Todarmal's sentence raises a toofan in Jalal and Jodhas mind!

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Friends, I thought yesterday's episode was quite good. When I thought about it, after seeing it for the third time from start to finish, there were four things I noticed that I liked ...

One, every single actor acted well yesterday, without exception. Even the characters we love to hate (like Maham and Mahchuchak and Shehnaaz) did their roles well in a relatively controlled way. As for Zakira, Todarmal, Todarmal's wife, Moti Bai and Hamida ...they too were not OTT in their roles. Todarmal's wife was forceful but never lost her dignity. Hamida was just right for a sage Queen. And coming to Jalal and Jodha, I thought they both were spectacular, especially in the toofan scenes and then their fleeting talks on the windblown terrace.

Two, the movement of events in the episode kept up a good pace - and the cuts between shots were perfect. No shot extended too long and no shot was over-exaggerated. The Director could have overdone the toofan, but he didn't. It was just right to create that right amount of tension in the atmosphere and it did enough to give its ashubh sanket - as it reflected the turmoil in Jalal and Jodha's minds. Even the Kabul shots were over as quickly as they could be - and the direction, sequencing and delivery of the pace of the cuts between shots was wonderful. All in all, it was a great piece of direction and scene to scene editing, and I enjoyed the episode for its overall quality and momentum.

Three, I thought the use of the toofan and the "bhuj gaya diyas" was used nicely yesterday in the serial to give indications of ill-omen and to show Jodha and Jalal that something was terribly amiss with their decisions on the Shehnaaz versus Todarmal issue. Actually speaking, toofans and diyas going off are very cliched items in serials when it comes to giving apshagun sankets. But even though it was a cliche, it felt natural somehow yesterday, and I did not get that over-cinematic feeling when I saw it. Maybe it's because of good direction, good acting and just the right amount of the hint of inauspiciousness that was created. (Actually the first toofan came earlier when Todarmal's wife gave that sensational speech to Jodha that rattled her by the sheer trust that lady had in her husband and the valour she showed. So when later a real toofan came on the heels of the toofan Todarmal's wife had started to fan up in Jodha's mind, the whole situation gathered a head. Additionally when Jodha saw Jalal talk to her in such despondency that he wished he had no "dil" to suffer so much - and then he walked away from Jodha - the third toofan seemed to blow at Jodha, and the full sanket of "something being horribly wrong" came through brilliantly.)

Four, the story is now progressing leaps and bounds, judging by the precap. The first indicator that things were hotting up was the death sentence that Jalal gave to Todarmal to be executed the very next day. That showed the speed at which the story was progressing. Then we had Mahchuchak saying the army will march out to Agra that night itself. And finally we have Shehnaaz telling Maham that she was expecting any moment that the forces of Mahchuchak would arrive for the final takht battle with Jalal. But by far the best sanket of speedy solution of the Shehnaaz unmasking came in the precap, when Jodha, for some reason, slapped Shehnaaz hard. The first time she did this Shehnaaz reacted in her usual childish way. Jodha then shaped up to give her another slap, which Shehnaaz averted by holding off Jodha's hand. But in that moment she lost her childishness and betrayed her true identity. The scales seemed to fall from Jodha's eyes.

When could this precap scene happen? Jaya last night sent me an SMS and I loved her theory of how this "slap" scene may happen. Jaya's idea was that Todarmal may be asked by Atga to name his last wish, and he may say he wants to talk to Shehnaaz one more time. During this talk, Shehnaaz may show her evil adult side which Jodha may clearly notice. So when Shehnaaz returns from that talk with Todarmal, Jodha may resort to exposing her by slapping her, perhaps knowing that Shehnaaz may react to the sudden unexpected slaps in an adult way and betray herself. Immediately after she thus gets betrayed (and before the cannon shots can go off to kill Todarmal), the desperate Shehnaaz knowing she has been exposed by Jodha may hold a knife at Jodha to keep Jalal at bay from coming to Jodha's help.

Two of the many spoilers that have come out last night (from Fuzion, I think) suggest two things: one spoiler suggests that Shehnaz may kidnap Jodha at knife point and asks whether Jalal will be able to save Jodha; and the second spoiler suggests that Jodha and Jalal as a team will investigate this Shehnaaz and in the process of uncovering her hand in the crown poisoning and Todarmal rape charges, they may additionally also uncover the fact that Shehnaaz's mother Chand Begum has been actually kept in incarceration for a long while by Maham. (I personally think Jalal and Jodha will come to know this but as yet Shehnaaz may not know that it was Maham that kidnapped and jailed her mother, and hence when Mahchuchak's army comes, Shehnaaz may fight with that army still thinking Jalal to be her mother's kidnapper.)

I wonder if all this unmasking of Shehnaaz and Shenaaz's knife-giri will happen this week, leading Shehnaaz to become a cornered rat by the end of Friday, so that by Monday we start having the war scenes. Additionally there are one or two spoilers of Salima in war dress and we have also seen Ruq in war dress with bow and arrow etc. So does that mean that the war begins inside the palace, perhaps in the harem to start with? We have no clue, except that we are trying to make sense of all the spoilers and see if they form any picture when they are all seen together as possible directions of this week and the immediate next week.

Things are really poised beautifully by now, and I am also looking forward to the war scenes, because I like seeing Jalal and Jodha in action. I also want to see poor forlorn Zakira out of jail, and I want to see Todarmal stand upright again with his head held high rather than as a stooped figure under the weight of accusation!

For those who'd like a full exposition of what happened yesterday, here it in brief:

The episode opens with Jalal standing near the tarazu, the spot he always goes to when in uljhan. He clearly was in two minds - all the evidence and witnesses seemed to be supporting Shehnaaz in her rape claims against Todarmal, and yet Jalal could not but help believing that Todarmal was too upright a man to ever do something as heinous as molesting Shehnaaz and then casting aspersions that it was she who poisoned the crown. Yesterday, though, at the the tarazu, Jalal did not have the benefit of Jodha's advice for she was neck-deep in the midst of the issue herself, having pleaded on behalf of Shehnaaz. So instead Hamida came to the tarazu to talk to Jalal,and that shows us that when Jodha is not available, the person Jalal turns most to these days is probably Hamida!

Hamida told Jalal that there was only one person who could help him make the right decision and that was the Shahenshah inside him. Whenever that Shahenshah in him had made decisions they had turned out right. "Ask the King in you" said Hamida as she left Jlalal there to think through what she had said. He stood for a long while pondering.

In subsequent scenes we could see that the whole palace was now agog with this issue. Ruq and her harem friends were all discussing it while in Hamida's room, Salima, Hamida, Gulbadan and JijiAnga were also discussing this. "I hope Jalal makes a right decision" said Hamida "I am so worried for him."

The next morning dawned bright and it was the day when Jalal was to deliver his verdict. He was seen in the DEK looking visibly perturbed and very ill at ease. But he did his duty without flaking. He asked the maulvis their opinion. The maulvis said they believed Todarmal to be the culprit for the eye witnesses had all favoured Shehnaaz's version of the story. (Whether the maulvis already had some antipathy towards the Hindu Todarmal and therefore said this, we can't say.) Jalal was asked by the maulvis to decide the ultimate punishment for Todarmal and with a heavy heart Jalal pronounced it ..."Let Todarmal be stood in front of a cannon and shot tomorrow!".

Stunned silence marked the DEK. Jodha was especially uneasy despite having had this dubious victory for Shehnaaz. But most moved of all was Todarmal's wife who with great dignity bore her husband's immense pain on her face and shed but a teardrop or two in public. Jalal left the DEK immediately after the pronouncement as if he could not bear to stand there a moment longer and he never raised his eyes to Todarmal. He merely told Atga to uphold Todarmal's last wishes and left.

Shehnaaz alone had a look of triumph in her eyes, and in that moment, folks, I felt like squeezing her neck myself. I just could not stand that look of evil glee that flitted across her face. How wrong life goes sometimes and yet no one is able to do anything about it! Shehnaaz also had flashbacks of the moment when in the quiet of her room Todarmal had unmasked her truth and threatened to tell all to JalaI, and in that split second she had decided to pre-empt Todarmal with this rape charge to prevent him carrying out his threat!

In the next scene Maham was seen congratulating Shehnaaz for her chaal in fulsome words. She flattered and praised her acumen. But Maham also said "Shehnaaz, it is now better if you leave Agra quietly, for your chaal is sure to come out sooner or later." But Shehnaaz totally stumped Maham with her answer. She said "Oh, no problem about that, I have already summoned Mahchuchak's army and it may already be closing in on Agra, for my final takht battle with Jalal". Maham looked a bit shaken by the speed of Shehnaaz's mind.

At Kabul, Mahchuchak was talking to Fazal about her alliance of convenience with Haider, when Fazal gifted her something in anticipation of her impending victory in war against Jalal. Clearly Mahchuchak intended to pretend to help Shehnaaz but wanted the takht that Jalal occupied for her own self and planned to double cross Shehnaaz at the very end of the war. Fazal gifted her a special mohur she could use in her new capacity as Queen of the Sultanate and Mahchuchak was so inspired that she gave orders for the army (of Haider) to march to Agra that night itself!

In her hojra, Jodha was looking very downcast - for the sentence on Todarmal tasted like mud in her mouth. Moti was saying to Jodha "How brave Todarmal's wife looked in the DEK as the sentence was pronounced" and Jodha agreed she too had seen that. But just then Todarmal's wife barged into the room and with controlled aggression told Jodha "What has happened isn't right. You've known Shehnaaz only for a little while, but I've known my husband for a really long time. I know he would not have done all this. You are unable to see through Shehnaaz's chaal. But when you get to know the truth it will be too late and you will rue it all your life that an innocent was shot down by a cannon by your acts of complicity with Shehnaaz! All I ask is that I can be present at the execution of my husband tomorrow so that I can see him go to his end as the upright and honest man he always was, and I can be proud of him in his last moments" Jodha was rattled beyond measure by these words. What a woman this lady was, and what complete faith in her husband, and what powerful parting words those were where she said she wanted to witness the end of that great man as his proud wife!

In jail poor Zakira was also shell-shocked to see Todarmal returning there in chains. He had gone from his previous visit promising the exposure of Shehnaaz. "She has absolved herself of the crown poisoning and also implicated me in a rape charge" he told Zakira, "but my real worry is now not for myself, but for Jalal's safety!" Zakira put her hand to her mouth in utter disbelief!

And then came the real signs of turmoil reaching a crescendo. A sudden unexpected toofan hit the palace, rattling the window panes and blowing gusts of air through the rooms of the palace. The skies were growing dark and ominous and the toofan threatened to carry away everything in its wake. In their respective hojras Jodha and Jalal felt it to be a very ill-omen, and somehow their unease about the "horribly wrong decision they may have made" started troubling their souls. In Jodha's hojra, twice the eternal diya placed before Kanha went off. It jjust wouldn't flicker on. Jodha was alarmed at this sanket of apshagun. Meanwhile Jalal was thinking "Here comes the storm, and I fear that after that will be that eerie silence in which my decisions will starkly stand before me, taunting me that I had been totally wrong. I feel it in my bones, that Todarmal could not have done this, but what could I do before all these witnesses testifying against him?"

Jodha and Jalal walked towards each other on the terrace till they met midway between their hojras. "You should not have come out in this weather" Jodha tried to tell Jalal, but his mind was in a vexatious place. "I hope you are happy, Jodha Begum" he said, "for I am not. How I wish I had no "dil" and I was back in my old ruthless days when I could feel nothing. I am unable to bear these feelings in me now, racking me about the big mistake I seem to be making." And with that he just turned away from Jodha and walked away, leaving her alone to face the relentless toofan in her own heart.

In the precap, we see an entirely different Jodha. She is so determined that she is shooting daggers at Shehnaaz even just looking at her. She raises her hand and slaps Shehnaaz on her cheek with a loud rap. Shehnaaz immediately reverts to her childish self, asking what she had done. But the fiery Jodha then shapes for a second resounding slap when Shehnaaz's face drops all childishness and reveals its evil quality as she holds back Jodha's hand. In that moment of revelation Jodha sees Shehnaaz for who she really is!

My comments on this episode:

There's a beautiful quote by Voltaire that says: "It is better to risk saving a guilty person than to condemn an innocent one." There's another quotation that even more poignant by Cassandra Clare : "No one blames me, but that doesn't matter when I blame myself."

This whole episode yesterday made me think of a King's life when so much is at stake on his decisions. A mistake here and there can be so costly that the King could easily lose his peaceful sleep for the rest of his life. Jodha and Jalal here, in this story, get a chance to change their decisions while there is still time, and we know that the decision on Todarmal is sure to be reversed when the truth about Shehnaaz comes out just in the nick of time. But what of those countless decisions, small and big, that someone in Jalal's position has to take every day, that can make or break lives, grow or erase faith in his judgment, or give him personal peace or eternal restlessness?

I think this story is now nicely poised for us to really feel the feelings of a King. It can't be easy being the one man the whole kingdom depends on to make the right decisions all the time every time. And for Jodha it cannot be easy too, for unlike other Queens who normally stay away from such cases of right and wrong, Jodha has a tendency to try and be in the thick of things, supporting the underdog ... and she is yet to realise that sometimes the underdog is actually an undeserving recipient of her largesse.

The beautiful part of yesterday's episode for me is that not just one of them, but both of them - Jodha and Jalal - are shown independently already having misgivings about the decision against Todarmal. Thus we cannot afterwards feel bad that one of them was callous and the other one had to convince the first one to see the wrongness of the decision. I am so glad that the Creatives showed that neither Jodha nor Jalal was privately happy. Both were in the throes of guilt and doubt and the general atmospherics of the toofan were adding to their sense of imminent moments of deep remorse. Later they came together to share their private feelings, but ended up feeling even more miserable together.

I would have hated it if Jodha were shown so thoroughly sure of herself and Jalal alone was shown in guilt and unhappiness, which could have easily been the natural follow up of the great "Nari Shakti" dialogues yesterday of Jodha. Thankfully that mega episode and its belligerent display of Jodha was forgotten fast and we had a Jodha who herself was questioning why her own mind was so anguished when she knew she had supported a girl incapable of arguing her own case.

There is another angle to this whole rape charge and its sentence that strikes me. It's the relative behaviours of Todarmal and Shehnaaz. Here again I am reminded of a quote by Criss Jami that seems so apt : "In an extroverted society, the difference between an introvert and an extrovert is that an introvert is often unconsciously deemed guilty until proven innocent."

I keep thinking "Was it Todarmal's nature to be self-effacing and introverted and not defend himself more vociferously? Was it Shehnaaz's pushy nature to be more aggressive even in the guise of childishness? What made even the witnesses see a "poor sad Shehnaaz" who was actually the one making all the moves as agressor ... while they saw the "following predatory Todarmal" wrongly as the aggressor and not the victim? Was it that women naturally are assumed to be more introverted and helpless and men seen as more extravert and agrressive - and hence the benefit of doubt goes always to the woman in such cases of molestation?"

I am finding myself wondering if Todarmal will - after this near brush with death - ever see that his natural reticence, his natural introvertedness, will always be a handicap - because the people that say less to defend themselves could easily be mistaken for guilty. How many times Todarmal got the chance to explain himself and yet how many times he went away without trying to explain what he was doing. He said it was all because he wanted proof to nail the culprit with and couln't be open till he had caught the culprit red-handed. But should he not have seen that his self-restraint could be read as guilt?

I am also sure that Shehnaaz is going to be due for some harsh lessons. Her extravertedness, no matter how well couched under a disguise of childish exuberance or childish vehemence, is going to be punctured by the truth when it hits her. All this fracas has come about from the blind belief she has in her premise that Jalal is hiding her mother and withholding her inheritance. From there comes aggression against Jalal, the attempt to poison him, the unmasking of her by Todarmal and the subsequent false charge against Todarmal resulting in a unfair death before her very eyes. When she sees that her original prejudice against Jalal was all built on false premises what is to happen to the extravertedness that makes her currently look less guilty at this time, but may eventually completely desert her?

I think four people are going to get lessons from this whole situation and it will be interesting to see if they learn these lessons or continue being what they are.

Jalal needs to follow his heart more and not less. The "dil" he says he should not have had should be heard more and he has to act with even more dil even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. He will learn when it is appropriate to do that, and he will not always decide by his mind overruling his heart. In this case his heart was right, and his mind should not have been allowed to stomp out his heart. His heart was not his enemy or troublemaker - it was his guide to being a better and fairer decision maker.

Jodha will have to learn that all decisions from the heart are not the right ones, for the heart can be led astray by too much overload in favour of the seemingly "helpless". She has to learn that even the so-called "helpless" ones don't automatically deserve help until the mind operates on their case and judges if that helplessness is genuine or not. Jodha is too quick to favour her heart and needs to let the mind apply some brakes now and then before she runs to the defence of the seemingly needy.

Todarmal has to learn that silence is not always golden and it can be mistaken for guilt. He has to be as forthright in his speech and as self-protective as he is upright in his integrity. All the good in you can be wasted if you cannot defend the good in you when it's needed and do so with combativeness. Despite the evidence to the contrary it could have helped a lot if there was more conviction in Todarmal's voice - not just with Jalal, but in the open court.

And Shehnaaz has to realise that being too arrogantly sure of yourself and then acting blindly and even diabolically to defend that belief, without any application of cautious thought of the situation, is terribly counterproductive. She can not only lose ground on the issue at hand but she can be so set back in life that she can never ever recover ground again.

Anyway, all this is just my own soul-searching on behalf of the four key players in this issue. Let's see how many of them introspect or change after the storm has blown over. I sure want at least Jodha and Jalal to change, even if Todarmal and Shehnaaz won't.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Loved the green parts of ur analysis.
I agree with ur four lessons for respecitive key players. All four of them needs to learn that. I want Jodha and Jalal to learn their lessons from this incident more than other two. I hope at least this time Jodha learns her lesson and also not trust people easily and forgive them easily and learn to correct her mistake and not repeat it. Jalal needs to be a King and investigate properly before rushing to punishment.

Oh ya, one more thing: Few people who are comparing Ruq supporting Benazir (Who came to kill Jalal) and Jodha supporting Shehnaaz (WHo is her to kill Jalal too) needs to understand that yes ruq and jodha both unaware of Benazir and Shehanaaz' identitly, repsectively. But, there is A BIG difference,Ruq supported Benazir to insult Jodha and thought that getting Jalal married to Benazir will lower Jodha's status and distract Jalal from Jodha. Here, in shehnaaz case, Jodha is supporting her because she thinks she was molested not to insult ruq or something. Yes, Jodha is wrong but you cannot compare her with ruq supporting benazir, The INTENTION in both cases were/are different.
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Nice take Mansi..hru now???... I was not in town for almost a week and yet to catch up with last weeks episodes... I feel all four are right and wrong too... I am just waiting this shenu's track to get over..it getting on my nerves

Jalal: He cannot take decisions based on witness..he should think smartly and probably cud hav used teda method to find the real culprit..specially wen he knows that todramal is not the culprit..being a king he failed big time..he should hav used teda method like fixing shuenu's marriage with todarmal then in shock shenu herself m8 blurt out the truth or wud hv done something to get rid of marriage and m8 get caught...death is not the r8 punishement for everything...jab pata hai TM is innocent then death sentence dekar feel karne se koi phayida nahi..specially after knowing the culprit is shenu and letting her free jalal failed big time as a king..

Jodha: she cannot be always right...need to look at the other side of the coin too..what if todramal was right...y the whole mad house and jo failed to think one logic that shenu was taking shelter in todarmal ashram in Mathura.. if he wanted to molest her he can very well molest her thr itself..wat was the necessity for him to chase her in the palace and entering in the harem and then to molest her..even failed to see if todarmal tried to rape her, is he mad to stay back in the palace...if he was the culprit in real he wud hv fled from mad house on that night itself..instead he is trying to prove shenu as culprit...I am glad finally they are showing jo too is a human ,can make mistakes too..this incident will teach her gud lesson that she cannot believe anyone blindly ... not all are good like her..people are very selfish and ready to backstab them at any moment...she is thinking only one point shenu is mad and TM tried to molest her..but failed to see the truth in todarmal ...specially after knowing that rajvanshi's never attacks from behind...or never attack females.

Todarmal:no matter wat happens he cant keep everything to himself..even after getting many chances he failed to utilize it..he cud hv informed this to jalal or atga...he too il learn gud lesson from this incident..he did the same mistake wat jo did it in sujamal's track..trying to solve everything by themselves and finding for proof's inturn il put them in trouble..

Shenu: I really feel bad for this girl...she is not bad...but she is also damm adamant like jo and not ready to look at the other side of the coin..when jalal was born after her then how jalal il be held responsible behind her mother's kidnap...the day she il learn the truth that day she Il repent for hurting her own family and brother and every one specially TM who saved her mother and her honour and treated her mother with dignity ...

Now after seeing the precap sure thr il be a war bet shenu and jo...wen jo can fight with 20 to 30 spiahi's and with jalal then y she failed and became a captive and in shenu's custody... now again rukku il tanamarofy that jo was responsible for this ..shenu is here coz of her and all these problems are coz of her...just hope jalal stands beside jo ..if he doesn't supp jo then rukku il dominate her and just hate to see rukku gloating..

Mansi did u see salima too in war dress..whr and when..coz I had seen only rukku's pic..not salima's... we saw everyone ..but not Jo in war dress..

I am more worried about jalal and rukku now...what if jalal gets angry on Jo coz of her shenu is here..and rukku il tanamarofy her..

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Hi Mansi,
Will respond later in the as it is month beginning and will have to concentrate more on month end & month beginning reports 😊
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Hi Mansi,
Splendid take.. I loved your take as much I liked yesterdays episode as you correctly mentioned that everything clicked yesterday..Good acting which was complimented by wonderful screnplay and right dialogues as well. How well you have written that Jodha has to learn that all decisions taken from heart may not be correct.

What I failed to understand is why did not Jodha and Jalal learn from their previous experiences.. Especially Jalal.. even in Ruks MC case when Jodha and her brothers were charged .. they could not prove their innocence for th simple fact that they were "Nazarband".How can they prove their innocence then? Now also How can Todarmal prove his innocence when you keep him under house arrest? When they are not allowed to meet anyone.Why does not Jodha introspect ?.. Jalal and Jodha fail to understand this point that even if a person cannot prove his innocence ..does not mean he is guilty..

One more question arises..If Jalal had 100% trust in Todarmal.. why did not he give him some grace time to prove his innocence?And secondly, but most importantly when Todarmal says that he knows that Shehnaaz is a spy or is the one who tried to Kill Jalal why did not Jalal ask Atgah or anyone else to keep a watch on her every moment because even she was a suspect.. though again this was not proven.. but this again could not have been over ruled.

For once I liked Rukaiya yesterday when she was defending Todarmal.!!

Mansi, what I feel is Shehnaaz will use Jodha to get out of the palace because once she is out.. She knows she has Mahachuchaks army waiting for her and then she will attack.. Jodha and Jalal wil not have time to investigate the whole issue ..I think only after Jodha and team defeat Shehnaaz and make her a bandhi .. this issue will be sorted out..but first I think they will go on a war.. Jo will be kidnapped at knife point just so that Shehnaaz escapes successfully but Jo will of course free herself in nick of time.. Just see the parallel they are drawing between Ben track .. Ben held Ruks at knife point to escape ..here Shenu will use Jo to escape ...leaving Jalal distraught.. What a pity .. every time they make Akbar the great.. look like Akbar the Dumb..!! Why CVS ..Why.. . !!
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Hi Mansi,
Nice and really beautiful post.You get used to this line now, as I am your fan No.1.
1)You brought up very beautiful point about King's life that it is not easy.It has it's side effects.Here today,as a man ,Jalal knew that TM was innocent but as a king he had to take decision otherwise . Yes,which king is saved from these disadvantages of his position.Even Lord Ram wasn't spared.He knew his wife was pure but he had to give respect to the talks of his subjects who were doubting her virtuousness and he had to order Sita's agnipariksha. For him ,his dharma as king was important .
2) You also said that TM should have been more vocal .Even I agree with you.In marathi,we say that for a seller who doesn't speak ,no body will buy his gold but for a seller who speaks ,everybody will buy his sand also.So we have to speak out at right time.
3)You said that Jalal should follow his heart.Shall we say that he should follow his conscience.Our conscience is always right.Mahatma Gandhi has said,"There is higher court than the courts of justice and that is the court of conscience.It supercedes all other courts."Even Einstein said that never do anything against conscience.The same lesson applies to Jodha too.
4)For Jodha the biggest lesson is ,to be careful while trusting somebody.Bcoz for now ,somebody is angel to you but in future he or she might even turn out devil .
5)The highlight scene was TM's wife and Jodha's interaction.TM's wife didn't beg for mercy from Jodha but she spoke out her mind without any fear.New lesson Jodha learned was that Rajvanshi "Aan Ban Shaan" was not her sole proprietary.Even TM and his wife have it.


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Amazing anqlysis...in terms of content last night episode wz nice but the best wz the precap...
I think TM as his last wish might ask to meet jodha n he might warn her m jodha might listen to him cz now she is in a different mindset n just to get to the bottom of all this she might confront shehnaz on her own n get to know her real face...thn weight see shehnaz taking jodha as a hostage to get out of the palace bt jodha will save herself n dere wud ne a fight btwn the 2...
I hope after this we get sm close moment of jalal n jodha without interruption..really wonder why they r always interrupted??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Hi Mansi,

Splendid take.. I loved your take as much I liked yesterdays episode as you correctly mentioned that everything clicked yesterday..Good acting which was complimented by wonderful screnplay and right dialogues as well. How well you have written that Jodha has to learn that all decisions taken from heart may not be correct.

What I failed to understand is why did not Jodha and Jalal learn from their previous experiences.. Especially Jalal.. even in Ruks MC case when Jodha and her brothers were charged .. they could not prove their innocence for th simple fact that they were "Nazarband".How can they prove their innocence then? Now also How can Todarmal prove his innocence when you keep him under house arrest? When they are not allowed to meet anyone.Why does not Jodha introspect ?.. Jalal and Jodha fail to understand this point that even if a person cannot prove his innocence ..does not mean he is guilty..

One more question arises..If Jalal had 100% trust in Todarmal.. why did not he give him some grace time to prove his innocence?And secondly, but most importantly when Todarmal says that he knows that Shehnaaz is a spy or is the one who tried to Kill Jalal why did not Jalal ask Atgah or anyone else to keep a watch on her every moment because even she was a suspect.. though again this was not proven.. but this again could not have been over ruled.

For once I liked Rukaiya yesterday when she was defending Todarmal.!!

Mansi, what I feel is Shehnaaz will use Jodha to get out of the palace because once she is out.. She knows she has Mahachuchaks army waiting for her and then she will attack.. Jodha and Jalal wil not have time to investigate the whole issue ..I think only after Jodha and team defeat Shehnaaz and make her a bandhi .. this issue will be sorted out..but first I think they will go on a war.. Jo will be kidnapped at knife point just so that Shehnaaz escapes successfully but Jo will of course free herself in nick of time.. Just see the parallel they are drawing between Ben track .. Ben held Ruks at knife point to escape ..here Shenu will use Jo to escape ...leaving Jalal distraught.. What a pity .. every time they make Akbar the great.. look like Akbar the Dumb..!! Why CVS ..Why.. . !!

Neesha, I loved how you brought out the whole issue of Ruq's MC.
I still fail to see the hurry to punish TM based on half baked evidence. Also, why only investigate TM based on Shehnaaz's allegation. Why not investigate Shehnaaz based on TM's allegations? why was she not tailed? Why not take a second opinion from a different Hakim?
I think it was fair to buy some time and make Shehnaaz also nazarband saying I want to investigate about you, since I(I am the king of Hindustaan and I can do what I want) suspect your intentions. The 'I' here is no ordinary I...its the king!
Also if Shehnaaz escapes with Jo, Jo will loose credibility as a good enough sipahi...Shehnaaz looks physically weaker and is not fed the pista badam from Kabul that Mirza hakim had gifted Jalal...
Now if anyone appreciates Jo and her hunars linked to this incident, I'd feel very let down.
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Mansi, A very good writeup as usual. But I refuse to sympathise with Jalal. If he has an iota of doubt, he must have bought some time. He need not have declared the verdict so soon
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mansi this track sucks and it cannot be deemed as a lesson taught or learnt coz this just shows last so many tracks has failed to do so and they tend to make the same mistakes..yes they are humans but they also are the rulers..how can you sentence a man to death you are convinced is innocent??? what kind of justice is this...he is the Emperor the final decision lies with him and if zakira is kept alive so that the root of the matter is reached inspite of being accused of trying to plot murder against the Emperor...then TM deserved much more respect that that...

reposting what i wrote in divya's thread

...jalal and jodha are not novice teenagers anymore..the past one year has been a bucket full of harsh and hard core lessons for both of them and even after that if a person refuses to learn ...they are to be completely blamed and as Shyamala has put it..drown themself in chullu bhar paani

let us see exactly what happened...both jalal and jodha saw shehnaaz battered hurt and she blamed TM...jodha took shehnaaz's side and jalal believed TM

so what happens next...jodha fought tooht and nail for something in which she believed...she had faith that she was right and she stood up and fought

now what does jalal do...brace urself..he drags himself and his aching heart to the tarazu and laments on the heart,feelings,moon,sun and the entire solar system and today some more...and icing on the cake he goes one step more and sentences the man to death within a day ..the one whom he had belief was innocent...

jodha is a lot of things...but the one thing that makes you admire her even if you want to whack her is her determination and strength...the same we saw in benazir track the point at which jala was furious at her...even then she did not move an inch from what she set out to do...

if jalal had to praise any hunar ..it was this..and this is what he should have learnt from her...stand for what you believe...stand strong even if a storm comes...do not waver...

TM is the man who saved his life...does even that not hold??

what should have Jalal done?

after his talk with HB the next day in DEK walks in a determined Emperor...he takes his seat and the accused and the victim are summoned...he takes opinion from the maulvis and then he speaks

"i have heard both the sides of this case and the issue is grave ,the sentence of which is nothing less than death...every circumstantial evidence speaks against TM...and based on evidence it is proved shenaaz is speaking the truth...but...i have learnt from my experience that everything that is seen is not the truth and everything that is heard is not the fact...hence i will be handling this case till my doubts are cleared...untill then TM will be imprisoned and will await my final verdict exactly seven days after today...till then this case is adjourned ..."

without waiiting to see or hear any reaction ..he gets up and walks out of the DEK issuing atgah khan to meet him in private...

and what jodha should have done

when she decided to advocate shehnaaz ..she should have walked over to TM and with utmost respect folded her hands and said...that she is ever thankful for everything he has done for them and her lifelong gratitude shall remain with him for saving ehr husband;s life...today it is her misfortune that she has to take a stand where he is on the other side...the case has been put forth in DEK and she shall put forward shehnaaz voice and her accusation based on the evidence provided...she apologizes if she crosses her maryada with him and then with calm and composure put forward all her points

jodha believing shenu is not unexpected or wrong..in her place if i was there i would have done the same..even today when a woman points a finger at the man for man handling her ..99% believe the woman and only 1% believe that man and that too only his family...this is the first and second thought...it always is the last thought that just maybe the man is innocent and even then how many of us have the courage to voice it out without any evidence and how many will believe that the woman is lying ,she shamed herself in public to take revenge??? and what jodha feels for shenu is not trust or faith but sympathy not only coz she is awoman but she is a mentally challenged woman with the emotional growth of a 5 yr old...this is how jodha knows her and this is how she treats her...so when she sees her abused her maternal instincts tend to rise and then you become emotionally blind to anything other than your child alone and this obsession to protect her at whatever cost...the first and second thought ..i had just hoped that her last thought would be that the man who gave her shelter and respect and many other woman in his ashram ,saved her husband's life could be innocent...

why do you need a bhujtha hua diya to tell you what is right and wrong..God gave man a conscious for that...this is where she majorly disappointed me ...and as for her manners in the court...i never had any hopes on that front from episode one...EK and her team had made a mockery of rajputana aan baan and shaan from day one so ..DEK ninja attack was no major shocker for me...humility ,mildness and conducting oneself with class never feature on the list of any EK heroine be it 16th or 21st century...rajputana women were and are the epitome of grace and royal princesses are all that and more..their true hunar...so no expectation on that front from a EK show...

the other major thing ,jodha was accused and on the verge of being killed by jalal in mc track..there evidence was stacked against her ...hence she knows that it can be manipulated ,hence he knows that it can be manipulated

in benazir track inspite of knowing she is a vishkanya all evidnece supported her innocence...once again both learnt that evidences can be manipulated

in MA track she provided witnesses ,in ruqaiyya FP she threatened the hakim..hence they both know witness can be manipulated

so did they learn anything???sadly no...and even after this will they learn??no

and yes why jalal can never have a plan B..coz then that would take away the chance of showing jodha's heroism...

i am all for naaari shakti and support to each other..but i vehemently oppose the demeaning of a man to uphold any naari power...naari shakti for me was when todarmal's wife stood rock solid for her husband whom she has faith in like a rock...that was the rajputana wife in action ...

after giving him the title of Akbar .within a week you show him in such a weak state with no sense of action...this is nothing but their arrogance that they can get away with anything as long as numbers pour in...EK and her team should be ashamed of the mockery they have made of an Emperor and his queen ...

btw where was SB with her wisdom when both jodha and jala needed it the most and what is the use of discussing the pros and cons of the case over tea if you do not have the guts to stand up and fight the injustice...ruqaiyya did that in mc track but now i have no hopes from her as well...hence it makes no difference what she thinks of this if she cannot act on it...so the scene made no sense to me

and coming to todarmal jee...he is finally suffering from Agraism...a deadly disorder that renders one into an utter fool capable of being responsible for your own folly

he suspects shehnaaz..very good
then he stalks her ...very good
then he enusres that every tom dick harry and their eve see him following a woman ...very very bad
then he confronts the suspect and pours out in detail the itinerary for the next day ...subhan allah
and then he gets trapped and punished and all he can whine is jalal's life is in danger while waiting for the top to udhao him...masha allah

seriously toddy...how does all this lead to saving jalal and capturing shehnaaz...getting urself killed is going to help whom?? 🤔

and this is my venting out finally...😆😆

PS: do not raise your hopes on the precap..it maybe simply that jodha is swatting a mosquito on shehnaaz's cheek and may later apply lep ..remember precaps and promos are always misleading

also we saw naari shkati kapoor in action while she made the little boy hubby tremble in his frock...poor guy puppy eyeing his new daughters...kya se kya ho gaya 😆

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