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Originally posted by: vinitaj27
Thank u Shyamalaji for ur comment. Thanks for the pm also. I did read the said post of urs on the other forum and agreed with it totally. Here I did not comment on the actors n their performance just the characters as there was a lot of anger in the forum reg. jalal's decision to forgive ruqqaiya and I only wanted to comment on what I felt abt their decisions. I agree that the performances were very good specially of Rajat but then he usually is very good at emoting these different emotions perfectly on the screen.I am right now having some problem accessing the other forum on my iPad therefore i could not comment on ur post it will continue to hopefully be able to read ur wonderful analysis in the future too.
Originally posted by: sashashyam
Not everyone, Vinita. Not me, for sure.
I loved that episode, for the neat scripting, the telling lines and the excellent performances. It would take too long to explain why, for though all the reasons you have advanced here are valid, those are not the only ones. And then, there should be more to an episode analysis than justifications for what the characters do or don't do, there are the performances, for one thing. But here, everything is so often reduced to attacking or elevating one character or the other.
If you or anyone else is interested in my take on the matter, young Divya got me to reproduce my long post, which I had put up in the forum where I write these days, on her thread for this episode, It can be seen at
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/108316012
and is called Jodha Akbar 261: Equal Honours.
Shyamala B.Cowsik
Jalal-Ruqaiya-Jodha: Confusing emotions: That Ruqaiya pretends to Jodha that she has really lost her baby is hardly surprising; she would not know that Jodha is in on the secret.
What I could not understand was why Jodha goes there at all. What was she planning to say or do? She would feel awkward lying and pretending to commiserate with Ruqaiya. Perhaps she wanted to bridge the gap between the 24x7 caring she was providing earlier and the break that was bound to come now. Either way, it was an ill-considered move.
Luckily for Ruqaiya, Jalal arrives before she has had the chance to say anything really nasty to Jodha, or she would have copped it from him. As it is, the way he behaves is cold and off-putting enough to freeze any errant wife to the marrow.
It was absolutely clear that though he says he wants to forget her perfidy and never refer to it again, he has NOT forgiven her, not at all. In fact, if one looks back on the previous episode, one realises that Jalal never says, clearly and unambiguously, that he has forgiven her. Ruqaiya simply assumes it is so because he has not punished her.
But forgetting and forgiving are two very different things. It is more common to forgive but not forget. Here, it is the other way around. Jalal wants to forget it all, for her sake and even more so for his own peace of mind, though in fact he is very far from having reached this stage. He has NOT forgiven her at all.And in this scene, it was clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is still very hurt and angry inside, for all that he tries to get over it.
It shows when he has the palna moved away from Ruqaiya's rooms, with the superficially convincing reason that it would hurt her to look at it. That it goes back to Jodha's rooms has been interpreted by some as the shifting of his hopes, but I do not think he is quite there yet. To my mind, he is still recovering from this shock, and it would be a while before he picks up enough courage to dream again about a child calling him Abba huzoor.
It shows even more clearly in the cold aloofness with which he treats Ruqaiya, and in his strange and cutting remark about God having punished her by making it impossible for her to ever have a child.
Now this is completely illogical, for that miscarriage, and the ingestion of the ark that made it impossible for her to ever have a child again, happened to Ruqaiya for no fault of hers. But when has anger ever bothered with logic?
Worse, there follows the other remark, like a stiletto being turned in her wounded ego, that she could thus never become the Maryam-uz-Zamani.
I found that part decidedly interesting psychologically, for though Jalal does say that this last was the greatest sorrow for him, ie that his Begum-e-Khaas would not be giving him his heir, the whole tenor of the comment is almost sadistic in its intent to cause the maximum pain. For he knows that for Ruqaiya, becoming the Maryam-uz-Zamani would be more important than becoming a mother, and he obviously wants to hit her where it would hurt the most.
It was this last jab that convinced me that Ruqaiya has now finally lost Jalal. The only way for her to get back to whatever extent would have been to learn from her mistakes, and turn herself inside out to convince him that she had indeed changed at long last. But the precap would seem to indicate that Ruqaiya, whatever her guilt, regret, shame and desperation, has learnt nothing at all.
Which is a pity, for instead of an interesting triangle of husband-friend-beloved,, we are apparently going to have a high-pitched negative character in the typical Balaji mould. Ruqaiya will probably attempt something even worse in its unregenerate folly pretty soon, without or without Mahaam's advice and assistance.
Originally posted by: neeshaa16
Dear Vinita,
I read your post and liked it. Your reasoning seemed very logical.. so did I read Shyamla aunty's wonderful post(which is always the best in our forum) and I agreed with her too. But still I can't get over the fact that Rukaiyaa has not an ounce of guilt for what she has done and secondly does she deserve a pardon for such a big betrayal.JOdha is Jodha ..she believes in forgiving her enemies and here the question is of her husband's best friend and his first wife.. so she did the right thing from her POV.. But what about Jalal..? He has forgiven her for her lies . in moortikaand , about her joining hands with maham in Sujamal issue.. but this time she has stooped too low.. she has played with his emotions ..has cheated her best friend and husband.. she has hurt him where it hurts him the most.. that he wants an heir desperately .. she has misused his blind trust in her.. gone to the level of playing with everyones emotions.. from his Ammijaan, Salima Begum,everyone who cares for her.. How is this crime pardonable in any terms.. Jalal may have forgiven her on Jodhas insistence but how can he trust her now ..that trust is lost .. I don't know if Ruks has understood the depth of the wounds she has inflicted on him.. and the worst part of it all was that she did not do it to bring jalal closer to her .. but to separate Jo from Jalal because her fear that Jodha will take her place .. and her Audhaa soon .. I think even she fears Jo becoming MUZ.. .. Jealousy is fine because it comes out of love.. but what she did was for fear of loosing control over Jalal.. over her Shehenshah.. and for retaining her BEK audha..She was BEK so was expected to behave most responsibility and here she does not think of what consequences will she face if this was exposed ..to what extent everyone will ridicule her .. to what extent Jalal might punish her.. to what extent she is betraying every ones trust??How can she be pardoned.. Thats why we are angry ..but Jalal is wholly responsible for Ruks behavior for it is he who has spoiled her so much ..letting her behave rudely, insulting anyone and everyone and thats why she was so over confident that Jalal will believe her blindly and so it happened .. If a child or a friend is wrong ..you have to correct him.. if you dont tell him what he is doing or has done is wrong.. how will he improve.. Jalal should have put her in her place long back.. but now Alas..its too late to mend anything.. so he had to pay too big a price for pampering his BEK too much.. who is now beyond any repair..
But forgetting and forgiving are two very different things. It is more common to forgive but not forget. Here, it is the other way around. Jalal wants to forget it all, for her sake and even more so for his own peace of mind, though in fact he is very far from having reached this stage. He has NOT forgiven her at all.And in this scene, it was clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is still very hurt ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
As for Ruqaiya' monumental folly, it was a cruelly insensitive thing to do, though Bakshi Banu's and Mahaam's misdeeds were worse, and both could have got Jodha killed for infidelity by a madly angry Jalal,and in the first case, even Hamida Banu does not have faith in Jodha. But what I could never understand, apart from the betrayal part , is this.Originally posted by: vinitaj27
A good question.. The thing here is that if you really forgive wholeheartedly ..you will forget.. and not otherwise.. even if there is a tinge of bitterness left.. you can't forget .. thats what I feel and about Hamida you are right.. even I did not understand why she always distances herself from being an emotional anchor to Jalal .. Why she even lacks these basic gestures is whatI fail to understand either..