Take 5: Top 5 countdown for July 17th - Page 3

Originally posted by: divyavm

Today, I knew Jalal would be freed and back to base camp ... However, I did not expect too much action today from him ... Yes, his fighting spirit is back as the "zakhmi sher" to a certain extent though Jodha-Jalal still seem mixed on their anger on Nigar ... Seriously, I don't think the CVs know what they are doing with Nigar 😕

Before, I get to the precap debate ... want to walk you through the episode as I saw each of the characters:

(1) Jodha: I liked the various forms of Jodha today

- Her angry rage at Nigar ... (Which changed to a - I didn't shed her blood with Jalal ... I am not sure why)

- Her relief at having Atgah Khan enter with reinforcements

- Touched at the miracle of Ruqaiyya praising her

- Her happiness and relief at seeing Jalal back and resting her shoulder on him ... Very simple, husband-wife moment but touching 😳

I also liked the eye-lock when they both see each other after Jalal comes back- i got teary-eyed imagining how it must have felt to c ur beloved alive. (it goes both ways)

I cannot be mad at Jodha for the weakness of Jalal ... That is the CV's fault who do not realize a strong woman, looks even stronger in the company of strong men.

I agree with u. I had made same point in another thread and I must applaud u 👏 that u're able to direct ur anger at CVS for Jalal's weakness rather than be mad at jodha. It would have been gr8 to c both strong at same time but don't know when CVS will learn that.

(2) Atgah and the soldiers to the rescue: It was great to see Atgah arrive with reinforcement and the teamwork of both the men and women in defeating the enemy. 👏

It made it more realistic as well, given Nigar had arrived with reinforcements as well.

I just don't understand why did Jodha and nigar stop fighting at that time?

(3) Maan Singh: The Navratan is finally emerging ... He successfully defeats Raja Ramachandra, spots the spy and finds out Jalal's spot of captivity ⭐️

Liked his entry hitting the arrows from the back ... And he got his share of punch dialogues too.

I am glad Maan Singh is getting more dialogues and screen space, finally! He needs the practice if he is going to be a Navratan. 😉

Agree.

(4) Todarmal in action: Loved to see an angry Todarmal charge to stop Abul Mali and wield the sword. Don't forget I am the president of the Todarmal Fan Club. 😆

Oh why oh why, did they again have to show Todarmal lose to Abul Mali and close to death again? Oh ya, so Abul Mali kill MahaC some day. Okay, that is worth it! 😉

Loved the bromance , care, and concern in the hug between Todarmal and Jalal! 👏

me 2- I like Todarmal too and I want nigar to be punished for accusing todarmal and also for letting his bhabhis get manhandled by AM.

(5) Jalal is returning: I am glad he is not captive and tortured anymore. He did not have much action to do in the war today but attack the one soldier to prove to us that his strength was still in there somewhere

... so he did the next best thing which was appreciate the efforts of his people whether it was Maan Singh to placing the injured soldier on the stretcher. 😆

Guys, his recovery will be slow ... Give him time. I know after the Ben track we had given up all hope but he recovered.

I feel like saying "Bhimaar hai bechara" and do a "Lage Raho Munna Bhai" type Gandhigiri protest till the CVs bring him back! Who is with me? 😉

I was happy to C jalal back and wish he was fighting too but it was nice to c episode from his POV as in telling what he felt to Todarmal, MS, Hakim , harem and Jodha.

Oh yes, and the precap.

Before we get to the precap, I think the war is still not over ... That is why Jodha has not shared the pregnancy news with him yet. So, I am praying and hoping Jalal returns to the war front!

I was wondering same thing...

And now the precap ...

I could make the excuse they didn't show the precap in the US ... But I will not ...

I have leant from past experiences to wait and watch then entire scene so I am going to wait until tom to comment on it.

The good news:

- Jodha does deserve praise for what she did ... I mean seeing Jalal's distraught look at seeing the harem tents destroyed you could see what all has Jodha saved for Jalal and the Sultanate! How much it means to Jalal!

- Ruq's continue to smile genuinely as Jalal praised Jodha in public ... Now that is the acid test if I ever saw one 😉

- The CVs want to show a woman getting the praise she deserves in a world of men (and of course the dialogue writer was OTT to emphasize it)

- It is completely in the show Jalal's character to give everyone praise ... Particularly Jodha

- And if that didn't work to cheer you up, precaps have been misleading in the past. 😆

I hope that Jalal praises the others who helped on the war and appreciates their effort as well.

A few funny observations:

- After mirchi ... Abul Mali has found the next effective weapon, mitthi 😉

- I know there have been some jokes on why both Nigar and Jodha stopped fighting on seeing Atgah ... While it may seem that they were staring at Atgah's looks but Nigar realized she had lost advantage and fled ... How convenient to drag the track!

- After the harem was destroyed, they came up with new replacement tents quite quickly ... That is impressive. Jodha looked pretty comfy.

- 30 hours of torture ... And Abul Mali couldn't even get that right. And one spa sitting and Jalal is looking fresher than ever ... I want that spa treatment after watching this show! 😆

- I don't know why this occurred to me ... But the precap scene reminded me of SRK's dialogue from Kuch Kuch Hota Hai that a man bows before three people: his mother, Mother Goddess, and his wife. The CVs have taken this romantic hero a script a bit too seriously, no? 😆

Take it in light humor ... This is a tv show at the end of the day ...

So, thoughts on the take and the episode?

Originally posted by: munnirony

Akbar will never be the same. Nd not sum things the entire track was a let down. Idea of showing strong woman was gud but the route which CVs took was totally wrong. Infact by doing this CVs themselves made the entire 'nari shakti' issue a joke. If it was shown in a proper nd right way people would have remembered it for jodha's bravery but now many people will remember it for jalal's degradation. We can see it in any angle we want but the fact remains jalal was lowered down to show jodha doing evrything. Instead if CVs had shown both equally strong then even jodha's 'shaan' would have increased more.

Originally posted by: ashpat

Originally posted by: rima4ever

awesome analysis divya

i was very angry for a weak jalal

but now i feel good after reading this

i love u for adding the kkhh analogy at the end

see my dp u will know why

Originally posted by: mandyg

have not seen the epis of this week and do not feel motivated either..just visiting forum for my friends..but love ur positivity my dear divi👍🏼

Divi Beautiful Post .. Yesterday's episode was good..

Abumali proved again he is a coward who knows only to attack from behind or to back stab people..

Wen shenu came to fight she cud hardly stand before jodha.. glad to see jodha made shenu fall on the ground...and how she fled seeing huge army of jalal's and atga..again proved she is another coward who no's only to back stab.. I seriously don't understand on what basis all these thinks they wanted to rule Hindustan..and become mallika or shehensha of Hindustan...baagne ke alawa kuch nahi ata..aur chal se war karna...shame on them

Maansingh and his story how he got d hint from Mali soldiers and how rescued jalal was good...guess rajvanshi's weakness is to give bashans..pehle jodha,todaramal now maansingh...these people never get tired...bichara mera jalal ..sab ke bashan sun na padega

I hav high expectations from maansingh and his warrior skills..but he is very bad in sword fighting..another dandiya competition bet maansingh and abumali..he was looking very funny yesterday.. no one can beat jolal..even adham maham are good in sword fighting..just hope maansingh too learns sword fighting ..cant see any more dandiya dances..

High light of this episode is how jalal carried that injured soldier ...was so touched by his humble ness...

Hamida rona dona and hugging jalal...there also teda jalal baate hamida se aur nigahe jodha pe.. he promised jo that he il come back..and fulfilled his promise..another high light is rukku praising jodha..just hope she remains same even after knowing Jo's pregnancy ...

Again maham is jealous when everyone praised jo..and did salaam to her.. was good to see...Jo deserves it..one thing is clear maham holds no importance in jalal's life now..have u noticed rukku addressed jalal as shehensha..and praised jo..he was not even bothered to look at her.. inke beech bi duriya badgayi hai..

Again adham ke mooh se laddoo cheena gaya...

I just love jodha's hakima sahiba..she is so cute and chubby yar..plus good soul not like other hakima sahibas... she talks very sweetly..man karta hai bus use dekte hi jaon..

Jolal conversation was good..how jalal praised her..how jo cried and vent out her pain... but cant see langda jalal yaar..he looks horrible ... instead of this they cud hav shown some injuries on his face or neck...

Wen this girl jo il reveal her pregnancy news yaar... just dying to see jalal's expressions..

Coming to precap :

Many are feeling that Jalal praising Jo is OTT...yeah coz of her faith and her bravery harem and all begums survived...her leadership and faith on jalal made everyone to realize only cowards il take thr lifes..and to fight like a brave warrior till the end of thr life..either fight or die...this harem fight made abumali and shenu loose the war and thr army.. absence of abumali's army and shenu made maansing job easy in rescuing jalal...

Everyone contributed equally in this war...jalal should praise everyone..but being a women she not only faced abumali and his army infact made everyone to fight..wen thr is no one to safe guard harem she took the responsibility..i feel thr is no wrong in praising jo in front of every one as she deserves it..being pregnant she travelled with jalal that too at the initial stage of her pregnancy and fought with enemies ...this is not an easy task..she hid her preg news from everyone so that they can concentrate on war ... even real jodha travelled with jalal in many wars..that too wen she was 9 mons carrying ..wen Daniel was in her womb..real jalal recognized her warrior and fighting skills and leadership skills and hence she was given incharge of 12000 cavalry.. here he praised her infront of everyone..

Many may feel Jalal has got nothing to do in this war... foolishly believed shenu and became thr captive...maansingh went to save jalal...even in real akbar's life bagwant das and maansingh saved jalal's life manytimes..infact one of jo's brother died while saving jalal.. jo saved him twice or thrice.. that doesn't mean he is not fit to be shehensha or he is weak... he is not god..at times people tries to attack him or backstab him ..then his wellwishers comes to rescue him and save him...maansingh also did the same thing..

Jalal was never weak..fact is this time war was not between enemy kingdoms..its between blood relations..wen it comes to relations khud bhagwan bhi kamzor padjata hai..to jalal kya cheez hai..wo bhi insaan hai..mistake hogayi..sab seek chukka hai..how to handle and manage his dil and sultanat and his relations..he realized his absence & one foolish mistake almost took everyones life..just he is lucky his jodha is thr to take care of everything in his absence...atga maansihg and TM were thr to rescue him...

Jalal was the only emperor who became a king at the age of 13 and won many wars..no one hv the guts to stand against him... at times becomes weak wen his own one tries to kill him..we cannot withstand even if one of our friend cheats us..here his own brother sister and son was against him.. just salute him for his bravery... even after so many backstabs from his own ones still he is remembered as one of the greatest emperor...a king il be always protected by his queen and ministers ..even in chess game same logic applies..if in the show some one helps jalal that doesn't mean he is weak..pehli baar dil mila ya..toda ulaz gaya ..sambhal jayega..

Still if any one feel that ekta or cv's tried to show Jo as mahaan and jalal as foolish then hope my below points gives u clarity...again I apolozise I am not dragging religious thing here ..but trying to prove at times even god and godess goes weak... out of emotions they also did same things like jalal..still they are praised and so thr stories...aaj bhi unki kahaniyo ko garv se kehte hai aur puj te hai..to phir jalal kis angle se weak lag ne laga..

Case1: godess parvati took maha kali roop to kill evil..at that time no one was able to calm her...not even her husband.. she is shown standing on the prone, inert or dead body of Shiva..then y people pray to lord shiva and praise him and godess parvathi..here can we conclude lord shiva failed to kill that evil.. and failed to stop her..so he took baby roop and stopped her..to phir kya yaha lord shiva weak hai??? Ya godess parvathi weak hai..coz that rakshas tried to hurt her daughter so she took kali roop and tried to kill him..wen lord ganesh head was cut.. then also she took kali avatar and started destroying whole world in her anger...in that case lord shiva and everyone was unable to stop her..so can we say bete ke pyar main godess parvathi sab ki vinash karne chali... who is weak here? Lord shiva or parvathi??no one..emotions made them to take such step..that doesn't mean they are weak...

Case 2: Vishnu gave word to his wife earth goddess bhudevi that that her son should have a long life, and that he should be all powerful. Vishnu granted these boons..his one mistake made narakasur over confident and killed many lifes...even god and godess failed to stop him.. after that he took krishna roop and used teda method on bhudevi who is noone other than satyabama..and made her to kill narakasur..logically vishnu is sarvantaryami..a god..must be aware of consequnces... still he gave word to bhudevi..so logically lord vishnu just to satisy his wifes wish and make her happy he risked so many lifes ..lord vishnu aka lord krishna should be logically called as weak according our forum friends ?? isnt it??

Case 3:

Lord ram went to vanvas coz of his step mother greedy wish..which lead to his fathers death.. coz of this vanvas war took place between him and ravan..coz of this vanvas sita's chastity was questioned... so can we conclude that Lord ram also became weak..coz of his step mothers wish all these things happened..so even lord ram is weak wen it comes to relationship ?? isnt it

Jab bagwan kare to hum priase karte aur pujte hai..vahi galti jalal ne kya kardiya use fool or weak kehne lagte hai..wo bhi insaan hai...to hum kya chahte hai...if jalal priases jodha we call him lover boy..if he hurts jo then jallad or heartless person..if he forgives his realtives we call him as mahaan..or fool weak and jo spoiled him..if he punishes them we say coz of jo he did punished him.. if he praises jo and loves her immensly we call him majnu and feel bad for rukku..if he goes to rukku and plays game or spends his night then we cant see him with anyone apart from jodha..if ignores others we bash him saying prem pujari... war pe na chale to prob..war pe chale to bhi prob..jodha ko credit de to prob..na de to bhi prob... khud ka decision le to prob..na le to bhi prob.. jab enemies ki baat ati to bi na soche sar kalam kardeta hai..par jaab baat apno ki aati hai to bagwan hi kamzor padjate hai to jalal kya cheez hai..wo bhi to insaan hai...

More over this is just a fictional show..better throw all logics and history out side window and watch this show..

To conclude jo as a queen did her job..and jalal as a king his responsibility is to appreciate her and everyone.. hope we always stands united like before and not to bash jo or jalal..as they both doesnt deserve these bashings..we should praise them not to bash..

Originally posted by: divyavm

Thanks so much! Glad you feel better!

I know you are a big SRK fan 😊

Agar mein shidhat se mangoon, will I get my Teda Jalal back? 😉 You know what I am referring to.