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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RamziMeriJaan

Great post ...real reel love can never be won by lie ...lesson learned miss Rqu ...

I have been waiting on this forever n it finally happen ...Ekta is almost on my good book

Yes isn't it true that a lie can only go so far. Sooner or later truth triumphs.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeshaa16

Dear Mansi,

What an awesome post on Ruks FP exposure.. Finally we got a break from t his ridiculous track.. Ruks downfall though seemed inevitable.. but the way it ended.. we never expected it to be this way!! I have mixed feelings about the episode.. Yes it was brought out in a good way.. but was all hushed up ..as if the CVS were given idea that .. audience is not liking this track and finish it off ASAP.. . Maham exposing Ruk would have been a treat to watch...the way they had dragged the track... and the end seemed too lame for me!! Though the sadist in me wanted much more humiliation and insults for Ruks ..by Jalal and all their clan.. I realised that this will not happen.. publicly as it will put the Emperor only to shame.. He cannot recognise the true face of his own people... forget the enemies.. How easily he gets fooled by them How they misuse his trust in them! for their own advantage..


Yes it now that Jalal's Amerification will fully begin as now he will and never can trust anyone of his clan now barring a few like Atgah khan.. but he knows one thing for sure that Rajvanshis will never ever back-stab him.. Thats why he respected Jo even when she hated him.,.. she used to tell him that on his face.. but at the same time she was always loyal to him.. .But Jalal ..I think had to pay for his mistakes... that he did in the past.

I loved your analysis about Ruks downfall especially the green part very much Mansi.. how beautifully you have described it.. Iloved William Blake's reference too.. It was not your mistake but mine that I trusted you ... so much summarizes Jalal's condition after being betrayed by his closest friend.. (Brutus, you too?)

OMG .. I cant even go to the depth of Jalal's misery his hurt , his loss..as if a whole world has come crashing down on him.. and yes only Jodha can lift his spirits and give him the required comfort and these shoulders need be strong now as he is going to need them even more in near future with Atgah's death looming in near future and more vamps lurching around every nook and corner..

You're right, maybe public displeasure made the Creatives shut down the track, but then we have been calling from the very first week and saying this whole track is pathetic and yet it took them 3-4 weeks to stop the track?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Mansi very nice analysis abt most awaited episode 😳 thank god ruks truth is out so no more bacha jaap from JJ , no 24/7 seva from jodha, no disgusting trio scenes of JJR... I'm disappointed with yday episode bcz I expected more blasting from jalal n it looked thanda for me... Waiting for today's episode... But stil does Jallu knows that she has been dng all these to seperate them in spending time with each other?? Or simply he is thinking that ruks did this to get his attention n time from him?

But mansi I really want public insult of rukayya enuf of her private insults in btw four walls... U r right now she is colorless character n she deserves it... Just lik Maham bakshi even rukayya shud b punished in DEK... Til now she mocked other begums n slapped bandhis n now it's pay back time for them to mock at her for dng this foolish thing... With all these dnt know how she controls harem now as evryone wil give right slap answers right on her face... From first I hv no sympathy for this character n with this track my hatred for her grew even more that even Maham looked lik angel for me compared to BEK..,

Yday episode it was all abt jalal n rajat performed it fab with all emotions... As per news nation jalal wil b heartbroken beyond repair n develops immense hatred for rukayya... Today or tomorrow he wil b shattered completely as his dream of becoming father once again vanished... But Jo is there to console him n now they become much more closer than before...I hope HB slaps rukayya n Salima also scolds her... I really hope Jo not b mahan n instead she shud scold rukayya for breaking Jallu heart...

Yesterday it was too soon to expect a blasting from Jalal. He was stunned beyond belief not just because the baby was lost but because Ruq was exposed beyond redemption!
He needed time to take stock and he needs more time to also react in exactly the right amount. See in this case the more open he is about the matter, he exposes himself also to ridicule as the "ullooo" husband who got taken for a ride by his wife. Whatever he does he has to do with precision. That's why I thought it was a good idea for him to confer with Jodha and for them to jointly tackle this with just the right public perceptions being maintained. The sad part if that Ruq has put him in such bad light!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

A very good episode and you beautiful described the nuances of Jalal's emotions as he realized the fraud that had been perpetrated on him. The sequence of steps by which he got to that stage and the myriad emotions he displayed is well worth another watch. Rajat's face is very expressive, the switch from absolute joy to total despair in the vomit scene was a masterclass in acting.

It was such a momentous episode, that had this been any other channel(ZEE or COLORS), they would have promoted the hell out of this episode, a promo every 15 minutes. But I have given up hope of any support from ZEE on this front.

Well that is their problem, coming back to the episode, Rajat acted like a king today.Like a true monarch, he never lost control and he did not humiliate his wife in public. Tomorrow there will be heartbreak. I have a feeling though that by Friday he will get some of his spirit back, maybe Jodha' pregnancy revealed in tomorrow's episode.

I believe that the CV's had planned this Ruq track for a little while longer but the feedback they got was so negative that they had to end it sooner than planned. Lavina is a very good actress, I think the CV's will either give her a clean break from the serial or plan something worthwhile for her in the proceedings. They won't waste her like Man Singh or Todarmal.

Donjas, that is a very insightful post! As for Ruq's future I suspect that "being a nothing and a nobody" is her biggest punishment. What she has done to Jaall is unforgiveable, she has made a laughing stock out of him ... but to herself she has completely eroded her credibility as well as her position as a queen. Which praja wants a queen who fakes pregnancy to her own husband?
What a pathetic thing it is. Imagine the same being done by a modern day politician ... the paparazzi would have been all over it as the day's biggest scandal!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kashvi786

Nic take mansi we yesterday we're thinking how her bhandaphod in just one episode but it happened and u know wat is coming into my mind now that may be when jalu telling truth to jodha she...shayad behosh ho jaye and hakima came and says that she is pregnant and I think that Tim is not far wen jalu will giv highest position to jodha

I don't think Jodha will fall pregnant so soon. We don't want the praja and everybody to think she is also faking it. Let some time elapse so that public memory forgets this faking issue and then when Jodha becomes pregnant people will not be trying to measure her integrity using the same yardstick they used for Ruq!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: gheet

Hi Mansi thank you for the wonderful analysis - I agree the exposure was quick and unexpected.

It was all an Emperor in work, efficient and slick. I am reserving my comments on the exposure, like what you said, the scene is not completed. Let watch it first...

I also feel Ruqaiyya doesn't actually realize the enormity of her actions just yet - she was being her usual self "Sorry Jalal, it was a blunder...forgive me now, I was not trying to hurt you"

Lets see how Jalal handles this today 😊


Yes exactly, see how the standard excuses just tripped off Ruq's tongue. She has done this same thing for years together so its all coming out by heart. How many times has she done something miserable and then said the self-same words to get Jalal to exonerate her?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, great take. Will post my views little later as I still in trance as to what to write and what not?

But at the moment all I can say is that, however bitter is the truth, it should be shared at least with the family if not with public. had Hamida not suppressed the truth of Ruqaiyya's truth about her loss of ability to become a mother again, at least with few important people in the family like Salima, Jiji Anga, Gulbadhan Begum and most important is with Jalal and Ruqu, Ruqu would not have dared to take this step to fool everyone. Hamida as a good natured lady didn't want to hurt her children (Jalal & Ruqu) with the bitter truth that she can never become a mother and Jalal can't have his waris from Ruqu, kept the news as a secret within herself but that has boomeranged on her and her family only. Had Jalal knew the truth, she would never have pulled this Fake pregnancy track.

Very true Jaya. Hamida could have shared her knowledge that the elderly hakim had told her Ruq could never have babies. They could all have thoroughly tested Ruq well before all this came to pass, and Jalal would have been spared a lot of shame and agony!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ssdv

Thanx for the lovely write up.

Ruk's exposure was very sudden, after watching yesterdays precap I thaught may be it's all Ruk's planning to get out of it as she was very nervous when Jalal was shown talking to his child. What I feel is her exposure was very hastily done, but hopefully we will get to see some fireworks today which were absent yesterday.

Sonali

It was fast but it was not an unnatural thing that the raaz unravelled so fast. It goes to the credit of Jalal that once he saw something amiss, he didn't stop halfway, he went the whole hog at it till the matter was fully exposed! That itself shows that he has started mistrusting Ruq because he could have thought she too was fooled by a misdiagnosis, but instead he suspected her of collusion in this lie, which was proved right. So that shows that even before he exposed her fully, she was already exposed at some level inside his mind. he thought her capable of such a thing, otherwise how would he think to investigate further into it all?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi!
Wonderful analysis as usual. I always wait for ur post n specially loved the lines on trust. I feel the way they have ended the track is not that great. There was no drama, no major reason for jalal to suddenly suspect his khas begum just on the words of a hakima. But anyway I think this ti e jodha might not forgive ruqqaiya so easily coz remember she has till now only forgiven pp wh have hurt her not her husband but this time jalal is the one who is hurt. I think she will realise that ruqqaiya has hurt his self respect, his feelings n his dignity along with his public image coz even if the common public is unaware still pp like todarmal, maansingh n atgah r aware of ruqaiya's pregnancy n for him to be fooled in this manner in front of all these bring his intelligence into question. I just hope he realises that ruqqaiya did this to humiliate jodha also and not just to get close to him and punish her accordingly but from the pics we saw of ruqqaiya n jodha rehearsing a few days back for their shot it didn't seem like ruqqaiya was feeling defeated or down, she still looked as arrogant as ever. Maybe she still feels that sooner or later jalal will forgive her, after all she is his childhood friend n BEK. The biggest punishment for her would be to publicly take away her ahuda which she loves more than anything.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

excellant post , Mansi...

as i said tonight will be a major dhamaka, when Jalal will actually tear her to pieces... and may be if he tells the truth to HB, then Ruku is surely to get a tight slap... i m worried abt Jo... hope she doesn't take all blame on herself of distancing Jalal from Ruku and thus making Ruku take this step...

it's high time Jalal makes Jo come out of her 'Mahaan Avtaar'...

just one thing, abt that kitchen , Jo and Shenu scene... the only reason for that is, the food was made for prisoners... and Shenu heard it when the baandi told it to Jo... and she wants to search in prison for CB... so i think she will follow the servants to prison with food...


anyway, have to go for a meeting... ll. be back in the eve... so let's party tonight...

You're right Diksha, even I am slightly worried that Jo shouldn't immediately become self-effacing. She has to be bold and offer her strong shoulder to Jalal in this situation. he needs more than counsel, he needs emotional support and a good way to handle this by punishing Ruq without punishing himself or Jo in the process through public ridicule or personal guilt!
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