Why so much antipathy towards Jodha?-DT NT Pg8 - Page 2

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Radhika,

Awesome post.I read many comments that Jalal is very strong and he doesn't need anybody's help.

Also feminism can be shown without standing on anybody's shoulder.But I feel why so much discussion on Female power and for that matter male power also.

If we talk about today, it was as simple as this that girls defended themselves.Akbar would be proud of his wives.And please look males and females belonging to each other rather than opposite of each other.

This whole serial is about Jodha and Akbar's relationship.Thats what the makers and in one initial interview Rajat also said that.How they faced problems and fought them together.How their relationship developed is what it will be shown.

Those who have objections then I would ask them , why didn't you take objection on the tagline itself of "jalal ko jodha ne insaan banaya.' These words were harming his image.After this promo,there would have been lot of protests on this idea itself by many people before the serial's telecast started.Why nothing was said at that time ?

Because people know that this was historical show with fictional elements in it.There are always many versions of history not only of Akbar but of great people like Nehru,Gandhi,Subhash Chandra Bose.And this foreign writers are the biggest mischief makers.

They love to tarnish our image ,some of us must have read about things written by them about Nehru and Lord Mountbatten's wife.Similar nasty comments are made on Gandhi too.We ignore them thinking that they are sadistic psychos.

Well some international writers have written derogatory things about Akbar too and then when we can ignore them,why such hooplah here.Atleast they didn't show somethings like he sleeping with many women ,killing innocent people.They never insulted him.

Cvs made a mistake of showing Jalal making a big foolish mistake which even I didn't like.But then he is no god. Ramayan and Mahabharat shows even the gods also made mistake.

Jodha giving suggestions to Akbar is bad then what we do everyday.As a married woman I give so many suggestions to my husband and he never objects it.It is same with many married couples.I always think that in married life ,who did what is not important rather the thing done is important.

Please look at them as a married couple.Accept them as one and as 'Akdha.'

Originally posted by: rima4ever

nice post

but to make jodha great

they did not have to weaken jalal

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

All my antipathy is directed towards the CVS. ...none at all towards their puppets, ie Jalal, Jodha, Ruqu, etc...

When we criticise Jo, say for Nari Shakti track in Todarmal case, (where Jo's behaviour was totally over the roof top ), it goes without saying that the cvs have come up with a most ridiculous track, wherein, at the end, we had both TM & his wife singing chants & hymns in Jo's praise 😆 when it actually warranted a totally opposite reaction from them, at least ...

Ekta's Jo & Ekta's Jalal are totally fictionalised characters to rope in TRPS. . .the super awesome female, without whom the petty male cannot survive...There is absolutely no reason y we need to compare the real MUZ with Ekta's Jo...N same for Jalal..

.I truly believe that the real MUZ was an admirable lady, beyond compare...but except for the last 2 epis, I usually laugh out loud at the antics of Ekta's Jo...😆

Yes, some of us are not too happy with Jo's characterization most of the time, & we do make it obvious, but that does not mean we are her mothers- in law trying to pick faults in her..😆..We just don't like the crap which the cvs dish out for us...

IF is a popular platform which most PHs stalk, hence we put up critical posts to catch their attention...its just that...people who are happy with the way things are, needn't visit those threads, or if they visit, they can agree to disagree in a dignified way...simple. The negativity on the forum is NOT due to criticism of Jo...it is due to criticism of forum members...asking them to leave the forum...asking them to watch other shows.

Radhika, this has nothing to do with antipathy for Jo...it is only antipathy for Ekta's CVs. ...😊

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

I am amazed at the amount of antipathy directed towards Jodha in the forum during the present track. Why this anger with her?

• Has she done anything unpardonable?
• Is she responsible for Jalal getting captured?
• Should she meekly drink poison and die upon Abul Mali's advent, forgetting all about her extensive warfare training?

Luckily, Jodha has done nothing of which she can be ashamed nor was she in any way responsible for Jalal walking into Abul Mali/Nigar's trap.

Still, she is expected to drink the proverbial vish-ka-pyala to prove her chastity and her loyalty to her husband. And most importantly, she is expected to do nothing more than die quietly because she is after all just a woman. Not just any woman. The khas begum of Akbar the Great himself. Her life is tied to his breath. If he is supposed to be dead, then she must die too, without even thinking if it is possible that her husband may be alive and Abul Mali may be lying.

How dare she gather the rest of the begumat and launch an attack on an enemy who had captured her extraordinarily courageous husband within 5 minutes of the war starting? Doesn't she value her husband's image? How can a wife defeat an enemy who had defeated her husband? She should be ashamed of herself.

As it is, her poor but Great husband is a POW. On top of that, she has the temerity to overshadow his valour and attempt to save herself and the rest of the begums on their own, without any help from the Great husband?

I am seriously confused.

Alright, I understand Akbar was a great king and historically speaking, this war never happened and he was never captured nor did he require to be saved by his wife.

But then there are bound to be certain dramatizations in the show to pull in the TRPs. As part of a dramatization, if we could accept Akbar the Great throwing his wife out on the streets before daybreak, a wife who had drunk poison to save him, then surely, we can also accept a dramatization in which Akbar the Great is human (and good-natured) enough to be fooled by his sister.

Even if we are not happy with his capture that shows him in an extremely poor light, why are we taking out our anger on the poor ladies who are merely trying to defend themselves against violation?

What are these ladies supposed to do?

• Acquiesce to Abul Mali's demands?
• Drink poison or commit jauhar?

I understand we come from a patriarchal society where the wife is always one step lower and one step behind her husband. But still, a wife is also a person in her own right and she is also equally capable as her husband to deal with crisis. Just because she solves her own problems and is self-reliant doesn't mean that her husband is weak or a good-for-nothing.

Men are also human and likely to err sometimes. Here, Akbar's only fault was that he trusted his sister and wanted to protect her from possible tricksters. Just one mistake cost him his freedom. That's no reason to call him a weakling.

And if Jodha does indeed save him, what's the problem?

She is his life partner and it's her duty to save her husband from danger. Just because Savitri saved her husband from death doesn't make Satyavan weak.

It's not even the first time Jodha is doing it.

1. She saved him after the tiger attack by carrying him on horseback, all the way till the Mughal encampment.

2. She showered arrows on Ben to save him from Ben's kiss of death.

3. She drank poison meant for him because she couldn't bear the thought of life without him.

4. She saved him from a snake in Amer.

5. She saved him from a murderous attack in the jungle recently.

If we are aghast NOW that Jalal will probably be saved by his wife (Gosh, a Woman!), then we should have requested the CVs to kill off Jalal after the tiger attack itself. If Jodha could save him all those times, why can't she save him now?

There are also those who say that they don't mind Jodha doing hero-giri but the end victor should be Jalal. Just why is this so? Just because he is a man or just because he is a great king, doesn't make him immune to defeat/deceipt.

Let's learn to demarcate clearly between characters. Just because our favourite character is not behaving as we would like him to, we can't take out our temper on someone else. Let's also demarcate between reel and real characters.

Then only we can enjoy the show. 😊

These are my personal views. I also love Akbar but more as a person who became a great ruler rather than a superhuman who could never make a mistake. 😊