taken captive. He had to be rescued by Man Singh, while the war was tactically won by Jodha.

Please note that I am talking exclusively of the reel characters here. Not the real ones. 😊 Till Abhay confirms this really happened, I will take the Atifa track with a jar of salt.

Why is the reel Jalal so devoid of common sense, so forgetful of his experiences, so trustful of all the wrong people (in spite of claiming he doesn't even trust his own shadow), and so, so callous towards his beloved wife (who, he claims, is his life itself)?

What are the CVs trying to show? That Jalal fumbled and tumbled his way to greatness? That he was gullible enough to fall into any and every trap and had to be rescued from it, despite himself?

And what are the CVs trying to show thru the reel Jodha? That her life was a highly tragic one in which she suffered great ignominy, in spite of being a khas begum and the MUZ?

The show sucks at this point and the only ones who seem to be having a gala time are the villains. They seem to be pretty ingenious when it comes to planning attacks on Jalal. From vish kanyas to so-called spiritual ladies to evil temptresses - there is no dearth of innovative ideas.👏

The funny thing is that, almost always, the main villains are female and their weapons of destruction are also female.

PS: I really don't see why the fact that Jodha is carrying twins is being so stressed here. An expectant woman has the same need for love, care and tenderness, whether she is carrying 1, 2 or more babies. Jodha's carrying twins is not important at this stage of the story. What is important is that she is pregnant and her husband, instead of attending to her (even after promising her), is shouting at her at the least excuse, while himself running after a married woman. 🤢


Awesome post Radhika...👏
I am so tempted to write a long long long response...Gosh, I am so busy this week( you know)...if I start writing, I know that I won't be able to stop. Will try sometime later if I am able to take a break.
Whatever respect most viewers had for Jalal, thanks to the first 6 months of JA...was gone in 60 secs ( or 21 mins of today's episode).
More later😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: akdhalover

Yes it could be nigar's doing
But jalal??? He was so out of the limit today
Who hates benazir track now??? Atleast jalal didnt went mad for her
I cnt see jealousy
I cnt get the meaning of the track
Why i mean why???
Khyber is a darinda but definately his concern for jo is 1000times more than jalal
M i here to watch an epic love???
Or m i here to see how love has been degraded to the limit!??

After reading Tamy's, Abhay's comment and putting my own brain...I can think of only two options now to redeem Jalal...
1) The lady is a kind of hypnotist who enamoured him by his looks...He lost his senses and then we cannot blame him...
2) He is acting TEDA...Trying to think hard and keeping her in his panaah to know more about her and her intentions...
If both the above fails and CVs have a better plan to justify Jalal's actions then OK...OR Else, this track would be a total crap from my side...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Also posted this on choco's thread...

Thankfully I have the option of skipping this episode after reading the updates.
So are we heading towards an epic LUST story?
I think that the CVs have delibrately introduced this track...this is being done to prepare the viewers for a leap. It is their attempt to wean us off the present Jalal who we have all grown to respect. After watching todays episode, ninety percent of the female viewers will hate this new j**k Jalal who eyes another woman while the wife he claims to love, is pregnant...most civil 21st century women( viewers) find it difficult to respect such men . They are making sure that the viewers don't create a riot post leap just because they miss the sweet loving caring husband Jalal. They are showing him as a hard core polygamist. And a husband who yells at his pregnant wife when all she is doing is being herself...a kindhearted and considerate woman...epic love story is out of the window...If they hv Salim- Anarkali story in mind, then the trp aunties will find it easier to accept the loyal Salim over his j**k father who couldn't stay loyal to any woman...even the one who risked her life to save his and was pregnant with his kids. He is shown to be upset with her when this forgiving and large hearted wife ( who forgave evil people like Ruk, Nigar Aapa, BB n SD) sympathizes with Khyber, the beast man who saved her life by going against his nature. Like it or not...this is our Jodha...she goes out of her way for
"insaaniyat"...aren't MA, Ruk and Nigar bigger culprits than Khyber who is nothing but a child trapped in a giants body. Is it surprizing that Jodha sympathizes with him? He was kind to her when he could have killed her ...and then saved her from MC's soilders. Most of us would have done the exact same thing. If no one was ready to go near him out of fear...Jo took it upon herself to help him. The 16 th century experts on female behavior who write the cliche " this is not how 16th century women behaved" need to understand that 16 th century women in a polygamous set up didn't go out of their way to get their husband to forgive a decietful and evil wife like Ruk either...So it is acceptable for a 16th century woman to save Ruk from punishment but not ok for her to try and save a child- giant who was kind to her.
But the Atifa track is not about Jo...this is about Jalal and his polygamous lifestyle. Viewers will find it easier to accept a committed and sensible Salim after this track...and no one will miss Jalal or his love story.. In the process, they will do a lot of damage to Jalal's image...but who cares? Let's focus on the trps. 😉

Wonderfully put Cleo😛...I agree ...
Already Jodha has been thru a lot during this pregnancy... I can recall Jalal's dialogue to BB " the first 3 months are very crucial for a pregnant woman"...This is what CVs are churning to show us Jalal's care and love for Jodha during her pregnancy period...
I can also not rule out the possibility about the purpose of the PH to slowly wean viewers before that big LEAP if any...PATHETIC
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

chill guys... just watched the episode repeatedly just now... be sure, precap is misleading, and this track ll come out differently...

just now while watching, few things struck me... ll put everything tomorrow on Mansi's thread...

now i feel this is going to be the most awaited track for all of us... and this time i want to be right...

HOPE YOU TURN RIGHT...I WANT TO SEE ONLY RIGHT...LIKE A TEDA JALAL WHO IS SUSPICIOUS AND TRYING TO DIG DEEPER AND FIND THE TRUTH OR THE LADY IS A HYPNOTIST...ANYTHING THAT WILL JUSTIFY JALAL'S BEHAVIOUR AND PUT THIS LOVE STORY BACK TO TRACK...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Where was Hb's love who trusted her even in Tiger attack ,sujamal fiasco and today she just got swayed by Ruku.
Ruku does she have any humanity left for plotting against a pregnant woman.
I will hate Jo now if she goes again and again in front of Jalal.Just sit in your hojra and according to our tradition a girl goes to Maika for her delivery so please call Mainavati to fetch you.

HB --- DISAPPOINTED ME RASHMI...
RUKU ----- SHE NEVER DISAPPOINTS...
TODAY, I AM BEGININING THE DAY WITH HOPE...HOPE THAT JALAL'S ACTIONS WILL BE JUSTIFIED ...CVS PLEASE...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Pals2411

HOPE YOU TURN RIGHT...I WANT TO SEE ONLY RIGHT...LIKE A TEDA JALAL WHO IS SUSPICIOUS AND TRYING TO DIG DEEPER AND FIND THE TRUTH OR THE LADY IS A HYPNOTIST...ANYTHING THAT WILL JUSTIFY JALAL'S BEHAVIOUR AND PUT THIS LOVE STORY BACK INTO TRACK...



I am rooting for teda Jalal, especially after watching the epi..Don't know what CVs have in store for us
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: akdhalover

Was seriously the focusing on atifa's eyes???

😆...DONT STARE HARD...WARNA WE WILL LOSE YOU TOO
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chitterati


Woh sab thik hai, Atifa may have descended from celestial planets for all I care - but why did Jalal get so smitten by her. Our anger - It's not about why / how Atifa came, instead about how could Jalal do this to Jo. No explanation short of a magic spell is going to redeem Jalal for me

@BOLD: I HAVE BEEN HANGING ON TO THIS LINE SINCE YESTERDAY...STILL CLINGING...I AM ADDING "TEDA JALAL" TO MY LIST TOO NOW...ANY SANE IDEA THAT WILL SHOW THAT JALAL IS ONLY JODHA'S ...AND IF THAT HAPPENS, I WILL GIVE MAAFI TO CVS BUT NOT FOR PLAYING WITH OUR EMOTIONS😭 ...THOUGH I WANT THEM TO SHOW A LOT MANY EXPOSURES THAT ARE LONG PENDING...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -ambrosia-

itna gussa to mujhey benazir ke time bhi nahi aaya tha jitna ab aa raha hai😡...cvs mere saamne aa gaye to sar kalam kar dungi inka😡

Benazir track is way way way better than this
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: rima4ever

thanks for the update

WELCOME RIMA😊

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