Was Jalal a fool? Was he in cahoots with Nigar? Was it all a dream? - Page 7

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Friends, coming back to so many spoilers, 2 promos and precap and Friday episode...here is something else...

I discussed many theories with Mansi... and in the end we both r confused... and so i decided to follow her advice that to trust the zee man abt what he told her...

For us right now, Jalal is captured, and precap suggests that TM brings his war armour to show the queens with the news of Jalal being caught... One promo suggests that Mali and co r torturing Jalal and he is injured badly and here on encampment while other queens r crying, Jo refuses to believe that Jalal is no more...another promo suggests that Harem is attacked, and Jo encourages the women to fight, and we r getting those pic...

So what's the truth... Yest, after the episode, there was a general cry, how CVs dared showing Jalal such a dumb, to trust Nigar and thus getting into her trap... but as I m not ready to believe Jalal was ever a fool, and even Zee man has ensured Mansi that Jalal will surprise all with his Teda gameplans, so how it is possible for Jalal to get captured?

Guys, there r few things, that struck me suddenly...i don't know if it make sences, still I m giving it...

While dividing his army, Jalal made 3 divisions... one was led by him, one was by Atga and one was by Munim khan...while he had Adham's man shahabuddin in his own troop, he put Adham under Atga Khan and Mirza under Munim Khan... Mirza was his own brother, so why he is not chief of any troop, or why he is not in Jalal's own troop... Does that mean, what me and Mansi have always thought? Jalal doubts Mirza? And so Mirza is not near to him to harm him directly...

Same way, Jalal is very well aware abt Adham's strength and ability to fight and win...and still he is under Atga Khan... Not right with Jalal... has Jalal any doubts abt Adham's loyalty?

If we remember, MA met Nigar , same night when Jalal and his Harem reached the encampment... Had Jalal doubting MA , and thus had her followed that night and knows abt her treachery?? And so he is well aware that in war Adham may help Mali indirectly...

Then, the minute Jalal saw Nigar tied up , he freed her and hugged her... agreed, for whole life he craved for an elder brother or sister... But just that one fine day a girl tells him that she is his elder sister, and right heir to throne, and he is ready to accept her words as truth, and give her that right she claims...that too when this kingdom he is now ruling, is won and made by him after fighting so many wars from age of 14...though he is treated as heir after his father, still the kingdom was not given to him readymade, that kingdom was lost to enemies, and he has won it back... So how is it possible that one day someone will lay claim on it, and he will so readily agree to it????

Does that mean , he is really playing a game? With whom? Since when?

And so yest when he freed Nigar, and so readily went with her to that unknown place, so what we got to see is Nigar asking him to follow, and then he finds himself in a dark place , with Nigar attacking him? Something happened in btw these two scenes, we will get to see later as FBs?

Like , while Jalal found Nigar tied, he freed her and she told him the truth abt Mali and MCB double timing with her and using her as a pawn, and she got to know this by chance, and same time Jalal's own Vazir is treating her as a queen and thus backstabbing Jalal, and so Nigar is alert that MA has joined hands with Mali or MCB...

If as I said before, Jalal already has doubts abt Adham and MA, so Nigar's info won't be a shock for him, and so he and Nigar make a plan and thus Jalal is acting as a captive, while Nigar is taking care that he is not killed before rest of his army reaches for his help, and CB is traced...

I m giving this theory, coz there is one question in my mind... Mali, Nigar, MCB , all want Jalal's kingdom... and when he is captured, why they will keep him alive even for a minute, so that he can even try to free himself? Surely they were not such fools? So just like Mansi, even I feel, Nigar and Jalal r together in this , and r just buying time till CB is traced and brought to them safely by TM... And so TM also is with them in this plot... And Jalal knows, Jo won't give up the fight as he very well knows her ability to fight the war, and so he and Nigar carries out this plan, which we get to see as Jalal being captured...

Then there is another thing ... That Surang dug by TM with AK's help... I think Jalal has some clues abt MA kidnapping CB and so this plan of Jalal being caught and TM informing the harem, and that may push MA to get CB to encampment through that Surang, unknown to the fact that she is being watched by TM... And so once Jo will leave to trace Jalal, and by that time CB is traced by TM , and Amer army has reached to Warfield, then Nigar will put Jalal free, and Jalal will fight for ultimate victory... And this Jo - Nigar war news might again be for buying the time for tracing CB...

So finally, when this war track will be over we should get Mali fled, CB found , Mirza and MA exposed , and Jalal to know abt Jo being pregnant...

Is it possible?



Dhiksha predciiton was good..but one thing strikes me was before defeating jalal abumali wont take such risk..right now shenu is his and MC's pawn.. so this must be thr plan to back stab jalal and capture him... wen they had taken jalal as captive then next thing was to take shenu also into custody..she is also a threat to them... so abumali and his soldiers may take both jalal and shenu as captive ..thus shenu il realise jalal was not responsible behind his mothers mystery.. then shenu and jalal il try to escape..here in harem all ladies will try to protect themselves by attacking abumali and his soldiers.. shenu wants to capture all harem ladies and put them behind bars like how her mother was in that surang...but abumali wanted to lootify harem

coming to adham jalal never believes adham... he was not loyal to him...phir bhi something is missing..they il show it on tuesday or wednesday...kuch bhi ho they il clear shenu's misunderstanding before this war..adn shenu il help jalal and later she il be forgiven..if realises her mistake once the war is over then its of no use...jalal has to give justice to thousands who sacrificed thr life in this war just coz of shenu and her stupidity.. and more over jalal is in orange outfit...we had many spoiler out door shooting pics..whr jallu is in suhaagraat black outfit pic and shenu is in royal out fit pic..so somehow jalal il escape and shenu too il realise her mistake and changes her side..then war il take place..abumali phir se baag jayega..after this ladies war jalal il get to no jo's preg..i feel maansingh and amer brothers il help jalal ..thr was a spoiler pic of maansing killing MC soldier from behind ..it was a building whr jalal was kept as captive... jo and ladies il try to protect themselves..and maansingh and amer brothers il help jalal..then they all il fight against abumali and MC and defeats them in the war


MA track il be shown seperately..after this war..they il not put the end to two tracks at a time as JA is famous for dragging... guess after this rukku il do something and gets caught then maham il get caught

CV's had already given a hint to us in the beginning of this war..wen jo was doing shastr puja in jalal's room & singing song..then jalal asked about her prayers..she said ki aap is yudh main kum rakt paat se yudh jeetenge hi nahi balki ki nigar ji ke dil be jeet le...now jalal is abumali's captive.. kum rakt paat. is already acheived...sipayis il die but abumali's..not jalal's..next coz of this captive twist shenu's misunderstanding il be cleared..and then war il take place... jalal il defeat mali...and jodha's three prayers anwered...kum rakt paat,shenu's dil and jalal's victory... end of this track jalal il get a gift from jodha his dream his child...that she is preg of his child...
Edited by Gem12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rak014

Gem! You are rocking!🤗🥳



maine kya kiya hai...ab
Edited by Gem12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gem12



Dhiksha..zindagi ya phir show... har cheez main insaan do tareeke se soch ta hai aur behave karta hai.. pehla bina soche jaane opinion bana leta hai aur durso mai kaamiya nikalta hai aur negative soch ta hai..dusre ko kasoor war nikalta hai ...aur dusra insaan wo hai jo negativity main positivity dund ta hai..buraiyi main achai dund te hai..ghum ko khusiyo main badalne ki koshish karta hai..

tum aur mansi is forum main aise gems ho jo humesha positively soch te hai aur sab ko apni positivity se calm kara dete ho..bus dek ne ki nazariya alag hai..kuch fraction of seconds main nateeje pe ajate hai bina kuch soche samje..is thread main sab kitne ache writers he..apne views express karte hai... once again thk u for such a grt post...was too good..Kuch threads kehti hai jalal show ki USP hai...kuch threads jo ko kehte hai..par humare is thread main jodha akbar ko USP kehte hai...dono equal...koi bhi kum nahi..pehli baar use dil ka hone ka ehsaas hua..aur toda relationships main emotional hogaya..is war ke baad balance karna seekjayega...aur yeh show jodha akbar aur unki love story aur emotioanal and relationship ko dikarahe hai..this show is not akbar the great...pata nahi kab log samjenge ye baat..akbar ke bina jodha nahi..jodha ke bina akbar nahi..dono soul mates...

Gem nice post.you are really a gem .Heera ho Heera.(diamond)
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Arrey sorry! You are dazzling!😆
You just now turned to a IF-dazzler from goldie!
Your reply to diksha was your 2500th post!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rak014

Arrey sorry! You are dazzling!😆
You just now turned to a IF-dazzler from goldie!
Your reply to diksha was your 2500th post!



oh is it...thk u so much dear...pata hi nahi chala..notice hi nahi kiya..kab meri promotion hogayi hai... par kaha sab friends kahi ghum hogaye..
Edited by Gem12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gem12



oh is it...thk u so much dear...pata hi nahi chala..notice hi nahi kiya..kab meri promotion hogayi hai... par kaha sab friends kahi ghum hogaye..

I opened a thread for you!😃😳
Edited by Rak014 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha


Friends , these r again actually random thoughts, nothing to
do with any posts... I m just writing like that...


I can't believe Jalal / Akbar was ever a fool or so much of
a emotional person, we r getting to see... it's a treat to see him like that to
all loyal JA lovers... CVs have now really started to believe all the viewers r
complete dumb, and so be sure, even in future we will be getting more such tracks... let's prepare ourselves for
that...


Now coming to our characters... many of my friends complain to
me, that I always stand by Jo... I never find her wrong and all... So first thing,
Jo is a fictional character, (based on historical Heer Kunwar or whatever name
is in history) on top of that she is lead of the show, and thirdly she is
Ekta's heroine, so she can never be weak, never be wrong, and a perfect
character... but when I have accepted my lead character is fictional and still I
m treating her as real, then I m not going to bash her, coz I have accepted her
as she is , and then myself being a woman, and knowing Ekta's policy abt lead
woman character being always right, so for me Jo is always right, and I ll
stand by her what may happen... And so when I have accepted Jo to be perfect all
the time (trust me accepting it from start , help u in not breaking ur hopes or ur
hearts when u get otherwise) and so my friends, (who complain abt my support to
Jo) for me Jo is always right... And others who hurt her anytime r always wrong...
(simple, isn't it..? my hopes r never broken)


Ok...remains my Jalal... unfortunately, CVs have completely
messed up this character... may be coz, there r so many different versions and
different theories abt real Akbar, that CVs themselves r confused which one to
follow... coz Jalal / Akbar is one of few character in this show, that is now
based but it's directly related to the real history, or let's say it exists in
real history... and so when CVs mess up their Jalal, I bash him or the CVs , coz
then for me I m bashing Ekta's Jalal for messing up real Akbar in my mind...


And when these two leads r messed up to such extent, why
should I expect anything better for any other character ... so over all we r now
supposed to like the completely messed up show based on history and with a
baseline of an epic lovestory we were promised... And whether we like or not,
this is what we will get even in future...so let's enjoy it as we get it...



diksha, though u have accepted Jodha is Ekta's show's heroine,i m also agreeing with u her character has been fictionalized nevertheless i would like to say i believe real Jodha wasn't also far different than this Jodha. A lady who had come frm quite different culture, religion in her in law home then slowly she started to adjust,accept new atmosphere,became favorite to her mother in law,hubby, friendly with another begums of her hubby n eventually 1 of the powerful ladies in mughal empire then definitely in her character there were many nice qualities like politness,bravery,honesty,beauty.
Sometimes cvs butcher Jodha's character unrealistic way but more than Jodha, cvs have slaughtered Jalal's character illogically. He isn't shown how he was largely in history.
Edited by nabiii - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nabiii


diksha, though u have accepted Jodha is Ekta's show's heroine,i m also agreeing with u her character has been fictionalized nevertheless i would like to say i believe real Jodha wasn't also far different than this Jodha. A lady who had come frm quite different culture, religion in her in law home then slowly she started to adjust,accept new atmosphere,became favorite to her mother in law,hubby, friendly with another begums of her hubby n eventually 1 of the powerful ladies in mughal empire then definitely in her character there were many nice qualities like politness,bravery,honesty,beauty.
Sometimes cvs butcher Jodha's character unrealistic way but more than Jodha, cvs have slaughtered Jalal's character illogically. He isn't shown how he was largely in history.



i know Nabi... and that's what i hate... i mean, we can convince ourselves, saying there was no Jodha in real Akbar's life, and this is fictional character and so CVs can write it as they like... but that's not the think where Akbar is concerned... he was real in history... and so when they kill him every time, i just hate them
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Posted: 11 years ago
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thks nabii..whr were u... missed u so much..glad u are back
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gem12



Dhiksha..zindagi ya phir show... har cheez main insaan do tareeke se soch ta hai aur behave karta hai.. pehla bina soche jaane opinion bana leta hai aur durso mai kaamiya nikalta hai aur negative soch ta hai..dusre ko kasoor war nikalta hai ...aur dusra insaan wo hai jo negativity main positivity dund ta hai..buraiyi main achai dund te hai..ghum ko khusiyo main badalne ki koshish karta hai..

tum aur mansi is forum main aise gems ho jo humesha positively soch te hai aur sab ko apni positivity se calm kara dete ho..bus dek ne ki nazariya alag hai..kuch fraction of seconds main nateeje pe ajate hai bina kuch soche samje..is thread main sab kitne ache writers he..apne views express karte hai... once again thk u for such a grt post...was too good..Kuch threads kehti hai jalal show ki USP hai...kuch threads jo ko kehte hai..par humare is thread main jodha akbar ko USP kehte hai...dono equal...koi bhi kum nahi..pehli baar use dil ka hone ka ehsaas hua..aur toda relationships main emotional hogaya..is war ke baad balance karna seekjayega...aur yeh show jodha akbar aur unki love story aur emotioanal and relationship ko dikarahe hai..this show is not akbar the great...pata nahi kab log samjenge ye baat..akbar ke bina jodha nahi..jodha ke bina akbar nahi..dono soul mates...



Thank u Gem...

@red...well said

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