The case for a stronger Jalal

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Random Sunday musings again- and again from my phone. Missed you guys. Unfortunately, very busy at work.

But, here are some reflections over the past week:

I am not exactly sure why the CVs believe to show Jodha strong that Jalal has to be weak or why if I want a stronger Jalal, it is assumed I do not like Jodha being strong.

Imagine the following scenario: Jalal fighting bravely with tact and in the warfront using common strategies to overthrow greater numbers, e.g., ropes, traps, etc. Feeling they are losing, MahaC sneaks on the harem to take the women hostage and then the begums defend themselves. Jalal strong saving the day in the warfront, Jodha strong saving the day in the harem. Who would be unhappy in such a scenario? You would still have drama and suspense.

In any case, we could still have Jalal save himself and Jodha save herself and the begums. Let us hope for the best.

But, regardless, I think there is a case to be made to show a stronger Jalal. I enjoyed the lullaby scene with Jodha comforting Jalal- it was human and real. But, that is only one half of Jalal. I would love to see the strong Shehenshah and Jalal as well in focus.

I am not sure why the CVs forget the TRP audience grew to love this show when both our leads were strong. Jodha was shown strong in her self-respect and decisions while Jalal was also strong and was even shown supporting Jodha as with her suicide, Sukanya's wedding, and religious conversion issue.

And let us not blame Jalal's weakness on his new-found dil. First, he has always had a dil. Second, with this dil and love he was able to fight Abul Mali and his team singlehandedly, blind Abul Mali, punished his mother-like Maham Anga, and waged war against Raja Ramachandra. This new found emotional weakness is purely a discovery of the CVs.

In the end of the day, if this was how it was with Jalal needing Jodha to step in every time to save him then I would feel bad for Jodha that she could not find a husband of her equal. But, I don't think that was the case.

I always loved the tarazu - as I felt it represented Jodha and Jalal in their relationship where both brought equal weight to the relationship. The tarazu is always one unit - as are our Jodha-Jalal and Akdha- but it always more pleasing to see it in balance than having one half on top of another.

I like Jodha and Jalal equally and hence, want them shown as equals.

And I hope the CVs finally wake up and show exactly that. Here is hoping for a stronger Jalal joining an already strong Jodha this week!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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divi i have a lot to say here..i can write an essay..will be back tomorrow after work, time to sleep now!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi, I have pasted a link for a book on Ela's thread - preparation for war - page 32 and on Shyamal's thread on dhwani - do read this book - its a story based on Akbar's childhood specifically the period when he was left at Kandahar by Humayun who went to Persia to get help to win Kabul back and ends at Kabul where Kamran used Akbar as the human shield against the canon of Humayun - Now this book is what I would call 'Dramatization' urf 'Natakiya Rupanter' - not this crap that EK is dishing out.

Do read the book Divya. You will love it. and pm me ur response to the book too!!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Unfortunately equality is not left in the show. Honestly jodha remains always strong whereas jalal is getting weaker. For eg during todermal case jodha was wrong but still she stood strongly whereas jalal knew tht todermal cant be guilty still he was not strong enough to at least do sum investigation like spying on shehnaaz maybe by salima before giving the verdict. So except in Ruku's feet pressing case, jodha never goes weak. Whether ur right or wrong u should be strong enough. Noone has issues with jodha nd other begums fighting but in order to show tht jalal is degraded big time. Real jalal was biased towards his relatives but he will never be so stupid to go to a secret place to hide. Not only weak he is also shown a coward. In this show jodha's achievments r shown big time whereas jalal's achievments goes out of the window. Jodha's mirch war promos r evrywhere whereas when jalal become akbar forget promo not even one article came out. In this show in the name of feminism males r degraded. CVs should keep jodha's strongness as a seperate issue not bcoz jalal goes weak.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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same here,, this show need equality...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm

Random Sunday musings again- and again from my phone. Missed you guys. Unfortunately, very busy at work.

But, here are some reflections over the past week:

I am not exactly sure why the CVs believe to show Jodha strong that Jalal has to be weak or why if I want a stronger Jalal, it is assumed I do not like Jodha being strong.

Imagine the following scenario: Jalal fighting bravely with tact and in the warfront using common strategies to overthrow greater numbers, e.g., ropes, traps, etc. Feeling they are losing, MahaC sneaks on the harem to take the women hostage and then the begums defend themselves. Jalal strong saving the day in the warfront, Jodha strong saving the day in the harem. Who would be unhappy in such a scenario? You would still have drama and suspense.

Nobody would be unhappy. But you know as well who would get all the credits at the end of the day and called mahaan even by the victim.

In any case, we could still have Jalal save himself and Jodha save herself and the begums. Let us hope for the best.

That doesn't justify Jalal displaying the shrewdness of Suppandi and walking into aapa's trap and being weepy whiny on the eve of war.

But, regardless, I think there is a case to be made to show a stronger Jalal. I enjoyed the lullaby scene with Jodha comforting Jalal- it was human and real. But, that is only one half of Jalal. I would love to see the strong Shehenshah and Jalal as well in focus.

Errr...Shahenshah. ...who?

I am not sure why the CVs forget the TRP audience grew to love this show when both our leads were strong. Jodha was shown strong in her self-respect and decisions while Jalal was also strong and was even shown supporting Jodha as with her suicide, Sukanya's wedding, and religious conversion issue.

And let us not blame Jalal's weakness on his new-found dil. First, he has always had a dil. Second, with this dil and love he was able to fight Abul Mali and his team singlehandedly, blind Abul Mali, punished his mother-like Maham Anga, and waged war against Raja Ramachandra. This new found emotional weakness is purely a discovery of the CVs.

Divya, please don't pretend to forget 😉...we all know that Jalal was saved from Abul Mali by Jodha's sikka, he punished MA as she harmed Jodha and waged was against Raja Ramachandra as he supported the dacoits who scratched Jodha's hand in the fight.

In the end of the day, if this was how it was with Jalal needing Jodha to step in every time to save him then I would feel bad for Jodha that she could not find a husband of her equal. But, I don't think that was the case.

Isn't he already declared to be blessed with such a nek dil paak saaf shareek-e-hayaat who changed him from a vaishili darinda to insaan. Where is the equality here? Where is the equality when the Emperor is a jobless awara begging for time from the very busy begum.


And I hope the CVs finally wake up and show exactly that. Here is hoping for a stronger Jalal joining an already strong Jodha this week!

High hopes. Even if he does emerge strong we know who will be hailed mahaan.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely post Divyaa. Agree with u, love Jalal and Jodha equally and would love to see them both as equal. I am pretty sure by the end of this war track we are going to see the same.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely post. I too would love to see an equally strong Jalal here. I think the cvs are so fixated upon one particular idea that they just keep circling around that. The Tarazu scene is so symbolic of their relationship. I hope cvs soon cover up their faults.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon

Lovely post Divyaa. Agree with u, love Jalal and Jodha equally and would love to see them both as equal. I am pretty sure by the end of this war track we are going to see the same.

Lovely post Divya.You brought again the positivity which you always bring.
Same here.Both Jodha and Jalal are equal.Two wheels of the cart.If one loosens we can't move.

Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Lovely post Divya.You brought again the positivity which you always bring.
Same here.Both Jodha and Jalal are equal.Two wheels of the cart.If one loosens we can't move.



well said Rashmi.
@bold: loved it

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