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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Khushi---


Strongly disagree. The film JA has a strong Jalal who goes on to become Akbar...Jo is his support thruout...it is the right blend of romance & historical drama...

Ekta's Akbar is totally weak...almost fictional...


The movie was for 3 hours in contrast to a serial which lasts for years. And never forget that the movie had a terrible opening despite boasting a stellar cast of Hrithik and Aishwarya. It was word of mouth praise about the romance in the movie that saved it ultimately but the poor opening still made a dent in the collections.

That pathetic opening was another indication that people simply don't care about history, no matter how great the cast.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shiningways2407


there was a serila ''AKBAR THE GREAT'' where focus was Akbar.
As for MP show ,then the actor playing Akbar said that he had read abt Akbar n that Akbar was great person but since in his show MP is hero thats y Akbar is being shown in negative aspect.so thats the fault of makers of MP ,our show is better in that aspect as in oiur show MP is not made villain kinda warrior.


And know what, that Akbar the great serial also had all the familiar drama that we see here. That serial anyway is a poor example as it sank like a stone at the ratings.

In the latest Ormax survey, Rajat's Akbar does not make it to the Top 5 list of fictional characters but Maharana Pratap does. And remember the MP serial has a rating only 1/3 of JA. Of course this is not definitive but is suggestive that there is not universal acclaim for Akbar.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas


The movie was for 3 hours in contrast to a serial which lasts for years. And never forget that the movie had a terrible opening despite boasting a stellar cast of Hrithik and Aishwarya. It was word of mouth praise about the romance in the movie that saved it ultimately but the poor opening still made a dent in the collections.

That pathetic opening was another indication that people simply don't care about history, no matter how great the cast.

Very well said👍🏼.Ekta's version of JA is far better than that boring 3 hrs movie.😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mandy, Hope you are feeling well after the surgery.

We have discussed this topic in the past- and while I agree Jodha is shown as the Idea/ source behind Jalal's ideas - Jalal always was also shown as investigating on his own and it is his guts and vision to execute the change.

And could Jodha have been so influential if she had married anyone else? It is because Jalal was an effective listener she was influential- and Jalal listens to everyone's views.

I do not think they are saying Jalal would not have been great without Jodha- she was just an influence.

I still remember- in the tasneem case- Jodha had just wanted to solve Tasneem's problem and asked why he changed the law. Jalal explained what he saw with little girls. He later also consulted with Atgah. But in the end of the day it was Jalal's vision.

On Shehnaaz- Jalal would not have fought a woman. Now why he wouldn't have punished Shehnaaz or solved the issue instead of settling for a duel is all for drama purposes

On the coin- it was not shown to be Jodha's idea. He had gifted her the coin he saw in her room. We will need to see what beautiful idea he was referring to the precap.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas


And know what, that Akbar the great serial also had all the familiar drama that we see here. That serial anyway is a poor example as it sank like a stone at the ratings.

In the latest Ormax survey, Rajat's Akbar does not make it to the Top 5 list of fictional characters but Maharana Pratap does. And remember the MP serial has a rating only 1/3 of JA. Of course this is not definitive but is suggestive that there is not universal acclaim for Akbar.

its only once that akbar didnt come in top 5 list (else it was always there)n MP came for 1st time. So give some better example. 1-2 baar to DABH v no 1 nai tha that doesnt mean that ppl r not liking that show. N how can u decide that ppl r liking MP only becoz of Abkar is being shown negative.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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So as per many comments here it seems tht rajat tokas dont have any contributions in the show's success why bcoz he is not in the top 5 list. Unfortunately people r not understanding our point of view. We want jalal's talents to be highlighted as well. C'mmon guys is it a big crime if we want to see jalal's bravery as well? Wht akbar fanatics? Asking for equality for both the characters is a big crime? The show is about both nd TRPs was also very high when both were shown equal. So its a wrong concept tht strong jalal cant bring TRPs or jalal is not responsible for TRPs. Nd yes jalal is not at top 5 bcoz noone wants to see a weak akbar. Nd if thts the measure of rajat's contribution then honestly I dont have anything else to say.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnirony

So as per many comments here it seems tht rajat tokas dont have any contributions in the show's success why bcoz he is not in the top 5 list. Unfortunately people r not understanding our point of view. We want jalal's talents to be highlighted as well. C'mmon guys is it a big crime if we want to see jalal's bravery as well? Wht akbar fanatics? Asking for equality for both the characters is a big crime? The show is about both nd TRPs was also very high when both were shown equal. So its a wrong concept tht strong jalal cant bring TRPs or jalal is not responsible for TRPs. Nd yes jalal is not at top 5 bcoz noone wants to see a weak akbar. Nd if thts the measure of rajat's contribution then honestly I dont have anything else to say.

Why are people saying Jalal is not popular than Jodha? And how is Ormax top 5 fictional character decided? I am sure the awards speak for itself and how popular Rajat's Jalal is, I really do not see that the reaso for Jodha's sword fight is because she is more popular, they will show it with a reason and also he would not prefer to fight his sister.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnirony

So as per many comments here it seems tht rajat tokas dont have any contributions in the show's success why bcoz he is not in the top 5 list. Unfortunately people r not understanding our point of view. We want jalal's talents to be highlighted as well. C'mmon guys is it a big crime if we want to see jalal's bravery as well? Wht akbar fanatics? Asking for equality for both the characters is a big crime? The show is about both nd TRPs was also very high when both were shown equal. So its a wrong concept tht strong jalal cant bring TRPs or jalal is not responsible for TRPs. Nd yes jalal is not at top 5 bcoz noone wants to see a weak akbar. Nd if thts the measure of rajat's contribution then honestly I dont have anything else to say.


sry to interfere and very well said and here the point discussed is to show rt's talent only.There is no need to comparision between the leads and who is the pulling factor for TRPs.This show is on top of the TRP's b'coz of sme intersting tracks and story line and not only b'coz of jodha's craze.It's my pov.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Simple. Balaji has always thrived on heroine mahaanta formula. It is beyond them to glorify the hero. So what if he is Akbar the Great.

If they make a serial on Mahatma Gandhi too, Kasturba ji will get all the credits. It would be she who would have suggested the very concept of non-violence to him, given him the idea of Dandi March, inspired him as his antaratma when he was thrown out of the train.

If Balaji makes a show on Ashoka, it would again be his wife, whose name too many of us wouldn't know who inspired him into Budhism and gave him a big bhaashan on the value of life and evils of war after Kalinga and given him the idea to plant trees and spread peace.

If Balaji makes a show on Gautam Budhdha too credits for his greatness and glory will go to his wife.


Great, you have so well told what we can expecte if these serials were made
I would prefer Sagar arts doing Akbar the great rather than this JA crap in name of a love story that itself is so dubious and all credit of one man's vision and braveness given to one wife
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

Why are people saying Jalal is not popular than Jodha? And how is Ormax top 5 fictional character decided? I am sure the awards speak for itself and how popular Rajat's Jalal is, I really do not see that the reaso for Jodha's sword fight is because she is more popular, they will show it with a reason and also he would not prefer to fight his sister.

I do not understand this popularity chart at all and do not care
And in history we know Jodha because she was Akbar's wife not vice versa who cares who jodha is if she is not Akbar the Great's wife?
Till JA movie i and majoity audience did not even know Akbar had one wife called Jodha and he loved her they had a love story(in mughal-e-azam nothing like that shown or hinted) etc.
I only know Nur Jahan and Jahanara and Mumtaz mahal(for taj mahal only) from mughals as great ladies who ruled equal to their husband or fathers and brothers. None of the other women were great in mughals or known to anyone till these movies, serials started. This serial may last 3-5 years after that again Jodha will be frgotten only Akbar will be remembered for another 500-1000 years in history. No Ruqaiah, Jodha, Salima, Hamida will be remembered because obivously their contribution was not so great in history.
Nur Jahan will be remembered as she ruled during Jehangir and Jahnara also ruled during Shah Jahan and Aurangzeb rule as equals and mumtaz for Taj Mahal, all others shall be forgotten in long run. So i will not fret if Jodha given more importance here this is not a real historical serial like Sword of Tipu Sultan, Bharat ek Khoj, (watch on youtube). It shall be forgotten in long term not remembered like genuine historicals like once mentioned.
But definetly i feel sad to what caricature Akbar the great has been denigtrated too in serial
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