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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: suenitya

hi,

Great post. Goose bump when i read ur posts, especially the aadab post and today's one.

I have been so busy doing auditing got no time to go thru the forum. i have been catching up with ur write ups and so please to read your write ups than watching the serial.

Just cracking my head how jalal going to escape. Hope the CV come up with a good idea because he is a great king.

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Sumathy

Yes I too am very curious to know how Jalal will escape! And I hope he makes a dashing entry at the end of this episode today after the ladies have fully dusted up Mali and his men!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Actually I am wondering if Jalal will make his entry at the end of the episode today itself. Because Jodha kept saying "Let us start the fight ourselves, he will surely come to save us".

Yea, i strongly feel he will! I think first his heroic entry will be shown and then a flash back of he managed to escape from that place?😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Rashmi, I fully understand your point of view! But in a very strange way I have never seen the side of a woman being overpowered by a man because of my family. What I mean is my great grandmother was part of the freedom struggle and from her time onwards all the women in my family are extremely emancipated. My own mother has always told me and my sister "No one will come and give you your rights. You have to take it. Don't be aggressive but be assertive". So in a curious way four generations of women before me in my family were already liberated and never waited for men or anybody to respect them as they had "self-respect". But I do understand what you say, because I have read a lot of books on sociology and seen how women were in the earlier times. Even now I guess some women still are oppressed or fearful as you say.

Mansi,
Women at the top positions in corporate sector too have faced difficult situations.It's not always sexual exploitation but it can be mental too.But what I wanted to say that along with us there are many women ,who watch these serials and are not as fortunate like us to be self sufficient or self -supporting ,for them it might be a great thing.
Women empowerment is just taking baby steps in our country ,sometimes I doubt that too.Atleast we should be happy that what was shown yesterday ,from it those unfortunate ladies who might learn something .
I think you got what I was hinting at.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi,
Women at the top positions in corporate sector too have faced difficult situations.It's not always sexual exploitation but it can be mental too.But what I wanted to say that along with us there are many women ,who watch these serials and are not as fortunate like us to be self sufficient or self -supporting ,for them it might be a great thing.
Women empowerment is just taking baby steps in our country ,sometimes I doubt that too.Atleast we should be happy what was shown yesterday for those unfortunate ladies who might learn something from it.
I think you got at what I was hinting at.

Oh yes, for sure. Something to be learnt from everything, even watching serials!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi ur analysis is as fab as episode 😳 I'm in love with jodha yday n paridhi nailed it by emoting all kinds of expressions 👏 ⭐️ jodha dialogues r perfect n encouraging to me even in name of narishakti where Jo decided to fight bravely n die than to bow down their heads to those leeches 👍🏼
It's all about jodha yday her shock to see bloodshed attire of Jallu n her thoughts that clicked that Jallu wil never die the way Mali told n her determination not to take poison as she is rajvanshi singhni n to fight back... Her confidence that they wil win 😊
Loved each n evry dialogue of Jo n I'm eagerly waiting n excited for today epsiode 😳 I think in yday precap Jo was abt to cut his head but the scene got ended there... I guess Jallu already made heroic entry n I think before Jo sword it wil b Jallu who wil stab Mali 😳
In kanha scene yday it showed JJ r truly soulmates n Jo knows that she can't breathe if anything happens to Jallu n Jallu is stil safe somewer... 😳 in previous episodes of separation track we witnessed same eventhogh distance separated them physically yet their souls r connected... Jallu sleeping on Jo bed says her to cme back as he can't live without her n nxt moment Jo wakes up from dream n says that Jallu can't live without her... Now during war they r seperated physically but they hv soul connection...I really applaud Jo for raising sword against enemies n decided to fight in her tuf preg time 👏
Amidst of all these the dialogues cracked me r rukayya hum Khaas begum hain 🤣 n ghrinit prani of Jo in Mali dream 😆 and Mali saying to rukaiah that her gurror is bigger than jalal sultanat 😆
Now waiting for jalal entry wer Jo n begums gang fighting on one side n Jallu surely wil cme n save his harem 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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#mansi once again i ws overwhelmd by ur analysis ;) really!! u explorate the unseen emotions n thoughts which r to b depictd n u do it so well!! :$ unfrtunately my hindi is fair so cnt absrb the emotions each n evry individual want to us to see...i vry much likd ur statemnt abut the empowermnt n freedom of women in ur family..things r still stagnt fr many but really i bliv more in womens power than men!!! thnks fr this quote n this great analysis!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

My mind is going haywire trying to imagine your scenario!🤣


He himself asked for "istaqbal" and this would have been a most fitting one. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Loved loved loved the episode yesterday. Esp. The fact that jodha didn't sound preachy while trying to motivate the begums. And also that this time the glory is not only jodha's but all the women in the harem who despite not being trained like jodha are willing to take a stand. I realise that this is a fictional war but i do wonder that even as per history akbar gave jodha the command over a huge troop of 12000 soldiers that means somewhere in some battle she must have proven her mettle and shown that she was capable of commanding over soldiers and even the soldiers must have acknowledged her prowess to allow a woman to command over them. Otherwise a man as great n shrewd as akbar would not give that much power to a woman just coz he was in love. Shows how forward thinking both akbar n jodha were for their times and how well they supported each other.
I also was happy that they did not show jodha as proclaiming to win the war but just to hang in there n protect themselves while waiting for akbar to arrive. It would have been a tad too much had they shown jodha winning a war on her own while akbar was still held captive.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi Lovely take ... I thought this whole week il be all rona dona and then war...but never thought cv's wud end up surprising us with fantastic episode...Really episode was too good.. Many may feel less screen space was given to Jalal and showed him weak and all...I feel ekta has done beautiful Job... Jalal didn't lose the war..war is still on.. but instead shenu and abumali took him as thr captive by cheating him...he believed shenu was in danger...any one at his place wud to the same thing...wen he, hamida every one knows that shenu was being used as a pawn to fight against jalal ...shenu is not bad in real just circumstances made her behave like this..we she gets to no jalal is innocent and not involved behind her mothers kidnap then for sure she il change her side from evil to good ...wen jalal saw her injured & tied in forest then not only jalal any tom dick harry wud run to save her... jalal too did the same thing.. its that they cheated him and took him as thr captive... wat wrong did jalal do?? He went to save his sister ...

Coming to yesterdays episode both jodha and harem ladies were trying to save themselves in jalal's absence..again Jo made it clear that they just have to protect themselves till jalal is back..dont no if jalal was ever kept as captive in real.. but again this is ekta's show..here only one language speaks..trp ... Jodha did not save jalal here...they are just trying to protect themselves.. either todarmal and maansingh il help jalal..or jalal himself uses teda method and escapes from Mali's trap and makes heroic entry... yesterday's episode we saw Jodha a wife who believes that no matter wat happens jalal il come back and saves them till then they need to protect themselves... Jo has caught abumali's lie how jalal died and how he begged him for his life... this shows her faith in her husband..even if he dies also he il die like a brave warrior not like a coward.. she knows jalal il either win or die as a warrior..he il never bow his head before any one...

CV's showed it beautifully..wen jodha asked hamida do u think ur son il die like a coward..and to rukku do u think ur childhood friend il die and beg like a coward before this mali...then Jo said I no about my husband he wont die like a coward nor he il bow before a coward like mali and begs for his life..even if my husband dies also he il die like a warrior and takes allah name and then he il die..but not like a coward...for hamida jalal is her son.. for rukku he is a friend..and jodha a lover ,husband ,soul mate..how beautifully this scene was shot...a son friend and a husband...

Even real jodha was given in charge of 12000 cavalry..she fought many wars in jalal's absence...that's wat she is doing now.. she is encouraging harem aldies not to give up specially wen jalal is alive he il come back like a lion at any moment then wats wrong in saving or protecting themselves...she did not save jalal here..just protecting themselves..still people bash jo ... she is a rajvanshi and a princess cum queen of Hindustan... she is fighting against enemies..instead of taking poison and die like a coward better to fight till the last breath of her life.. they cant sit back saying jalal il come and save us specially wen abu mali is right infront of thr khema and trying to loot them at any moment... Many may feel more importance was given to jodha and less screen space to jalal.. I feel its completely wrong..jalal il come back and fight against mali and wins the war..before that shenu too need to realize wat grave mistake she did ...coz of her stupidity how many had to sacrifice thr life in the name of war...

Thank god this whole week rukku did not show her attitude and was humble to jodha specially...just hope she changes for good and remains like this...yesterday even in dream sequence she did not forget to say her fav dialogue..hum BEK hai...I was literally laughing wen I was watching it..funny part was salima and rukku looked good as abumali's captive with those chains..but Jo looked too funny with chains around her neck and in hands... thr also our jo said how dare u touch me leave me... cv's rock...I found that scene too hilarious..

Wen jo making every one realize that jalal is alive and il never die like a coward ..HB was so proud of her daughter in law..and more than HB resham was so proud of jodha..did u notice resham's expressions..she was so proud of jo from the beginning of this track..and glad jodha made maham shut her mouth...ending up taking life is not the solution..only cowards il choose that as best option..but a true fighter il fight till the end..

How beautifully this track was picturised..How jalal was confident that his baagin il fight back..how jo was confident no matter wat jalal il comeback... how much faith these two hav on the other ...

Precap was seetimar precap...I don't know to whistle..otherwise main to seeti bajati rehti...mashallah kya precap... mindblowing precap..pataka precap..finally jo made him to fall at her feet and then attacked him..i am sure like how jalal attacked mali's eye likewise jo il also attack mali which il make mali to remember jo every moment..not only that those days a male at womens feet and losing a war ...a women defeating a man is almost like people treats that person like impotent..here jo made him fall under her feet...Now more than jalal mali will remember jo and wanted to take revenge on her..thats y he il send a huge man to kidnap jo during jashan to take revenge on her.. jalal to atleast behen ke liye use baksh deta ta..yeh to jalal ki baagin..ise sirf uski sher baagh hi sambhal sakta hai..koi aur ko uske saamne jane ki himmat hi nahi.. bediya sherni ke age kaha tikpayegi... now mali il realize wat jodha is..y even the get shehensha is latoo and fida and madly in love with her..y sharif is after jodha... beauty with brain and bravery..a fiery Rajput princess..no one can handle her except shehensha of Hindustan..he was proudly saying about MC..that she il make jalal to bow his head and fall on his knees..now he il realize infront of jodha even MC is nothing...

After this war all halo's and praises to jo..wen jalal comes back hb ,salima everyone il tell him how she was confident that u il comeback how she made Mali fall at her feet and defeated him and his army..Jallu once again il feel happy and feel proud of her and in mid of all this jalal il get to no about jo's preg..sone pe suhaga...cv's are going to treat us with good actionpacked & beautiful episodes till next week..i feel this war track il go till next wed or Thursday.. tomorrow jalal may escape and comes back..Friday all rona dona and hb salima telling story to jalal about jo's faith and bravery.. abumali shouting to take revenge on jodha..shenu il get to no the truth..amer and maansingh entry... and jo's preg...and then final war...war il end only by next week...

I am just waiting to see how jalal il escape from mali clutches and come back like a roaring lion... overall beautiful episode...just waiting for my lion to come back from coconut wig's clutches..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi,
Women at the top positions in corporate sector too have faced difficult situations.It's not always sexual exploitation but it can be mental too.But what I wanted to say that along with us there are many women ,who watch these serials and are not as fortunate like us to be self sufficient or self -supporting ,for them it might be a great thing.
Women empowerment is just taking baby steps in our country ,sometimes I doubt that too.Atleast we should be happy that what was shown yesterday ,from it those unfortunate ladies who might learn something .
I think you got what I was hinting at.

Sorry to butt in but Rashmi, women empowerment will not happen all of a sudden. It takes time and it mainly takes our mindset. Till such time we wait for someone to give us our rights like 33% reservation etc. It doesn't happen by holding banners and screaming slogans. We need to start it from within. Unless a woman made up her mind to set herself free, off course not from the family & society but from mental bond that it is a male dominated society they will not allow me to come up, nothing will happen. Even if a man gives you the opportunity to climb up the ladder, you will think skeptically, why did so, what was his idea behind this help etc. So it is we as women who needs to wakeup from within and without that no organization can get a woman liberation. If it goes to the hands of organizations, it will be a clear case of separation and not liberation.
When I opted for Electrical Engineering, I was the only girl in my entire class and I had 19 boys to share the class. Initially I was a bit taken aback and opted for change in stream and then my principal asked me what was your words when you chose the stream and I promptly replied, I would like to study Engineering Than Secretarial Practice and then he asked me so why I am opting out and I said It may be difficult to study with all the boys and only girl and he said your aim is to study and never alter your aim for some uncalled for reason. It was a difficult situation not just for me but also for my classmates as they had to watch their words and action always but that turned out to be the turning point for me. And added to that that day when I went back home, I just narrated my worries to my parents and my Grand father had come home from village and instead of my father, it was my grandpa who said, if you are confident to keep your head high at all situation and study, no one will stop you from studying and it doesn't matter whether you are the only one girl among the group of 20 or you are with 10 girls and 10 boys. We trust you and it is your responsibility to stay up to that. So go ahead and fulfill your dream to be an engineer. By the time I completed my course, I had lost my Grandpaa but even today, I remember his words and when I opted to send my daughter to Manipal to study, people commented why we have to send her away and she will have to stay in a hostel, instead why not we join her to some Engineering college in Bangalore, so that we can keep an eye on her and all I had to convey is what my father and his father told me when I joined Engineering. That I trust my daughter and she knows her responsibility. If she has to go havoc, she can do that even when she stay with us.

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