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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

All my antipathy is directed towards the CVS. ...none at all towards their puppets, ie Jalal, Jodha, Ruqu, etc...

When we criticise Jo, say for Nari Shakti track in Todarmal case, (where Jo's behaviour was totally over the roof top ), it goes without saying that the cvs have come up with a most ridiculous track, wherein, at the end, we had both TM & his wife singing chants & hymns in Jo's praise 😆 when it actually warranted a totally opposite reaction from them, at least ...

Ekta's Jo & Ekta's Jalal are totally fictionalised characters to rope in TRPS. . .the super awesome female, without whom the petty male cannot survive...There is absolutely no reason y we need to compare the real MUZ with Ekta's Jo...N same for Jalal..

.I truly believe that the real MUZ was an admirable lady, beyond compare...but except for the last 2 epis, I usually laugh out loud at the antics of Ekta's Jo...😆


Yes, some of us are not too happy with Jo's characterization most of the time, & we do make it obvious, but that does not mean we are her mothers- in law trying to pick faults in her..😆..We just don't like the crap which the cvs dish out for us...

IF is a popular platform which most PHs stalk, hence we put up critical posts to catch their attention...its just that...people who are happy with the way things are, needn't visit those threads, or if they visit, they can agree to disagree in a dignified way...simple. The negativity on the forum is NOT due to criticism of Jo...it is due to criticism of forum members...asking them to leave the forum...asking them to watch other shows.

Radhika, this has nothing to do with antipathy for Jo...it is only antipathy for Ekta's CVs. ...😊


Khushi,

I am very glad that you have no ill-will towards Jodha. What you feel for the CVs is between you and them 😆

@bold: I fully agree. I really wish we had more freedom of expression on our threads. Those who are interested can read; others can ignore. Why go to some one's thread specially to criticise it, complain/report against it and get it closed? I mean, what do some members get by getting others' threads closed?

It's really sad and I feel very anguished about it. Come on yaar, let's all live and let live. There's space for all of us here. Still, even wonderful writers like Abhay are complained against and their threads are made to close. 😕 There is no competition going on here. Let each one be free to say what they want to; why bully them into leaving the forum?

@blue: This is the only part I differ from you. Sorry Khushi, but Ekta's JJ are closer to the real ones than the Jodha-Akbar shown in the movie. Yeah, certain cinematic licence is taken with them sometimes and it despairs me too. But on the whole, the main story is being adhered to and that is what counts.

Let's remember one thing. JJ were not Akbar and MUZ from day 1. They evolved from ordinary royalty to that level over quite a few years. In those few years, they saw a lot of the rough side of life too. In the show, at present, Jalal is just evolving into Akbar and Jodha is not yet MUZ. So we cannot compare initial stage characters with later stage characters and say there's a mismatch. There's bound to be a mismatch. Come on, even I will be different in different phases of my life!😊




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Radhika

There is no antipathy towards Jodha now. Agree, there was some earlier when she was too blinkered to see reason. She kept doing to Jalal what she did to Todarmal. - vehemently accusing without thinking from the other person' s pov. She may have her own but so much insistence that you can never be wrong was not likeable. Also the establishment of mahaanta at the end of every track including the todarmal track was not in good taste.

She was impressive in the earlier tracks when her anger was justified and ever since she is back to Agra ( except in tm track) there is no ill feeling towards the character at all.

All the recent complaints have been regarding the dumbing down of Akbar. If Jalal had been enthusiastic about the war afyer Jo/ Ruqs convinced him and had set out with conviction and had in a weaker moment been tricked it might have been acceptable in the name of NR if we choose to forget history for some time. But one look at him in pre-war scenes was enough to demoralize even a strong army. It was repeatedly told that he didn't have sufficient trained men to fight. To believe that untrained women except for , say, a dozen or so vanquish what was declared a formidable army was unbelievable. But the performances and spirit was extremely good and enthusiastic that I was prepared to forget logic for a while and enjoy the proceeds.

Coming back to your question on why antipathy, it Is more at a logic less story line track after track and an Emperor who lacks common sense esp after he has been shown to be shrewdness personified in the earlier episodes...and when the result of each track is Mahaanta, then the antipathy is rerouted to the person claimed mahaan esp like in todarmal track.

As for the current track there was nothing wrong in what Jodha did, in fact under given circumstances it was very appreciable but the circumstances created to showcase things is not.


Sandhya,

@bold: I am again repeating what I have told some others. Zee apparently told some members including Mansi that this is a ploy by Akbar to make everyone believe that he has an insufficient army. That he is making some plans. These will be revealed later. So let's wait patiently for the track to unfold before we draw any conclusions. 😊

@blue: I have mentioned about SS ^^^^. At the beginning of each track, Jodha is shown at a disadvantage and at the end, she is shown to be vindicated. If you call this Mahanta, what can I say? 😊

In fact, in the present track, Jalal is being shown at a total disadvantage and is touted to take a complete U-turn at the end. 😆

Like Khushi said, please re-route your antipathy/anger against the CVs. What can the characters do? 😊

@red: I am glad you find the present track happenings appreciable. Take the circumstances with a pinch of salt. 😊

Manmohan Desai once said that the audience should leave their logic at home when they come to enjoy his movies. It's the same with any serial too. Take it with a pinch of salt and you'll enjoy it better. That's what I usually do. I just spoke out this time because I don't like negative feelings. Criticism is good but going overboard with negative talk is not. I don't mean you. I meant the forum in general and some members in particular. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra

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Radhika, well said.

present track, is ques is not, AKbar was warrior, We all know, he was Great, no need to prove his Greatness, Historically, this incidence happenend or Not.

But currunt situation, A KING wants to save his realtion, because he recentely knows about Realtion & realtionship values, He wants, Others Will also learn, valu of realtionship, so he
trusted Nigar, One mistake he did, He knows, This mistake, will effect, whole Kingdom, & Main his HAREM ladies,

But he knows Jodha strength, & she will not accept, AM, orders easily.But this step will come AKBAR Life Blance & more awareness, which needed, EVERY KING. Cv should Aware that.

But ques is now, Female what do,

is they surrender, OWN, AM, ? or they drank poision,

Jodha knows Rajvanci culture, she knows how to does JOHAR, But Her belive, JALAL is ALIVE, or Faith own, Her fighting SKILLS, she decided, to fight, she prepared, OTHERS begums, GREAT,

Now others attacks will sure Happen after this attack, but Anyone KING, not think, easily ATTACK, on HAREM, Others will think, JALAL begums contains WILL power +knows How to fight.

Very easy, die, tough, to LIVE, & face situations, so Jodha party or GB, HB, all are doing their best, they choosed a RIGHT WAY. in 16 cen or 21 cen, needed this time.


Wonderfully put, Ayushi!

@Red: That's the main thing. The ladies chose to live and FACE their challenges instead of chickening out. 👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Giannita63

Every once in a while I reply to some posts that capture my interest and this is one of them.

Excelent points!!! I've been saying that in some few posts that there are SOME people that no matter what Jodha does, they are never happy and keep bashing everything she says and does. By fortune, they are quite few. And the reason I believe goes farther than being upset because she is being glorified at the cost of the great Akbar. Is because they simply don't like Paridhi as Jodha. Beyond the character itself, they hate the actress. Maybe they wanted another actress to play the role and can't get over the fact Paridhi was the chosen one. So bashing Jodha for everything is their way to protest against the actress... They love Rajat as Akbar to the core, but can't tolerate Paridhi as Jodha.

The sad thing is that they also spoilt another forum that I used to like a lot. The forum has become now what I call "the Jodha haters forum". Nowadays is hard to see more than 20 replies to regular posts, but the "I hate Jodha" posts get quite active. So maybe the people who likes the show, like Jodha and used to be there just left...

I know I may annoy some with my comments but is my impression and POV of what is happening with Jodha and why so much antipathy towards her. If it has been only because of Akbar character degradation, why the riot doesnt go to the ones to blame, the genious CV's and EK?? Why the anger against Jodha that is a mere character written by this group of nonsense people who seems that never took history class??

Ths good thing is that no matter how many haters the actress has, they get doubled by the fans she has. At least for myself I ignore the negative comments against Jodha and enjoy the good comments on her and her performances when they are good, like in the last two episodes.


Welcome to the forum and please speak out more often! Your post is excellent and I love your thinking!!!

There's someone else who will love you for saying @bold line. My friend, Maddy. 😆 You sound just like her here.

@blue: Right! But my dear, EK did do a lot of research before the show and her show is far better in its representation of history than the movie. 😊

Please keep posting! ⭐️

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am very upset with you. You are not posting a single comment when you make such wonderful comments/posts. 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Radhika, a nice take but surely I can't see Jalal was degraded in this track. neither they are showcasing Jodha as great. The fact they are trying to show is that Even a great king who think and write history with his sword can also go weak when it comes to his family. Here they are showing how eager Jalal was to share his love & affection with his just acquired sister for whose love & affection, he had been looking for ever since he has been a child. Just because my brother or sister thought bad of me will keep me at bay if I notice them being in problem. Even before realizing what I am doing, I will be at their service and would try to help them out of the crisis and later I might go back to the same mode or they may not even acknowledge my support but that doesn't dampen my spirit and I will be hell bent to help them. And it is the same case with my husband and he will rush to his people at moment of need and at that moment, if I need some support while he is away, I will have to take care of me and that doesn't diminish his virtue and he will not feel bad that I helped myself in times of need.

If by taking care of my need on my own makes others feel that I made my husband look foolish, the it is their fault. And if I feel my husband should not have rushed to his sister or brother's rescue then it is my fault and if my husband feels I should have waited till he comes back to support me, then it is his fault.
If we should feel that Jodha and others should not have fought for their virtue and it would have been better for them to consume poison, the moment they heard about the death of Jalal, then we would not have seen so many widows, say like Hamida Banu & Maham Anga. What was their fault even if Jalal would have been dead, if they had fought for their life and modesty, why they should be blamed? Who has told that the royal women had to consume poison or commit Jouhar the minute they hear about their husbands death? That should be their last resort but before that they have all the right to live their life.



Jaya,

I want to give you a standing ovation for this post. It is EXCELLENT!!!! 👏

I hope everyone who reads this thread reads this post. You are one of the few sane and balanced voices on the forum and I am so happy you came here and made this post. Thank you so much!!!

🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow what a post. A much needed post. I loved the way Jodha was portaryed as it is in sink with her character. Really awesome track. It really showing how a couple ned to support each other and how a woman should behave. Jodha is trying to protext herself and womeen of harem as she knows Jalal wil definetly come and dont see whats wrong in it. Really good episodes after a while.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@All who have liked this thread
Thank you so much! It's your appreciation that keeps me going. 😳

Do share your views too. A forum is meant for sharing and learning from each other. I would love to hear your views and learn from you, wherever possible.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I read all three of your posts in past 1-2 days and liked them all.
As I said in Divya's post, I like seeing Jalal strong but I also like seeing Jodha strong too. It would be awesome to c both strong at same time but unfortunately EK and her team do not know how to do that. If I want to get mad at someone then it will be EK and not Jodha and other women. Therefore, I liked today's episode.

I really do not like it when one character is shown is weak to strengthen other charatcer but then what is the character's fault? If one wants to get mad, then be mad at CVS. People's anger is directed at Jodha when she has done nothing wrong in this track. She is just defending herself and motivating other women to defend themselves. What is wrong with fighting for onself's life, pride and honor?

I hated it when they showed Jalal to be fooled by Shehnaaz but then realized later that may be they are trying to show that how his emotions are overpowering his common sense when he sees Shehnaaz injured. If a brother sees his sister in that state, he will not think that sister is fooling him at that time (I know many are saying Akbar was never captured in history so this was a distortion of history but in history Akbar has forgiven his relatives many times). It is just sad that CVS nitpick parts of history and sometimes overdramatize certain parts of the track or introduce ridiculos tracks because they do not care about history and only care about TRP's.

Anyways, I was digressing from the point. I would just like to say that direct your anger at correct party (I mean CVS ) and not character bec Jodha did not tell or do anything to make Jalal weak. He got trapped by his sister but he will be back with a bang and it will indeed be a treat to watch just like how I enjoyed watching Jodha and other begums fighting.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Radhika you are rocking again I see with show coming back to our old jodha akbar some members like u back with bang
loved all post u made in these three days

I joined the forum during ben track and now I am addict to forum and love my freinds
that time also it was anti jodha forum whatever happened in show direct or indirectly all blame was always in her character
I always believed ekta and cv promised us a lot ve story of jodha akbar with there emotions and till date it lived to that promise

Jodha hatred biggest reason was always tooo much loved ve for rajat
those who love him as akbar accepted him with so much less ve but paridhi ke liye they always pointed fingers I am not doing comparison
coz I love both equally foe me no one means no can be jodha akbar other than these two
they breath jodha akbar

and if in some episode or tracks ppl think jalal was weak but I thought no he was not character inconsist can happen forp one or two episode but he was never a weak in show
and for that if u have complaints then I always say do to right person jodha and paridhi is not the person she dont own this show

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