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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: skanda12

Maddy that was abrilliant post and your heart is visible in it again. You have a very fair heart and insist on "justice". There has to be someone like you always to show all of us where the justice lies in any situation! I have marked some lines in blue, but actually those are not the only parts of your post that have affected me. I feel every line you have written very deeply. You have done a splendid job of asking for justice for Jodha in all this. (If you had been her lawyer you'd have won the case hands down!)
Its so true that we are all closely watching the Ruq angle and the Jalal angle in all this, but thank God for your post Maddy that forces us all to look at Jodha's angle in all this. Yes Jalal needs to punish Ruq and save his own name from being ridiculed, but the justice he serves on Ruq has to be measured against the justice he served on Jodha many a time. Just because he was earlier not in love with Jodha and now is, doesn't mean that all that was served on Jodha is to be forgotten.
What he does to Ruq now will also show how much he truly loves Jodha. So jalal is on test even in that respect!
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I always love to read Maddys post in anticipation to Mansi's post.. Both of you write so well and todays posts are again super posts... !!wonderful.. I agree with you Maddy, I not only want public humiliation of Ruks but also want to see her punished by Jalal.
If Jodha can be kept in nazar qiad.. for 10 days during Ruks MC track..just on basis of suspicion .. then when Ruks is proven guilty why should she not be punished.?? Ruks has shamed the Mugal Sultanat, betrayed every ones trust.. and as Maddy you correctly say that if MA can be publicly punished in DEK..so should be Ruks.. why spare her?? she has back stabbed him in worst possible way..

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Posted: 11 years ago
#62


mansi awesome analysis of a well executed,scripted and performed episode...RT stole the show and a hats off to the writers for retaining the class of the royals atleast in this case without an OTT melodrama in between the street ..yes i know many of us want her public humiliation but i was not disappointed the way truth came out only because it was Jalal from start to end...he took the initiative ,he investigated and he found out the truth..thank God for that...i am tired of every other person telling him what is happening while he is being taken for a jolly ride

what surprised me was he actually thought over what the hakima said and did the ark test...that too on ruqaiyya ..the older jalal would have taken out the sword and swiped of the hakima's head for even suggesting this...or else he would have directly confronted ruqaiyya and believed whatever nonsense she would have blabbered...this shows he did have that lingering doubt

yes you could see his guilt when he was giving her that ark ...and then the wide range of emotions on his face..RT was brilliant...fear,anticipation ,relief,shock then the composed heartbreak ...

the dialogues he uttered to her of spending more time with her was out of guilt that he could even think like this about her also the relief that it was indeed a miracle..and then the next moment his whole world came crashing down

his exit and the pace with which he summoned the hakima got the truth out of her before confronting ruqaiyya...this was the Emperor at work ..even if he was shivering with rage ,the patience with which he reasoned and gave the hakima the chance to explain

the last scene where he confronts ruqaiyya...gosshh anyone would be trembling seeing his face...he was stone silent till she mouthed her standard apology which was so shallow and jalal blew his fuse...today we shall see what continues

waiting for the precap where he shares with jodha what happens...today everyone in the harem will know..his mother ,entire family...ruqaiyya did not hurt jodha..she hurt and shamed her friend ,the family that sheltered her ,her own people...after knowing what BB did to him ,what MA did to him...how much grey matter you require to know that you are digging a grave...

a part of this lies with jalal also...because he covered all her faults and crimes too..forgave her and forgot it time and again..it just build up her arrogance and over confidence more that this time too she will get away...he never drew a line with ruqaiyya giving her free rein..and she took it as her right to interfere between him and jodha...and that is what led to this

if jalal had earlier drawn that line and told her sternly and firmly to stay out ruqaiyya would never dare to cross him..she is mighty scared of his temper...he did not have to love jodha but he should have been clear about his relationship and the line drawn ..actually with all his wives...

and as for ruqaiyya if only she could have taken in his positives and evolved like him ...she would have not lost her place ...

whatever he does today and tomorrow ,she has lost her place in his life and eyes ...and that dent shall remain and that wil lbe her punishment...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Isey kehte hain apne pair pe kulhari marna😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi beautiful
There are episodes like thus always brings certain zing in your writing
asusal good analysis became spl with that zing factor

the green part was fablous and two sayings were perfect example to set things


faith : let your fair being bigger than your fear

Fear : fight ypur fear u will be in battle forever face your fear u will be free

ruq inteligent mind has two things fear and position
coz she never had a heart to take things forward for ruq she rulled jalal brain coz he claim he never had a heart so ruq never saw a good heart in thick brain but Jodha saw he had his teda ways to show his heart that only jodha saw that was ruq first hint but in hangover of power she refuse ti blv what she saw
for her
All organs were blocked she couldn't hear jalal heart beats for jodha she couldn't saw his tears for jodha
she only saw her power

takakt ke nashe main aadmi andha hojata hai filmy but so damm true

for her now nthing is left coz jala will only gonna nna hate her or I would say for him she will now gonna be non existing

yesterday episode was good coz it shows how a king behaves in such situations he is not typical hindi serail hero who gonna shout he is king 16 century whose every action and reaction yesterday was so pleasing
I felt no ott dialogues no tyical bg score it went smoothly
how storm came but so silently that its pain only felt by jalal
and today it will be akdha

public insult for her would be no imp to her in any area of Kingdom no more pampering no more nakhras
only shout in front ofvall is not public insult
sometimes such small gestures are big mark on face
its like binavawaaz ka thapad
or
a scar on face after a wound jiske nishaan will never fade

his anger will be at its peak and jodha will calm him
Ruq and jalal were always like similar how fire is anf jodha was like water

fire and fire will never go long
fire always needs water
they are meant to be on same side they might be not so aimilar but adapt eachother well

will write more abhi I am from mobile

btw I write realy bad today I don't know what I have written so sorry
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: MaddyO



If Ruk truth is not revealed then Jalal looks like a fool. Everybody in the haram knows what all Jalal and Jodha did for Ruk and her baby. Jodha literally turned into almost a bandi of Ruk pressing her feet and head and everything else!

Ruk needs to face the music and PAY atleast this time.

Jalal will announce this in public, he will no more shield her. he will announce this in public, If he can punish his sister in public and disown her, he can as well do that with his wife. He will for sure will tell the DEK what she did and if he needs some aid to realize how she could fool the sr. Hakima, the Mahma will do the honor of helping him in providing complete details on how she swapped herself with a bhandi. Since Ruqu has no other family to go to, he may allow her to stay in her own room but with a strict instruction of never to cross his way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: skanda12



Jalal really stands alone now, poor man. he really has no one left but Jodha. His mother and Salima are there but they cannot be his anchors in the same way Jodha can. When hamida hears of Riuq's lie she is going to have apoplexy and need medical treatment herself and Salima will not be so shaken but then Jalal does not share the same closeness with her as with Jodha nowadays.


U r right! I feel so sad for him 😭 but m glad Jo is there for him!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: minnie2308

Mansi, i'd been silently reading Maddy's takes for the past 2 days and agreeing with all.

If Jalal does not publicly condemn Ruks act I would liken this pardoning act to police not presenting the caught thief before court because it would then mean they look like fools for not beng able to maintain law and order. Off course when someone does a crime, its because someone else was not vigilant enough. when someone hoodwinks...someone else was hoodwinked
Oh and Mansi- Amazing post as usual. When I am reading your thread, I get so caught up in the amazing intelligent responses of different folks that I forget to praise your post and get into the act of replying. The reason why you attract such insightful comments is because you write so well yourself.

Minnie, everybody on this thread writes such utter sense that its very difficult to debate their points. From everybody's viewpoint they are all so right, so perceptive, so insightful and so alert on all the details. I feel as if I have to be on my toes when I write my post because the people who write after me on this thread are so very very precise in their logic. And that includes you too.
Maddy is a special favourite of mine because she is a fearless crusader for justice. She does not tolerate injustice and she is like the tarazu of this thread. Her point is irrefutable - what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If it applies to Ruq it has to apply to Jodha also, and vice versa. We need someone like that to remind us what true balance is! hats off to her!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Hi Mansi..! 🤗
Its pleasure to read ur brilliant take on each frame..!👍🏼
Coming to yesterday episode..! Its a dhamaka treat for all JA fans..Most awaited moment of Rukaiya's exposure takes place without any dragging any more..😃
It was a indeed a surprise from writers in each frame..I didn't expect this melodramatic way of exposing ..Just loved it , after all those days this has to be happen merely..😊
As u said , its a drastic storm after first half of the episode..It was like everything happened in a secs..Yes finally I could see Jalal as an ruling emperor who can create and demolish things hardly..
I loved how writers make a flow in tearing mask of a peculiar character which was also an major supporting role..😊
First half of the episode..Jodha combing her hair b/w shehnaaz roaming around them in which she can gain some news regarding her mom...Surprising thing ..! Did Ruku knows that she would caught red-handed by Jalal..No where Jodha hesitated to do all her duties for her but does she thought how this issue will makes a serious note on her..? Every moment she needs to seperate JJ , either she doesn't think about upcoming darkness which is gonna to surround a wall called lonely life without Jalal..A man who never fail to pamper her , never disappoint her , never betrayed her , never blamed for her weakness in getting child..but she thrashed all those things in a secs..How could she..? Is she really loved or cared or either she had belief in their own relationship status..? Does she took a step to heal his unknown pain which was roaming all time...? She never ever understand Jalal's pure heart which is aching for pure love...And for Jalal , he is extremely weak inside , wounded inside , but still she wants to make her happy and she respects her a wife but what she did instead..? She planned to hit this emotional chord which gonna to stick at him for lifetime...And for Jalal , yesterday we could get him a emperor state who was so manipulative in digging things finally..Why can't this Jalal could find out her already ,,Is unconditional trust towards her ..? They are thick friends from childhood , they know each other well..But why can't he trace out her intentions with ease..? yes..if we want to dissect each and every thing we could find flaw in every mode..😆
So I would take this in a positive way...well , all these learning experience right now which he is undergoing to become a growing Akbar..!! Its a tough phase , to choose over right , wrong , good and bad souls around him...yes..he is a plucky soldier with a great physic but he was never aware of wrong souls around him...Its just a beginning from his side , to pacify this horrible phase too and its eye-opener for him to witness these sort of people are living in my environment...! Slowly , he will become a reflecting mirror , which help to overcome this big barrior too..Above all , Jodha's strength , love , trust , big backbone in helping him to overcome all issues..😊
I loved yesterday's episode..Specially last part..! awesome job by RT in terms of giving Jalal in various shades of emotions depicted yesterday..He just intrudes into a skin of character which makes alive..That's brilliant..! ⭐️

What a wonderfully magnanimous view you have taken that all this is a learning curve for Jalal. We sometimes forget that he is a very young man too, and he does not have all the answers as to why he blindly trusts his own people and then gets betrayed. But he will learn from every episode, because as you say he is on the way not just to growth but to greatness!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi I absolutely wish they do not show Jodha pregnant tomorrow. It will be the worst timing cos then it will look like console Jalal out of bad mood thing!

I hope since they showed SR episode just about 2-1/2 weeks back (and after that got them back to being friends! 😉) they show a long gap before Jodha is shown pregnant.

It will just change Jalal's mood and he will forget Ruk and MA acts in his good mood.

I hope the pregnancy bit if they are going to show should come after Adham end.

I really hope they do not show Jodha pregnant now.

About the promo where Jalal is putting on kangan on Jodha's hands just to tell her that she is the one he wants his child from.

Maddy I also wrote the same thing in reply to someone on this thread. If they show Jo immediately pregnant then everyone including the praja will suspect Jodha also of fraud since the credibility of the Shahenshah's family is at a low now. And as you say that should not be the bounce-back force for Jalal!
people should have time to forget this faking episode so that they do not measure Jodha by the same yardstick used to measure Ruq! Unfortunately one person's dirt sticks on everybody in the family!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: sun29



mansi awesome analysis of a well executed,scripted and performed episode...RT stole the show and a hats off to the writers for retaining the class of the royals atleast in this case without an OTT melodrama in between the street ..yes i know many of us want her public humiliation but i was not disappointed the way truth came out only because it was Jalal from start to end...he took the initiative ,he investigated and he found out the truth..thank God for that...i am tired of every other person telling him what is happening while he is being taken for a jolly ride

what surprised me was he actually thought over what the hakima said and did the ark test...that too on ruqaiyya ..the older jalal would have taken out the sword and swiped of the hakima's head for even suggesting this...or else he would have directly confronted ruqaiyya and believed whatever nonsense she would have blabbered...this shows he did have that lingering doubt

yes you could see his guilt when he was giving her that ark ...and then the wide range of emotions on his face..RT was brilliant...fear,anticipation ,relief,shock then the composed heartbreak ...

the dialogues he uttered to her of spending more time with her was out of guilt that he could even think like this about her also the relief that it was indeed a miracle..and then the next moment his whole world came crashing down

his exit and the pace with which he summoned the hakima got the truth out of her before confronting ruqaiyya...this was the Emperor at work ..even if he was shivering with rage ,the patience with which he reasoned and gave the hakima the chance to explain

the last scene where he confronts ruqaiyya...gosshh anyone would be trembling seeing his face...he was stone silent till she mouthed her standard apology which was so shallow and jalal blew his fuse...today we shall see what continues

waiting for the precap where he shares with jodha what happens...today everyone in the harem will know..his mother ,entire family...ruqaiyya did not hurt jodha..she hurt and shamed her friend ,the family that sheltered her ,her own people...after knowing what BB did to him ,what MA did to him...how much grey matter you require to know that you are digging a grave...

a part of this lies with jalal also...because he covered all her faults and crimes too..forgave her and forgot it time and again..it just build up her arrogance and over confidence more that this time too she will get away...he never drew a line with ruqaiyya giving her free rein..and she took it as her right to interfere between him and jodha...and that is what led to this

if jalal had earlier drawn that line and told her sternly and firmly to stay out ruqaiyya would never dare to cross him..she is mighty scared of his temper...he did not have to love jodha but he should have been clear about his relationship and the line drawn ..actually with all his wives...

and as for ruqaiyya if only she could have taken in his positives and evolved like him ...she would have not lost her place ...

whatever he does today and tomorrow ,she has lost her place in his life and eyes ...and that dent shall remain and that wil lbe her punishment...

What a terrific post Sunny!👏👏👏 I am terrified for Ruq today. Jalal looks to me like a hurricane about to wreak havoc. Will it just blow off all the trees and lamp posts or is it going to wipe out the entire city. That's the kind of dread that Ruq faces.
What happened to the girl who once said "Let Jalal have who he pleases but my relationship with him is rock steady!" Has that girl gone with the wind.? In reaching for more than she had she has lost everything she had ... what a goose!

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