Take 5: Top 5 countdown for June 12th

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Somehow I was not surprised today's episode ... And I actually did not mind it.

Yesterday, no one needed a take 5, and today no one is going to be cheered up by a take 5.

So, my take today is, five reasons you shouldn't feel like banging your head or give up watching the show ...

Jalal and Jodha are still intact to a certain extent ...

(1) I actually liked four things with Jalal today:
- He understands the gravity of what Ruqaiyya did ... It is not like he is dismissing it as not a mistake (as he did with Shivani) ... That was clear from his outburst to Jodha. And he included Jodha and her seva in the list of grievances , so he does understand.
- By hiding this matter, he did save the Mughal Sultanate's izzat ... At least for now
- He understood that somewhere he was at fault for Ruqaiyya's insecurity that she was no longer important to him ... Which I think is partially true, he never directly addressed it and was now asking her to directly come to him if she had any issues. I always appreciate
- When he was rubbing (I wouldn't call it caressing) Ruqaiyya's head there was something very threatening and uncomfortable about it ... As if this was her last chance, and then disaster will strike.

I still feel he may have a painful, slow-poison type punishment in mind for Ruqaiyya so shaayad picture abhi baakhi hain ... And as Jodha said when she forgave Bakshi Bano, forgiving is the biggest punishment and guilt can be a true teacher.

Now, the only question is will Ruqs learn or commit the third strike!

(2) Jodha is being extremely consistent with character ... Why are folks suddenly upset with her?

This is Jodha- who was able to forgive Bakshi Bano and Shariffudhin, when she didn't do anything directly to hurt them. And here, Jodha feels she came in between Jalal and Ruqaiyya, why would she not ask Jalal to forgive her now?

And if Begum-e-Khaas falls in the eyes of everyone, it is an insult to the entire Mughal Sultanate.

If anything, some folks were upset that Jodha did not apply those same rules of forgiveness to Jalal (or at least as quickly) ... But her asking him to forgive Ruqaiyya is completely in line with character.

But the biggest issue is that it feels unfair that Ruqaiyya is forgiven for the following three reasons ..here is how I calmed down

(3) Why does Ruqaiyya's mistakes always forgiven by Jalal?

Up to the Ben track, Jalal never punished Ruqaiyya for her insults of and plots against Jodha ... Because he typically made the same mistakes as her or was part of the plot. He just was better at apologizing and learning from them. But, that being said, how could he punish Ruqaiyya for what he did as well?

After the Ben track, the first crime Ruqaiyya did against Jodha was the Murthi Khaand. That to Jalal was her first strike ... He let go citing that it was her first mistake.

Then, there was Ruqs trusting Maham Anga and helping her execute the Sujamal plan. Again, Ruqs fault was trusting Maham Anga that Jodha was wrong. But Jalal made the same mistake. How can Jalal punish her?

Now, this is the second major strike ... Here Jalal was given a kasam by Jodha to forgive her.

But for sure, either the third strike won't happen, or nothing will stop Jalal in the third strike ... How I hope it is the former.

(4) Why does only Jodha get the public insults?

Yes, Jodha has been publicly insulted but the circumstances were different and the issue was already in the DEK, .e.g., Sujamal fiasco.

And, even when it came to Jodha, Jalal did not insult her publicly during the fake pregnancy track which was a similarly sensitive topic. He thought she had committed infidelity and he did not breathe a word to anyone about it. Once Maham Anga leaked it to the public, he took the fault on himself and even faced the public on it.

(5) Won't Maham Anga bring this up as double standards and insult Jalal in DEK for this?

First, I am not entirely convinced on how Maham Anga will unravel and prove Ruqaiyya's fake pregnancy in the DEK ... I don't trust the Zee operators as they could have changed the track.

But, even if Maham Anga does, how can she cite this as the only example of unfair standards? As Ruqaiyya was not the first person Jalal has forgiven for insulting the Mughal Sultanate. It would also be unfair to how he forgave Bakshi Bano, Sharifudhin, Shivani, and even Adham Khan.

As the biggest victim is Jalal, he has the right to choose the punishment.

Maham Anga's crime with the Sujamal crime I still think was worse on a few dimensions:
- She failed in her administrative / official role of wazir-e-aliya by letting Sujamal in and causing the death of many Mughal soldiers
- She led to the public insult of a begum- Jodha
- Her intent was not only to separate Jodha and Jalal but destroy Jodha's reputation

And of course we know her track record is much worse than that of Ruqaiyya!

Look, writing this made me feel better ... But it likely didn't make anyone feel better. In which case there are four sources of hope for the future:
- Jalal may have another type of punishment in store for her
- Ruqaiyya may actually learn her lesson and be reformed and dignified moving forward ... Which is likely more in line with history
- Ruqaiyya may still be publicly insulted by MA's unraveling in DEK according to the Zee Operator
- Ruqaiyya will make a third strike and then she will be officially out (to use baseball lingo)

In any case, feel free to use this thread to vent your thoughts on the episode. Today is that kind of day. I wonder what Friday the 13th has in store for us.

Edited by divyavm - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divya, you managed to do a fiver today too. 😊

I can just comment that I love your positivity. 👏

I have written a letter to our Jalal. See if you can add your thoughts there. Would love your thoughts there too.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice post Divya,bu even with vachan cannot accept Jalals behaviour
Cant he question each one of her hideous acts during this fake preg drama
Cant he show how much of his emotions are hurt due to this??

Cannot understand how one cannot question why she did what she did even if jodha pointed out Rukaiyas point of view

Me confused😕

Seems so unrealistic like the track logic
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi All i can say is that i loved this line from your take five..

Ive done all i can to cheer myself but its possibly not going to help you lot 😆

I know i promised a long analysis today...but sach mein i havent decided if i have to laugh at or frown upon the epi yet 😕 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice take Divya. I was not actually disappointed today because I was expecting what we saw today. As u said Ruks either is going to do something or MA is going to expose her.

Somehow I feel Jalal will not forgive Ruks. I guess inside the hatred is slowly building up..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

Divi All i can say is that i loved this line from your take five..

Ive done all i can to cheer myself but its possibly not going to help you lot 😆

I know i promised a long analysis today...but sach mein i havent decided if i have to laugh at or frown upon the epi yet 😕 😆



Lash,

😲

That's the only possible reaction for Jalal's behavior today..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I was waiting for ur take...i need cheering up badly:(
Let me read and comment!

Unres
Thanx for managing to atleast cheer me up with ur positive take, kudos to u girl 👏

I was dissapointed becoz Ruqu again got out scotch free of the whole thing, but i did notice that she herself said to Jallu that she thot he will kill her and yet he forgave her...i think this way there is a hope that she will change her attitude becoz if he had punished her or humiliated her she wud have surely gotten more miffed with Jodha!
I was so surprised at how Jallu was behaving after everyone left the room and saying lets play shatranj...i know he was trying to assure her that he is still her friend and has forgiven her for such a big crime...i was surprised with the fact that he managed to behave the way h did and yet he threatened her too that she shud not repeat her mistake in future!

I noticed and was happy about the fact that he counted Jo's seva in the list too!!
All this will bring Jallu more closer to Jo and she will be always his that begum whom he trusts blindly and expects right advice from!!
Going forward i just hope Ruqu changes for good and JaJo stay close always!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sam_0506

Divya, you managed to do a fiver today too. 😊

I can just comment that I love your positivity. 👏

I have written a letter to our Jalal. See if you can add your thoughts there. Would love your thoughts there too.



Thanks - I am sure that my positive really didn't change your mind 😆

I will paste this response on your thread- as your question is compared to Maham Anga vs. Ruqaiyya and why the punishment only for Maham Anga?

Three ways to answer the question:

(1) Depending on how you look at it ... Maham Anga could look worse and as I say in my take 5 in looked worse for the following three reasons:
- She failed in her administrative / official role of wazir-e-aliya by letting Sujamal in and causing the death of many Mughal soldiers
- She led to the public insult of a begum- Jodha
- Her intent was not only to separate Jodha and Jalal but destroy Jodha's reputation

(2) Why compare MA only to his forgiving Ruqaiyya? What about Shariffudin, Bakshi Bano, Adham Khan, Shivani and others ... Why are we asking this question only now?

(3) More poetic justice from the CVs ... As CVs and we know how bad Maham Anga given her long track record of murders and MCa ... But this would not apply from Jalal's POV. Many still view Ruqs as grey and understand her situation. Less so for Maham Anga.





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Posted: 11 years ago
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Cool. Good analysis Divya. Thanks for penning it down for us all.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi, hats off!!! you have logic in every sentence you wrote down! and yes, I agree with you.👏

But Divi, today as a viewer I feel cheated. We viewers have been taking this entire crap only to witness some heavy duty punishment to Ruqu that too by Jalal! Once again, she got scot free! No, this is not a mistake that she committed and he forgave. She committed a crime this time. And, she must not be forgiven!! I am in extreme bad mood!!! I just cant believe Jodha did it. You know I thought, after learning the truth, she will be the first one to confront Ruqu for cheating Jalal, playing with his emotions and all. But here all we got she convincing Jalal to forgive Ruqu just because she understands her state!!! No, I cannot buy it. I just cannot. Agar, yehi anjaam hone wala tha, phir kyu humein CVs ne ummeed di? Why the hell we expected something big??

Ruqu is not a person with conscience, trust me!! She will never learn from this, instead she will be more confident than before and yes, will be ready to commit another vicious crime. Note, Ruqu doesnt know the reason behind Jalal forgiving her. So, she will continue hating Jodha. This hatred will lead her committing the third and last crime! Probably this time she will hurt Jodha so much so that Jalal will cut off his ties entirely. JJ must have forgiven her, but Karma is there. Uparwala bhi dekhraha hai. And no criminal is forgiven so easily. Karma will haunt her, and will make sure she gets her due! I am sure if not Maham, Ruqu's last attempt to thrash Jodha will make her drown.

precap: Saapne Suhaane Pagalpaan Ke!
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